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The Last Days

Posted: Mon, 11th Jul 2005, 2:36pm

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Rating: +2

The year is 1945. The German Army has just announced their formal surrender, bringing the long and brutal Second World War in Europe to a close. Allied forces are shifting focus from fighting to occupying, with a large portion of manpower dedicated to processing the newly surrendered German Army. An airborne unit is ordered to a nearby waystation to help with the processing. Along the way, they cross paths with a broken Werhmacht unit that's been cut off for days and do not know the war is officially over. Without translators in either group, they must overcome the language barrier before it's too late.

I know the file size is huge but I tried to find a happy medium. I know this may exclude some people due to their connection so I am breaking the movie into several parts for easier downloading.

On a personal note, this is my writing, producing and directorial debut. I have boundless passion for the subject matter and I hope it shows. Oh yeah - apologies in advance to our native German friends at FXhome for obliterating your language. We really did try to get it as accurate as possible.


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Posted: Mon, 11th Jul 2005, 2:48pm

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Superb. This is the first FXhome movie in a long time (possibly the first ever?) to move me emotionally. This is a brilliant effort in just about every department.

If I had to criticise, it would be that the editing confused me in a couple of places, particularly when the German squad made their first appearance. Geographically I was a little confused as to where they were in relation to each other, and initially thought that one was tracking the other.

Other than that, I loved it. For a long movie to hold my attention so well is a testament to its quality, particularly in the acting department which was so vital in the first half.
Posted: Mon, 11th Jul 2005, 3:01pm

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Thank you Tarn. I think evoking emotion is the highest compliment and as a filmmaker that means I've done my job.

About the first German scene - I wanted to disorient the audience and make it appear as if the two sides were about to meet up. A tease. I appreciate the comments and criticism.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 12:37am

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One of the best movies on this site hands down. Great job man. The cast and acting was very very well done. Your whole crew should be proud of this movie. 5/5

p.s. The color at the beginning and end was amazing.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 12:40am

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Rating: +1

I think I disagree with you tarn. Because of the dialogue this movie didn't move me that much. WHy? I found most of the time when they were talking frustrating to listen to. It seemed like there was a 5 second pause between each sentence. Kinda Akward. And Because of this I found most of the part's of them sitting there with a lack of a better word, boring. And when they engaged the germans they didn't seem to very suprised. I'd be OMG WTF!!!! The friggin wars over!!!! The whole battle with the germans just didn't seem intense. It seemed slow to me. This movie didn't pull it for me. Sorry. Good job on the color Correction though. I like the black and white of this film. Though I prefer WW2 movie to have drained colors and high contrast but the B/W correction worked for this film. Good job 3 for me.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 1:54am

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I can't seem to play the movie. Do I need to have a MAC?
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 1:55am

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Wow, I forgot about this movie. Can't wait to watch, downloading now.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 3:17am

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cuz im lazy, i think you should make a compressed low quality version for download. wont take as long
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 1:51pm

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CX3 - Thank you for the kind words. It means a lot coming from someone as talented as yourself. I am very proud of my crew. They worked thier tails off in less than ideal conditions and gave every ounce of themselves.
Thanks again.

Big Kahuna - Download the latest Quicktime player and that should solve the problem.

Justin - I may come out with a low res version but I put so much into this project I really do not want to present it in a crapped out low res version. We'll see.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 8:58pm

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Thanks. All I had to do was get Quicktime 7 downloaded. I can't wait to watch it now!
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 9:56pm

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Very good job...great acting at the end. the camera work was very good, and was never distracting. the sound was good, but seemed to be a little muffled at some points throughout. good job with the muzzle flashes. all together very good...5/5
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 10:01pm

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factoryman - You're right about the sound - it could've have been better at some points. Thanks for the praise.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2005, 11:59pm

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haha, im not trying to be mean from what i said, im just sayin, ya know, cuz alot of people are lazy and dont feel like waiting

but i did it, its a sweet movie man.

great job 5/5
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 12:15am

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I hear ya. I'm pretty lazy myself : ) Thanks Justin.
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 10:29am

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Superb. This is the first FXhome movie in a long time (possibly the first ever?) to move me emotionally. This is a brilliant effort in just about every department.
I agree, but don't you remember MMMProd's "Today we just change the channel," that was quite moving too.
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 12:09pm

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That was completely worth the download. :-) I'm far from any kind of authority/expert, but for what it's worth and I hope you take this as some small compliment, this is the first fxhome movie that I've rated 5 stars. :-)
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 1:55pm

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Hendo - I take that as a huge compliment. Thanks : )
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 4:03pm

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Absolutely brilliant, eventhough the german pronouciation wasn't too terrific, great effort and excellent acting. This was very moving and breathtaking.
At some stages it was a little long, and I was just praying to god that there is going to be some action, but it all filled out the time very cleverly. A unique masterpiece.

All in all, it all came out very nicely. Great job guys, keep up the great work !!!

5/5 from me (never given this before I think smile this means this must be very good wink )

cheers,
-devil.
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 5:24pm

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Devilskater - Thank you for your comments. I know the German could have been better but we were under a time crunch and the guys did the best they could. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks again.
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 5:41pm

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Its MY PLEASURE SIR !

Just out of curiosity...and I think this would interest other fxhomers...HOW MUCH TIME and Money did you invest in this movie...and where did you get the equipment and uniforms from ?

THX ALOT FOR THE GREAT MOVIE !!!

Cheers,
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Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 6:00pm

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This was great! The only thing I could complain about, as you mentioned yourself, is when the actors are speaking german. Some of them are really crappy (can't blame them though, it's not easy to read your lines in a different language when you're not used to the grammars and pronounciation, especially when the languages aren't really related to eachother. I'm swedish, and german is pretty close to the swedish language, so I have it easier razz), but some of them are pretty good at it too (I'm mainly thinking about the german officer who has a lot of lines that he reads really well, he ought to get some kind of reward for his acting smile), but I still think it's better than letting the germans talk english. And other than that, I can't find much to complain about. The acting was great, I really like the camerawork, the effects varied (is that the word?) between decent and good, but overall the film was great, so I'll give it 5/5! It would be great to see more of your work if you plan to continue filming in the future!



Edit: *SPOILER?* I also gotta say that the scene where Moose avenges Squeek is one of my favorites, probably the best scene I've ever seen in an amateur film (can you call this an amateur film?). Keep up the good work!

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Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 6:02pm

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wow, only 4 freaking votes? this is like the best movie on FX? come on guys.

haha.

sorry, i just think it deserves better.

lol love ya ferral, your movies kick.

justin jones was here, then he left.
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 6:08pm

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Um, it has 11 votes actually:

http://fxhome.com/cinema/viewvote.php?mid=1873
Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 6:40pm

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Rating: +1/-2

HAHA....only ssj is of different oppinion....ohh the jealousy that comes in some people...

