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Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 2:26am

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Halo Movie http://movies.go.com/moviesdynamic/movies/movie?id=688725 do you think it'll suck or be good. I really hope they don't mess this whole thing up. If Ridley Scott directed this it would be awesome.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 2:35am

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I'd rather they use an unknown director (or fairly unknown, anyway) to do a movie like this, because if someone like Ridley Scott did it, everyone would be so excited just because of that, and then most likely disappointed because it's not Gladiator.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 3:20am

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Hmm... I'll reserve my opinions untill I hear more. But I think we can all smell controversy already.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 3:59am

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Yeah you're probably right Aculag. Like with Peter Jackson and LOTR all people had to go off was the books and it turned out amazing. I really hope this goes well.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 4:33am

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This is a sad, sad shame. Halo, a cinematic videogame is now being turned into a movie...it dosn't make sense. This is more aggrevating than the sequel machines. Why must everything in the media/entertainment industry be wrung dry of everything good and original by itself?
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 4:38am

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I don't get it, how is it bad? If it turns out awesome, yipee. If it turns out bad, then nothing will happen... It wont just destroy the Halo saga or whatever... I really hate it when fans complain when something new comes, if you look at it from an optamistic point of view, you can simply say, hmm, it migh be good, but if not then who cares? I can't see how this will be "aggrevating." But exaggerated if you ask me. Now if Halo on Ice came out I might be disgusted, but certainly not aggrevated. I hope you see where I am coming from.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 1:30pm

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Serpent wrote:

I don't get it, how is it bad? If it turns out awesome, yipee. If it turns out bad, then nothing will happen... It wont just destroy the Halo saga or whatever...
Well, the Resident Evil movies didn't destroy the franchise, so I'm sure one bad movie won't do anything to Halo.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 2:38pm

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Im not worried about the franchise, I just want to see something new.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 3:23pm

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Deepcoiler wrote:

Serpent wrote:

I don't get it, how is it bad? If it turns out awesome, yipee. If it turns out bad, then nothing will happen... It wont just destroy the Halo saga or whatever...
Well, the Resident Evil movies didn't destroy the franchise, so I'm sure one bad movie won't do anything to Halo.
Yeah, if the movie is crap. It'll be exactly like the games.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 3:29pm

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jstow222 wrote:

Im not worried about the franchise, I just want to see something new.
Erm, who cares if there is one old movie, even though it isn't in my opinion. There are plenty of new movies coming out from now to 2006, so I think you are exaggerating a bunch when you are speaking.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 4:03pm

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I haven't played enough of Halo2 to form a proper opinion on the gameplay (what I did play seemed ok, though inevitably hampered by the control mechanism), but what I did get to witness was the appallingly b-movie story, acting, dialogue and cut scenes.

Perhaps in the video game arena this kind of story can be hailed as something special (depressing, aint' it?), but if you put it into the movie arena it'll be laughed out of the theatres.

I could probably count the number of games that have had a genuinely good narrative (ie, one that could stand proudly beside classic novels, classic movies etc) on one hand. Halo 1/2 ain't one of 'em.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 5:33pm

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jstow222 wrote:

Why must everything in the media/entertainment industry be wrung dry of everything good and original by itself?
Not everything, just everything that comes out of Hollywood.

Edit: I played through Halo, and when Halo 2 came out, I was excited to play it, but it just didn't do it for me. It was the same old stuff, with slight upgrades. I don't think a Halo movie is a good idea. Don't really think any video game movie is a good idea, unless it was The Dig, and I'd get to make that. wink
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 6:00pm

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I think if they based it off of the Halo Books it would be much better. One problem I can see them facing is how to make a movie out of say 11 levels of gameplay. You have to pick and choose and that's what will get fans angry.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 6:48pm

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there are only 10 levels... and The fall of reach would make a pretty good movie i suppose.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 7:27pm

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I was making a guess off of my head for halo 1. Fall of Reach would make a good part for the huge fight scene when all of the ships are attacking.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 9:23pm

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Halo is not a gret story to begin with, and for those who have played the games, they know what happens. Also, some things that work in video games will not work in a film, one of those things in Halo, and the biggest, is the character of Master Chief. It will just be awkward and goofy.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 10:20pm

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So far, this thread has mostly been Halo fans saying "omg!!11 great!!" and Halo haters (also known as educated PC Gamers) predicting the likely outcome that the film will be cack.

