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Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 5:44am

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I just found this pretty good iPod knockoff at RadioShack.com

Link, fool!

It has an inverted red screen, similar to the iPod, except for the fact that the controls are actually via a touch screen. Kyrics automatically load for selected songs, and can be scrolled thourgh as the music plays on the player. That's pretty pimp. Just thought that was pretty cool.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 5:46am

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I bet Sark's mp3 player looks like that.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 11:02am

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Yeah that one is awesome.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 1:00pm

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Thats pretty sweet...I gotta tell my dad about this one!(He is desparate for and iPod...)
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 3:09pm

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M:robe is great! I have a roommate here at college and I checked his out. Its worth the price and works well! I'm going to be purchasing mine off of ebay.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 3:23pm

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why does it have an anti shock to prevent skipping???? lol

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Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 8:08pm

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It's a hard drive.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 8:48pm

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mp3 player does not equal iPod knockoff
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jstow222 wrote:

mp3 player does not equal iPod knockoff
What are you saying?
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 9:29pm

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Lithium Kraft wrote:

jstow222 wrote:

mp3 player does not equal iPod knockoff
What are you saying?
You can't beat the ipod? No matter how hard you try...
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 9:29pm

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That definitely looks pretty sweet... better looking than iPods are, anyway.

Oh, and Ben... I think to be a true FXHome Veteran, you need to go a little further back... Like, those who remember (and used) this:



Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 9:34pm

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Im saying that the iPod wasn't the first mp3 player and since its release everything thats come after seems to be referred to as a rip or knockoff which isn't always true.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 11:30pm

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nitroviper007 wrote:

That definitely looks pretty sweet... better looking than iPods are, anyway.

Oh, and Ben... I think to be a true FXHome Veteran, you need to go a little further back... Like, those who remember (and used) this:



i have always wondered how the first alamDV looked like smile thanks for the screenshots
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 11:41pm

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The only thing I don't really like about ipods are how now people buy them just because they think they're cool, to me it seems as though the iPod has lost it's 'gadget' status. Mine isn't even that old and I don't know anybody personally that's owned for even half as long as me.
Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2005, 11:55pm

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nitroviper007 wrote:

That definitely looks pretty sweet... better looking than iPods are, anyway.

Oh, and Ben... I think to be a true FXHome Veteran, you need to go a little further back... Like, those who remember (and used) this:



I remember AlamDV1. I didn't have an account then, because I just watched movies from the cinema rather than posting. But I was there. I was there, alright.
Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2005, 12:39am

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I like the iPod's color screen, and it's overall design... but... um... I don't like it's overpricedness. And, frankly, I concur with Deepcoiler about how people buy iPods because they are merely iPods. No regard to the fact that pricewise, they are nearly almost always $50-$60 more expensive for the exact same size of mp3 player elsewhere.

I'm definitely getting a Dell DJ, or a Creative Portable Media Center... preferably the latter.
Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2005, 1:25am

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I think that ipods are better, just because they hold so much more, plus, can mp3 players play games?
Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2005, 2:37am

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film freak wrote:

I think that ipods are better, just because they hold so much more, plus, can mp3 players play games?
No. A portable media player might. Might. But, uh, if mp3 player's could play games what would be the point of portable game systems, eh?
Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2005, 2:59am

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I like my Discman. They're practically free and there is no song limit. Every advantage on the iPod. Own.
Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2005, 5:04am

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Zeolahn wrote:

I like my Discman. They're practically free and there is no song limit. Every advantage on the iPod. Own.
Song limit-maybe 30 songs.......tops? plus you have to factor in CD cost and carrying case. But still, discmans keep it old school. Respect, ma brotha.

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atom wrote:

Song limit-maybe 30 songs.......tops? plus you have to factor in CD cost and carrying case. But still, discmans keep it old school. Respect, ma brotha.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Plus, CD players are huge and bulky. Give me an iPod nano over a CD player any day.
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Plus, CD players are huge and bulky. Give me an iPod nano over a CD player any day.
Yeah speaking of CD players you can buy them REALLY cheap now because of MP3 players...Everyone thinks there 'useless' now...I'm probably could buy one for about $15 at Wal-Mart or something!

From cassette players to CD players to MP3 players.