I have noticed this on many occasions...where some unknown people rate a movie so low, so that the vote average drastically reduces... I dont really think they undestand why there are votes...it seems to me that they find it funny, that a movies rate average decreases and so, doesnt look worth while to watch...

So immatuer !

Cheers,
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Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2005, 7:11pm

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Devilskater - I spent about two years on this project - one year alone in post (Was working two full time jobs at the time). I spent about 10 grand (mostly on credit cards, which I'm still trying to pay off). I started buying props and costumes about 7 months before shooting. The US uniforms and web gear are authentic reproductions from What Price Glory out of California. The German uniforms came mostly from a local guy. I got a curio and relic license just so I could by those rifles. I wore out the internet buying stuff. It was a lot of fun : ) Thanks again.

TiCy - Yeah, I know. Most all those guys have never spoken a word of German. It was a lot to ask of them. I will make more movies and one day I hope to do it for a living. That scene is my favorite too - it's powerful. Thanks for the praise.

Justin - haha, I love you too man.
Posted: Thu, 14th Jul 2005, 2:20am

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At first I was a little weary of the black and white, but started to like it. I'm glad that you took a chance and didn't use the contrast effect that most people use for this era of movie. Great Job. Is Moose ok? He was my favorite.
Posted: Thu, 14th Jul 2005, 1:32pm

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Thanks Big Kahuna and yes, moose is ok : )
Posted: Thu, 14th Jul 2005, 8:19pm

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Ok good. I was worried there for a second, I guess he just got really tired and went nappy poo in sleepy land.
Posted: Fri, 15th Jul 2005, 2:57am

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devilskater wrote:

HAHA....only ssj is of different oppinion....ohh the jealousy that comes in some people...

I have noticed this on many occasions...where some unknown people rate a movie so low, so that the vote average drastically reduces... I dont really think they undestand why there are votes...it seems to me that they find it funny, that a movies rate average decreases and so, doesnt look worth while to watch...

So immatuer !

Cheers,
devilskater
I think that your Immatuer for thinking that the only reason why i rated it low was to be funny. I Rate movies on how much I enjoyed them. I found that this movie was quite boring. It Had an awesome story. But the editing wasn't that great. LIke I said before, there was like 5 second pauses in between each person talking. I found that greatly distracting and annoying. I also rate movies on its art.(shut up I can't think of a better word) By art I mean how the cinematography and score and everything else that goes into the movie relates to the story. Ex. When there is intense part where everybody is shooting. The camera should be shaking so the audience feels nervous and that they are there with the soldiers. I didn't find this movie to have any intragate camera angles at all. I'm not jealous of this movie at all. You must be ignorant to think that when somone disagree's it means they are jealous. I have nothing to be jealous about, I don't submit movies on fxhome. I stand by my 3/5. I think that, is what this movie deserves. Sorry but thats the truth.
Posted: Fri, 15th Jul 2005, 6:03am

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I think for someones first movie, he did a pretty dain good job. Thumbs up again.
Posted: Fri, 15th Jul 2005, 10:46pm

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well sorry to say guys but i agree with ssj john (not just becasue we are friends) but the acting was not very good, some of the dialoge was ehhh, and the movie took like 30 minutes to get going, thier was to much fluf of TRYing to get you to feel for the charecters. and half of the scene's could have been cut as out takes.
Good stuff about it:
Ok I did like the technical stuff, like color correction, and sounds and music. and i loved how it ended and the other side of the story of the Natzi's.
so I am going to agree with ssj john and give it a 3. sorry but this movie did not pull me in.
Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005, 5:42am

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ferrals da man.

since im nice does that mean i can have force, lol jk.

but still ferrals da man. not THE man. da man.
Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005, 2:23am

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Incredible. Superb. Fabulous. Amazing. You actually had me in tears. 5/5 & +1
Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005, 11:22am

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One of the best short features Ive seen in a long time! As the writer/director of a 45 minute long film which took two years to complete I understand the painstaking labour of love which is required to bring such a project to life. I loved the way this film began as a slow character drama and evolved into a highly charged action thriller, all the while staying true to itself and true to the subject. I love the period look of the peice, the Kubric-like cinematography and the old-hollywood black and white, linked beautifully by the haunting orchestral score. I'd be very interested in seeing more films from this company in the future. A few criticisms, but too small to bother mentioning (plus, I'm sure you know better than anyone the subtle areas in which the film is lacking) and will learn for next time. Ten-out-of-ten.
Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005, 2:09pm

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That was utterly amazing. Great plot, great production, great execution. That was no joke the best film i have ever seen (Off of Fx of coarse smile )
You get a 5/5 from me man, and of coarse, your #1 on the Top Ten.
Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005, 2:49pm

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sheesh, were did you get all the uniforms and rifles? eek there real nice!
Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005, 10:07pm

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TimmyD - Thanks man.

DannyAU - Thank you for the insightful and graciuos post. I really do appreciate the encouragement and support.

Alexcull - Thanks. I got the german uniforms from a local guy and the US uniforms are reproductions out of California. I obtained a curio and relic license so I could buy authentic rifles. Mostly internet shopping : )

Thanks to all of you again.
Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005, 10:19pm

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I guess your locations just a bit lucky, but thanks for the info anyway. A near by magazine sells a bunch of German Army Stuff, but 2 Grand for a Uniform is a bit out of the question for me
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 2:40am

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Hey Ferral, have you had any interest from Hollywood studios or producers in the wake of The Last Day?
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 2:57am

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Wow, I was really taken back by this film. Your visuals were great, I really appreciate the time and thought that was put into the different camera angles and pans throughout the story. I think every dime you put into wardrobe was very well spent and did an excellent job in illustrating the era and core element of the story.

While some might say the movie was slow at points, I thought the character development was really good. It takes time to build bonds between people and I don't think the movie would have had the same impact had the squad simply been thrown into a gunfight.

Very moving, the last performance between Matt Carter and Berry Battles in the small make-shift trench was stellar. Kudos to the soundtrack composer and the team involved in the production of the movie. Great story, great delivery. I really enjoyed this one!

5/5
Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2005, 12:10pm

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ssj john wrote:


I think that your Immatuer for thinking that the only reason why i rated it low was to be funny.
OK, I dont necessarily want to make this a big fight. It was a general statement...not ONLY reflecting onto ssj's rating...

It has just accured to me, that many people in this forum do have the habbit of rating movies low, because its fun.

I am sorry ssj. didnt mean to upset you man...I know..and I think everybody else thinks this way, that you didnt do it intentially...it's ur oppinion and we all respect that.

just as I mentioned before, some people in this community do do this...


