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Posted: Thu, 16th Jun 2005, 2:10pm

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*raises freakin paw*

heck yeah that movie ruled and any who disagrees is added to a bad list so dont you DARE disagree in this thread!

anyway I thought it was cool cause there was TONS of action and christian bale is DA BOMB and so is katie holms....

so post your LOVE for BATMAN HERERE!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu, 16th Jun 2005, 5:53pm

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I've been looking forward to this movie whole year but the freakin norwegian cinema is allways behind on everything (well not everything but i'd like to critizise them for it ).
Posted: Thu, 16th Jun 2005, 7:57pm

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Sorted the posts.

Off to see this tommorrow.
Really cant wait biggrin

Could possibly be the best film ever?

Christian Bale as Batman.

Already won!
Posted: Thu, 16th Jun 2005, 8:38pm

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Lord of the Rings quality; Epic.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 12:15am

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It was absolutely superb! It's about time a proper Batman film was made and this was it! I'm so glad they wrote a great film for the Batman. It works so well and there was even a lot of great humour that made me love the film more. It touches on many levels and that's something I'd never thought about because of the first incarnations of the Batman films. I like the real look at the world of Batman, i.e. not being stuck in a studio set all the time!

Will DC comics get more business from hollywood now?

Adam.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 12:51am

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Loved it. Very refreshing take on the superhero genre and incredibly exciting to see the character of Batman/Bruce Wayne tackled seriously and with proper depth for once. This is how I've always thought of Batman, so was hugely exciting to see it done right.

Will need to see it a second time to truly appreciate it - it's so different to the previous Batman films that I spent much of the film noticing the contrast in style. If I see it a second time, I can enjoy it more on its own terms.

Bring on Batman 2.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 2:20am

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It was good, not great. Had some flaws. Slightly below Spiderman 2 quality. It became apparent in the movie that Christopher Nolan does not know how to film fighting and stunts. Also, the amount of villains detracted from that spark created when two charismatic characters oppose each other, since no single villain really was portrayed as Batman's rival.

That said, Chrisitan Bale was excellent.

But I'm not sure this is better than Burton's movies.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 2:35am

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Also, the amount of villains detracted from that spark created when two charismatic characters oppose each other, since no single villain really was portrayed as Batman's rival.
That is because the movie is revolved around Bruce Wayne. The intent of this movie was just as the name suggests, the beginning of Batman. He did not have any villains the second he became Batman. The story shows how he creates these villains; like when Gordan at the end says something along the lines of...

SPOILER

"You've created more of a mess" when all the inmates of Arkhum Asylum escape.

I forget the exact line however the second and third film will focus on the connection between Batman and his villains, such as 2Face (Harvy Dent?) and Joker.

The Scarecrow and Rha's Al Ghul were used as instruments to further the creation of Batman, and considering they were not killed (but you didn't actually see Rha's die did you?) they very well may make a return in future installments.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 3:06am

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*The following message contains spoilers*










I know it was on the development of batman, but he did have villains right off the bat. The mob boss. Scarecrow. Qui Gon Jin. The first two weren't necessarily Batman's villains, but they were definitely villains already established before he showed up. The thing is, even if you're showing the beginnings of a superhero, it's not very interesting without a bad guy, and Nolan never really picked one to develop.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 3:30am

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adamlightandmagic wrote:

Will DC comics get more business from hollywood now?
League of Extradinary Gentlemen
From Hell
V for Vendetta
Batman Begins
Superman

all went through DC, I don't think it's possible for DC to get more business right now razz
I'll be going to see Batman Begins soon, Christian Bale is a long time favourite of mine so I doubt very much that I'll be dissappointed.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 3:38am

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sidewinder wrote:

*The following message contains spoilers*

I know it was on the development of batman, but he did have villains right off the bat. The mob boss. Scarecrow. Qui Gon Jin. The first two weren't necessarily Batman's villains, but they were definitely villains already established before he showed up. The thing is, even if you're showing the beginnings of a superhero, it's not very interesting without a bad guy, and Nolan never really picked one to develop.
Sorry, but wasn't the whole point of why Batman was created, so that Wayne can help Gotham by removing the scum that pulls it down? So, in other words, anyone doing wrong there WILL be dealt with by Batman. And that means all 3 that you mention, Sidewinder.

