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Ulikly Hero

Posted: Wed, 5th Oct 2005, 10:51am

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story line mateo falls a sleep on the job gets shot but dosent die
most likly hero steps in to save the day but gets killed. normoly that
would be the end of our story. but our unlikly hero who was wereinga vest saves the day this not so dum after all
because the killer ran out of ammo, so now the comedy releaf
gets to kill the bad guy and walks away with his head held high. the end
camara used WAS 3ccd panasonic PV-GS120 our bad actors were
a guatemalen dude by the name mateo the best the no money can buy
our next cast go,s by the name of Art rojas he the in the white shirt. the killer was played
by me, that is i Carlos Aguayo
film on location La Puente Califorina 20 mile from Hollywood
at my store on main st music by korn, Ramstein, slipknot,
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Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 12:39am

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Ok, first off, I hate to bring this up like every other person does, but is this really 5-rating material? I mean, sure you can be proud of your work, but in contrast to other films on here such as "No!" or "The Last Days", is this even 3-material? I'm not so sure, but hey, it's your vote and you're entitled to it, I guess. Still, try not to rate all your movies 5 until you at least hear a similar response from the FXHome community. Why? Generally it reflects bad on you as a member to vote your own movies 5 before everyone else does, and causes them to unconsciously lower their liking of your movie. (Trust me, I've been there. I think we all have.)

Ok, and now onto some stuff to say.......

-Cinematography- overall decent, and some shots I really liked. I liked the slanted-cam style in the walking shots, but it was ineffective because of the lack of action in the shots, and it was slanted far too much.

-Editing-Sub-par. There wasn't anything genuinely special about the editing, but it wasn't that off or horrible.

-Acting- Meh. No wait.........................ah. meh.

Oh, and please use correct grammar and spelling. If you're from the U.S. you should know how to write/speak english, it doesn't take terribly long to go-over and spell check what you write, and it's oh so much easier for the rest of us to read.

Cheers,
Atom

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Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 1:08am

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"...to unconsciously lower there liking of you movie."

Atom, I'm thinking that perhaps you shouldn't be lecuturing people about proper English grammar and spelling. Stay with your strengths, reviewing just the movie.

As for the movie itself, that whole shoot out was implausible. I will throw you a bone and say that I thought the box climbing was creative.
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 1:59am

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Rating: -1

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Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 3:57am

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aguayo wrote:

your point of veiw means little to me! none of you so called filmmakers
has what it take yet. that takes time and lot of effert which (WE)all
still lack, i dont think i didin,t did half bad for my first time filming
i will get better that i assure you! im a fast learnner. have a nice evening
Calm down, man. All you've received thus far is more-than-constructive criticism, and I highly suggest taking it positively. Negativity will get you nowhere on FXHome except off the forums. I also suggest reviewing the Movie Archive and observing some of the top movies before making such a statement as " none of you so called filmmakers has what it take yet." Seriously, man, we are all here to help you, but when you reject it, everybody will just..............stop commenting.
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 4:02am

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Aguayo
first...try not to respond negatively to any feedback you get. It will only draw the wrath of others. Even if it is demeaning, you have to ignore it. Every good film will always have someone who doesn't like it. But...take any feedback and try to use it to improve upon any future projects.

From my point of view, it was an interesting first attempt. My suggestion, though, is to avoid doing plain action scenes with no plot. Try to develop a story and build the script around it. So many people on here want to shoot a quick action scene that has no story to it. That's no fun and really doesn't display overall talent.

I did like how you tried to implement different camera angles, but feel that there were too many tilted angles that didn't quite feel right. Try storyboarding your next project and see which angles play out the best and provide the best transitions from one shot to the next. Shoot each scene with multiple angles.

Now...the effects. I have to say that I'm spoiled because I have a very good editor working with me that is a dang good artist. Doing effects work is a labor of love that can eat up quite a bit of time. Your pistol effects were wayyy to animated. Animated to the point of being unbelievable. I would love to give a tip here, but I'd rather leave that up to someone more qaulifed in that arena.

I did really like your choice of music It worked well.
I also think you did a pretty good job with lighting for your first attempt.

In the end, I give your film a 3/5. Good job, and hope you do well on your next project
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 4:28am

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When i first saw that a movie finally got 5 stars on something, i was shocked. at first glance, it seemed that many people had voted on it and it still had a perfect rating. i was psyched to see it.

I thought that, even though they looked a little strange, the muzzle flashes were the best i have yet seen posted here. this is just my opinion, but i loved how they came out of the gun, and had smoke, instead of just flashing.

I was, however, dissapointed to see this was not the film that finally beat art of the saber in the listings. its just one that its maker rated 5/5. i grant you that it looked like you really worked on it, and probably had a lot of fun with it, but rating it 5/5 before anybody else has a chance to rate it?

