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Sword plugin

Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005, 9:24pm

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XDanTheManX

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Hey, I was wondering if someone could make me a sword plugin. There already is a sword plugin but the whole sword is silver and i was looking for one that looked more real.

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Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005, 9:33pm

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Serpent

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I am just curious, in what instance would you use it in, because you couldn't possibly put a 2d sword in someones hand for every frame and make it look good. I am just curious if that is indeed your purpose.
Posted: Thu, 10th Feb 2005, 12:09am

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XDanTheManX

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I was only going to use it when someone stabbed someone else.
Posted: Thu, 10th Feb 2005, 1:05am

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For that to look remotely good you either use a dummy, or use your sword and masking. For example, on the top layer you have the clip of the guy thrusting forwar, below that, without movie the camera AT ALL, you have a guy pretending to be stabbed, create a point mask around the guy but use it on the top clip instead. You only need to draw the mask where the sword hits, not the WHOLE body. If you don't have a compositing app, either save up and get Chromy, or use a dummy by stuffing your actors clothes with hay, add some blood squibs etc. This would look awesme, you need to be dedicated to your film and use one of these techniques. Good luck!
Posted: Fri, 11th Feb 2005, 12:08am

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XDanTheManX

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Thanks, but i still need someone to make the sword
Posted: Fri, 11th Feb 2005, 3:17am

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JoelM

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If you don't already have a sword, you can get one really cheap on some whole sale sites.
http://www.jdwholesale.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=271

If you still want a sword as a plugin, I have quite a few of them I made, but never submitted them. What type of sword are you looking for?
Posted: Fri, 11th Feb 2005, 8:11pm

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XDanTheManX

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I was just looking for a long sword plugin, But i would like to see what other kind of sword plugins you have.
Posted: Fri, 11th Feb 2005, 9:00pm

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Rawree

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You need to understand that a sword plugin will look awful. That's all there really is to say about it. Really have you rethought this at all?
Posted: Fri, 11th Feb 2005, 10:27pm

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Why not just get a cardboard tube and a belt cut the cardboard tube into two and snip the end and sellotape it up to make it into a sword tip. Spray both pieces silver and stick both ends to the belt then at the point at which the bloke gets stabbed just do a quick close up of the 'victim's' face/expression and then shoot again from the side or watever and it looks like hes been stabbed.
TVM
ps also you could cut two holes in a tshirt and poke the sword through and you even do a flyaround.
Posted: Sat, 12th Feb 2005, 12:41am

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Serpent

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People who post plugin suggestions like this and don't even glance at advice such as mine truely don't show much passion for their film. It really wont look good digital unless you are a proffesional using 3d software, or you use a hybrid of real and digital (compositing.)
Posted: Sat, 12th Feb 2005, 4:39am

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Serpent wrote:

People who post plugin suggestions like this and don't even glance at advice such as mine truely don't show much passion for their film. It really wont look good digital unless you are a proffesional using 3d software, or you use a hybrid of real and digital (compositing.)
Seriously. He's just like: "Well....I didn't read that at all, but thanks. I still need the plugin."
Posted: Sat, 12th Feb 2005, 5:15am

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Evman

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Seriously. He's just like: "Well....I didn't read that at all, but thanks. I still need the plugin."
Thats pretty much what I said a few days ago, but I guess it got deleted.
Posted: Sun, 13th Feb 2005, 6:50pm

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XDanTheManX

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Serpent, you suggested using a sword plugin and masking so thats what i was going to do
Posted: Sun, 13th Feb 2005, 7:19pm

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Evman

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no... he suggested using a REAL sword and masking.
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2005, 1:37am

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XDanTheManX

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Oh, i thought you meant a sword plugin. Would i need the chromanator if i wanted to mask a real sword?
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2005, 2:35am

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XDanTheManX wrote:

Oh, i thought you meant a sword plugin. Would i need the chromanator if i wanted to mask a real sword?
yes, or some other various compositing app.
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2005, 5:22am

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Serpent

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If you really want to pull this off and have total editing freedom, make a freacking dummy. And I NEVER suggested masking a sword plugin. The only thing a 2d program should be used for is the stuff it was made for: sparks, explosions, sabers, muzzleflashes, glows, among more. bviously better and cooler effects will be in Alam DV 3, and my favorite thing about 3 is the effects will be self made rather then animating premade ones, I can't wait. (I'm ranting again.) But seriously consider a dummy, it doens't take that much time, and if all else fails get yourself and AE demo and digitally mask REAL (not digital) sword. Do it via this: Film on shot of a dude thrusting forward, and back a few times. Then a guy lurching forward a few times (try and time it the same and don't change the lighting, keep the camera in the SAME postion. Then put the victim on the top layer, the stabber on the bottom, mask around the top layered dude in the are where he is stabbed in the necessary frame. I suggest you use an onset squib, but to make it all easier and better, just use a dummy.
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2005, 10:55pm

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XDanTheManX

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Ok, I'll try using a dummy.

Thanks for the help.