And my personal feelings about this latest Batman film is that it's the best one I've ever seen. Burton's are good, but these days, while I can watch and enjoy them, it doesn't hold the same feeling it used to. I used to think Batman Returns was a great film, but these days it seems quite boring, somehow.

All I can say about the latest one is that it really left me wanting more and that to me is the greatest feeling to come away from the cinema with.

EDIT: And the gripe I always had with previous batman films is that the joker, penguin, etc. were all killed off. Dead and buried. That's probably why I appreciate the cartoon from WB all those years back. It kept them alive. They shouldn't just KILL their bad guy everytime. Something I'm hoping is being added to the series as we now know Wayne doesn't want to kill his enemies.

Adam.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 4:33am

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I'm going to see it this weekend I'm hoping for good things. I saw Christian Bale in a movie the other day called Equilibrium. Has anyone seen that? It had such good action scenes, but not the best story. I hope the action will continue into this one.
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 6:10am

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thier is not much to say only that is was AMAZING! finally they do batman right! HALALUYA! surprised
Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 9:35am

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sidewinder wrote:

It was good, not great. Had some flaws. Slightly below Spiderman 2 quality.
I'd say they're too different to directly compare. In tone it's closer to X2 (which I rate above Spidey 2 myself), although that's still not quite right.

It became apparent in the movie that Christopher Nolan does not know how to film fighting and stunts.
Hm, what makes you say that? I really liked the way everything was shot. Something I really, really appreciated was that it didn't go for the balletic, overly-choreographed and silly fighting that has been so in-vogue in Hollywood ever since Crouching Tiger and The Matrix came out.

When Ducard is training Wayne, he even says "This isn't a dance!", which amused me. The fighting is down and dirty, it feels painful, you're never quite sure where the next blow is coming from and it's frantic - as fighting should be (in a film like this, anyway). The fighting in Batman Begins isn't trying to be cool in a clinical, long-wide-shots-that-show-cool-moves kinda way.

In fact, the action is kinda shot from the criminal's point of view - they never know where Batman is coming from next, and he's always exactly where they don't think he is. It's about stealth and fear, not jumping out into the open and looking cool while doing kung fu. smile

However, the more 'staged' fights, such as the one on the ice, in Ra's Al Ghul's place and on the train at the end I felt were very visceral and exciting.

Personal preference, I expect. As much as I love the massively choreographed fighting and "look how talented our actors are" filming of other movies, I don't think it would have suited Batman Begins at all. In fact, I'd have been rather pissed off if they'd gone down that overly-trodden route.

Also, the amount of villains detracted from that spark created when two charismatic characters oppose each other, since no single villain really was portrayed as Batman's rival.
I took the main villain to be Gotham itself, and fear (both Wayne's fear and the general pervading sense of it in the city). Batman brought hope to the city, at least on first glance.

That said, Chrisitan Bale was excellent.
I don't think he's capable of being anything else. biggrin

But I'm not sure this is better than Burton's movies.
I love Burton's Batman movies, they're brilliant Burton films. However, I've never considered them to be particularly good Batman films, mainly because they seemed utterly disinterested in Batman himself.

They're so different in their interpretation that I don't feel the need to compare them, which is nice. I means I can watch both entirely separately still. smile

Oh, and Equilibrium was, is, and always will be rather rubbish.

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Posted: Fri, 17th Jun 2005, 9:47am

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Really enjoyed it.

Everyone was class (apart from Katie Holmes who was only ok but thats still surprisingly good for her).

Bale totally rules as always. Michael Caine was even better than I expected. Fantastic.

Bring on the next film. They better have the same cast in the next one (although they can replace Katie if they want with a better and more attractive actress).
Posted: Sat, 18th Jun 2005, 12:39am

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Yeah, the fights were intentional the way they were filmed. Harry from Ain't It Cool News, says this:

"The way Nolan shoots Batman… he doesn’t pull back to show you how Batman does his tricks and torments. Instead he focuses on misdirection, quickness, ferocity and the end result. No longer will you see clumsy half-assed martial arts routines… and one point early in Wayne’s training Liam Neeson, before kicking Bruce’s ass says… “This isn’t a Dance,” when Wayne tries his learnt Kung Fu. Liam’s Ducard takes him down and begins to kick the shit out of him. It’s scary, fierce and unforgiving. And that’s exactly who and what Batman becomes. This isn’t fancy Fred Astaire neatly choreographed fights… This is brutal, tight and mean. Just incredible."

