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Star Wars Fan Film - Ideas Help

Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005, 11:54pm

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Hi all, I have just decided to make a Star Wars Fan Film, now usally I have no problem coming up with ideas. But I am having problems with ideas here becuase I need to come up with an idea that works & fits in with the Star Wars films smile.

I don't really have any ideas and I am open for suggestions smile

Thanks in advance

dalder
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 12:01am

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How about the story of 2 (or more) Jedi Knights on their first assignment outside the Jedi temple on Yavin 4. Taking place several hundred years after the fall of the Empire.

(I was going to do this like, three years ago) biggrin
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 12:10am

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Hi, what Ep would this be after or before? smile

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 1:42am

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Im stuck with the same feeling.

But My personnal Opionion, dont make a film which involves storm troopers. Why? check out my other post.

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19349


AIf you go to the sites, reproductions from the film can range to over 500 bucks. (Buying a storm trooper costume cost 580 bucks.)

So if you wanna stay cheap, id say put Jedi only, cause then, you only need to use like, some expensive bathrobes and toy light sabers.

But anyway, i hope you can appreciate my bit of wisdom. Best of luck.
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 2:26am

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dalder wrote:

Hi, what Ep would this be after or before? smile

dalder
Taking place several hundred years after the fall of the Empire.
So, several hundred years after episode 6 smile
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 6:26am

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Marek, that sounds call, but there isn't a lot of jedi tho is there, i mean luke was the only jedi for awhile until you get the New Rebellion, but i'm not quite sure, lol smile I am it would be a great idea, I think that I would like to go with it, of course that is if you dont mind of course? PM me or I will be on the chat smile

Thanks

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 8:45am

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Hi guys, I just had a few questions.

1.How could I do the opening crawl?
2.With music or soundtracks, as it is a Star Wars Fan Film can I use the official Star Wars soundtracks in the film?

Does anyone have any more ideas? smile

Thanks

dalder
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 9:40am

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Ok, first off, if it's several hundred years after the Empire falls, then the galaxy will be repopulated by jedi. You've just got to look to the Jedi Knight games, where only a decade or so after the fall of vader, the jedi order is up and running again, with new recruits being trained on the jedi temple on Yavin.

Secondly, search the forum for the opening crawl, I'm sure it's been covered before. One way of doing it, by the way, is to use Windows Movie Maker 2's built in title effect. That's very quick and simple.

About the soundtrack - yes, use of the official score is permitted, as long as you're only making the film on a not-for-profit basis.

Cheers,
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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 9:45am

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check this out for the opening crawl if you have premiere

http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotutorial/tut_premiere65.htm
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 9:51am

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Hi, Thanks for the help guys smile

Artktic - Thanks, I thought Star Wars fan films weren't allowed to make a profit from them anyway, lol, so any Star Wars fan film can use any track from any of the soundtracks and release their film commerically like the other fan film? smile

Also I understand the idea, but the thing is that i am no good and taking the basis of the idea and developing it, lol smile

Thanks again guys smile

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 9:56am

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no you cant release it comercially. that would mean you are making money from it. You may show it or distribute it free or use it in your portfolio but no comercial use is allowed.
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 9:59am

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jotoki - No, what I mean is like the other fan films they are released commerically, but you still don't make money from them, lol smile The fan films that are on TFN.net are released at that but they aren't making money from them smile

Sorry for the misunderstanding smile

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:01am

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ah ic well so long as no money changes hands you should be ok. In fact George Lucas encourages it I understand
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:03am

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Yea, I know, lol, thats why I am looking into doing my own one, lol. That whay I was asking questions about the soundtracks and that, as I dont want to get sued, lol. But it looks like I can use the soundtracks and that now, lol smile so everything should be fine smile

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:07am

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yeah I think so you should be fine. I mean look at star wars - revelations (correct title ?) that's a fan film and it's was featured on i rhink it was the BBC web site the other day.
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:42am

