Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 2:22pm
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|This is a big deal, only because its the first movie with an actual storyline that we've released. Its a bit of a tired story, as you will see, and it isnt a masterpiece. It was shot in 3 hours on September 18, 2004. It was edited that night, and remained on the shelf. Unhappy with the results, i took it in again and re-edited it. I don't think highly of it myself, but its a good start, but nothing to be taken seriously.|
PS: I've had some reports from various friends that the movie doesnt work. If thats the case, tell me, and ill see what i can do.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 2:38pm
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Actually.. considering soem of the legendary "TimmyD" posts in the past I approached this with some trepidation...
Especially considering the advertised running time of nearly 4 hours .. (It isnt.. Its closer to 3 minutes)
Then.. I had to be careful... Im sitting bored at work.. appearing to be watching a video of a 10 year old girl in pyjamas.. ??? better delete that one quickly...
anyway.. on with the critique...
not actually too bad.. some nicely framed shots, making up for the cliche'd storyline (If it can be called that)
keep it up.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 2:53pm
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Heh. Well, like i said, it's just one of those movies shot quick. We just shot it and edited with no planning, and the result it this. Far from fabulous.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 3:15pm
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Wait a minute, 15+? I saw no violence whatsoever...
I'll give you my 2 cents in a few minutes. I am too tired to type right now.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 3:15pm
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Well timmy you already know what I think about this. The one good thing I can say is it was very good compression for a small file size. And were you trying to sound cool by rating it 15+? ?
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 3:36pm
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I hadnt even thought about that...
So... Timmy.... are you not allowed to watch your own film ?
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 4:31pm
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I think i actually suggested PG for the movie.
EDIT:heh, hers tarn's explination from the chat: Tarn:because it scared the shit outta me!
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Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 4:45pm
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Ok, My two cents:
Worst titles ever.
I really couldn't read a word of it.
Also, it was not scary like, at all. If that is what you were shooting for. A little girl killing another little girl just isn't scary. Aslo, "Later that night?" That is a very corny thing to use in a movie IMO. When the girl was getting up... if you have a shaky camera, do a take 2. I could also hear thiings like maybe a lense cap or something hitting the camera. Just very shaky cams throughout. Heh, and try to avoid the standard iMovie built in sounds. They are very noticable. The walking down the stairs was framed very badly and shakily. Try using a steadicam, or hold your tripod by the center post, r do something to eep it stabilized, if you cant, than just do tripod shots or something. Cool edit on the lighting and thunder part with the shake and all, but not the right choice of sound right there IMO. The girl was moving and smiling when she was dead, and I couldn't really hear what the evil girl said. I will have to give it a 1/5 for everything I mntioned. But you are heading in the right direction and if you follow these criticisms, you will be going in a good direction. And like I mentioned, very nice edit on the thunder part, keep those up.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 8:00pm
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I actually think that the only iMovie standard sound was the main backround ambience stuff, so i did pretty good on that. I reallized that that happens alot, like i can even pick up garageband loops in some TV commercial, so i tried to stay away from the standard sounds.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 8:34pm
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Would of been more scary if the girl had been stabbed, with blood and guts flying everywhere, hitting the camera and then the other girl eating her brains (after frying it in butter) but making a mess everywhere, so she went to get stuff to clean up but there wasn't any!!!!! dramatic music, then titles, or something like that, rather than just shooting her. But anyhoo, It was good, well done.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 8:52pm
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Yeah, in the meantime corrupt the minds of that actors working on it, whos ages were 6 and 10 Timmy claps slowly for mgw...
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 9:10pm
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They have to learn this stuff one day.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 9:56pm
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I want to know why you had a little girl dressed like a prostitute on an off night in your movie. Seriously. What kind of little girl wears that much makeup and fishnet stockings? Or maybe I don't want to know what goes on in your house...
Other than that, this was a pretty generic first movie. Especially around here, where we have dozens upon dozens of "alone in the house with sounds and then they die" movies.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 10:26pm
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the reason for her - er - prostitute look is that we raided the halloween bin before, and she insisted on wearing those. the makeup is because it was after some event thingy that she went to with my sister.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 10:52pm
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Why is this movie gone?
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 10:53pm
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I edited the main like header thingy, so that set its status to pending. Im bothering tarn now.
Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005, 12:57am
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Ok, its back up now. Yeah.
Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005, 2:32am
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Hmm, well let's see.
Angles in this felt like you just stuck the camera there without thinking. You should think before putting the camera anywhere, and try to find the best angle for the mood you're trying to set.
The music was good for a suspence movie, but didn't match with the casual walking around of the girl. The lightning with the music change was good but the lighting was kind of random because you don't see any more after that.
