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Resetting the mask every frame? [ANSWER]

Posted: Mon, 16th May 2005, 4:28pm

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Obi Wan Kenobi

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When placing masks, I find that each frame will need a completely different shape. Since making single masks for each frame would be a lot of work, how can I reshape the quad placing point by point for every frame, or can't I?
Posted: Tue, 17th May 2005, 3:04pm

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Once you create a mask, you can tween the points frame-by-frame. Simply add a mask to you object/layer, draw the first one, then click animate. When you jump to the next frame, you can move the points into the next position, the mask will tween between the old and new shape.

If thats not very clear let me know and i'll try and expand my answer. smile
Posted: Tue, 17th May 2005, 6:25pm

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Obi Wan Kenobi

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Well, what I meant was, that each frame will need such a different mask from the other frames, so that tweening isn't gonna do the job. In AlamDV 2, there was the ability to wipe out the quad for that frame so that it appeared in the middle of the screen in the oiginal form, and then you could reshape it entirely for that one frame, without changing the other frames' masks. Let's say I would want to do this with 20 frames; then creating 20 masks that each cover one frame is gonna make the shot a bit complicated.
So actually, what I want to do is draw a completely new mask for each frame, in one mask-'unit'.
Maybe I didn't understand your explanation (there's a chance razz ) then, yes, please expand your answer.
Posted: Thu, 19th May 2005, 7:22am

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Joshua Davies

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A single mask object has to retain the same amount of points once switched to animate mode so you can't just start over. I wonder how many people would like to be able to just totally redraw the mask every frame - if people need it we'll consider adding another mask type in the future.
Posted: Thu, 19th May 2005, 3:13pm

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Obi Wan Kenobi

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WoW! Thanx, I appreciate it, hope more people will want it! razz
Posted: Thu, 19th May 2005, 6:47pm

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I could definitely see some uses for that option... I'd love to see that in an updated build sometime in the future.


On a side note, how friggin great is it to be able to directly ask the program creators for features and then have them show up? clap
Posted: Thu, 19th May 2005, 6:48pm

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Joshua Davies

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steeb69 - Thats the way we like it here at FXhome. We make the programs for you guys so its only fair you get to influence what we put in to it. smile
Posted: Tue, 31st May 2005, 8:50pm

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shidiac

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am with the addition of such an option... good luck smile
Posted: Tue, 31st May 2005, 9:05pm

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schwar wrote:

I wonder how many people would like to be able to just totally redraw the mask every frame - if people need it we'll consider adding another mask type in the future.
I'd love to have that option. Sometimes it would be easier to just redraw the shape rather than move all the points around only to find you need just one or two more points to make it work with the next frame.
Posted: Tue, 31st May 2005, 9:52pm

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definately, sometimes its just too painstaking to move so many points around, if you have more than like 4 or 5, it gets really really annoying, and it'd just be faster to redraw it on each frame.
Posted: Tue, 31st May 2005, 11:09pm

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raf1

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I'm in for the additional mask option.

Thanks.
Posted: Wed, 1st Jun 2005, 7:04am

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This would certainly be a welcome addition to EffectsLab, and it is always good to have the option in, as long as it doesn't take too much effort to program.
I expect that you would have to re-draw it each frame, and couldn't swap between redrawing and animating the mask; this would be tricky to implement code-wise.

This extra mask mode would be of good use smile
Posted: Sat, 4th Jun 2005, 11:33am

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Richard Summers

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How about also having the choice of creating a circular mask ?

Maybe ist already possible, but at the moment i am having to create 6 points and then try to smooth them out to create a circle.
Posted: Sat, 4th Jun 2005, 2:38pm

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Brettsta

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Why would you need such a specific shape for something you can make precise on your own?
Posted: Sun, 5th Jun 2005, 7:25pm

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Richard Summers

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I cant make it precise - thats just it !
Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2005, 6:00am

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Obi Wan Kenobi

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Perhaps somebody could make a preset of the shape, or something like that.
Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005, 3:16pm

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foleypro

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That would be an awesome feature...
Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005, 9:48am

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Obi Wan Kenobi

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Can't you just place the tip points over eachother, and the hilt points too, somewhere else, and then set the curvatures to 1.00?