Cheers,
sorry again mate
ur devilskater
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THis was pretty hard core. The script was good, although at times the acting was not all perfect, there were some cheezy lines such as...
Shaun - I don't wanna die sarge, I don't wanna Die!
Sarge - You are not going to die, Shaun, you are not going to die!
But all that aside it was good, for the most part your cinimatagraphy was cool. Your death scenes were also pretty good. I enjoyed the story line very much. ALhtough i might now watch the whole movie again, I might fast forward to the fighting scene and just watch that, that was well done.
Only problem with the movie that I really had is that German officer guy didn't die. Some times I think its good to leave people with the message of like good prevails evil, and I felt that you portrayed the german soldiers except for the one, as just ordinary people who just caught up in the war because thier country told them to fight, and their goal was not to kill, just because they wanted to, but to kill to survive, but the other seemed to kill because thier was something wrong with him, so I was hoping the german squad would have shot him at the end or something, but it didn't happen, so oh well.
But it was a good movie.smile
Posted: Thu, 21st Jul 2005, 3:14pm

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Travis - I have the film entered in a local film festival. I won't know until next monthe if it makes it in or not but I'll keep you guys updated.

Zack - Thank you for the great review. I really wanted the wardrobe to look as authentic as possible and I think we got pretty dang close. I know more impatient people want to skip right to the action but I do believe that without character development you just have another shallow piece of crap. Thanks again.

Gnome - I appreciate the praise.
Posted: Thu, 21st Jul 2005, 7:42pm

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Finally a movie above the Art of the sabre, that's already one reason to like it.
(allthough interestingly, I think it's very similar, except it has no sabers in it) biggrin

Kudos to your production values! Your dedication for the matter did show a lot. Before I go on, that's definately worth a 5 - even though it did have a few letdowns, but even so, it's high production values make it far above the average fxhome movie. smile


The look of the film is very good, with a few shots that were even excellent. The grading was very well done and gave it a familiar WW2 look (I must admit, I was a bit disappointed to see the shine-plugin used. While everything else seemed to be just how it should be, the shine thing always has a "quick made whoa that looks cool" touch to me).

The sound was very good. The voices were clear, loud enough and sounded just how it's supposed to be. The ambience sounddesign was good, allthough could have used a bit more tweaking, as you could hear cuts sometimes. But I know how difficult that is.

The Music was well composed and had some intriguing parts, as well as some moments where it depended too much on the thrills-violins for too long. I did totally love the percussion elements though. These ruled!

The acting was good to very good. Definately highest standards here on fxhome, can't recall a film with acting on this level. The casting was well done, the actors really matched their filmcharacters. Compliments here again!

The german. Heh... well. That was what spoiled a lot of the emotional drama for me. I had to read the english subtitles to figure out what was said mostly. smile
Not only because of the accents, but also because some sentences just didn't make any sense and/or you had expressions no one would say. Did you have a native speaker on that? I doubt it. That was a shame. Would have been great if you had asked a native speaker to translate it and maybe even record the lines for you and your actors to work with (I know I would have, if I had been asked). But thats something no one's going to notice who isn't swiss, austrian or german. smile

The script is good. The characters are clearly worked out, even those with little screen time, the drama is worked out nicely and the dialoges were almost all very good.
The one thing that I'd think would be worth looking into is the scene length. You need time to introduce characters, that's true. But what made the film quite slow paced is the fact you took that time in to little scenes - for my taste.
It would have helped a lot to have more smaller scenes, because that automatically helps the pacing. (like the tent scene at the beginning, that was almost 5 minutes long without a change of context or location).
So as a rule, better make 10 scenes of 2 minutes, then 2 scenes of 10 minutes - if you know what I mean.


As a whole, it's mainly the high production values that make this one stand out. The combination of all solid elements make this movie.


Personally. I can't wait to see your next film!
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man, if that is coming from sollthat dude, this must be friggen good !!!
and 10 grand ? jesh, respect there...putting so much effort and love into a project and theme of this kind makes a true and dedicated director !

Cheers,
devilskater
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Sollthar - As the reigning God of FXhome, you know your praise and criticism mean a lot to me. I do understand what you mean about smaller scenes and will use that advice to good effect in the future.

About the german - For the most part I think we were fairly accurate on the translation (at least we tried really hard to be) but the delivery is what screwed it up. These guys did not have a lot of time to learn the lines. You're right, it could have been handled better but you do what you have to do and you go on. I wish I would've thought about asking you but, well, you will read more about how the German was handled soon.

Oh yes - the shine plugin. It was actually a plugin from boris fx 7. It was lazy I know. You caught me : )

Sound oh sound. Sound is quite a butthole sometimes : ) I just got to a point where I threw my hands in the air and said "that's it!! I've had enough!" : )

There are things I wish I would've done better. But you grow as a filmmaker and those small failures just inspire you to try harder next time.

I really appreciate the comments. Thank you.

Devilskater - you're a good man ; )
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 4:55pm

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While the story is a valiant one, the acting is spot-on, and the camera quality is nice, I found this film incredibly lacking in editing and cinematography, and didn't really enjoy it as much as I maybe should have. I did, however, like the message you were trying to convey, and applaud you for keeping this up without noticeable holes.

3/5
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Atom - Thanks for the comments but please explain "incredibly lacking in editing and cinematography". Incredibly is a strong word. What specifically did you not like about the editing? Keep in mind I had to use some shots simply because I did not have enough coverage - not an excuse just an FYI. There are some shots that I am not pleased with but you work with what you have. As far as shot composition, did you not like the style or the shots in general? Those are vague statements that give no valuable information for improvement. Thanks.
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OK I just finished watching this and I thought it was a great film and really moved me! And atom, lacking in editing and cinematography? This is some of the best cinematography I have seen in this cinema (maybe the best?) And the editing I thought worked out really well. Especially since this is one of the few films shot on minidv that actually utilizes depth of field in some shots. Especially the shots when the Germans are first introduced, their were some very beautiful camera angles and shots there. The only thing I can say to work on would be the gunshot effects, mainly the machine gun effect. The muzzle flashes didn't quite seem right and I'd say to actually not use muzzle flashes next time when its daytime and just use smoke. Also the smoke didnt track properly all the time but that is to be expected with moving shots and digitally tracking as it can be difficult.

Another good part that I might add was the audio was superb! And I disagree with the comment about awkward silence, although there were a few times where there might've been a gap in the conversation, the audio really created a dramatic atmosphere in introducing characters. I really felt sorry for each of the squad members when they were killed. And I'm glad you showed that not all of the German army were monsters.
I can go on and on with complements but ill just leave it at this...5/5, and top of my list!

*EDIT*- Hey ferral I forgot to say good luck at Sidewalk and I hope and am confident that you will win!