However, no one has really looked at the bigger picture or atleast the possibilities that a Halo movie brings with it for other computer game to film conversions of the future.
It wasn't immediately that comic books were treated with the respect that they are now when it came to adapting them into movies. Infact, until recently all comic book movies have been dire and hated to the most part by the comics fans, it's only after movies like Sin City showcase how successful a 'true to its roots' comic movie can be that will kick others into doing the same.

And maybe Halo can do that, though I do doubt it is the correct type of material to be used in order to create a good movie (as Tarn pointed out). Though if things remain as they seem to always end up with game to film adaptations (Resident Evil's brilliant storyline was totally changed and messed up by the movie) then Halo could well be an epic, involving movie.

From what I've seen, if any movie is going to respect it's game roots it's going to be the Silent Hill movie. Now there's something to get excited about.
Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005, 10:25pm

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Many many games have been considered for a film adaptation. Luckily, most of them haven't gone through the general rumour or idea phase. Prince of Persia, Eternal Darkness... those games to film adaptations woulda been ruined if not handled carefully. Luckily I think they are now cancelled.

The Halo game isn't suitable for a film. Go watch Robocop followed by Starship Troopers. Good luck to the makers though. I'm sure they'll have a great time trying to work out a plot and storyline.

Perfect Dark, Prince of Persia, Eternal Darkness and Beyond Good and Evil as well as Deus Ex would make very good films if treated right. Better than the potential I can see in Halo anyways.
Posted: Mon, 2nd May 2005, 2:11am

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there are only 10 levels... and The fall of reach would make a pretty good movie i suppose.
yeah i agree the should make it off of the books that would be awesome to have trilogy of halo. Because the books go way more into depth then the game. And the books are slightly different in there story. I'll keep an open mind for the halo movie.
Posted: Mon, 2nd May 2005, 2:15am

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The Halo game isn't suitable for a film. Go watch Robocop followed by Starship Troopers. Good luck to the makers though. I'm sure they'll have a great time trying to work out a plot and storyline..
True maybe but I think they could adapt the books just as good as any other book. And beleive me the books are way different than the game
Posted: Mon, 2nd May 2005, 5:22pm

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True maybe but I think they could adapt the books just as good as any other book. And beleive me the books are way different than the game
The books were terrible. I firmly believe that if a computer game needs someone to read books written about the storyline then in itself the game is a failure. Reading a storyline is something from the ages of Doom 2 and Wolfenstein 3D, surely modern gaming is about experiencing a story.

My biggest problem with Halo as a movie concept is it's main character. The Master Chief is an unloveable, hugely cheesey action character. There will have to be some form of MAJOR alteration to resurrect that. His only defence in a gaming perspective was that you get to be him, and you don't get such a privelege within a movie.

I think this is as doomed as the Doom movie (which is doomed.).
Posted: Mon, 2nd May 2005, 11:33pm

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As a halo fun, I know that this would probably suck, even with a director as great as Ridley Scott.
Its not a movie story line. He's all alone half of the time, and all he would be talking to would be whats her face. But if they can pull it off, cool, but if they can't, oh well. Either way, I don't care, but if it does come out, I will see it.
As like the other guy said, it will feel akward watching him get shot ten times, and not getting hurt, it would just be really wierd, like he's invincable. Plus the fact that the Master Chief is a girl buffed up on steroids is a really disturbing idea, who thought of that one?
Posted: Thu, 5th May 2005, 9:14pm

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As a halo fun, I know that this would probably suck, even with a director as great as Ridley Scott.
Its not a movie story line. He's all alone half of the time, and all he would be talking to would be whats her face. But if they can pull it off, cool, but if they can't, oh well. Either way, I don't care, but if it does come out, I will see it.
As like the other guy said, it will feel akward watching him get shot ten times, and not getting hurt, it would just be really wierd, like he's invincable. Plus the fact that the Master Chief is a girl buffed up on steroids is a really disturbing idea, who thought of that one?
You have never read the books have you there is much more going on in halo then the master chief. Honsetly anyone who says that they can't make a movie out of halo needs to go read the book and then tell if they still can't because beleive me the book is way different
Posted: Thu, 5th May 2005, 9:29pm

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You have never read the books have you there is much more going on in halo then the master chief. Honsetly anyone who says that they can't make a movie out of halo needs to go read the book and then tell if they still can't because beleive me the book is way different
Unless in the books, the Master Chief has some character. i.e. Is not a robot, and comes out from his suit at some point, then I don't see how "read the books!" serves as a good argument in light of the case most of us have been making.