The story was awful, although it was (I think) a test. It's possibly the most overdone thing on FXHome apart from lightsaber tests. The ending is also quite random, and since when do you go down to the darkest part of your attic when you hear footsteps?
The sound was good. The whisper the girl makes was fitting, and if you actually made it, well it was really nice.
The effects were average. Nothing too special.
The editing was meh as well. For a scary movie to be scary you need faster cuts and tighter shots.
And finally there was no noticeable grading, which is absolutely necessary for a horror movie (unless it's Blair Witch Project). Even if you don't have Digigrade yet, iMovie must have some sort of color grading tools.... right?
Overall, a 2/5
Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005, 2:41am
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I had my sister (the creepy girl) say it, and then i tweaked it in Garageband. I didnt care to use iMovie's grading, the effects, when applied, made the movie all jittery, and i didnt take the time to fix them.
Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005, 2:47am
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take the time to fix it, Timmy, always!
Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005, 2:51am
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eat your vegetables, Timmy, always
Oh and the movie...
Good start considering this is your first movie submitted to FXHome. I wont be redundant but I agree with everything that was said. (I've already talked to you).
Posted: Fri, 1st Apr 2005, 11:10am
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I am going to try to just give my opinion with what I saw, and stay away from giving you tips on how to improve yourself because it seems you have, and will get, plenty...so lets just work on those for now, and maybe I will give some for your next project if needed. Let’s get started lol. I tend to agree with most of the reviews and criticisms, most but not all. I can say that I didn't "hate" (for lack of a better word) any thing in this movie. Although an ample amount of movies that originate from FxHome are this kind of linear genre, ex: Person hears noise, person investigates, predictable ending (death), that doesn't mean that your attempt at it was any less successful with me. I don't have any complaints with the text or the sound quite so much, in fact I had no problem hearing any parts of this movie. I did, however, have a hard time determining if you were trying to say if the killer was a ghost, or someone of a super-natural essence, or just an ordinary murderer. With that question in mind, I didn't know what to think about the ending. On one hand, if it is a ghost, why did it use guns? And on the other hand, if it is a killer...why lead her to the basement to kill her with two loud guns, as a pose to something more silent...not necessarily more bloody like some would have wished for. Besides the exception of a few small details, that is about it. With that said, not a bad attempt...especially with your obvious regard and affection for your final result lol. I will give you a two out of five. Let’s see some more films from you.
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Posted: Fri, 1st Apr 2005, 2:54pm
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Better than I expected. Camerawork was wobbly, be more careful how you operate the camera in future. Some nice shots, I liked the cellar & the cobwebs, & I was impressed by your lightning effect when the light flickered. Story was sadly lacking, & like Aculag I was a bit unsure what to make of the girl, her revealing dressing gown & the fishnet stockings...
I see potential here though, don't let it go to waste.
Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005, 1:30am
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the gun thing at the end
a mistake many american horror films make today
sometimes its better not to show or partly show what happens to the character to create more suspense and fear
the thing in the beginning made no sense
Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005, 7:01am
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Cut more often, use more suspensful angles, don't just throw guns in without a point, try not to film in pitch black. Good first try compared to Jack pearces infamous first movie tries.
Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005, 7:41am
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I agree with everyone else on the camera... it just seems messy and unplanned.
The whisper- great. Worked well, but perhaps a foreshadow would have made it a bit better... like small whisperings through the build-up.
The actress is very young and the fishnet stockings made me very confused and scared. Was the goal to make her "raunchy" and "rebellious"??? It also did not match her housecoat, and I am this close -> |---| to calling the fashion police. I have the reciever in my hand... seriously.
For a youngun though, her acting was pretty good!!!
The basket on the stairs was wierd. It drew my attention unecessarily. It's usually better to minimize objects that stand out unless they are a foreshadow, or serve a purpose.
The gun girl was unclear. Why? Who? What? Make sure to ask those questions when you film.
The beginning shot of the girl waving was too short to be there- it served no purpose other than bogging the beginning down (considering the length and style). It would be better if she had been asleep and found that her parents/guardians/significant others were gone via a note or something, upon hearing the noise. Pacing the release of information is critical. That would have been a little better.
Hope that helps. Keep them coming!!
EDIT: Oops... forgot to mention... I liked the title font for "sounds" but your company name was almost "impossible" to read... you should use a more legible font in that case, but the title fit well.
Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005, 2:19am
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Ok guys, thanks for the comments. With all of this in mind, im going to make Sounds 2. Not the average sequel. It'll be better. You can count on it.
EDIT: Approximately 2 Years later...
Sounds 2? What was I thinking?! Get ready for SA-37.
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Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005, 2:53am
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Good to hear, I can't wait. Better match your sig pic.