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Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 6:58pm

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I'm gonna have to give you a 3/5 for this movie, and here's why:

I agree with atom's statements about the cinematography and editing, save the use of the word 'incredibly'. Shots where someone is not well framed, or are repetitive; such as a couple of times in this movie where people plainly walk from the left side of the screen to the right, and the shot is held until they are gone, seldom make a film entertaining. Rather, to me many of these shots looked as though you could frame a couple of good ones, but you held on them too long because the other shots were mediocre. My harsh opinion of this film is partly because I was expecting something fabulous, due to prior reviews, but IMO this is far from it.

Good editing relies on how well things flow, and, in my opinion, the shots in this movie didn't really flow. For example, about 17:17 into the movie, a guy is handing out something, then he turns around, facing away from his men. Then, at 17:19 it cuts to him facing his men. In my eyes this lack of continuity is sloppy and should never happen in any film.

Good cinematography also relies on how everything flows, for example, you can't have someone run left to right on the screen, then cut to them running from right to left. Even if it made sense on a spacial scale, it doesn't make sense in a movie. You didn't make this certain mistake, but you made ones close to it. At about 17:21 into the movie, it cuts to a well framde shot of a guy saying, "Listen up, this is important." Then, about 2 seconds later, ti cuts to a side view of the people whom he is speaking to looking at him. This would be fine, EXCEPT for you framed the right side of someone's shoulder. Customarily, over-the-shoulder shots are used between two people looking directly at eachother. Were this shoulder framed on one of the people who was directly facing the man speaking, it would've worked, but in this case, it just didn't. Another example of what I didn't like was another over-the-shoulder shot at about 2:42. It lingered there forever, making what was going on...well....boring. Then it cuts to a clean shot of the ground with a paper saying 'VICTORY' hitting it. The editing in this is NOT as tight as it needs to be, and the shot is framed too far away IMO which communicates less importance relating to the paper.

Overall, in this movie, I didn't like alot of things: the visual look, the sound, the editing, the cinematography, the acting, I even thought the music choice could've been a bit better; but, seeing as you've obviously spent time on this and how big of an accomplishment it is, I'll withdraw the 1/5 I was going to give this and grant it a 3. Hopefully my opinion was understood.

Regards, Ben
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I highly disagree with you ben, although there were a few mistakes that you pointed out, it didnt take away from the movie much for me and I still highly enjoyed it. The atmosphere created in this movie was exceptional and one of the few movies that actually stirs up feeling inside of me.

And ben do you really think that this movie deserved a 1/5? I guess everyone deserves their own opinions but did the few mistakes really take away from the film that much for you?
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 7:28pm

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Yes, big mistakes that make many parts of the movie boring take alot away for me. They jsut look unprofessional, and, considering that one whole year was spent editing I'd expect something MUCH tighter. This movie just didn't have any special angles, and the editing was really lagging, IMO, so I just plain didn't like it. Yes, I think it deserves a 1/5, but seeing how much time was spent on it, I felt it would be rude to give it such a considerably low rating; hence, I voted a 3.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 7:54pm

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Sk8 - Thanks for the kind words man and thanks for the help.

Ben - This is NOT a professional film. Never said it was. And I never said I am the end all to editing or cinematography - I'm learning as most everyone is on this site. I don't want to get in a pissing match but the year I spent working on this also included 2 full time jobs and me taking long breaks from it.

I know there are a lot of mistakes in there better than anyone. No, not everything turned out as I would have liked it but considering, I am extremely proud of it. If you have never tried to do something on this massive of a scale with a skeleton crew - I just don't think you would understand.

Thanks for your comments and taking the time to watch it.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 8:39pm

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ferral wrote:

Ben - This is NOT a professional film. Never said it was. And I never said I am the end all to editing or cinematography - I'm learning as most everyone is on this site. I don't want to get in a pissing match but the year I spent working on this also included 2 full time jobs and me taking long breaks from it.
I completely understand this, I'm just saying, even if the time wasn't spent wholly editing, it still gives you a fresh eye each time you watch it, due to the large span over which it was edited; and with a fresh eye I think you should've been able to make it tighter. Like I said, I completely undertand what you're saying, but maybe you can understand what I'm saying. And I understand that this is not a professional film, but, considering the budget, I expected something a little bit MORE professional than what was presented. When making a film, I believe that you should always do things to the best of your ability, and, seeing the great editing in your Punisher film, I don't think this was. The line between professional and amateur, IMO is defined by one of two things- budget or just how GOOD the film is. mmmprod doens't spend alot on his films, but I consider them some of the most professional films on this site. The budget for your fil,m in contrast with the average budget of around 0-100 dollars for every other film on this site would in my opinion, classify it as a professional undertaking.

ferral wrote:

If you have never tried to do something on this massive of a scale with a skeleton crew - I just don't think you would understand.
I have in fact, done so, and I do understand. I get what you're saying, I just think this could've been better.

Thanks for your comments and taking the time to watch it.[/quote]
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 9:01pm

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I get what you're saying but also understand, the money was spent trying to make the film as authentic as feasibly possible. And that means expensive props and wardrobe. WWII era is not cheap.

No one got paid. I sometimes had one other person helping me and at the most, two. Sometimes it was just me. For all intents and purposes I was the crew.

If you must classify then classify this as a passionate undertaking.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 9:04pm

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Okay, ferral, I completely get what you're saying, but all I'm trying to say is that I'd rather see worse costumes with better editing and cinematography, rather than how it is now. Maybe that makes sense? (Not trying to sound sarcastic or anything, just trying to clarify)
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005, 9:09pm

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Gotcha. As it is usually said - to each their own : )
Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2005, 2:39am

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great idea, fairly good script and nice production value...but...something about the acting just didn't...sit right with me. Not entirely sure what; something about it just seemed stale and out of place. the "good" german deserves a mention though; he was the most believable of them all.

Noble effort and still impressive in other ways.

4/5
Posted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005, 2:01pm

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Cypher - Glad you liked it for the most part. Thanks for the comments.
Posted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005, 1:45pm

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Great movie. I would watch this again but have no more time to spare here at work. Great story! What type of cameras were used for filming?

Keep up the great work. Any other projects in line?

my vote 4/5
Posted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005, 3:47pm

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Thanks mcvideo. We used 2 XL1s and 1 GL2. I've got some ideas I'm sloshing around in the noodle. Thanks again.
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Any other prop's used? lights etc?
What about mic's?
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We used no external lighting. Everything was shot with natural lighting which is why a good portion of the tent scenes look odd. I was so shorthanded for crew that almost all of the audio was recorded via onboard and wireless mics - Sennsheiser (did I spell that right?) Evolution wireless mics. Not the most ideal way to capture audio. Live and learn ; )
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"Ferral" is one of a relatively small group of true "passionate" filmakers on this site.His last film "Punisher" showed his feel for the art of telling a story
through a not so easy to use medium and pulled it off with great success.
This guys determination to get his story across regardless of time and ,by the looks of it, money is a credit to him and his group.
This new film TLD is a shining example of this guys determination to make the audience "feel" about the movie as he does......a most difficult thing to achieve for any filmaker.I think this must be the first film from this cinema (actually there are one or two) that works absolutely on the emotions of its audience.
I will not go into any technical comments cos that would be irrelevent to this movie......."Ferral" has shown again what can be done if you are passionate about your story and determined to overcome all the obstacles that seem to appear on a daily basis when filming.
Goodluck with future films and any competitions you may have it entered in.