I certainly felt they were not supposed to be showy in the hollywood sense, i.e. Matrix. It made sense that it should be purposeful rather than purely for show.

Adam.
Posted: Sat, 18th Jun 2005, 3:18am

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I had extremely high hopes for this movie, and all of them were fufilled.

This movie rocked me hard.
Posted: Sat, 18th Jun 2005, 4:40am

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Best movie of the year.

Everything about it was amazing. Only wish they'd pull back some of the fighting to a medium shots, and slow down the cuts... at some points i was really confused. the STORY is what made this film, and the development in Bruce Wayne.

Fabulous movie.
Posted: Sat, 18th Jun 2005, 5:07am

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friggin' sweet
what more do i need to say



word... im out
Posted: Sat, 18th Jun 2005, 11:33am

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I thought it was ok, but my fears where proven right, unfortunately.

It had some great moments and a fantastic cast. Their all great in their roles and no one is trying to steal the others performance.

There were a couple of things that stopped me from finding the film more then just ok though.



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1) I thought the script had some very odd parts. I couldn't understand, why Rha's would even want to train Bruce Wayne, after his father has destroyed his previous plans of destroying Gotham. And I thought the way Thomas Wayne was portrayed as the "perfect being" was pretty cheesy. Especially his dying line "it's okay".
The fact that the film felt very real made a lot of things appear too corny. I have no problem with corny stuff, as everyone knows, if the whole feel matches to that. In Batman begins, it didn't. Parts felt very real, parts felt like placative comic book psychology, wich didn't go together for me very well.

2) I didn't like Gotham City. It didn't look like a city someone would call "gotham". I just didn't like the artdesign there. Not only because I'm a Burton fan, but I simply think his design was far above. Nolan managed to make many things like believable, but in the same breath, that was what made it unbelievable for me.

3) I don't like that confusing MTV style editing and camera shaking action style. I don't enjoy not seeing who's kicking who's ass. And I mostly didn't. I couldn't figure out what happened in most of the action sequences, I just heard that someone's getting hit. Maybe "hey man, thats exactly what Batman is you know like dark and fast and confusing and all omg" but I just don't enjoy watching something I can't figure out.
I missed shot's that took their time. Wich was what I loved about the LotR films. You had time to look at the beauty of things. Here, I simply didn't. This always feels to me like "Bale can't really fight, so let's not show that then". The editing and camera pace of the film was far to quick for my taste.

4) I didn't like the score. Elfman wipes the floor with that unimaginative piece of music used in the film.


All in all, it was an enjoyable flick. Personally I just have to say, I still miss the old Batman.
Posted: Sat, 18th Jun 2005, 1:21pm

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"I couldn't understand, why Rha's would even want to train Bruce Wayne, after his father has destroyed his previous plans of destroying Gotham."

Have you never seen Star Wars? smile

"This always feels to me like 'Bale can't really fight, so let's not show that then'."

Where do people keep getting this about Bale? Has no-one seen Equilibrium??? He seems to look alright there. And practically ANYONE in the industry can be tought. I doubt they'd skimp on that aspect. Does no-one remember Jason-Scott Lee taking the role as Bruce Lee in Dragon? An actor tought how to make the moves of a great man.


You know, I still like some of the old Burton films. But really, I'm not as bothered that they're in the past. That's where they are and I'm glad to forge forward with something different. I'm glad that Nolan's Batman CAN be different. And to be honest, this is what Batman was always about for me. His hiding in the shadows, doing some detective work, the story's darkness, etc. I'm glad WB actually tried this film out.

You can't hold films of the past over the heads of the new ones. They're there to be appreciated alongside the new, but not to mock the new! Comparisons of Gone with the wind against anything made these days would be a little unfair! razz

Adam.
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I didn't say Bale can't fight. What I said was, that this weird/fast cut/shakey/don't show too much style gives me the feel as if the actor can't fight and they want to hide it.
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4) I didn't like the score. Elfman wipes the floor with that unimaginative piece of music used in the film.
Well, I'm going to have to totally disagree with you here Sollthar. While I felt the Hans Zimmer stuff was alittle unmemorable, I absolutley adore James Newton Howard's cues. He and Thomas Newman are my favorite composers. For some reason I always feel the movie more with their scores.

