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Boogeyman: The Prophecy

Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2005, 3:54pm

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This film was created for the sole purpose of making people laugh. My friend plays the lead role who is a teenager who suffers from various social disorders and has to confront his enemy Boogeyman. It may seem a little slow at first, but the laughs make up for it. Inspired by "Boogeyman" and Comedy Central's "Stella", this is one of the films that we produced this summer. The movie is supposed to look low-budget and fake as you will see. There was no scripting so therefore every scene in this film is pure improv.

Starring Evan Lewis, Mary Hunter Benton, and Bam Dalsimer
Produced by Andrew Zenn and Evan Lewis
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Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2005, 6:13pm

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Wow ! That was a weird movie ! I'm really not sure what to think of it... the editing was sometimes a bit weird you know, when you see that guy and then you see him in another angle.

I was entertained by the movie, and I liked it.

3/5 !
Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2005, 7:01pm

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This is a most bizarre movie. Sure the plot is bizarre, but what makes it weirder still, is that it actually has some really, really good qualities - albeit put to use on probably the most 'Wrong' subject matter i've ever seen on FXHome. (except possibly for the fat chinese guy in nothing but his Y-fronts pretending...uh....'it' was a lightsaber, back in mid-2001.)

In no particular order, one thing which stand out is your understanding of appropriate framing and shots. The closeups, in total silence, the broad shot of lots of spazzes frolicking accompanied by pastoral music. There are some technically tricky shots too, such as the cameraman running backwards out the door, providing a front-on view of, the dude with The Hair. There was some also excellent cutting and excellent shot composition. Even your intro studios logo is carried off with panache.

Perhaps i'm giving you too much credit and you're in fact simply replicating something you've seen without knowing why it works. I think it probably takes some knowledge of the methods, to be able to duplicate it as well as you have, though.

Frankly, I'm a bit baffled that you put what seems to be notable talent, into making this. Have you ever seen a dutch film called "Idioterne" (The Idiots)? Your film bares a striking resemblence to it, in passing. Lars von Trier pulled it off better though, probably due to the acting ability of the cast which is quite staggering, given the material.

If you haven't seen it, its really worth watching although it is disturbing to the point of wanting to turn it off, at many points.

Anyway, back to what i was saying: loads of talent, but put it to better use.
Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2005, 8:03pm

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You obviously put some effort into this and thats what makes it so hard for me to rate. It was well done, although completely incoherent. It wasnt funny....but again it was well done...... tell you what, if you did the exact same movie with a coherent plot I would give you a 4, even though its not my since of humor cuz its well done. However since there was not a coherent story Im giving you a 3
Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2005, 10:48pm

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Just to put some things in to perspective for everyone, this movie can be considered a "side" project for us that we did over the summer. Over the summer we began preproduction for our first major film "Escape Velocity" which will be complete next year and will include major CGI elements and compositing with special effects and stuff like that. We decided to make this ironic film from jokes that we picked up while planning the film and writing the script.

Thanks everyone for leaving feedback
thats what makes fxhome fxhome!
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 12:03am

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Well. I'll say this.

You and evman seem to make similar films. This will probably go head to head with american idiots 2.

As for a review..I'd better just leave it at. "Wasn't a big fan"

Also, at certain points i thought for SURE the lead actor was mentally handicapped in real life.
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 12:38am

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Bryce007 wrote:

Well. I'll say this.

You and evman seem to make similar films. This will probably go head to head with american idiots 2.

What was the relevance of that? It's not giving him anything constructive to go with, and we won't even get into how much of a jerk you seem for keeping up this little tyraid against my year old movie.

As for your film, azenn01... I dunno. Too much random, not enough funny, imo. It's not a good idea to use such recognized, epic, soundtrack music like this, it just makes you seem really really amateurish. You might want to conisider shortening it down to, because I found it difficult to keep my attention on it for too long. Seems to me you got the humor, you just need to learn how to use it so that more people will get it.
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 12:50am

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First of all, I happened to really enjoy this film. I think the main character overacted in a few moments, but some of them made me laugh out loud. Editing and sound was done real well, and since there was really no "dialogue" it worked.

This is a "cheese" movie people. It's a film made for people to laugh, and thats it. Story or no story, if it made you laugh then it's done it's job.