5stars

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Posted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005, 11:02am

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I will confess to being someone who as a rule is not a war movies fan, but reading the various comments I felt I had to see what the fuss was about.

Whilst it has not turned me onto the genre, I do believe that for an amatuer film this really rates as high in nearly all areas of production value (albeit the music grated me as a bit "tinny").

However I personally see feedback as not just a back slapping exercise,as I think it's fair to say we know it's good, but feedback should be about a view which may make the filmaker wiser and think of other options for future films (of which there definately should be!), so I will express what I did not like so much...

1. The Punch...The nasty German leader punching a soldier in the stomach. In my opinion very unbelievable. Try watching the various real life Police Video shows on TV, and when they show fight stuff, watch the dynamics of the body actions. For example, the punch - the german officer just leaves his hand out. Why? People have a natural instinct in real life (and whilst I know there is artisitic merit, this film seems all about representing a grim reality), that once they instigate an attack they pull back to see the result of their actions. I appreciate that the charachter may be so arrogant tat he does not expect retaliation, but to hopd the stance and not stand back to gloat over his power didn't fit.

And the person being hit. He doubles over in extreme pain being made windless. If someone is hurt and winded the body either drops to the floor or curls and turns from the danger. At the very least the legs splay out very unsteadily to stabilise the body, yet in the film it just was not believable.

2. When Shaun (?) gets shot. As above, the artistic merit doesn't fit with the reality portrayed. It's a simple understanding of body dynamics that when someone is shot, the effect (certainly with older weaponry) is that it's like getting hit with a hammer (simply watch the real footage of the beach invasions and various history programmes), yet the actor barely flinched. It took away reality for me and instead of making me feel for the moment, I sneered.

3. I'm not sure if this is down to the fact that the costumes were hired/loaned, or the B&W (nice touch) of the film, but for soldires that had been out in the field for so long, they just seemed too "clean". Where was the grit, the torn clothing, the stains?

Anyway, just some minor points of observation. Could I do as good? No. Am I as dedicated to try? No. So I really think what has been accomplished is great, but just offer these in a constructive manner, not intended to offend...

Kev McP
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O'l Dav as always thank you for your kind words. You're an asset to this community.

Kevin - I totally agree with you. The punch was weak and unconvincing. I had to use some shots that I am not really happy with, that being one of them. Again I agree about when sean gets shot and about the uniforms. All those things I agree on and even the composer (Dan Rubio) will tell you that he is not completely satisfied with the music. I think he did a wonderful job but we just ran out of time and he did not get all of the cues exactly like he wanted. Would I change some things? Sure I would. But the missteps I made along the way are going to stick with me and make me smarter for my next outings.

If I learned anything - it's to shoot more B roll : ) Thanks for your honest feedback.
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I'm a huge war film fan. If I ever had a budget like you apparently do, i'd stock up on Garands and Thompsons and fatigues and everything. So why, then, if you are a director with such a passion for this time period, would you rush the little things that make an undertaking of this sort believable? For instance, your SS commander is toting their MG, at most he'd have a Schmeisser, or just his Luger out, but an MG? And when your point man brings the squad to a halt, you can tell they expected it; always remember to coach your actors on being immersed in their scenario, IE, responding realistically to what other actors are doing. Furthermore, about dialogue. Writing good dialogue is no easy task and so for a first time, great job. Just remember as you get out there no one cares how inexperienced you are, they just want entertainment. So a good friend of mine who's a professional screenwriter gives me this tip: always try and write more with less. Say the dialogue out loud to yourself. If you're writing dialogue for a character think about his personality, how would he say that, not the same as the other guy right? Oh, and this bugged me coming from someone who loves this era; would a paratrooper, even when a little drunk, take a swig like that in front of his commanding officer? Petty details I know, but things for you to think about for future endeavours. Anywho criticize my pickiness all you want but I can assure you that none of this came out of my ass.
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I have to admit, I was skeptical going into this movie. I find the WWII formulae of films to be very tired. But that's because they are all pretty much the same. I have to say however that I loved this movie. every inch of it was incredible. The acting was superb, as was the writing, but what mainly stood out to me was the editing. Everything was very fluid, and i never sat there watching this thinking "hmm, I'm watching a movie", but I was captivated throughout.

As most have stated, this was really the first time I felt emotionally attached to the characters. It was hard enough when Sean got shot, but when these characters you have grown to like suddenly start dying left and right, not even giving the viewer a chance to mourn their loss, that works wonderfully. Literally almost shed a tear.

easily worthy of it's high standing point in the cinema, and easily one of the best movies I have ever seen grace fxhome. that said, make more movies.
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Evil - Thanks for the post but let's clarify some things.

1. First off, real Garands are hard to come by and when you do come by them they will run you atleast 1 grand or more for a good one. As much as I would have loved to buy real Garands this was not feasible in the least. The US uniforms are authentic for that year and so is all of the web gear.

2. If I did not have passion for the subject I would have never made this film. Period.

3. The german officer was not an SS officer - just regular Wehrmacht. For me he does symbolize an SS officer but I was unable to obtain SS garb. He was also not toting an MG. I did not have an MG in the movie (of the 34 or 42 varities which is what most people refer to when they say MG). For someone who loves war movies and knows the period I thought you would know that. The big gun is an 8MM Madsen Light Machine Gun, which the German army did use.

4. Blame the waiting for the hand signal on me. Poor direction.

5. Thanks about the dialogue. I tried to cut it down as much as possible.

6. Now about Squeak - I know it wouldn't be appropiate in the strictest of senses but it is the end of the war and there were quite a number of "hecklers" in the army. They are a close knit group and some horseplay would not be out of the question. That is the Squeak character and he would totally do something like that. Sometimes you have to use a little "artistic license" to entertain, even if it may not be 100% right. It is a movie after all : )

Thanks again for the comments.

Waser - You almost made me shed a tear literally. Beautiful review. It's great when your creation makes the audience move emotionally as you hoped it would. And when it doesn't quite hit some of the audience like you hoped - you take the criticism like a man (or woman: ) and learn from it for future efforts.

Thanks.
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blah... it should be higher than that overrated art of saber
great job btw... i still need to finish watching but so far it looks very pro
great acting too
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Well, it's been a long time since I sat back and watched your animated version of Punisher - that really did impress me, so when I saw all the rave reviews and buzz around this piece I downloaded the huge file and got down to the nitty gritty - I watched it.

