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The Cage

Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005, 11:11am

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The Artur

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This is a movie about a girl in the holocaust, based on a book : "The Cage", my sister was doing a project for school and wanted my help, so i helped her make this movie with a few friends. I hope you guys like it.
At some points the acting realy isnt that great, but thats the bestthey could do( or the best they wanted to do ), and i still think they did pretty good. The quality is pretty sucky, i tried to make it as best i could, without having the size too big, Its still pretty big, and the quality is not as good as my good , large version file.


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Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 1:05am

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Where did you get your gun shot sound effects?
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 1:14am

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The soldier sequence, i a sound clip taken from Saving Private ryan, and the single shot at the end is from findsounds.com
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 1:16am

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"Life is cruel!"

That about sums it up.
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 1:33am

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Aculag wrote:

"Life is cruel!"

That about sums it up.
What do you mean? Was it terrible?
I think its a lot better than my other movies. Do you have any advice, or criticizm you'd like to add on to that?
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 2:28am

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hmm...i liked it. I have plenty of suggestions, too.

First off, the best parts of the movie were the scenes shot in the dark and the war scene. The dark scenes were effectively gloomy and the war scene worked because a) character had believable costume and b) you had some excellent sound work.

The not so good: Though I realize this was a school project, for future projects, try to get age-appropriate actors. It really helps when you're dealing with serious subject matter.

The costumes ranged from adequate to atrocious, the worst being the Nazi soldier. I could see the logo on his shirt through the trenchcoat.

The setting. The backyard just didn't work. I still don't know where the movie was supposed to be set (the fence make me think concentration camp but i wasn't totally sure).

Also, try some color grading and frame rate correction--it does wonders for making your digital video look more like film.

Overall, a good outing.
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 2:46am

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Thanks for your comments. The main character in the book is a kid anyways, but the other actors are younger than the characters.

Its set in a concentration camp. I gonna hope to get better as i make more. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 3:51pm

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Artur L wrote:

What do you mean? Was it terrible?
I think its a lot better than my other movies. Do you have any advice, or criticizm you'd like to add on to that?
The acting was bad, which you already pointed out, and I tend to not believe that a bunch of kids are in such situations (You said the girl in the book was a child, but I know that most Nazi officers probably weren't) if they can't act it well.

The scene by the bed ("Life is cruel!") was the low point, I thought. But most of the dialogue in which the characters said the main character's name (so.. most of it) was bad.
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 8:13pm

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Ok well a few things. I thought that the lighting hurt you a lot. In some scenes I couldn't see anyones face. Also when you are filming take a little more time to clear out your set. When the girl is getting whipped I saw patio furniture a garden hose and a gas grill. In the begining when the girl is reading she messes up a few times. I would take a little more time to work on the performance. That's all I have to say.
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 9:11pm

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Overall, good for a first try.
Good music, good sound effects. Good feel and tone.
Acting was shallow, lighting was a problem, and shots weren't framed properly.
Keep it up, and above all, watch a lot of films on the internet to learn some tricks!!'


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Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 9:45pm

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masta oooba

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I didn't think there was anything that was really good about this movie, even for a first try. In fact, it was pretty far on the negative side of the scale.
Sorry, I know that kind of thing is hard to hear. But then again, you can always say "Hey, that guy doesn't know what hes talking about."
I just don't have anything positive to say about the movie.

Suggestions: (heres where the pickyness gets rediculous)
Try to make your second film a little more realistic. Focus on the details. Costumes (which were terrible, if there were no captions in the film, I would have had no idea what it was about). The fence that could have easily been scaled by even a five year old. The Nazi officer tilting his gun to the side when shooting it. Those things are noticable.
I understand that it is about the Holocaust, but it should have followed at least SOME sort of format. All I saw was a bunch of clustered footage of children.
The acting was bad even for children. But I do understand your age, and so I can't really say anything....besides what I just said....a second ago....nevermind. It was some of the worst I've seen. But a worthy effort, I'll give you that.

This is a bad film. But for your age, and the fact that it was a first film, I think you made a really good effort (besides the acting) and I encourage you to make something else, maybe not school related.
PS- I definately would not have been able to make as good a film as this at your age. And that's not saying much, which is why I never made anything at that time...
Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005, 10:41pm

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The Artur

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The problem is this wasnt a first.
Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005, 1:44am

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I know we are giving you some hard advice, but I think everything we've mentioned is easy to solve. Lighting takes just messing with your exposure or picking a better spot. Making scenes believable just involves moving some stuff around. Acting is one thing you might have more trouble with, but you can just do more takes and get a good result on that. I think you can make a good movie you might just need to take a little more time setting things up. I'll be looking forward to your next one.
Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005, 2:17am

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masta oooba

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"The problem is this wasnt a first."

I think I read that someone had said it was your first, but hey, apperently not.