If you think of it music influences Ameican and British culture heavily...It's really bad in America with rap(crap without a "C")
Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2005, 1:21pm

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swg33k wrote:

If you think of it music influences Ameican and British culture heavily...It's really bad in America with rap(crap without a "C")
Haha.
Posted: Fri, 30th Sep 2005, 12:20am

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No, the discmen that play mp3 files means you can store at least 200 songs per CD...ultimately meaning the discman can own especially for its price. Think about that people. And CD's aren't too bad for their size...really. Plus if your discman breaks/gets stolen...you can always get another for 15$. Rather than buying another iPod or something for what, +200$? No thanks.

They overprice iPods just because they've been heavily commercialized. Everyone thinks they have to have an iPod to be cool. At least, in America...I've seen a few people at school walking around holding their iPod outstretched in one hand and their pants half-way down their legs with their hand over their crotch to hold them up saying "Sup, foos. I've got mahself one of dem iPods."

That's mostly sterotype though...but true for my school.

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Posted: Fri, 30th Sep 2005, 12:56am

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Maybe you tools shouldn't base your opinion of rap by what you see on MTV.
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I have listened to a lot of rap, and I just don't like the genre. Even old rap, new rap, indie rap, white rap, soft rap, Christian rap. None of it is good, not everyone watches only MTV. It's one of the few networks I completely avoid at all costs. Usually if I don't like a genre, I hate EVERYTHING in the genre. Country, rap, blues, and jazz. I don't like anything of any of the genres.
Posted: Fri, 30th Sep 2005, 4:10am

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Yeah, I was beaten to it. CDs with MP3s can hold about 200 songs a disc, and theses days Discmans never skip. Rechargable battery in a iPod? Radioshack has those.

Plus when I said limit, I meant total. An iPod holds what, 1,000 songs? A discman can have an infinit amount of songs. A discman plus six fully loaded CDs is more music than the iPod can hold. Not to mention nobody needs 1,000 songs anyway.

Buyan iPod is buying into a trend, just like when you were a little kid and you wanted the MEgazord. ONe day your iPod will be collecting dust, just like your megazord. At leas tthe Discman only cost me $20, not $200.
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Zeolahn wrote:


Plus when I said limit, I meant total. An iPod holds what, 1,000 songs? A discman can have an infinit amount of songs. A discman plus six fully loaded CDs is more music than the iPod can hold.
Damn holding all those CD's.. can't carry in your hands... along with that discman your going to need a European handbag... wink
Posted: Fri, 30th Sep 2005, 3:01pm

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Zeolahn wrote:

Yeah, I was beaten to it. CDs with MP3s can hold about 200 songs a disc, and theses days Discmans never skip. Rechargable battery in a iPod? Radioshack has those.

Plus when I said limit, I meant total. An iPod holds what, 1,000 songs? A discman can have an infinit amount of songs. A discman plus six fully loaded CDs is more music than the iPod can hold. Not to mention nobody needs 1,000 songs anyway.
You find me a CD that I don't have to buy at RadioShack or Best Buy *COUGH*RIP OFF STORES*COUGH* with 200 songs and I'll gladly buy it. Oh, and nice math.
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lol i dont see what the big deal is...

1) the Ipod"knock-off" on the radio shack looks like crap in my opinon....
2) try running or skiing with a discman (haha like that would even fit in a pocket).. it will skip
3) SIZE.. if it wont fit in my pocket - im not walking around with it...
4) load time - mp3 play right away + you get screens of songs you can run through to pick a song while listening to a song


MP3 players beat discmans is almost all respects. thats why discmans are becoming more rare. They are cheap because they are an almost obsolete technology.

"but they are cheaper and can hold more songs if i carry a ton of CD's..."

yeah and I can go get a VCR and VHS tapes for cheap and record my own stuff..... doesn't mean im going to....MP3 players simply out-do discmans.. ..

but if someone likes their discman and wants to use it - i say go ahead. Not everone can shell out the $$ for the newest stuff.
Its like arguing HDTVs over SDTVs.... sure HDTV is better.. no not everyone uses it.. too much $$$ for most

soon all discmans will be gone... and mp3 players will be as cheap

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Agreed magicman. Mp3 players save you money with (if we're talking creative or dell's stuff, not Ipod) batteries (i replaced 2 a day at work to keep my sony mp3 cd player happy), They never skip unless you drop them (out of my three sony mp3 cd players i've had, all of them skipped when a single scratch got on the cd's,) Size is alot nicer, sound quality tends to be alot better, superlong battery life on them (my creative goes for 24 hours on a three hour charge), capacity stomps mp3 cd players (200 songs sampled at 128, or thousands of songs sampled at 256 and above), overall navigation and easy of use. No waiting for the cd to spin up to hear the song, customs playlists, sex appeal...etc...