The only possible way that I can forsee the movie being any good whatsoever, is if it is not about the Master Chief though he could feature in it briefly, whilst the main focus being on something related to the Halo Universe.
Then ontop of that, they need to add an impressive alien race (not these crappy squealing little rats) and convert a poor b movie into an epic masterpience in terms of scripting.

Then, and only then might it be worth watching. Though the problem is that the producers of the movie probably don't care how good it is. Halo fans will flock to see it regardless.

I've been waiting for a computer game based movie that is true to it's roots for a long, long time now. And whilst I do hope that Halo will proove to be that movie I can't help but question the idea of using something from a book written between computer games... that's delving too far away from the experience a player has, and the story they learn whilst playing it. And because of this, I think Halo would be the wrong movie to be a good true to it's roots game.

It's a dire shame that Resident Evil was so far fetched from it's origional story as it was one of few games I considered the story to be close to perfect for becoming a movie, crazy that the film would be so off.

Then there's the doom movie, starring the Rock. Set on earth, nothing about mars nor demons... give me a break...

I don't understand how anyone could be optimistic about Halo, a game with a pretty poor storyline (be honest...) when we've all seen what's happened to games with both similiarly poor and rather good storylines.

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Posted: Fri, 6th May 2005, 12:16am

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I also think that there has to be something that the audience can relate to with the character. I hate it when the character is invensible to everything, emotionally, and physically, because that just makes your character dull, and your stuck watching a boring person for 1.5-2.5 hours.
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My biggest issue with game adoptions is that the directors seem to feel the need to 'interpret' the material. Video games don't need interpreting. All the art direction has been done for you. It would be nice to see a movie that takes a videogame and basically plays it out scene for scene on the big screen, but with all the additional flare that the cinema provides. Candidates in my mind are Full Throttle, MGS, Max Payne (1 or 2), Half Life, FFVII, FFVIII, and Ninja Gaiden (Xbox). Halo is in essence a multiplayer game, and adapting that to film is like adapting CS to film.
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you know what would have been da bob-omb? if in the mario movie, mario jumped ontop of bad guys and got a 1-up or something.
Posted: Fri, 6th May 2005, 1:43pm

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sidewinder wrote:

My biggest issue with game adoptions is that the directors seem to feel the need to 'interpret' the material. Video games don't need interpreting. All the art direction has been done for you. It would be nice to see a movie that takes a videogame and basically plays it out scene for scene on the big screen, but with all the additional flare that the cinema provides. Candidates in my mind are Full Throttle, MGS, Max Payne (1 or 2), Half Life, FFVII, FFVIII, and Ninja Gaiden (Xbox). Halo is in essence a multiplayer game, and adapting that to film is like adapting CS to film.
I'd tend to agree with you on this one (particuarly about Max Payne). There are quite a few games that a simple straight port would work for. It's hardly unpredictable that directors only go for the biggest titles to convert into movies though, whether or not they're going to be easily adaptable.

And just an off topic note : Bungie recently tweaked Halo 2's multiplayer to balance out the weapons and remove bugs. It's a kinda shame some of the bugs were removed (as they were fun and couldnt really be used to cheat) but the weapon balances make the game alot less frustrating.
Posted: Fri, 6th May 2005, 3:44pm

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Oh, it makes the game more fun, just because it adds a lot of variety, but there were plenty of ways to deal with those plasma battle-riflers. smile
Posted: Sat, 7th May 2005, 5:21pm