I have to say, I'm very impressed, you definetely picked a subject that can easily be handled/edited and presented badly - but you pull the strings in the right ways and the production values are very good. What is clear is the lack of budget, but this doesn't work against The Last Days as that's not what its about. Some solid acting, appropriate camera work and obvious tricky sound editing went on in post.

I however thought it did suffer in the lack of colour instead of a nice tint or grading - I imagine this was a choice because lighting wasn't available and to escape this problem, it's nice to go to good old b&w. wink Also, it woulda been nice to see a high shot (crane, jib) or a little more work on the special effects - after your punisher film, I expected this to have some really great muzzle flashes, it didn't.

This piece is professional in so many ways, but very amateur in a few key areas. I guess thats my opinion - not to be taken the wrong way though, it was very good.

It's a long piece, I watched it throughout. And that's saying something. smile
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Damn, I was hoping this would be the one to beat Art of the Saber... this is so much more.
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jetaimaster - Thanks man.

er-no - I think the lack of color also influenced your thinking on the muzzle flashes because I agree they don't quite look right in b&w. And you are right - I should have spent more time on the effects.

I would have loved to have some crane/jib shots but we did not have the equipment or the time. Oh well, maybe next time : )

I appreciate the comments. Thanks.
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I really enjoyed watching this flick. I have been neck deep in work and school and decided to take a break and I download TLDs. I found myself totally impressed and humbled.

To top it off I find these Blokes are literally a hop, skip, and a jump from where I live!

Really awesome and impressivly emotional work here. Toward the end I found myself suprisingly upset by it. This is the first FXhome movie that actually tugged at the ole heart strings a bit. Top notch work indeed.

I hate to compare your work to another indy WWII movie but I found myself reminded of Saints and Soldiers several times (I mean this as a compliment of course). It really shows that with alot of hardwork and dedication one can "get ur done."
My hats off to the production team, cast, and crew. Might this be showing in the sidewalk film festival this year? I did not make it to the last festival so I apologize if it has already been featured there.

Excellent work! Good luck on future projects!
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Very much appreciate the comments Joe. I do have it entered into Sidewalk. I should know soon whether it makes it in.

Saints and Soldiers, huh? I'll have to check that one out.

Nice to see a fellow Alabamian around ; )

Thanks again!
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Rating: +2

Strip away the visual effects and audio (two components that push ANY budget through the roof) and you are left with a brilliantly told story. This is the best work I've seen on this site. With a multi-million dollar budget, there are many who would fall short of what you've done. I'd love to see this backed by a studio and reworked to be feature length.
You've taken a fresh perspective on what is often considered a "tired" genre.
There were some comments made about the dialogue but I found it fairly immersive. Even the best writing when poorly delivered will seem a little weak. I mean no offense to your actors. Like filmmakers, some are naturals and some are not. I honestly can't find any shortcomings that aren't budget related. You've even got a few guys that have genuine acting ability!
This is fantastic work worthy of a closer look by someone who can back you financially. Thanks for the inspiration!
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gurn68 - Thanks so much for the great comments. The chance that TLD gets the interest of some real financial backing is always a hope in the back of my mind. We'll see.

Thanks for the encouragement!
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Well, I am not much of a war movie person, yet after some month of not checking on fxhome I felt drawn to watch TLD. The simplicity of the poster drew me into watching it and I have to say, that time was not wasted.

Since I am not yet so much into film-making myself I can only comment it from a rather outside postion. Couldn't comment much about film-making. I rather stay with commenting what I see.

First of all I think black/white was an excellent choice, whether that choice was made due to lack of light or any other idea I couldn't care less. Actually I think that it gave a personal touch to it all. Portraying all the horrors of war by actual pictures or words as done in TLD by the letter redundantizes the necessity of color in a movie, such as yours. So b/w fitted just perfect in my mind.

Apart from that there are always tiny things that most of the time only distant onlookers realise, meaning those people watching your movie once is it finished. When I watched TLD, I really had to force myself to continue watching it, not because I didn't like it, rather because I really wanted to tell you what a great job had been done on this movie. Yet upon watching it to the end I came across certain things which seemed rather unfitting in the course of the film.

What I thought rather unlikely was the fact that your Hauptmann Fleischer would beat one of his men... lets also say the combination of his actions seemed rather unlikely. Like him looking to the inferior soldiers and then straigthening the uniform of one inferior soldier that he had just rebuked and after that beating him. Well it came across as if Fleischer realized that he was in the minority -> thus the straightening of the uniform, yet then wanted to prove his point by beating the man. Or rather prove his position.
Now, why do I consider Fleischer's reactions rather unlikely. Well, I am sure you will be more than able to argue against my point of view, yet I'll say it anyways. Hauptmann Fleischer, being so convinced that the war was still on and that "his" men must fight on, must have been convinced of the ideas that the Nazi regime had spread across the country for years. Like all this stuff about the superman race of blond/blue-eyed germans. My point being proved in Fleischer's statement about insubordination when he points the gun at Unteroffizier Hertz for him stating something about a possible end of the war. Now assuming that Hauptmann Fleischer was convinced the war was still on and also convinced of germans being a sort of "Ɯberrace" it seems more likely to me that he would not have beaten his men, being convinced that he was "above" all this crude behavior.

But hey nobody is perfect so you might argue and I'll say okay, but then I wouldn't have had him first straighten this soldiers uniform and then beat him. Like as a german Hauptmann even though not being a SS officer, he would have known his position and rank and he wouldn't have cared whether his men were in the majority or not. In that case it would be his rightfull position and insubordination would have been out of the question.

But the beating scene has been mentioned before, so lets move on. I really liked the camera, sometimes in the middle of the field, only showing some marching boots and stuff, really cool. I liked the acting a lot. Having watched my fair share of flicks I can really say that the acting was great.

The scene composition was also just great, only at the beginning, when you have the men start marching and at the same time you show the German troop marching the onlooker gets the feeling that they (meaning the two troops) will encounter like around the next corner. Also the music at that point created the impression that something was going to happen.
Maybe it was your intention to let "us" think that the two troops were very close to each other, yet I had the feeling at that point that the fluent flow of TLD was a little disturbt. Nobody mentioned it before, perhaps I am the only one feeling that way.

I really like your movie, its really one of the best that I have watched recently, yet just one more thing and that one I'd really like you to keep in mind. wink Next time you need a german translator, please ask me, okay. *lol* biggrin

I am sure you really put a lot of effort into those german passages and I am very happy you actually had german in it. It was really cool, yet most of the time I couldn't understand what was being said and I rather had to read the subtitles in order to comprehend what was going on. I was able to distinguish the passages where the pronunciation was incorrect and they didn't really bother me. It was rather the parts where the subtitles and the said did differ totally. At some points it seemed to me that actually the actors had spoken english rather than german. Like at one point, I am not sure whether it was the actor portraying Hertz, who was shouting at the men to stop shooting. And that he did, he shouted "Cease fire" or something. The german translation would be "Feuer einstellen". That wasn't used there though.