Cd's are absolutely turning to obsolete. The only people that say mp3 player aren't worth it or just a trend (that i know) either haven't used them or can't afford them. (or bought a crappy one that broke)

NOW, if they'd have made handheld DVD mp3 players, i might have gotten one of those...
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Magic_man12 wrote:

2) try running or skiing with a discman (haha like that would even fit in a pocket).. it will skip
I run with my Discman. Doesn't skip. And if you are listening to music while, skiing, you are stupid. Skiiing is definately one of those pass-times that require more than just your sense of sight, in addition to people that might be yelling "LOOK OUT THERE'S A BEAR RIDING AN AVALANCH BEHIND YOU".

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3) SIZE.. if it wont fit in my pocket - im not walking around with it...
Most CD Players have a handy little device that lets you latch it onto your belt! Wow!

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MP3 players beat discmans is almost all respects. thats why discmans are becoming more rare. They are cheap because they are an almost obsolete technology.
MP3 PLayers beat Discmans in no respects except that you don't have to carry CDs. Anything an MP3 player can accomplish, a CD Player can accomplish, except at a $15 price tag (oh, and maybe $10 for 20 blanks CDs). They are cheap because different technology which is "cooler" came out.

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yeah and I can go get a VCR and VHS tapes for cheap and record my own stuff..... doesn't mean im going to....MP3 players simply out-do discmans..
Well unless you have a $300 DVD recorder, the most useless technology, yes a VHS is the only logical way to record things off of TV. MP3 PLayers don't out-do Discmans. Give your MP3 player a virus or dunk it in water, all your music is gone. Discmans can't get a virus, and if they get ruine din water, you'll be forced to fork over $10 for a new one.

You see, the reason why DVDs have replaced VHS tapes is because DVDs accomplish things that VHS Tapes cannot. DVDs hold more data, six hours at a very high quality. Also, DVDs are cheaper. Whereas MP3 PLayer vs. CD player, the MP3 is more expensive and does only one thing better than the CD player.

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Damn holding all those CD's.. can't carry in your hands... along with that discman your going to need a European handbag... wink
I don't know about you, but I really dont' have trouble holding five CDs =D. So for the walk to my counter, and the walk to my car which has a CD player, I can handle 5 CDs with little effort.

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You find me a CD that I don't have to buy at RadioShack or Best Buy *COUGH*RIP OFF STORES*COUGH* with 200 songs and I'll gladly buy it. Oh, and nice math.
Um, anywhere that sells blank CDs. Any blank CD has the capacity of holding 200 songs at 256 something-or-another. Office Max has a sale right now for a 50 pack of CD-Rs for $9.99

Here is a big rant against the iPod

"Instead of continuing to question your values, I'm going to flat out say it - you don't need an iPod. They are a waste of your (parents') money. You don't need one, and you should be ashamed of yourself for being naive enough to think that you do. Every day I see people talking about how much they want an iPod. It reminds me of listening to kids on my old 4th grade playground saying, "I want a ZX Super Actionman so bad!" No, you didn't need the toy then and you don't need an iPod now.

What is an iPod? It's a little piece of metal that you plug headphones into and listen to music. I remember when I was ten we had a device that achieved the same goal - a Discman. You can buy them nowadays for... ohhh.. somewhere around the proximity of zero dollars. Discmans worked fine back in the day. Now that there is better technology, all of a sudden Discmans are worthless. But why? Discmans never got worse, technology got better. Worthless technology. The concept is to listen to music with no strings attached. Discmans accomplish this just fine.

The iPod is capable of holding ten thousand songs. Who needs that much? Of the thirteen million iPod owners in the world, how many have maxed out the space? Only 1425. Merely fourteen hundred people have successfully filled their iPod. And strangely enough, all of these kids were in the same room at the same time. It was at the annual GROTEFP (Geekiest Rejects on the Entire Fucking Planet) convention.