Sure some people in reality will laugh at certain things and not others, and some people will no laugh at all, but comparing it to something "professional" doens't work for this type of film.

It was pretty random, and pretty dumb..but in a good way, which made me laugh. It was a fun movie, and the only point im trying to make is that some will like it, and others wont just because its a "cheesy" film.

5/5


-Z
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 1:27am

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I really enjoyed watching this. Good work of camera (for the style you were trying to create), good editing, good cast (it honestly wouldn't have been funny without the dude with the fro.), good use of music in most places(some of the music didn't go well..like the starwars music). It kept me interested throughout the whole film, even though I had no idea what was happening in the story. IMO, this is the funniest film on FX home. Keep up the good work! Hope to see more from you in the future.
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 3:01am

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This is a very funny film indeed! I agree that at times I found myself drifting, but then suddenly i would find myself laughing out loud! The kid with the hair totally makes the movie, as well as the editing! Also, what comprssing software did you use to put it to the web because a 13 min. movie can get up there in file size!

Hilarious in my book!!!
5/5


-KrInSkI
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 3:19am

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I see you are in Chapel Hill, Im in Waxhaw...hour away? (30 minutes south of Charlotte)
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 3:55am

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Thanks everyone for the positive feedback about out film! As for Krinski's question, I used Cleaner 6 to encode my video to the internet. It is an amazing tool! And as for Frozenpede, it is good to hear that there are other FXHomers in North Carolina.
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 4:22am

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Zea wrote:


This is a "cheese" movie people. It's a film made for people to laugh, and thats it. Story or no story, if it made you laugh then it's done it's job.
-Z
funny you should say that zea... lol i actually really enjoyed the film.. and that kinda gos along with my company name (cheezyfilms) lol i actually agree with Xcession.. the film in my opinion was actually put together rather well.. i think its just some people dont understand the style..

kind of like napoleon dynomight.. if you dont understand the humor you'll hate it (its a love or hate movie).. but this film in my opinion was pretty good i laughed out loud a few times and gave a few grins..

sound was nice (most films dont spend time on this factor) filming was good and i liked the way you put everything together (the begining had some weird editing.. but once you get past the 20 seconds its great)

i dunno i think your first post kind of explains any of the bad.. the rest was good smile

One question.. do you have a site i could check other videos out at ????
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 11:51am

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Yeah I wasnt saying noone would like the video, I'm saying that some people wont like it only because it doesnt have the serious factor. I know many fxhomers will like it.


-Z
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 11:56am

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Bryce007 wrote:

Also, at certain points i thought for SURE the lead actor was mentally handicapped in real life.
I hadn't realised that he was an actor.

I didn't really detect anything particularly funny in this, I have to say. I sat watching in disbelief throughout, alternately perplexed and rather disturbed.

Maybe I'm just getting old, but acting like a complete weirdo for an entire film doesn't really work for me, all it does is make the actor come across as slightly unhinged and in need of therapy.
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 12:05pm

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azenn01 wrote:

Thanks everyone for the positive feedback about out film! As for Krinski's question, I used Cleaner 6 to encode my video to the internet. It is an amazing tool! And as for Frozenpede, it is good to hear that there are other FXHomers in North Carolina.
besides you and me I think there are two others, Jessy and a guy who's name I forget....made the short with his kids....
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 6:04pm

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i know zea i just laughed cuz you used the word "cheese" and im cheezyfilms (just kinda funny to me...) i dunno -_- wink
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 6:13pm

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I laughed pretty hard at this, but only because I was certain that some kids with some form of disability had gotten hold of a camera and made a movie which they submitted to the cinema for whatever reason which people would then have to criticise carefully so as not to sound offensive or politically incorrect.

The fact that you're not mentally disabled means you don't get the sugarcoated reply. Though acting 'retarded' may seem funny to you, it's essentially belittling people with genuine mental problems and I'm not entirely cool with that.

Xcession was right in saying that this shows some film-making talent/potential which has unfortunately in this case been wasted on just acting like silly kids. Maybe you can spend some time to plan your next movie and put effort into making something which you'd be proud to show other people.

Good luck.