Apart from that, Hauptmann Fleischer most of the time seemed to swallow up the correct pronunciation. But knowing that german is a difficult language I guess its okay. The only thing that really disturbed me was the fact that at some points the german was absolutely wrong. Like in some statements entire words were actually just left out and the english word for it was used instead. I think that could have been avoided. Its not so much that the actors maybe were just sloppy with their pronunciation but rather that they didn't know the correct translation. Like their statements most of the time didn't really make sence. There was hardly any german without mistakes.

I really want to say again that I really like your movie and that basically I only thought that the german language suffered a little bit. I invite you or anybody who needs german translations to ask me. I'll be more than happy to help you.

Great movie again, real emotinal depth - keep up that great work. smile And sorry for the lenght of my comment, yet I really wanted to do justice to the greatness of "The Last Days".
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Loymiin - Wow, thanks for the great insights and comments.

The great thing about movies is that everyone can draw thier own conclusion to any given scene and bring a different angle of depth to it. I know I used a fair share of artistic license in TLD, and sometimes you have to.

Looking back now, I do wish I would have had a native German translator. The guy (that was also a german in TLD) that had the German translated assured me that the translations were accurate, and I believed him. He said he has been speaking German for about 8-10 years so I felt like he knew what he was doing. I don't want to come off as blaming him -I'm not. I guess what I'm trying to say is this - speaking German good does not necessarily mean you can translate good. Thank you for the offer and if I need a German translator in the future I will surely look you up : )

Thanks for taking the time to watch and for the enthusiasm and encouragement.
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Hey, I didn't want to belittle the effort your translator did. Hope you didn't take it this way. I guess being a native speaker just made it obvious to me. But as you said, speaking is unlike translating and I have made my fair share of mistakes when I had to take exams so please don't take it personal. wink I hope that movie will open plenty doors for you. smile
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No belittlement. All in all he did a good job and you didn't offend me at all - didn't mean for it to come off that way. I value and appreciate your comments. Thanks again for the support biggrin
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That is the best WW2 film I have ever seen, Where did you get them props and the outfits cause really you must have alot of money to make this film, You are one of them guys that I watch there films and it makes me want to go out and make a film I look forward to see your next film. biggrin

Travis Bridevaux aka jedijt9
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Have you had anybody looking to buy this film? Its unfortunate it falls short of a cinematic length because I bet you could find a distibuter for this movie.
This movie blew me away. The only flaws I ever found were in lighting, which seemed sparse at times, or you disregarded the power of the sun and your actors were partly overexposed. For the most part it was good, I just think that lighting is what makes the film look like a sellable movie, or just something to view online.
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Travis- thanks for the praise. The US outfits are reproductions from a company in California named What Price Glory. The German uniforms were obtained from a guy that lives about two hours away. The rest of the props I ordered from various sites on the internet. I wish I did have a lot of money! But I don't frown

BlueSmudge - TLD made it into the local film festival here which will be the first public screening. I suppose that's when I'll find out if anyone wants to buy it. Yeah, It's an odd length that makes it awkward to place in festivals. I'm hoping it will draw some interest. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
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Again, great job on the outfits. Although I had a little problem with the sound because I recognized it from a video game, I think Call of Duty? I mean its ok to use it. I just found it funny smile. Although I liked this movie alot, and wish to see more ww2 user videos, I just felt something was missing in this video for me. Ill have to watch it again. Good job though!
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Thanks shiftd.
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I really liked it. You should be very proud. Your whole cast did a great job with the acting . again great job
10/10
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Thanks for the comments sniper. Glad you liked it.
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Hmm, I downloaded a clip and quite liked it. Very interesting subject matter. However, the big file doesn't seem to be recognized by Quicktime 7 (Windows).
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Azura,

Thanks. It works fine in QT 6. I have not tested it with 7 but it should play. Weird - I'll look into it.
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Wow. That was mind-blowing. Simply incrediable work. I loved it from start to finish. 5/5 from me and definately on my top ten.

-Landon
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Landon - Thanks for taking the time to watch it. Glad you enjoyed it!
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I could not take my eyes off my computer screen it was so good eek . One thing, I may have missed you saying this but, Having the spade on your helmets means you are in the 101st Airborne Division. Divisions in WWII would have symbols painted on their Helmets to tell who is in what division.

I'm not sure what division you said you where in. Well thats just me.

Perfect movie biggrin . Can't wait for others by you guys.
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Whenever the germans are talking, they speek german, but they didn't seem to have a german accent except for the officer, also when the germans are talking at about 27:30, it looked like the german officer hit the other german in the jewls.
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This film was absolutely amazing; I didn't take my eyes off the screen for the whole duration. There isn't a lot of films that effect me, at all, but the amount of emotion contained in this film was incredible. Somebody ought to give you the budget to do this for a living.

PS: I'm German, and the accents of the "Germans" in the movie were horrid; but I didn't really mind - the film was just too good otherwise!
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I appreciate the praise alpha54 and I'm glad TLD affected you in a good way. Thanks again!
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i haven't been able to watch it cos it takes ages to load but it looks like a good movie. if ya could put it on windows media player.
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B and S -

Right click on the Play icon and choose "Save Link As" and save it to your hard drive. I would put up a WMV file but I'm out of space on the webserver.
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DAMN! It looks really good but it takes donkeys years to load! and it always overloads my internet connection! i keep having to re-connect! Im so looking forward to watching it!

Also im writing a short war film, any advise or tips?
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And one mroe thing! Gove the guy a break! so what if the accents are not right or the division badgers are wrong! its a good film from what ive read about it! just enjoy it and stop knit picking!
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Professsor -

Right click on play and choose "save link as" instead of trying to stream the video. It will take forever if you try to stream it.

My main advice is to have fun with the project. Pour your heart into the project and I'm sure you will end up with something you can be proud of.

Good luck and have fun!
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Cheers!

You seem to know your stuff, when I've finished the rough version of the script and copyrighted it, can i send you it and get your feedback on it?

thankz again!
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Sure! Just let me know when the script is ready and I'll take a read.

Thanks for the compliments!
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SUCCESS! Its downloaded! HOORAH! Man its looks great! Im lovin' it! I really liked it ALOT!

Biggest congrats!
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I hate to bump this thread but I have to share. I was talking with one of the guys I work with and just discovered he was a cast member! For months I have been trying to place where I knew him from. Chris Smith is one of the German soliders and still works productions with Barry Battles, another cast member. Crazy stuff! This movie was produced on the out-skirts of Birmingham not far from where I live. I was bound to run into one of them sooner or later.