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Posted: Sun, 19th Jun 2005, 3:47am

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Sollthar wrote:

I didn't say Bale can't fight. What I said was, that this weird/fast cut/shakey/don't show too much style gives me the feel as if the actor can't fight and they want to hide it.
What you're speaking was done a couple of times in the Bourne Identity, then the audience liked it, so it was clearly overaccentuated in 'Supremacy'. The fight scenes were cool, but the continuous cut from close-up to close-up made me queasy, and unable to tell what what going on. There's a line you've got to cross between 'believable' and 'watchable'- this meaning that though some slow-mo wide shot might not convey something realistically, it serves the viewer better, because then they know what is going on. If director's keep trying to make stuff more and more realistic, the overall meaning is eventualliy gonna get lost.

That being said- I've been stuck out in Nowheresville, AR for a while, with no theatres around; so I plan on seing 'Begins' tomorrow.

Sounds like a good flick to me. wink
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Sollthar wrote:

It had some great moments and a fantastic cast. Their all great in their roles and no one is trying to steal the others performance.
The cast really excited me - I hope they get to do a Batman 2 and elaborate on the good stuff they've established here.

The fact that the film felt very real made a lot of things appear too corny. I have no problem with corny stuff, as everyone knows, if the whole feel matches to that. In Batman begins, it didn't. Parts felt very real, parts felt like placative comic book psychology, wich didn't go together for me very well.
I agree on this somewhat. I'd have liked to have seen it a little more consistently real - Bale's Batman voice was a bit OTT for my liking, and some of the 'fear visions' were a little hokey.

However, I think a lot of my grumbles in that area might disappear on 2nd viewing. The whole film had been built up to be 100% realistic, which it isn't really going for. It's still meant to be mythic and epic and have a comic book sensibility. The realism comes in the approach to the Bruce Wayne character. So I think on a second viewing, knowing what it's trying to do, I might like it more.

I didn't like Gotham City. It didn't look like a city someone would call "gotham". I just didn't like the artdesign there. Not only because I'm a Burton fan, but I simply think his design was far above. Nolan managed to make many things like believable, but in the same breath, that was what made it unbelievable for me.
I liked Gotham, for the most part. I like the way it was varied and split into different areas depending on your class and wealth. The monorail was great (and the difference between when it was first built and when we see it again 20 years later was nice). The high-rise Wayne Towers area was ok but nothing special.

However, what I LOVED were the Narrows, and the whole island around Arkham Asylum. I loved everything about the design of that place. I get the feeling that Gotham will become more like 'traditional' Gotham now that Batman is here...what with the Narrows being infested with crazed people - at the end of the film Gotham is possibly worse off than it was before Batman appeared.

4) I didn't like the score. Elfman wipes the floor with that unimaginative piece of music used in the film.
Agreed completely. Some of the more atmospheric pieces were fine, but the action seemed to be just thumping drums - typical Hans Zimmer stuff. All he ever seems to do these days is sub-par versions of his Gladiator score.

You can't beat the Elfman Batman score, though, because it's an all-time classic. It's the same problem the new Superman film is going to have - how on earth do you do the music, after John Williams' masterpiece?

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Posted: Sun, 19th Jun 2005, 12:13pm

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It's the same problem the new Superman film is going to have - how on earth do you do the music, after John Williams' masterpiece?
Yeah! Wondered about that myself. Not sure how it would feel to see a superman title and not having Williams brilliant theme sounding through the speakers...

I guess that's a real problem trying to start something new, if you have to deal with certain things that were just absolutely memorable.

Like with Terminator 3. I still don't get why they never used the Terminator Theme...

I absolutley adore James Newton Howard's cues
JN Howard is brilliant! Totally agreed.
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I saw it yesterday and it had to be the best film seen in a while.

When i went i thought it was just gonna be a feeble attempt to get more money from the franchise but i was completly wrong.
You cant compare burtons batman to nolans. Burtons batman was a step forward at the time as it represented the movie was shot in the style of a comic something brand new at the time but common nowadays (sin city, the hulk) once burton stopped doing the films they just got worse and crashed and burned.

Spoliers

The fighting scenes i thought showed bruces progession of his fighting skills, during the fighing in the prision it was very confusing because it was shot too close to the actors. later fight scenes were shot further back and made it more understandable and showing bruce is gaining power.