So you like iPods because they're smaller than CD players? That's reasonable, but how much is it worth to you to shave off a few precious inches?

The iPod ends up being ten square inches smaller than the average portable CD player. That means a total of about three inches squared.

It's only three inches. That's tiny, and for three hundred dollars? Penis enlargment pills offer you an extra three inches, and they're only forty or fifty bucks. Now honestly, would you rather have three inches less of audio player or a Discman and huge dick? Size won't even matter anymore because you can just hang the player from your enormous schlong.

Now that the size issue is settled, perhaps a Discman isn't the answer because you require more than 3 seconds of anti-skip. Oh wait! Discmans nowadays don't ever skip! Ever. That can't be what makes up for the drastic difference in money.

The iPod can hold 10,000 songs. The Discman uses CDs which hold twenty songs. Perhaps you don't want to carry 100 CDs everywhere you go. Oh wait! Discmans play mp3s now! That's 200 songs per CD! And unlike an iPod that maxes out at 10,000, Discmans have a removable source. So if we have 200 songs per CD and potentially infinite CDs, that's.. umm.. 200 infinity of songs? Let's put this into perspective.



iPods have rechargable batteries, but so does Ace Hardware store. A bunch of new technology and impressive statistics really don't mean much. When it comes down to it, an iPod isn't that great. So why could it possibly cost so much more money than Discmans, mini disk players, and cheaper mp3 players?

By buying an iPod, you're buying into a trend. You are paying hundreds of dollars to be a part of the new big thing and attempting to buy approval. This means one of two things: 1) you don't already have a big thing, or 2) you're stuck at the pre-adolescent stage of thinking having what someone want makes them your friend. Get a clue and get something else with your parent's Christmas fund." -ninjapirate.com
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Zeolahn wrote:


atom wrote:

You find me a CD that I don't have to buy at RadioShack or Best Buy *COUGH*RIP OFF STORES*COUGH* with 200 songs and I'll gladly buy it. Oh, and nice math.
Um, anywhere that sells blank CDs. Any blank CD has the capacity of holding 200 songs at 256 something-or-another. Office Max has a sale right now for a 50 pack of CD-Rs for $9.99
You're kidding, right? The most I've ever got a blank CD to hold with decent quality songs is 40 songs, and THAT's pushing it. 200 songs on a blank CD? Where you high when you burned it or something? Or do you have a unicorn that can magically make impossible things happen? I'd like to know. Seriously.
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Ahhh.. yes.. the Magical Unicorn..

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That was obscenely stupid. Oh, and thanks for joining my MySpace. I saw a kid that I thought was you the other day, then I realized I'm American and you're Canadian. So there's no way that was you.
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okay.. lets start.. lol

1) skiing with music on is done by ALOT of people. My jacket has a pocket specifically for it and a hole for the hearphones. ... but like you said.. you dont go skiing on a mountain basically lol - thats for recreational having fun skiing.

2) hand little device to clip to my belt... well... when im skiing I dont have a belt.. and I certainly dont want anythin attached to my waist that can fall off if i wipe out... - and there is a large difference between a CD sized peice of plastic clipped to your belt, than a smaller than your hand peice of plastic in your pocket.. not to mention the weight difference...

3)An MP3 player CAN accomplish more than a discman. sure the main idea is the same... but an MP3 player does more. (time, name of the song and duration at the same time - not a scrolling thing... easier control - i.e. the ipod's control thingy with the clip... and lets not forget.. just because they do the same.. doesn't mean they do it the same.. MP3 player can give better quality.. cd is stuck at 16 bit 44.1 hz max.

4) VHS is not the only logival way to record things off TV... I have a digital cable box with a 100+ gig hard drive.. Now why would I want to record a HD broadcast onto a VHS tape when I can program the box to do it for me hours before just be click 1 button...

5) I'd have trouble carrying 5 cds... if im wearing jeans and a t shirt... 2 front pockets.. 2 back.. both too small for a cd.. so im stuck with 1 cd

6) I agree blank cds are cheap... but using MP3's is still easier. no burning cd time.. no changing out cds....