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yea, that's right, thanks for the tute, but for somereason it only works with some bits in premiere elements there ar some bits which aren't working and i would really like to do the opening crawl, lol smile

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:47am

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dalder wrote:

but for somereason it only works with some bits in premiere elements there ar some bits which aren't working and i would really like to do the opening crawl, lol :)
Have you used Blender before? It's open source (free to download and use). The following is a basic Blender tutorial to create and render a Star Wars opening crawl.

http://www.blenderwars.com/tut.php?module=crawl
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:51am

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Hi, Not being rude or anything but I don't really get on with belnder, lol smile it was all working fine in premiere elements until i needed to keyframe and it wouldn't keyframe it wouldn't show the text getting smaller over time.

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:55am

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dalder wrote:

Hi, Not being rude or anything but I don't really get on with belnder, lol :)
Yeah, it can be tricky at the best of times. :-) But I've found that if you persevere you can usually get the job done.

dalder wrote:

it was all working fine in premiere elements until i needed to keyframe and it wouldn't keyframe it wouldn't show the text getting smaller over time.
I've also got Premiere Elements. I think it's great value for money but one of the features I wish it had is what you're trying to do: animate text. I'm afraid you can't animate text like you can in the full Premiere version. But you can animate an object such as an image. It won't be as nice, but if you create a JPG/BMP/whatever of the text and drop it onto a track, you can then animate the object's coordinates, size, etc.

But it kind of defeats the purpose of using Premiere Elements. That's where Blender comes in. :-)

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 10:58am

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This is a re-post of a tutorial I wrote a while back - I hope you find it usefull.

A simple way to add the Star Wars style scrolling text to your fanfilms, which is especially useful if you haven’t got expensive editing software. You’ll need Windows Movie Maker version 2, which (if you don’t already have with windows XP) you can get here.

Ok, first thing’s first, open up WMM, and you’ll see the basic timeline. Go to the task button, which looks a lot like this

From here, click the “Make titles or credits” option,

then click “Add title at the beginning of the movie”.

You should now be presented with the title creation screen. You might have to scroll down in the window to see it, but there is an option which reads “Change the title animation”


Here, you’ll need to select “Scroll, Perspective” - you might have to search around in the box for a while, but it is there somewhere


Scroll down again, and click “Edit the title text”. Now enter your text in the big box. It’s nearly right - but you just need to do one more thing. Once you’ve finished typing in whatever text you want, scroll down to “Change the text font and colour”.


Here, you will want to change the font to “Franklin Gothic Demi” in yellow, and you might want to resize it too, depending on personal preference. You’ll also need to set the background to black, as the default setting is navy blue. Once that’s done, bask in the glory of a pretty-damned accurate, and VERY simple SW scrolly text title thingy biggrin



Hope this is usefull smile

Cheers,
Arktic.
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 11:05am

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Thanks Arktic, but the part that I am trying to do at the moment is just the Star Wars bit, lol smile thanks tho smile

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 11:16am

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dalder wrote:

the part that I am trying to do at the moment is just the Star Wars bit
WMM may still be able to do that.

But if you want to persist with Premiere Elements, did you add the "Star Wars" text using a Title?

If so, you can animate the scale, position, rotation and opacity of a text title. But that's about it. That may be enough, but I don't know how good it will look.

All the animation stuff is done in the "Effect Controls" window. To enable animation you need to click on the little timer icon to the left of the item (e.g. to the left of "Scale" or "Position"). It toggles animation on/off for that particular item. Once it is on you can then add keyframes. E.g. start with scale at 100% and then on frame 25 (for example), set it to 25% or so.
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 11:44am

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Hend0 - would you mind helping me please, it is just that I have not had Premiere Elements long and I don't really know what I am doing with the keyframes. smile

Thanks

dalder
Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 11:50am

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Hendo - Nevermind, lol, after fiddling I managed to figure if out, lol smile

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Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2005, 1:19pm

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Actually, with WMM u can do alot of stuff. EVen though i use Avid, this is a sample i made with WMM.

CLICK HERE FOR TEST