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Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2005, 2:27am

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hi guys,

I have just finished the first poster for my first movie, see if you like it:

LINK CACELLED!!! _ GO TO NEXT PAGE (ITS AT THE BOTTOM)


post your comment or suggestion

love to hear from all of you

thanks

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Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2005, 2:29am

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Please upload to http://imageshack.us It is much easier, no one wants to see it so bad that they will download it and have to deal with throwing it away and whatnot, much easier on the users and I assure you you will get more feedback. It only takes about 6 seconds to upload.
Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2005, 2:31am

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nice one man,

thanks
Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2005, 2:38am

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LINK CANCELLED!!

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Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2005, 3:15am

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Hmm it looks ok but there are a few bad things that I immediately notice about it.

1) It's landscape whereas most posters are portrait.
2) There are no credits or a release date or any writing on it besides the film title. For most posters you see some kind of credits or fine print or a production company logo in the corner or something like that.

Other than that it looks pretty nice. The letters with the lightning in them look good. I will say that the poster gets me somewhat interested in the film.
Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2005, 1:10pm

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I'll make these changes right away....

but not going to put a lot of things on because it will look too stuffy for a teaser.

but thanks you're a great help!
Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2005, 1:48pm

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Hmm, you should definately take some real movie posters and see how they are layed out. The text looks like it was made in Microsoft Word's Word art. (not a good thing) And the cut out of the kids aren't perfect. If you are as young as those kids are, good work for your age.
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 12:05am

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i'm 15 actually,

i didn't cut out the pictures, it was shot in green screen - I forgot to add chroma blur .

but I actually tried to do as much as I could to get it to look more like suggested.

thanks

"fresh eye never hurts"
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 12:17am

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What are you making it in?
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 12:19am

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Just a note, you'd be better of taking a high quality still, then opening it in a program like paint, clicking view>large size, then cutting out the people by hand. Paint can automatically key out white, so just select the object you cut, copy it, and paste it onto the background picture. You can then blur with masks in your NLE if needed.
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 12:30am

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I'm using Adobe photoshop CS2,Paint and Sony Vegas 6.0 for chroma key

off course i'm new to these programs but i'll soon learn
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 12:40am

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If you really don't know the programs, then don't use them. use paint or something simple. Seriously. Every graphic I make, I make in MS Paint. At least try it.
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 12:45am

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But does your graphics come out good in paint?

cause if it does I'll start using it more.

can you post a picture of something you made in paint?
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 1:06am

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Sure. Keep in mind paint can't do everything, but it's a good start if all you need is a couple of things overlapping eachother. I use the computer right handed (I write left0handed) and I can still draw and design some pretty cool stuff in Paint.

Whoa! Found a perfect example!


Okay, see there's one of my signature pictures. It sells my movie, like a poster, only it's smaller and in landscape. I made a couple green globs in Vegas, rendered them on a black background, opened that in Paint, then wrote my text over it. I then found a picture that I thought matched what I was going for- in this case, something with alot of black on one end- and erased arounf the edge of the picture, mainly letting the erased parts feed into some black areas of the picture, so that when I place the image next the the text on the black background, it blends in, rather than looking like I simply put a square picture on top. If you're on an extremely bright monitor, you can see the lines where I cut and that (whoops!) there's a slight amount of extra fuzz, but this is minimal considering this took zero time. You can also do cartoony stuff in Paint, if you draw it. It doesn't take much skill to draw, just take your time and you can get some good stuff.

EX:


or



And voila. A simple, yet effective poster. In Paint.

Even solely in Vegas, you can get something awesome. Just take a still from your movie, grade it, add a color gradient, then add text, and it can look cool.

EX:


And there you go. I don't have Photoshop and I get along just fine.
(FXHomers may even consider me the king of MS Paint.)
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 1:11am

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thanks man, that was good

really helpfull
Posted: Tue, 30th Aug 2005, 1:19am

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Sure, glad I could help.
Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2005, 9:11pm

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I haven't been able to view your poster from the site you have the image hosted (it reads "This process may take 30 or more seconds" to download ... it's been about 30 minutes and still nothing) ... But I thought I may be able to give a few suggestions...