Elfman rules! the soundtrack was a bit too action style for me

I loved gotham, is it cg? cos if it is its amazing! i think it might be a bit of both

I want the tumbler batmobile! (think its called that) it rule best batmobile! when i first saw it i thought hows that gonna drive round gotham? but it sort of didn't drive! biggrin

I liked it so much i might even write a letter to nolan saying how good it was do you think he'd be flatered or annoy? or am i just sad?
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A lot of you wrote:

Your didn't like the fighting? What would you rather have?! The Matrix!!?!?!!?1
...And spoilers are a given.


There are other way to do a fight than the ways in Batman and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Just because they need to chill out in their Batman fight camerawork doesn't mean they need to immitate The Matrix.

But permit me to explain my thoughts on the fighting.

Close-up, blurry fighting is fine for a fast brawl. It makes the fighting seem painful. When Batman takes out all the goons at the dock, it works just fine. However, at the end, in the train, when Batman and Al Guhl (or whatever) face off in the train, I'm thinking to myself, "Oh man, Showdown!" But then what do they proceed to do? Instead of showcasing each opponent's skill in the fight, they treat me to a minute-and-a-half blur fest. What's the point? Yeah, for the first ten seconds it's brutal and painful, but when you're actually going to take the time to have a true fight, your fight should tell a story. Just watching blurry dark colors on the screen and hearing punching noises for an extended period of time does nothing. These two guys are in a contest of skill, but Nolan shows none of it. The final gunfight in Equilibrium is an example of how editing and camera work can make unskilled fighters look skillful, and yet keep the fight looking real and brutal without losing the audience. Understand my point of view now?


And the second point I had regarding villains:

The Villain-Hero clash is the whole point of hero movies! It doesn't matter if they're "beginning". There were three villains in this movie, and that was before Batman even existed. The problem wasn't lack of villains, it was that the villains were treated improperly. Scarecrow had little screen time. The mob boss seemed pointless, and Al Guhl isn't even in the movie for about an hour. Where's the charisma of the Joker or the style of the Penguin? The Scarecrow had all that going for him, but he was completely underplayed.

Yeah.

...And the city's not the villain.
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Sollthar wrote:

Like with Terminator 3. I still don't get why they never used the Terminator Theme...
Best theme eva' mah friend. biggrin

Da na na NAH NAH NAH

Da na na NAAAAAH NAAAAAAH NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH-NAH!

They should've used the score from bat follies. biggrin
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Sorry Sidewinder, but when I go to see a superhero film, it's not to see the good guy beat the bad guy. That's the most boring part to me! My feeling is that I go to see the story unfold and how things go from point a to the final point z.

And I still maintain what others say about this particular film. It's not about the big-bad villains. It's about how Batman is born into Wayne's world (Excellent! Party on!!) in Gotham. And how the city is something worth saving to Bruce, like what his father tried to do before him. Rather than it just being a backdrop like it was in ALL the other Batman films. At least Burton did try and incorporate elements of Gotham into the story, but this latest film really made me appreciate their little world.

Villain characters treated improperly? My thoughts are this... the mob boss was there to be dethroned by Batman's "beginning." A device, if you will. To show that in one fell swoop, he could begin to help the city and demonstrate that the Batman will not stand by while these criminals runaround. Their city was so far in that the mob boss was hard to reach. The Batman did it because he's, as he says, an uncorruptable figure.
Scarecrow was an interesting one because he was obviously just a bloke with a scheme and toxin. And because of Bats spraying the toxin at him - in the end, he began to feel the scarecrow was his true identity. And he'll probably turn up at some point down the line as a fully formed villain, I guess. But he was part of Al Ghul's plan, as was the mob boss.
And of course, Al Ghul was a link to Wayne's fearful beginning into Batman and his further understanding of fear. And by Bruce leaving Al Ghul to live, he practically creates Gotham's further suffering. Is Bruce his own worse enemy??

Just my thoughts. Surprisingly, I find the film fascinating. And I never expected to write that blurb!

Adam. confused

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adamlightandmagic wrote:

Sorry Sidewinder, but when I go to see a superhero film, it's not to see the good guy beat the bad guy. That's the most boring part to me! My feeling is that I go to see the story unfold and how things go from point a to the final point z.

