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Game Over II

Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 12:27pm

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This is my first movie submission, and although certainly not my best work, I thought I'd upload it. Ive been doing films in various genres for about five years, and my friend and I did this as a bit of fun.

PLOT: Brutal secret agent Jim Ferman works for the British Bureau of Firm Confederates. His is given a mission by his higher powers to break into the headquarters of the more liberal enemy, the Members' Parliament of Absolute Allies. His mission is to steal their guidelines for world domination and bring them back to BBFC headquarters for "vetting", in an attempt to stop the Member's Parliament from taking over the world.

This is actually a satire based in the world of the action movie genre, and it's about the British censors' manner of working and cutting action movies. Its violent and sadistic on purpose, poking fun at the fact they cut obviously-OTT and unrealistic screen violence. Its got more than a bit of subtext: Ferman is presented as being brutal in his methods, as a metaphor for the Board's old manners of working and the MPAA enemies are all shown as happy-go-lucky people. It can be watched as a straightforward action movie, but we intended it to be much more than that. Its laced with our sense of very black, wry humour and is meant to be funny if you understand what our goal was. If you don't "get it", fear not: enjoy it as a mindless action movie! Anyone in the know about the British ways of censorship should find it funny. Any feedback is of course welcomed, and I'm happy to explain the hidden meanings should anyone enquire. Its basically just full of things the BBFC cut. A comic romp! smile

NOTE: This is a 3-meg WMV file and is, sadly, of low quality to keep the file size down but its still OK if you watch it full screen and sit back a bit from your monitor. Ive also cut the end credits off to save download time.

Contains protracted scenes of sadistic action violence.
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Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 12:52pm

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Heheh, this is brilliant.

Personally i'd have prefered to watch this without having previous read in such detail, about how this is meant to be satire. This would have been far, far funnier had it been totally unparalleled, inexplicably mindless violence, with utterly no warning or reason razz

As it is though, its still great stuff.

My biggest criticism is about the settings and props. I'm not sure i should mention it, given the irony of the rest of the film; perhaps the fact that your agent drives a mini metro, or the fact that the top secret HQ of the enemy is quite clearly in a pleasantly suburban, middle-class housing estate...is irony too? If it is, not enough was made of it.

If it isn't, i'd heartily recommend you take that roaring beast of a car to your nearest badass industrial complex, then make sure you grade the resulting footage. You clearly have a clue about cutting and filming, etc, so its a shame to see your abilities somewhat wasted by the 'backgarden-antics' feel of what could be a hilariously graphic spoof, if done well.
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 1:45pm

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> Heheh, this is brilliant

Thank you, Im pleased you "got it".

> Personally i'd have prefered to watch this without having previous read
> in such detail, about how this is meant to be satire. This would have
> been far, far funnier had it been totally unparalleled, inexplicably
> mindless violence, with utterly no warning or reason

Well I didnt want people thinking it was "just another mindless action movie"; I felt I needed to give some people background info on the BBFC, etc. The BBFC have a habit of hacking action movies over here in Britain, you see.

> My biggest criticism is about the settings and props. I'm not sure i
> should mention it, given the irony of the rest of the film; perhaps the
> fact that your agent drives a mini metro, or the fact that the top secret
> HQ of the enemy is quite clearly in a pleasantly suburban, middle-class
> housing estate...is irony too? If it is, not enough was made of it

I never really considered it to be honest, lol! smile But it does make a great bitta juxtaposition against such awful violent scenes lol!

Thanks again for the comments; I welcome any criticism. Maybe you'd like to rate it? wink

Take care.
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 2:10pm

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Wow for a first movie that was excellent haha loved your camera angles KEEP IT UP biggrin
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 2:12pm

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Thanks for the comments. Its not my first movie Ive made, its just the first one Ive submitted smile
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 2:23pm

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oh I meant to ask....who made your music?
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 2:27pm

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Its a mixture of stuff, none of it was specially composed. I think Im just good at picking music that suits the on-screen events wink

If this movie is well-received, I might well post some other ones we've done.
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 3:42pm

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I loved it- fantastic, hilarious!!!
Lol- was that first comment from "The Rock"??? (You must never hiesitate)
Anyway, that was pretty much one of the only things I could hear because of the quality. What does he say at the end?
The only suggestion I could offer is to get better sound or a better quality file.
That's it- the acting was EXCELLENT and everything else fit well.
Loved your terrorists, they were quite funny.