First - If you can get your hand on Adobe Illustrator thats your best bet... It works with vector graphics so you don't get any pixelation. Save your poster in ".PNG" format. It gives you the best quality at the lowest file size. A 23"x35" poster (3450x5250 pixels) is only about 1.5Mb.

Second - If your are including any photo images in your poster, make sure they are clear images and good resolution... the finished poster doesn't need to be any more than 150dpi but the better your photo is you start with the better the final result will be. I suggest getting a digital camera, some good lighting and have yourself a photoshoot with your actors. Then mask out your images in a program like Photoshop, save them as "PNG" files with transparent backgrounds and then import them into Illustrator.

Third - I found this free font called Movie Poster (simple enough) that is the font used in the credits down at the bottom of the poster... it gives your poster a little more of a professional look.

Fourth - If you want to have your poster printed, I've used both CafePress.com and Zazzle.com with good results from both for about $18 per poster (go to your local print shop and I'll cost you about $60)


I came across this website that I thought gave a few good suggestions:

    - Is the movie title prominently featured? Is the text easy to read?
    - Are the main actors shown? If so, which ones? What do their appearances and expressions convey about the movie?
    - What is the design of the movie poster? Does it accurately reflect the mood and tone of the film?
    - What other images are included? What do you notice about the framing of the images?
    - What text is shown on the poster? Is there a catchy slogan? If so, what does it tell you about the movie's story?
    - Is there any other important information included on the poster?
    - Why do/don't you think this movie poster is persuasive?



Here is an example of a poster I created for my brother's movie. This poster has copyrighted material on it so I can't have it printed but I used the same design software and resolution for about 20 other posters I've had printed for a chain of video game store I create advertising for...

Cick on the poster (or right-click and "save target as") and you can view the poster at full size... 3450x5250 pixels at 1.4Mb. If you view the full size poster you'll notice that at full size the text is nice and clean with no artifacts or pixelation ... the images is "blurred" with a sort of watercolor effect but that was done on purpose ... the image itself is clean with no pixelation.

Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005, 2:49am

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Ok, there is NOTHING paint can do that Photoshop can't, and don't use Vegas for keying. Use photoshop and cut it out by hand. It turns out much better if done correctly. Why would you use paint when you have Photoshop? I just don't see it... For Photoshop tutorials to improve those skills, visit http://good-tutorials.com You can make much higher quality graphics than Paint in a much more efficient manner using hundreds of layers if need be.
Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005, 4:20pm

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ZukoVega wrote:

I haven't been able to view your poster from the site you have the image hosted (it reads "This process may take 30 or more seconds" to download ... it's been about 30 minutes and still nothing) ... But I thought I may be able to give a few suggestions...
LOL that's because it says click here to download the file (or something like that) underneath the "This process may take 30 or more seconds" part.
Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005, 8:49pm

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NuttyBanana wrote:

LOL that's because it says click here to download the file (or something like that) underneath the "This process may take 30 or more seconds" part.
wink Wise ass! .... there was a problem with the website yesterday. The download box would open (I use Firefox) but the download would never complete...
Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005, 9:04pm

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Serpent wrote:

Ok, there is NOTHING paint can do that Photoshop can't,
Suck?

cool

-MAGIC
Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 1:20pm

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ok, thanks to all you guys I developed more experience and here's what I've accomplished....


LINK CANCELLED!!!


cool

GO TO PAGE 3 FOR POSTER!!!

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Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 1:54pm

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ok i still think it needs alot of improving

a good thing to do, where you ahve the hard and pixelated edge around the cut outs of the two kids if, in photoshop, you select the rectangle marque tool then make a selection somewhere right click the middle of it and select feather, then input a number, this will fade away the pixles by what ever number you put in. then delete away the edges of the pictures so it blends in to the backround

sorry but i am rubbish at writing tutorial type things so you will have to try and fugure out what i mean

if you send me the source files of your pictures, i can try and come up with something for you

hope that helped

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Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 2:04pm

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thank you for the suggestion but i like to keep thing personal

but you are great help!!!!!!