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Unless in the books, the Master Chief has some character. i.e. Is not a robot, and comes out from his suit at some point, then I don't see how "read the books!" serves as a good argument in light of the case most of us have been making.
LOL thats exactly what he does. Hes not a ROBOT and he Does have PERSONALIY and he does TALK like a normal person to other people. And its not all about him. And yes he does take off his suit in the book. BEcause hes not the only surviver from reach there are 1000 other from the pillar of autumn that are hold up a defence. IN fact i belive the books are pretty suspenseful. I could defintialty see it being made a movie. And i say read the books because its almost a whole different story. And is presented so much diferentl then the game. There is so much more that goes on in the book. See if they made a movie the camera wouldn't just be follow master Cheif the whole time. Which most of the people here seem to think. It would show how the humans are holding and there completley differnet mission than the master chiefs. THen it could show the covenant piont of view just like they do in halo 2. I'm yes the game is all about master chief. And the book is about him too but not entirely....Word
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LOL thats exactly what he does. Hes not a ROBOT and he Does have PERSONALIY and he does TALK like a normal person to other people. And its not all about him. And yes he does take off his suit in the book. BEcause hes not the only surviver from reach there are 1000 other from the pillar of autumn that are hold up a defence. IN fact i belive the books are pretty suspenseful. I could defintialty see it being made a movie. And i say read the books because its almost a whole different story. And is presented so much diferentl then the game. There is so much more that goes on in the book. See if they made a movie the camera wouldn't just be follow master Cheif the whole time. Which most of the people here seem to think. It would show how the humans are holding and there completley differnet mission than the master chiefs. THen it could show the covenant piont of view just like they do in halo 2. I'm yes the game is all about master chief. And the book is about him too but not entirely....Word
So you mean to tell me, that a ship (which was blown up) that crash landed on a planet (which you blow up) had survivors. I don't think so, the books sound awful. The only character that I believe survived with any feasibility was one of the sergeants who comments "never you mind" when you ask him how he survived, which was a humerous addition considering Halo's secret ending.
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So you mean to tell me, that a ship (which was blown up) that crash landed on a planet (which you blow up) had survivors. I don't think so, the books sound awful. The only character that I believe survived with any feasibility was one of the sergeants who comments "never you mind" when you ask him how he survived, which was a humerous addition considering Halo's secret ending.
Actually they didn't blow up the pillar of autumn they wounded it. thousands of civilians got off the ship by escape pods. and the crash landed on halo so yes there were plenty of survivors. Plus there are soldiers called helljumpers that arnt even mention in the game that got of the ship also and there one of the navys best soldiers (besides the spartans) And the ending to halo ends with all the humans capturing the covenant ship right before the pillar of autumn is blown up but becuase the flood are in the ship( o by the way they took over the ship without any help fromm the master chief. who was on a completely diffenet end of halo) But they decide to blow it up with all the human survivers becuase they don't want the flood spreading to earth. So dont try to make the point about the story, when you don't even know what happens in the game.
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Oh yeah by the the story of the book is the same as the game it just goes into more depth and diffenet points of view other than the master chief. Which is what most of you complain about that you couldn't make a movie just following the master chief. The story of halo is more than just master chief or even about halo. While Halo is crucial part in the story the huge scope of it is the Covenant race waging a holy war on the humans and the humans are trying to keep them from finding earth. Because if they do then the will render the human race extinct. Anyways the story of halo is really facinating. once you understand the whole thing.
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Yeah in the book they get off with their pelican drop ships and escape pods. They also recover Warthogs and Scorpions from the Pillar of Autumn. Then they hold up against a wave of ghosts and banshees. The books are actually really good.
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Actually they didn't blow up the pillar of autumn they wounded it. thousands of civilians got off the ship by escape pods. and the crash landed on halo so yes there were plenty of survivors. Plus there are soldiers called helljumpers that arnt even mention in the game that got of the ship also and there one of the navys best soldiers (besides the spartans) And the ending to halo ends with all the humans capturing the covenant ship right before the pillar of autumn is blown up but becuase the flood are in the ship( o by the way they took over the ship without any help fromm the master chief. who was on a completely diffenet end of halo) But they decide to blow it up with all the human survivers becuase they don't want the flood spreading to earth. So dont try to make the point about the story, when you don't even know what happens in the game.
Hmmm, it was a while ago when I last played through. But... The Pillar of Autumn crash lands on Halo after you've already left it in an escape pod, and at the end of the game you fight your way back into it so you can overheat it's engines, blow it up and ultimately blow up Halo before it fires.
Throughout the game I have no recollection of humans getting a covenent ship, infact the secret ending shows the sarge embracing a covenent as the planet explodes, I could be wrong... as you do tend to forget about anything else when you play through something like Half Life 2.
I know the Halo story well enough to know that it's a poor concept for a movie as a computer game. Whilst the books may well be brilliant, at what stage does the movie no longer become based on a computer game? Surely it'll be based on a book if they're that fantastic wink

I've made my views pretty clear, and I'm not outright attacking Halo. As a gamer I pay interest in any game to movie adaptation coming out, and I can't help but think that the Halo games are movie worthy, that's what this entire thread has been about, the game. You know where to stick the books razz Halo didn't get famous because of the books.

