i wanna see a film that uses the thunderpipe fx!
Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2005, 7:44pm
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Anyone bought one and used it in their film? Id love to see it in action, because im going to buy 3 for my upcoming film... thanks!
Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2005, 10:36pm
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nope not yet, but my friend will be purchasing one soon (according to what he says to me) i am excited and when he gets it ill film some tests with it.
Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2005, 11:12pm
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Thunderpipe fx? whats that.
Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2005, 11:23pm
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Bryce007 wrote:Thunderpipe fx? whats that.
Check it out here.
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 1:11am
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i'm building one and im sure i'll test it.
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 2:36am
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Thunderpipe doesn't come with a compressor? So it's just a big expensive pipe with a button?
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 3:06am
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Damn this looks cool. I want to see some tests.
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 3:13am
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This looks kinda cool...Though I could just use stock footage..This is a great idea though, because when FXvault comes out people could make numerous effects for us...COOL!
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 5:14am
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anyone got schematics for this...? Just wondering. I did post the product in the Triggerstreet forums for some exposure.
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 7:46am
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Hmmmm, interesting. Very cool find, and if it can truely be pumped up with a bicycle pump only, and still make blasts of the calibur that the video indicates, then it may very well be worth the money.
On the site, they have a video file of an explosion they made using this badboy, and Kerosene. How exactly would you use a device like this to make such an explosion? They say they don't recommend doing it, which is slang for "we wont tell you, because its a legal liability." So, does anyone have any idea how it would be done with this thing?
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 9:25am
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Myself and er-no used something similiar in our upcoming film "Project One" though we didn't use the advertised Thunderpipe, we just used some compressors along with our own material launchers.
I think the Thunderpipe may be a tad expensive for what it actually is in all honesty, and buying lots of them won't make your movie any better, it's even likely to hinder you unless you can also buy the compressors and work out a way of remote setting them all off at the times you want.
And to get the fireballs from it I imagine they fill the pipe with some form of flammable liquid which it shoots out over a constant flame. That's just a guess though.
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 8:52pm
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Gasoline/Kerosene, whatever you want to call it.
It says the fireball made in the example movie is highly dangerous and not recommended. You will have to alert all neighbors and the police if you plan on filming with one of these crazy remote control bazookas. You should also call the fire department too, and have them send someone over...
Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005, 9:20pm
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Lithium Kraft, whatever do you mean? I was planning on just filling it up, and then shooting it at my little brother....You know, for yucks.
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 12:01am
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i finished building mine i'm testing it on saturday i would look for a test on suday to be posted
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 12:04am
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Awesome, I say just post it in this same topic. I really look forward to seeing how the test turns out, good luck!
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 1:02am
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I believe they filled it with gasoline and put a self-starting charcoal briquette right next to where it would all shoot out. It's like the tutorial for their Smaller Effects Blowpipe
except they use powdered coffee creamer. Amazing how many uses coffee has!
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 3:08am
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deng no videos?? Hehe, thats ok, the three Im getting will be used for a military film set in afghanistan...
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 3:11am
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Lithium Kraft wrote:Amazing how many uses coffee has!
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 8:15am
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Hmmmm, I wonder...If I used the pesticide sprayer that i've been using to do bullet hits, to try and make a fire ball with this creamer stuff...I wonder how big I could make it. Since all they do is blow through the tube, I wonder how big i could make it using the pressure from this thing, and using a huge freaking amount of creamer. Hmmmmm.
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 1:58pm
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ok and if it works i'll give you the instructions on how i made it.
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 7:11pm
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Awesome, i'm looking forward to seeing how it goes.
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 10:44pm
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Squid wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder...If I used the pesticide sprayer that i've been using to do bullet hits, to try and make a fire ball with this creamer stuff...
The Twisted Studios guys- FXHome legends- did that. They filled an insecticide sprayer with lighter fluid I believe, then sprayed it at a small lit fire, and hence flames were thrown.
They have videos and how-tos somewhere on their site.Twisted Studios Site
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 1:02am
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does anyone have a way to do realistic bullet hits instead of the , excuse my language, gay ass pesticide bottle?
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 1:41am
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Well, you could so far as to make squibs. It's really not "that" hard to do at all, it just caries a certain amount of risk, since you are baically setting explosives off near your precious bodily organs.
Really though, the pesticide sprayer tecnique is anything but a gay ass, I assure you. I don't know if you have tryed it and not liked it, or what, but if all you need to show at once is a single bullet hit, it works exceptionally well.
If you still aren't satisfied with that, or need to multiple hits in 1 take or something, then squibs are the way you want to go. Although, as I said previously, they are dangerous as well as semi difficult to make.