And I still maintain what others say about this particular film. It's not about the big-bad villains. It's about how Batman is born into Wayne's world (Excellent! Party on!!) in Gotham. And how the city is something worth saving to Bruce, like what his father tried to do before him. Rather than it just being a backdrop like it was in ALL the other Batman films. At least Burton did try and incorporate elements of Gotham into the story, but this latest film really made me appreciate their little world.

Villain characters treated improperly? My thoughts are this... the mob boss was there to be dethroned by Batman's "beginning." A device, if you will. To show that in one fell swoop, he could begin to help the city and demonstrate that the Batman will not stand by while these criminals runaround. Their city was so far in that the mob boss was hard to reach. The Batman did it because he's, as he says, an uncorruptable figure.
Scarecrow was an interesting one because he was obviously just a bloke with a scheme and toxin. And because of Bats spraying the toxin at him - in the end, he began to feel the scarecrow was his true identity. And he'll probably turn up at some point down the line as a fully formed villain, I guess. But he was part of Al Ghul's plan, as was the mob boss.
And of course, Al Ghul was a link to Wayne's fearful beginning into Batman and his further understanding of fear. And by Bruce leaving Al Ghul to live, he practically creates Gotham's further suffering. Is Bruce his own worse enemy??

Just my thoughts. Surprisingly, I find the film fascinating. And I never expected to write that blurb!

Adam. confused
Might wanna put a spoiler warning on there for those of us who *AHEM* haven't seen the movie yet. Hasn't come out yet here in hill billy cinema.
Posted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005, 12:53am

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Sorry, Atom. But then, Sidewinder did say that spoilers were a given. For this thread anyway.

But I'll go edit my posts to include a spoiler warning.

Peace,
Adam.
Posted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005, 9:24am

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Might wanna put a spoiler warning on there for those of us who *AHEM* haven't seen the movie yet. Hasn't come out yet here in hill billy cinema.
If you haven't seen the movie yet, it might be sensible to avoid a topic called 'Batman Begins'. Maybe. I'm just guessing here. smile
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Tarn wrote:

Might wanna put a spoiler warning on there for those of us who *AHEM* haven't seen the movie yet. Hasn't come out yet here in hill billy cinema.
If you haven't seen the movie yet, it might be sensible to avoid a topic called 'Batman Begins'. Maybe. I'm just guessing here. smile
True dat, Tarn.

I personally thought the movie was brilliantly told, and flawlessly crafted, but does not fit within the caliber of other movies such as LOTR or Spiderman 2, as they are far too different to be compared. My fave Batman flick, if not equal with "The Batman". I had to smirk at the DC Comics logo in the beggining, because it made it all the more obvious that they havent had ANY movies lately, as no one has EVER seen DC intro title. I even heard some teen in the back row yell "MARVEL RIP! DC SUCKS! SPIDERMAN IS BETTER!"

Me and my friends laughed a bit.

On the whole, though, I'd say this film ranks high with the other Supe films I've seen. I believe I'm one of the only people to ever appreciate Daredevil, but whatever. These are my Top Ten Supes:

1.)X2
2.)Spiderman 2
3.)Batman Begins (Reeeeel close to second, but you gotta love Spidey)
4.)X-Men
5.)Spiderman
6.)The Batman
7.)Superman (cheeeeeeeeeeesy but cool)
8.)Daredevil
9.) LXG
10.)Batman Forever (c'mon, you KNOW you loved it)


Like I'd even think about putting HULK up there........
Posted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005, 8:11pm

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My fav comic to film

(1) batman begins
(2) sin city
(3) batman returns
(4) Spiderman 2
(5) Superman (had to like it!)

soz x men weren't on ther but i didnt really like either one
Posted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005, 8:32pm

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On the whole, though, I'd say this film ranks high with the other Supe films I've seen. I believe I'm one of the only people to ever appreciate Daredevil, but whatever
lol

http://maddox.xmission.com/dare_devil.html

It's funny cos it's so true...
Posted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2005, 3:15am

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Well I just got back from seeing it tonight and I must say that I loved the film. I thought it was brilliantly done and I loved the casting.

As for the fighting I think it was done the absolutely correct way. The brutal and somewhat blind shots portrayed a sense of fear, which is the main "villian" in this movie.

Great Film.