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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2005, 7:40pm

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Hold on. The book is based on the computer game. Even if the film is based on the book, that means its based on the computer game.

Surely?
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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

ssj john wrote:

Actually they didn't blow up the pillar of autumn they wounded it. thousands of civilians got off the ship by escape pods. and the crash landed on halo so yes there were plenty of survivors. Plus there are soldiers called helljumpers that arnt even mention in the game that got of the ship also and there one of the navys best soldiers (besides the spartans) And the ending to halo ends with all the humans capturing the covenant ship right before the pillar of autumn is blown up but becuase the flood are in the ship( o by the way they took over the ship without any help fromm the master chief. who was on a completely diffenet end of halo) But they decide to blow it up with all the human survivers becuase they don't want the flood spreading to earth. So dont try to make the point about the story, when you don't even know what happens in the game.
Hmmm, it was a while ago when I last played through. But... The Pillar of Autumn crash lands on Halo after you've already left it in an escape pod, and at the end of the game you fight your way back into it so you can overheat it's engines, blow it up and ultimately blow up Halo before it fires.
Throughout the game I have no recollection of humans getting a covenent ship, infact the secret ending shows the sarge embracing a covenent as the planet explodes, I could be wrong... what stage does the movie no longer become based on a computer game? Surely it'll be based on a book if they're that fantastic wink
When i said the didnt blow it up they wounded it i meant before they crash landed on halo the canvenent didnt blow it up. And yes in the game it dosnt show that the humans capture the truth and reconciliation but in the book it does thats what im saying there is so much that they could show in the movie from the books then from the game. My opinion is that they should do a book to movie adaptation instead of a game to movie because it would be a great movie but it would still appeal to halo game fans because it still would have the core story.
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er-no wrote:

Hold on. The book is based on the computer game. Even if the film is based on the book, that means its based on the computer game.

Surely?
yes true but what im saying is that the game follows the master cheif the whole intire time right? THe book dosnt. While there are all the good parts to the game that involve the MasterChief in the book, there is more then just master chief there is a huge war going on. on halo thats my point. If they do the books they will have alot more story to work with. ANd believe me i do think they could mess this whole thing up and make it suck im just saying they have a better chance of making a action packed story involving movie if they did it off the book instead the game where i think they would just do a action packed movie with a weak story.
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ssj john wrote:

yes true but what im saying is that the game follows the master cheif the whole intire time right? THe book dosnt. While there are all the good parts to the game that involve the MasterChief in the book, there is more then just master chief there is a huge war going on. on halo thats my point. If they do the books they will have alot more story to work with. ANd believe me i do think they could mess this whole thing up and make it suck im just saying they have a better chance of making a action packed story involving movie if they did it off the book instead the game where i think they would just do a action packed movie with a weak story.
So what you're saying... is what I said a page ago...

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The only possible way that I can forsee the movie being any good whatsoever, is if it is not about the Master Chief though he could feature in it briefly, whilst the main focus being on something related to the Halo Universe.
Nice one Buckwheat, although obviously I agree with you.
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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

So what you're saying... is what I said a page ago...
The only possible way that I can forsee the movie being any good whatsoever, is if it is not about the Master Chief though he could feature in it briefly, whilst the main focus being on something related to the Halo Universe.
Nice one Buckwheat, although obviously I agree with you.[/quote]

Yes but I dont agree that MC should be in it briefly, because he is a big part of the halo story. Other than that yes a I agree with you.

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Yes but i dont agree that you should be in it briefly because he is abig part of the halo story even being destroyed. Other than that yes a i agree with you.
In your own time, please edit that post so it makes sense wink
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ssj john vs Hybrid Halo in the battle for the pointless win of the "trophy of the writer and the director of the halo movie really caring about your two opinions...."
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Will the argument ever end?

ssj john vs Hybrid Halo in the battle for the pointless win of the "trophy of the writer and the director of the halo movie really caring about your two opinions...."
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