-Hybrid.
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 7:54pm

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LOL @ Hybrid-Halo i dunno.. were they making fun of retarded people? or were they simply saying that the original was just stupid.. lol (that wasnt a serious question)

yes it can be offending.. but at the same time.. most people only take offence to what they see as being wrong.. but then turn around and make fun of someone being fat, skinny, tall, short which to me is all the same thing.. its just one is worse according to society

i dunno im prob sounding like a ignorant bas7@rd.. but to me they were just making fun of themselfs.. nothing more..


btw.. i think my neighbor is mentally retarded... she didnt know that cows pee'd... (she thought they jsut produced milk...) not that it has anything to do with this... (kinda) she also thought that dinosaurs were made up.. (a result of the public school)

lol ttyl
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 8:25pm

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dude, calm down. it's a "cheese film"
...it is not the next hollywood blockbuster

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Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 8:34pm

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azenn01 wrote:

It doesnt even begin to make fun of the mentally-handicapped; the main character has social disorders where he randomly does weird and funny things.
The way you word that suggest that through generic immature naivity you are, whether you're doing it on purpose or not belittling people with mental/social orders. I'm not flipping a lid or saying that I thiink what you've done is out of order/insensitive. I think it's just immature razz
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 8:39pm

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The Idiots its widely held as a piece of Punk Cinema, simply because its shoving that which you really don't want to deal with, right in your face.

Whilst i don't think azenn01 has the balls or political tenacity to have created this film with that particular social agenda in mind - it should be noted that making films rideculing the handicapped isn't necessarily a bad thing at all. In fact it would probably be most politically incorrect to NOT do a film taking the piss out of the handicapped - otherwise it would seem like discrimination of the non-handicapped when films like dumb and dumber are released razz
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 8:55pm

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haha Xcession hits a point. People are different, I see films making fun of Southerners all the time, Minnesota jokes, redneck jokes, heck if you arnt made fun of chances are that you are being patronized....to some thats more offensive

and Hybrid has a point, the comedy in this movie is kinda taking a stab at mentally handicapped cuz the things we are meant to laugh at are things that mentally handicap really do.

Having said that, some will think that is funny some wont ( i didnt....but I wasnt offended either....kinda non effected by this project really)
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 8:58pm

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LOL you guys are great... ::surfs for forums posts:: so much strife wink
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 9:07pm

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Frozenpede wrote:

I see films making fun of Southerners
OK NOW THAT OFFENDS ME... IM FROM THE SOUTH.. i can vow that my iq is way over.. 10.. or 15... is that high?


i dunno BUT THATS NOT FUNNY... lol
Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2005, 11:34pm

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Actually not only is the south demanding a bigger market for digital media every day, but the state of North Carolina alone has one of the biggest film industries in America.
Posted: Wed, 21st Sep 2005, 1:38am

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azenn01 wrote:

Actually not only is the south demanding a bigger market for digital media every day, but the state of North Carolina alone has one of the biggest film industries in America.
haha you dont know me then smile Im HUGE into the south. Brothers room is covered in Southern flags haha.
Posted: Wed, 21st Sep 2005, 1:04pm

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wow, that was weird, i really dont think thier is anything weirder than this. i really thought you where retarted. tard because the way you act. that just freaks me out
3/5 wink
Posted: Wed, 21st Sep 2005, 1:14pm

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CAUSE IT'S MY SHOW I'M ANDY MILONAKIS!!!!!!
Posted: Wed, 21st Sep 2005, 5:29pm

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My reaction to this film is very simple:

---???---

A big questionmark.
You say the movie is meant to be funny but I don't see anything funny in it. Though I think you put a lot of efford in making this movie, acting like a loonatic isn't a very hard job and when you do it for 13 minutes it is ought to get boring.

The music choice is very good, only this doesn't show too well because of the quality of the movie and the choatic way the scène's are filmed.

At first the story was completely passing me by, later in the movie it became a little clearer to me and I think it was rather childish. I was not touched or effected by the rather boring story. And two loonatic chasing each other for 13 minutes isn't changing that so easily.

Long story short. I think you have the means and quality's. But you've just got to start using them. Cuz I don't like to insult people, or say bad things about movies. But this movie can't do anything more to me then suck.
You did convince me you CAN do it though. Great music choice really loved it. Your actors don't seem shy, they are ready to go to the limit. Thats good!
So I say, definatly make more movies but take all the things people have said in this topic with you and improve yourself a lot.

Greetz.
Gekjas