I'd love to see more of your work here!!

-Logan-
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 3:44pm

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I really like the camera angle's they were done pretty well. except for the tight wire around the throat and then just snap his neck insted scene. I thought it was abit long. also i have seen this in alot of fxhomer's films
in a shooting scene your putting 50 or so rounds in a person and you got the blood splatt plugins but no bullet holes or blood stains on the person
it's kill the illusion. i know it might be pricey (blood packs) or time staking.
but it make the movie better smile also you had some awesome ideas for death scenes too i give it a (3) like the twist also at the end. maybe Extra (1)

4/5?
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 9:08pm

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I loved it- fantastic, hilarious!!!
Wahey thanks lol. I was hoping people would "get it".

Lol- was that first comment from "The Rock"??? (You must never hiesitate)
Yes it was, a reference to the scene the BBFC cut from the film in England.

Anyway, that was pretty much one of the only things I could hear because of the quality. What does he say at the end?
He says "I really hate this game" but we dubbed 'really' over a cuss word wink I would have uploaded a better version and probably will do for future films, but I wanted to keep the size down.

I'd love to see more of your work here!!
If they powers that be allow it, I will upload more for sure!

Thanks, Logan. We named a character Logan in another film we did wink
Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2005, 9:10pm

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RaZieL60 wrote:

...except for the tight wire around the throat and then just snap his neck insted scene. I thought it was abit long. also i have seen this in alot of fxhomer's films
Its way too long on purpose biggrin As I said, this is a film poking fun at the BBFC, and they hate this kind of thing. So we just made it so long and nasty.

in a shooting scene your putting 50 or so rounds in a person and you got the blood splatt plugins but no bullet holes or blood stains on the person. it's kill the illusion. i know it might be pricey (blood packs) or time staking. but it make the movie better smile
Yeah but its not serious film so I wasnt too fussed. We try to use fake blood if we shoot outisde. As for blood packs, I wouldnt know where to start!

also you had some awesome ideas for death scenes too i give it a (3) like the twist also at the end. maybe Extra (1)
Hehe thanks! smile

4/5?[/quote]
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 12:27am

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Oh I get it biggrin
oh btw "i have seen this in alot of fxhomer's films" was regarding toward the bullet and blood mention be4. But i now get that also lol
cheer's
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 1:22am

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anyone remmember Bad Action Movie? where did that go?
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 4:05pm

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That was entertaining, but it didn't maker me quite love the movie.
It was like, well...not so sure, but I really thought that your way of music and sound work was really good. Actually the knife stuff made more tense in the movie. Effects, such as blood, was not made realistic enough for me to give this a 5, but since of the music work and sounds, also all the perfect conditions, then I'll give this a 4.

I also liked the weapons biggrin
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 4:10pm

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tra wrote:

That was entertaining, but it didn't maker me quite love the movie. It was like, well...not so sure...
Some people won't get it, particular people who have no idea who the BBFC are or what they do and stand for. Shame but never mind! smile

Actually the knife stuff made more tense in the movie
I dont follow you, did you mean "more sense"?

As for the blood, I know it looks fake but I dont think that, in this context, it matters a great deal wink

Thanks for feedback though.
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 4:12pm

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Excellent. That's a 4. Of all the many gun play and fighting movies I've seen on fxhome, this is one of the better ones. The choreography of the ass kicking scenes was top notch. You obviously put a lot of planning into those scenes. What's more, you edited them very precisely. The fire scene was the weakest moment. Dialog was audible. Nice music. The pacing was right on as well. I'll have to find some of your other stuff.
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 4:13pm

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Tense, I really didn't mean that, I meant more....yeh dunno...maybe I should call it more entertaining or something....maybe you understand that more?
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 4:17pm

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ragnar wrote:

Excellent. That's a 4. Of all the many gun play and fighting movies I've seen on fxhome, this is one of the better ones. The choreography of the ass kicking scenes was top notch.
Wow, thanks so much! Lol, I dont know what to say, I really wasnt expecting people to think much of it.

I'll have to find some of your other stuff.
Well I plan on uploading some more films, and in higher quality, so if you'd like to keep an eye out, please do.