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Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 2:39pm

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Wait, what's the point of posting it if you aren't going to take our advice. He just gave great advice. Also, the text is still horroble. Are you making it in Paint or something? Do you not see the jaggedness? I can't read any of the credits. Good luck qith the film though.
Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 2:43pm

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i do take advices, but he asked was saying if I sent him the material I was working on he could do somethin for me and i dont want that...... whats wrong with you............and the text is from cinema 4d not paint


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Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 2:55pm

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oh and by the way, the reason you can't see the credits is because you didn't see it in its normal size - try clicking on the image........... evil
Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 3:03pm

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and SMB thank s i'll have these changes done for tomorrow...........got nothing against you alright
Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2005, 3:16pm

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I thought you meant on the pixel size thing he mentioned. Anyways, even the large image has text that is some of the most jagged I have ever seen. I wouldn't do text in C4D, it's good to do it in the graphics program. Look up Photoshop tutes at http://good-tutorials.com Also, no need to tripple post, click on the edit button.
Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2005, 2:56am

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This version of your poster looks a lot better, you've made some good progress. Whatever program you are using to create the text see if there is an option to make the text anti-aliased, this will get rid of the jagged edges - even at full size some of the text is unreadable. Also, you may want to capitalize the "T" on "times" in your title. Other than that you've done a good job with the images you have to work with.
Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005, 10:46am

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OK,

I just bought adobe illustrator yesterday, but the problem is I don't know how to use it.

does anyone know of a good tutorial site for illustrator?

please help

thanks in advice biggrin
Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005, 10:54am

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Illustrator Tutorials

Please search the forums in future. There's a sticky post at the top of the FilmMaker's Forum called the Ultimate FAQ - check to see if there is anything there before you ask someone to find something for you.

Cheers,
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Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005, 10:57am

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thanks very much!!!!


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Posted: Thu, 8th Sep 2005, 11:09am

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what do you guy think of this one?!

any more suggestions?



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http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=9/25006005386.jpg&s=x4


http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finished2ai.jpg


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I don't want to put a damper on things, but it made me cringe - the idea is good and the layout, but the actual quality was VERY poor. You say you purchased Illustrator? I presume the 'dark times' writing isnt a font then? It's as if you rasterized a small bit of text, then scaled it up 100 times. I know the font looks like that, but it should be sharper and more clear.

Illustrator is a vector based design program - useful for doing your fonts/logos in. When done, I'd take the .ai files into Photoshop or InDesign to do the actual layouts if I were you. If you write the text in a font in Illustrator, you'll also notice it is vector based - i.e. you can make it as huge as you want without it ever becoming pixelated.

Things to improve - the background first of all. Secondly, try get higher quality images of the persons. Third, try not use images for text if that's what you're doing and make sure you keep everything crisp - preferably with vector based graphics so you can resize as you need.

You've taken away links from your previous attempts which doesnt help me understand how you may have improved/not improved from 'running' faults that you have each time you do an updated version. This would have been useful, but considering I can only see the latest version, I'd say you still have a long way to go!

Keep it up though and use everyones comments constructively to help improve your skills further. It's the only way we learn!!

Peace.
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i agree with platinum

the quality of photos is rubbish, thats the first thing to sort out, i also thing that thoughs pictures you got as a screenshot - and any pro here will tell you that if you want stills set up a slr or digital camera get yoru actors, sort out the lighting and take proper quality photos

i know i basically just said what platinum did - lol - but still it needs reinforcing

plus i am not sure why you have that strange backround what is it?

this is not any offense but it is just constructive critism

PS WHY DID YOU BUY ILLUSTRATOR SURE IT IS GOOD BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE PHOTOSHOP, I WOULD SAY THAT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY.

Hope i am continuing to help - lol

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Posted: Fri, 9th Sep 2005, 12:02am

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ok,

photoshop is a bit different (it works with pixel)

about the "strange background", you'll have to wait and see. lol

thanks

ps: I really don't know what happened to the title it wasn't like that!!!! is freaking me out. LOL