7) I agree you dont need an iPod. all mp3 players are almost the same. some a little nicer to look at and have some cooler features.

cool I dont think people should be ashamed of themselves for wanting an ipod.. So they want the best of what there is for that product. should people who drive a ferrari or lambourghini feel ashamed because they have a nicer car? if someone lives in a 1,000,000 dollar house should they feel ashamed? I have a big HDTV.. way better than most tvs out there... do I feel ashamed? nope!

9) yes an ipod is a peice of metal you put headphones into to listen to music. When you were 10 they had something that did the same.. a discman... lets see.. 10 years ago there was say NES.. or Sega Genesis.... the object was to put in a game and play it.. they have gamecube, xbox and ps2 now... same purpose.. so why dont we use NES as much?? Older cars.. you put gas in them.. they go.. so why buy the new mustang or charger right? pfft. yes discmans accomplished no strings attached music listening... mp3 players do it better.. just like my xbox has better graphics than my nes or snes.

i'll skip forward cuz im at work.. lol

10) 10,000 songs on the ipod.. yah no one needs THAT much music... so here comes the chard... iPod vs Discman. potential music storage... well right away the discman loses.... it has NO storage. a discman uses CD's.. so your chart SHOULD be CDs vs iPod... okay say you have 10000 CDs.... Why do you need that much music? and if you did.. doesn' tit make more sense to have an iPod??????????? *cough* yes *cough*

and 11) mp3 players are easier on batteries and you get more life because there is no motor to spin.. no cd to make move.. period.


you were saying?

-MAGIC
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ben3308 wrote:


You're kidding, right? The most I've ever got a blank CD to hold with decent quality songs is 40 songs, and THAT's pushing it. 200 songs on a blank CD? Where you high when you burned it or something? Or do you have a unicorn that can magically make impossible things happen? I'd like to know. Seriously.
*whispers* umm ben... you can burn MP3 data files onto a blank cd... so like 3.5-5 megs each.. times 600-800 megs free on a cd...... and newer discmans can play them like that....... just a bit slow when reading


-MAGIC
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I thought i'd also point out that decent brand (sony, pana) discman mp3 players aren't "$10". Maybe for a crappy walmart brand one that will fall apart and sound bad, but not for a name brand sony mp3 walkman. That costs $50. and they work for about a couple months, thanks to sony shafting they're customers lately on there less expensive electronics.

Also, I Definately Dig having thousands of songs on my mp3 player. I tend to have extremely broad musical tastes, so whenever i want to listen to any given song i've ever liked, all i do is scroll down and push play. Brilliant.
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ben3308 wrote:

That was obscenely stupid.
Big man. Big words. This is why arguments start... being disrespectful.

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Wow...200 songs on a cd?!

AHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!

Get real man....Maybe that magical unicorn wdy had can make those dreams come true...
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i hope your joking...?


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Shuting up right now I'm not causing ANOTHER pointless arguement...I never read your post sorry magic man
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Still. It doesn't matter what you propose. There is no way in the universe you can beat the price of the discmen. Does a 10-20 second difference between searching through songs REALLY make that much of a difference?

Discmen forever.
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Buying blank CDs to burn WILLL eventually break even on the iPod price, no matter how cheap a Discman is. You just got served.
Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2005, 2:45am

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Office Max has a sale right now for a 50 pack of CD-Rs for $9.99
50 x 200 ~ 10,000 songs for $10.

When someone outdoes the price of an iPod with CD's, let me know. That will surely be an entry in the Guiness Book of World Records. biggrin
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ben3308 wrote:

...The most I've ever got a blank CD to hold with decent quality songs is 40 songs, and THAT's pushing it...
Okay, now read

ben3308 wrote:

Buying blank CDs to burn WILLL eventually break even on the iPod price, no matter how cheap a Discman is. You just got served.
There you go. C'mon, you can't get 200 songs of iPod quality on a CD. Maybe 12. Served.
Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2005, 4:05am

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Just be cool like me and buy the ever popular and clearly growing market that is minidiscs.
Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2005, 5:12am

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Minidiscs are awesome. Especially if you want to record external audio.
Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2005, 5:31am

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yeah that mp3players pretty old I saw it back like a year ago at office depot.
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You know, it seems every time someone posts a topic aoubt an electronic device, it turns into a stupid debate. Can't you guys just say, "I like my discman." or the other way around without saying yours is better? Oh well, that's just my opinion.