**EDIT*** Also, if you want to try and do it a bit simpler, you could use fire crackers as sort of small makeshift squibs. If you refer to the link to the Twisted Studios web page, posted just a little above, and watch their video "Pharmacide", you can see some good examples of using this technique.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 1:57am
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ive tried the piesticide technique and i really didnt like it, what i plan to do is use squib but have a protective hard layer underneath the squib, thus protecting the actor
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 2:06am
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They're still gonna hurt like hell, though. You know that, right?
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 2:46am
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thatll help the actors with the pain
Have you ever tried them?
I had on place on my stomach, and they had a hard plastic surface under me when it detonated
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 3:30am
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I attempted to make squibs a while back, and i'm fairly sure i figured it out, but we bought the wrong black powder, so it didn't work. It would just burn and smoke for a second, but not explode. lol
Eventually ill get the right stuff, and make workign ones. As for them hurting even with protection, that is pretty true. Because even though they wont burn you or anything, the force from the impact is like a punch in the stomache. Haha. Just make sure the protection is more than adequate, and has padding.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 3:52am
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lemme know what to use to make them!
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 7:41am
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Alright, if i can figure out how to correctly make them, and it works, then Ill make a topic or something about it. It will be a while though, so don't hold your breath. Right now though, all i can say is just don't buy the black powder that comes in little cylinder shaped pellets. Although these look perfect for squibs, and were even recommended to me by an employee at a sporting goods store, they do not work. I'm not sure why, I think it has something to do with them not getting enough oxygene quick enough, so it just burns and does not explode. I'm not really sure. But you will definetely want to go with powdered form.
Other than that, I don't know exactly what to use yet. But when I find out, i'll let everyone know.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 1:44pm
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It failed horrably. It pritty much was a cannon and the mix of dirt i had to make a dirt explotion just fired across are feild in a ball of mud like crap. I tried alot of diffrent ways but i think i'll try agein next week.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 2:51pm
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ok, since the topic has shifted a bit ti squibs, heres what I do:
bear with me here...
What you need:
model rocket launcher
model rocket engine igniters
thick cardbaord or patch of leather
the m-60 firecrackers look like little dynamites, they are not. Take the little plastic caps off and cut the cardboard wrapping off. You will be left with what looks like a plaster ball with a fuse sticking out. CAREFULLY break apart the plaster and you will find a little 'pill' of gun powder with a fuse sticking in it. Carefully pull the fuse out an put an engine igniter in it. Now, light your candle and drip the melting wax on the 'pill', making sure you seal up the hole where the igniter is. You should put enough wax on the whole thing to just about double its size. The rest is easy:
make your plastic bag of blood. Tape it to the cardboard/leather so that plastic still shows facing out. Tape the 'pill' to the plastic bag with SCOTCH tape (not duct tape). Tape the whole contraption to you actor(or the shirt, but that tends to leave a wierd bump). Connect the model rocket launcher to the igniterstand back and press the button. pop!
I've done this plenty and the only thing it is, is loud. keep that in mind. I've never had anyone get hurt cause 1) the charge isn't big enough, and 2) the charge is on TOP of the blood bag(which is on top of the cardbaord/leather)
Hop this helps some of you guys.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 8:36pm
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Interesting. How much does it blow through the shirt? Like a huge hole, or just a tiny opening? And you say the firecracker is on top of the blood bag? Aren't you supposed to do it the other way around, with the blood bag on top of the fire cracker, so it sprays the blood outward through the hole?
Posted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005, 2:17am
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that is an interesting way of producing squibs, ill hvae to give it a try!
Posted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005, 4:34am
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the charge will blow through the shirt and leave a nice hole. But you put it on top because the charge will not blow through the bag and shirt if its behind the bag. It'll still throw some blood out upon detonation, and you will get a cool blood pouring out effect as well. Have fun.
Posted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005, 4:39am
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Awesome! Great idea! I'll give it a try!
Posted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005, 4:52am
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Fireworks illegal in CA?
Posted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005, 5:02am
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In most cities of CA, yes.
Posted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005, 5:19am
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lame, ive got some friends that go to mexico and pick them up...so this shouldnt be a problem....
Posted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005, 7:22pm
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About making explosions - if you guys haven't seen it already I tried it out and made a short topic showing it - http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20531
The topic has links that go to the short movie. 2 explosions are made then played back in 4x slow motion.
Posted: Wed, 5th Oct 2005, 6:09am
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yea i saw that, excellent topic...+1
Posted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005, 11:02am
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OMG! if you don't get a compresser thats a complete rip off! Is that for sure? I'd be suprised at that price if you don't get one.