Thanks again.
Posted: Fri, 25th Mar 2005, 8:29pm

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I though that this was a good movie, especially the editing. Being a director, I've found it quite difficult making lots of cuts like yourself although i would to find out how directors make lots of cuts like in fight scenes for example, but the editing and acting (the words the hero says too is very James Bond!) But just so i could understand it a little more, I would like to know 2 things:

1) what was the game at the end
2) and what does he say just before he swears and there is an explosion (it sounds like he is saying 'i forgot the card' or something?

anyway great movie looking forward to some more of your work.
Posted: Fri, 25th Mar 2005, 8:37pm

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Thank you!

The game is noit really important, its just a game; a metaphor for the world of censorship. As for what he says before he blows up, he says "I forgot the black card". He needed this to unlock the door (another game reference, where one needs cards to open doors). However, the "black card" is another BBFC reference; keen viewers may have noticed this.

Out of interest, are you British?
Posted: Sat, 26th Mar 2005, 8:23pm

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Occasionally I feel the need to comment on a movie here. This is one of those times.

First let me say that as a simple action movie it's very solid, but then throw in a social political message and suddenly it becomes superb. I agree with the previous comment of wishing I had seen it without having read the description but I understand why you chose to put it up that way. I would suggest not getting into the habit of spoon feeding explanations to the audience before hand but rather making sure all of that is clear from within the confines of the actual piece. That way it can be seen by more people.

What makes the action work so well in my opinion was the weight of it. Punches seemed to connect and bullets looked like they hit something. This of course wasn't due to the run of the mill effects (nice, but nothing special) rather it was all brought together by the editing, sound, and actors reactions. It also shows that you took the time to choreograph at least a few things before shooting, which is always a good thing.

The absolute funniest part for me was the first guard that gets taken down. It managed to be over the top while still retaining a natural flow and sense of grounding. Then after he finally drops there's this change of expression that the lead bond guy (Is that you?) does as he goes back into "investigate with gun" mode that literally had me on the floor.

I look forward to seeing some higher quality new stuff, but I'm going to have to insist on a better version of this one as well. I really liked it.

Keep up the good work.
Posted: Sat, 26th Mar 2005, 9:43pm

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Wow, wow, wow! I honestly thought that posting this movie no one would understand it, hence my detailed synopsis. But Im so pleased you liked it!

I can and will do a higher quality version for you, so *please* bookmark this and look out for it. I have two other movies pending too, you may wanna see those.

On a sidenote, Im actually the guy playing the guards, Im not the agent guy.

Did it *really* make you laugh? And did you get the point we were making, I mean how much do you know about the BBFC and their methods?

Thanks again, the feedback is always great. Please vote if you haven't wink
Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2005, 3:41am

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As a Yank, I thought the movie was very well done. The movie needed more blood! The concept was great. I Hate the FCC, the government body in America that censors our media. Take some hints from Quentin Tarantino and add some blood to that knife. Keep up the good work chaps!


Greg
Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2005, 12:07pm

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Cheers, Gregg. Pleased you enjoyed it!
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 8:52pm

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I did get it, but more in the general sense. While I'm aware of the current issues involving the BBFC the specifics you referenced I did not know. Well at least not all of them. (I did catch The Rock bit.) I can't really say if I would have gotten it because I never had the chance to see it without having read your intro. So who knows. I just would have liked the chance (my point is that you won't always be able to tag such a thing to the fronts of the movies you release). Later if alot of people asked, you could have posted all that detail in response to there questions. To many times it is assumed the audience does not know things and something is sacrificed to expain it to them. Next time keep it in your pants. (and by pants I mean film.)

Oh and I have now voted. Which makes this my first time doing that.

I give it a 4 out of 5.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 9:06pm

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Thanks for the comments. I know people disagreed with me explaining all before letting you watch the film, but I had to do that to prevent ppl seeing it as just "another action mindless movie", as it is mre than that.
Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005, 3:10pm

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Right and I understand that. I'm just saying that you could have made that clear from within the confines of the movie itself, because if the meaning is not conveyed well there then it is lost. Your intro could have been as simple as "an action movie with subtext" and people would have at least known to look for something more. Or perhaps just a title change would make it more apparent.

Of course that's just my opinion.
Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005, 3:11pm

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No, thats a good point you made there. Maybe I gave the audience too much on the plate?

Thanks, I appreciate it smile