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C'mon, you can't get 200 songs of iPod quality on a CD. Maybe 12. Served.
Did you forget that you can put mp3's on them again?
Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2005, 3:08pm

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Dude, ben, the reason you can only fit 12 songs is because you are burning them from a music playing program in order for the to work on CD players. Notice on the blank CD it says something like "20 songs or 800 something MB." We all know 20 songs do not take up 800 MB. They are counting in the amount of data it takes for the CD to be universal among CD players. If you just drag the mp3 files to the CD, you can fit around 300 songs on it. If I am not mistaken, that is why the Diskman is different from other CD players. Served. I think.
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To be honest, I think this is a very silly discussion.

Buying an iPod will not greatly improve your standard of living, and nor will it destroy it.

The same goes for using a discman, minidisk, or whatever else you can think of.

If it's good for you, then fine. I'm very happy with my MP3 cd player. It does mean I can carry around a lot of music, and it wasn't expensive. If you get the same from using an iPod, then hooray.

Let's all have a group hug, chaps.

Cheers,
Arktic.
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ben3308 wrote:

You just got served.

ben3308 wrote:

Served.
Man can't we all just get along and have a civilized conversation?
Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2005, 6:33pm

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I said that because I just want to end an argument. I wanted to show people this cool new iPod looking thing, and this HUGE debare about iPods and Discmans starts. The mp3 player in question isn't even involved in the discussion.
Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2005, 9:01pm

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That is true, we could at least debate about ipods and mp3 players without taking walk and discmans into the discussion.
Posted: Sun, 2nd Oct 2005, 7:35pm

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ben3308 wrote:



I remember AlamDV1. I didn't have an account then, because I just watched movies from the cinema rather than posting. But I was there. I was there, alright.

Yeah, and Im Jesus.
Posted: Sun, 2nd Oct 2005, 10:05pm

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Well, those screens were definetly cool to me, cause I joined when chromonator had already come out, I think. I guess that's since I just joined a year ago.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 1:37am

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haha it's funny to watch everyone argue over this but who really cares. Why would you get so upset because someone likes their minidisc player more than an mp3 player? Vise Versa. I like my iPod because I don't want to carry around a ton of cds and i like it's size and not switching discs. If you like your discs good for you. For me it was worth the money. If you don't think it's worth it cool. It's pathetic how easily angered everyone gets.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 1:48am

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AcjPictures wrote: Why would you get so upset because someone likes their minidisc player more than an mp3 player?

I agree. nobody really needs to argue, as long as you like what you've got. If you don't like what you've get, get something else. It's stupid to waste our time posting pointless arguments that get locked or die down in the end.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 1:51am

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film freak wrote:

I agree. nobody really needs to argue, as long as you like what you've got.
Err...Right, thats why you have been in this heated debate posting immediatly after some on replys...That makes no sense...

I think Ben has shown us a really cool product...This post wasn't meant for argueing but comments on the mp3 player...I personally do not give a sh__ if you like a cd player or an mp3 player!

For God's sake can we please just talk about the PRODUCT not a pointless arguement?
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Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 12:44pm

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Nice.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 6:48pm

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On to the topic...


I went into radio shack today and saw one of these. It was pretty slick looking, im not sure if I like the red on black. But 5th generation Ipods and 3rd generation Dell Dj's are coming within the next few months, so I recommended saving for those and getting one of those.



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Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 9:25pm

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Fine, here's my opinion. I don't think it looks that great, I like my ipod and don't plan on ever buying an mp3 player.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 10:04pm

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I think we all need a LONG rest from this topic...maybe sometime next month or so some guy will bring it up again...heh...Sorry Zea it's hard to resist the power of the manecing teletubies!

I don't know which one I should get my dad for Christmas...An iPod? Or a really cool knock-off? I think I'm going with the iPod since my dad is SURE he wants one...(Don't argue about that)

Thanks for the treat Ben biggrin
Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2005, 10:16pm

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Get a Dell DJ. They are the same thing with ipod, except more storage and accessories for cheaper price. Check this:

30 GB Dell DJ, Dock, Leather Case, Wall Charger, Warranty, and Usb Cable for $300.. or


20 GB Ipod and a Usb Cable for $300.

Your choice.

Both are coming out with new generations at the same time, so im not sure how that will stack up.


-Z