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Very nicely done, some of the stuff with the bullets could be redone. But the lines were great, the German actors were awesome. Some of the Americans could put more emphasis in their lines, but wow... For a low budget film this was very good, the weapons and uniforms really added to it overall.. Bravo!!!

5/5

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towards the end of the film, when the soldier is using the nazi as a shield, where did you get that stock footage? can you send me the link?
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Thank you for your comments Adduson! Totally agree with you about the effects - I should've spent more time on them -oh well.

robosays21 - I bought sollthar's smoke pack - you can purchase them at this link - http://www.nccinema.ch/eprod.html
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for me it didnt fill as intense as a war movie should. i didnt really like the black and white thing know what you where aiming for but it didnt work for me. great costumes and props i'm making a war movie right now ITS HARD so since this is one of the greatest amature wwii movie out there could you please give me some tips.


4/5 really good cool
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AMAZING- Couldn't stop watching that, i really hope you make more. One of the best war films i have ever seen, keep it up.
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So far I have only seen the trailer and it looks like a good film for the action sequences but Im a history buff and I know that when the war ended the germans gave up, got rid of there uniforms and tried to blend in as civilians. They didnt have the urge to fight anymore and peacefully gave up to the allied troops. Its probably a good film and I cant say anymore because I have not seen all of it. Good job!
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Dan - why would you vote a 1 when you havent even watched the film? That baffles me to no end. The trailer is not representative of the film and furthermore there were pockets of resisitance that held out even after the "official " surrender.
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ferral wrote:

Dan - why would you vote a 1 when you havent even watched the film? That baffles me to no end. The trailer is not representative of the film and furthermore there were pockets of resisitance that held out even after the "official " surrender.
About the 1 that I voted, Im a dumb S**t. I thought I was voting 5, check my voting record and you can see that I stupidly voted 1's on some of my favorite films including this one. And No the germans did not fight back in WWII after the official surrender. No offense but this storyline is 100% false and could not have ever happend. Im sorry to tell you this but I am a huge history buff and I know what happend in the final days of Nazi Germany. The only fighting back that was done was by the Hitler Youth, and the some civilains of Germany. Of course they were not attacking but retreating. They took up positions in buildings and other cover and used gorilla tactics to try to hold off the soviet advance. But this did not work and lots of these "defenders of berlin", as they became known as, died defending there homeland.

Japan on the other half fought back for years after the end of WWII. In the 1980's they found an old japanese soldier still alive, but very old, who thought the war was still on! If you would of made this movie about the war of the pacific it would have made more sense.
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This is seriously one of the greatest movies ever not seen in theaters. The acting was brilliant, the plot was amazing, and the effects and props were overacheiving. My Grandpa fought in WWII as a marine in the Pacific. This epic truly shows the war in its truest form.
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EpicWar108 wrote:

This is seriously one of the greatest movies ever not seen in theaters. The acting was brilliant, the plot was amazing, and the effects and props were overacheiving. My Grandpa fought in WWII as a marine in the Pacific. This epic truly shows the war in its truest form.
Are you serious? Thats really a question, not an insult.
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Dan,

Yes, there were some Hitler youth and SS in the "Werwolf" units that continued to fight after the war but thier resistance did not amount to much. By the end of the war, a lot of German units consisted of old men and young boys who were forced into service, as I am sure you already know this.

But the date my events take place is THE day of the surrender - not two weeks later or 20 years later. To say that this 100% could not happen is bold to say the least. A huge number of strange happenings occurred during WWII, most of which may never be known.

Is it so impossible a German unit cut off from command run into and, spurred by a sadistic Captain, engage an allied unit on the day of the surrender? I think not. Stranger things have happened. In the end this is a movie and it is meant to entertain so it does contain some 'Hollywood' liberty regarding certain situations.

"Your sorry to tell me this but you know what happened in the final days of Berlin." I'm sorry to tell you this but it is no secret what events took place to anyone who has studied WWII. And, yes, I too have read a ton of books and seen all the Docu's. So it's not some exclusive info you have. This story did not take place at or near Berlin so I have no idea why that even came up. This isn't about which history buff has the bigger *ahem* knowledge.


Anyway, thanks for taking the time to watch.

Epicwar,

Thanks for the comments! But I do have to say that in the huge realm of great movies mine is but a flyspeck among those giants but I appreciate the praise nonetheless : )
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Ferral,

Now your story makes alot more sense. I was not aware that the german unit was not informed of the nazi surrender. I take back what I said about it being impossible to take place. You should state in the trailer about the german unit being cut off from communication. I like the film even more now. Sorry about my earlier comments.

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I suppose this also means that John Wayne did'nt win ww2 all by
himself just like I was led to believe by Hollywood.
Oh my what am I gonna do all my beliefs shattered in one go....maybe it was Mel Gibson after he knocked seven bells out of the English dressed up like a football supporter.
Back to school folks cos history teachers are so well informed they can tell you what Hitler was thinking just b4 pulling the trigger.....now that is clever.... eek




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Dan,

No hard feelings : ) Thanks.

Dav -

You are a hoot! I promise I haven't forgotten about sending you the goods. smile
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Hehe...np..one of the best films to be shown here.
I'm hoping you'll got off that lazy butt and show us all another classic posermovie.

Goodluck

Dav
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Looks great. Didn't have time to watch the whole thing because I am at work but, it really looks amazing.

The shots are well done, dialogue is well scripted, and I love that fact that you use the "Our Father" when one of the characters gets injured/killed in the firefight.
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I went back to view your trailer but it looks like you have the whole movie up, Is that true? For some reason when I try to download it, the mp4 file turns into a txt file and will not play! mad Can you post a version in .mov format or tell me what Im doing wrong. Thanks.
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Rating: +1

Download it and then change the extension from .txt to .mov or .mp4

Sometimes, the extension doesn't show up so it's difficult to change. I find opening up WinRar and looking at a file through that allows me to change the extension for movie files easily.
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Hey thanks it worked! Ive ran into that problem so many times and I never knew how simple it was to fix. Thanks again!
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Ah, I almost said that same thing. Sad to know I was so close to a plus 1. Blast you and your internet quickness, Mel! biggrin
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wow i thought this was better than bettween the lines ( just because it has a better story)
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Thanks Chec13.
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When can I get a full download of the film? Currently only part 5 seems to be available for download.
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Hi Primipilus,

I've had some hosting problems that I'm sorting out. I will have the full download uploaded soon. Thanks.
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Is there anyway I can get a copy of this on DVD? I'd loveto see it on the big screen.
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This was great!
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It's great to see this brought out of the archives.....well deserved reviewing.


Dave