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The Young Son (lightsword test)

Posted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2005, 9:55am

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I got effects lab the other day, and i decided id like to try out the lightsword effect. So, i did what my brain told me to do.

I got my friend, and we just made a short light saber film, its no meant to be perfect or anything, i just wanted to make a film and have lightswords.

Please dont judge on the acting and crap. i just need help with swords and effects.


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Posted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2005, 4:03pm

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Erm, the beginning was alright. Then when the red guy came it, it all fell apart. The camera movement following the red guy was bad. Then, in order to have believable saber effects, you will need to add some kind of sound effects. The choreography was strange and the glows/blades were way too hard. They just looked a bit odd. Then you couldn't hear the voices of anyone, and it just kind of radnomly ended with you shooting a bunch of lasers. You would want to round the edges of those to make it look like it is coming at the camera. The clashes/clash was pretty ugly for some reason. Use Ryan Wieber's.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2005, 9:38pm

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Agreeing with serpent, the was a very good intro. Other than the substitute of sounds, also, it seemed that you both tried to make a British accent. Dont know you and him did, butyour not British, just in case you forgot razz. Also, unsteady camera movement. But who cares, just a test. Love ya JJ.

O and if you see i gave you a one, i meant to give you a two. Sorry.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Aug 2005, 4:46am

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what the hell that SUCKS!!!!
Posted: Tue, 23rd Aug 2005, 5:10am

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Well thats not nice, or exactly confirming gUnit.

On FXHome, you are suppose to state your opionion, and why. Example,

Serpant wrote:

The clashes/clash was pretty ugly for some reason
We are not just a giant community of insulting film makers, but a community who try to help eachother to perfect themselves for future references. So please, dont be an ass and respect everyones films both for there mistakes and there high-points. And if you disagree with something, tell them what.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Aug 2005, 11:57pm

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yeah, i was literally just trying on the blades, and if you actually read what i wrote up top,

Please dont judge on the acting and crap. i just need help with swords and effects.

thats what i wrote.
Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2005, 2:41am

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Erm, why submit it if just for that? Post it on the forums via pics or the movie, and beforehand follow Tarn's tute: http://fxhome.com/support/tutorials/view.php?i=35

And spend enough time to find a good clash, and some sound effects. If it is just for the effect, do all that and you got yourself perfect sabers if you pull it off. If you are doing it on Choreography... just spend a bit more time. smile
Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2005, 2:50am

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because its called a test
Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2005, 11:57am

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The beginning credits/titles were positioned well, and were done well over all. I normally don't like to make reviews on just half of my opinion, I try to say exactly what is on my mind when giving advice, but I will respect your wishes and stick to the effects themselves.

It is hard for me to tell you how to better your light sabers, because most people have their own preferences, and there isn't exactly a guide to refer to when looking for what makes it look "realistic". I find that a glow "feather" of about three to five allow for a more light appearance, and can solve the "hard" look that Serpent spoke of.

That setting will change depending on a number of things, such as size of the light saber you are creating, and lighting. You may also want to start adding a larger curve to the tip of your saber to help give the effect dimension. Again, use your creative license on that one.

You chose an interesting way for achieving motion blur; I thought that was pretty unique. If you watch the Star Wars movies you can see that when there is a blur, the effect is kind of stretched, almost as if the light or coloring is dragging, but you went a different way with that, and I suppose it worked for you.

I see you got a handle on the masking aspect of the program, congratulations. Glad it worked out for you. I am giving this a two out of five this time, some of the reasons for this rating is due to the areas of this movie that I am not commenting on at the moment, but not all of them. This isn't a bad first attempt (test); I think you are going to get better.

Not bad.
Wizard.
Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2005, 2:24pm

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finallly somebody actually helps out.

thanks wizard.
Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2005, 2:49pm

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Wizard said everything about effects there is to say, although I still feel I should comment on the rest, because it'll help when you do eventually make somethign that isn't a test.

The beginning was good, camera work was fine and credits were good, although it kind of gave the feeling that you were saying "Wee look at me I can do an Ollie!" (no offense). Then the red dude came in, and that particular shot has a few problems:

1. You have the sky in the background which screwed up the lightness of it. You can see it's much lighter than the other shots.

2. Your camera was on a tripod and it must not be oiled well or something, because you can see as it pans that the tripod blocks.

3. you don't hear what the guy says at all. this can be fixed by recording him afterwards and overlaying it so it matches.

Then when he whips out the saber, it's well rotoscoped but seems to shoort and the tip is not round enough. The move he does also looks quite awful. Never do stuff like that because it usually ends up looking amazingly cheesy. Then when the other guy pulls out his saber, he looks very very bored and does the opposite of the other guy: twirls it shyly around for no reason. Try to act like you really would if you were igniting a lightsaber and about to start trying to chop the other guy's head off instead.

The bit after that is quite confusing for the viewer, and the editing was wrong. First you see the red guy run which is fine, then the blue guy runs and hits something, then we see a far away shot where they are both standing still and the blue guy suddenly hits the other guy's saber softly (when he has a wide open space to hit his upper torso) and then runs away for no reason. Then I think the red guy swings over the blue guy, even though he just ran away. As you see, you have to try and keep a certain consistency when doing fights, and remember who was where and doing what for each shot.

Then we see a shot where the red guy is standing still (even though in the last shot he was swinging over the blue guy's head) and once again says something we can't hear. Finally, we see you shooting some gun which leaves us very confused. The laser bolts that the gun shot should have had rounder tips because they looked like flying glowing blocks.

Finally, the music was just a kind of overlay which didn't match the film at all. Never use Alternative or Metal for a movie like this.



Hopefully you won't take this the wrong way. This is only to help and not to annoy, because negative comments are usually more helpful than positive ones.
Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2005, 5:23pm

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pooky wrote:




"Wee look at me I can do an Ollie!" .
lol, i was sick, and the only thing i can do that day WAS an ollie, i just got over being sick. i can do alot more its just the only thing i was able to do,

lol wee!
Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2005, 5:26pm

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by the way pooky, i like negative comments which help

but i dont like when people are assholes about it, and you werent.

so its cool, none taken
Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2005, 2:31pm

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Just a heads up, no one gave you a negative post, at least on this thread.

But just in case you never found it. This is what makes a good and bad post according to FX.

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Also, im not sure if its mentioned, but if you just put a random idiotic post that has nothing todo with anything, like,

Hehe, PICKLE!

Or something like that, it usuallys gets some negative ratings.
Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2005, 6:30pm

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alex, you suck up

haha jk i love ya