I actually submited a movie at the same time you did, and got about 6 comments before i even got back to my computer. i still haven't rated it, becuase there really is not point in doing so. the whole point is not to get to the top of the standings by voting yourself, but to impress others and have them vote you up.

all that said, i still really liked your movie. I think it has a lot of potentiol.
so make some more movies, and i can wait to see them.

also, there are all of these pictures of people over cool backrounds, like the helicopter. did i miss somthing, or was that in the movie? i didn't see it.

i hope this post was helpful to you.
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 6:04am

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aguayo wrote:

your point of veiw means little to me!
Then go ahead and leave this website. If you're not going to talk to, listen, or regard anything anyone says, then why are you even posting a movie? Just leave, with comments like that I don't know who'd want you here.

aguayo wrote:

none of you so called filmmakers
has what it take yet.
Who are you to judge people you know nothing about? Besides financial means and maybe a few more years of age, I think I do have a certain skill and understanding of how things work in the film industry, both aesthetically and technically. I know how to light a scene and operate a camera, pretty darn well , too, if I do say so myself. "So Called Filmmakers"? Yeah, okay. At least I'm capable of spelling things correctly. I don't know any 35 year old of a sound mind that would ever make the syntactical mistakes you've made. Your posts were sloppily written, especially considering that your primary language is English. That's just pathetic.

aguayo wrote:

that takes time and lot of effert which (WE)all
still lack
Do you really know that? I know for a fact people like Sollthar and JohnCarter have gone on to do major motion pictures. I'm only 16 and I still could've put forth enough effort to be a pro in the industry. You know nothing about me or my brother, or anybody on FXHome, for that matter, how dare you prejudge?

You're 35 years old. Grow up and get a life, rather than arguing with teenagers about how much they know.
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 7:05am

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Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 11:57am

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Im sorry but that 'movie' was far from fantastic.
Where to begin? The lack of plot (some guys shot each other...hmmmm)
The 'ninja-stealth-person' looked clumsy, half the time he couldn't even find his gun, and would he really leave his main weapon on a wobbly box?
The shoot-out was not convincing (chap in the white T-shirt just walked around, and the other guy with the pistol 'waiting' round the corner looked stoned) and you shouldn't have lingered on his totally unharmed 'dead' body for as long as you did, cos he sure as heck didn't look very dead to me. Music was so-so and the odd angles were origional, but what was with the muzzle flashes? Long and pixelated.

Must try harder.
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 2:38pm

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I love the MUSIC. Finally a film with some good music on it. As for the effects?? They were ok. But the muzzle flashed could have been better and bullets hitting off cardboard? Make the bullets hitting stuff that can acully repel a bullet.

Awsome Music though
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 3:01pm

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aguayo wrote:

it just some clown that think he or they know every thing
im 16 that man in the film is my dad
ill except (constructive criticism )
what i said dose not reflect on the pro,s
im here to learn more about the art
who knows i mite have something to contribute
Seriously, SPELL CHECK, bro. And exactly who's the clown? I think your comments are fairly premature, seeing as how you've obviously watched no ones else's movies on here, and have no basis of comparing your movie to others.
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 7:59pm

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Why is that only one out of 8 people rated this 5, and about 3 rated it 0, and it is still on the top of the standings? its still number one on the movie listing charts.
Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005, 10:04pm

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http://www.aguayoinc.com/

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Posted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005, 12:33am

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First of all, do you ever run out of ammo? you might wanna show some reloading. Second, your effects were pretty good except that your muzzle flashes were huge and it seemed like your pistol was actually a shotgun. Nice blowback guns though. I liked the music and camera angles.
Posted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005, 1:04am

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WOrk on ur mooding of ur films.

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Posted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005, 8:30am

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Posted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005, 11:33am

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aguayo, when you first submit a movie, its on the "new movie" list for a while. A lot of people watch these. In fact, i would think most people found it this way. I did.

However, I agree that the combination of it being new and giving it a high rating did make a lot of people watch it, even if they had a not-so-positive reaction sometimes.

I really would love to see whatever you make next. just dont rate it next time.
Posted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005, 7:26pm

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aguayo wrote:

if i wouldent have dun that you probly never see my video
it would be lost in the 450 videos out there
im mean who looks at every video out there.
You do.

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=197161#197161
Posted: Sun, 9th Oct 2005, 5:51am

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1/5...sloppy. good luck with the next one. try to use the camera to truly accomplish the feel and mood of the video. Read up on cinematography and forget the zooms and stagnant camera angles (the tilting thing...is ONLY a distraction). i've got faith in you. good luck!

keep on keeping on
chase
Posted: Sun, 9th Oct 2005, 9:43am

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This is going to sound harsh.

PLEASE...learn to use a spellchecker or SOMETHING...I can barely decipher your friggin' posts....If want to communicate with people who speak american (Yes, american. It IS different than "English") , then please take the time to not make it near impossible to read everything you post.

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Posted: Sun, 9th Oct 2005, 10:15pm

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What the hell does that have to do with my video!
You must be an angry little man with an angry little pen
25 bad remarks you want to try for 30
others that posted remarks were a lot more contructive ,
what ever my son said dose not reflect on me .
or ? do i need to spell check this to !!

get a grip and stict to the subject

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Posted: Sun, 9th Oct 2005, 10:20pm

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Bryce007 wrote:

I can barely decipher you friggin' posts....
Whoops! "Your", man, not "you".

Bryce007 wrote:

...communicate with people who speak american...
Speak American? I didn't know that was a language. But maybe you're referring to something other than a nationality, because you didn't capitalize the 'a'.
smile
I'm not being jerky, nor do I think you should correct your minute typos (because those small syntax errors are still decipherable), just maybe write everything correctly next time you correct someone on spelling.

You so crazy, Bryce. You so crazy.
Posted: Sun, 9th Oct 2005, 11:31pm

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I don't think it's really necessary to be spelling Nazi's about this, no one but Agueyo's typing is cryptic on a hieroglyphic scale though provided a message is conveyed then it shouldn't matter. I don't have perfect grammar skills and English is my first language.

I'm just a little concerned about your attitude Ageuyo, users have already pointed out that FXhome is meant to be a community from which everyone can benefit and criticism plays a big role in the path of improvement. The movie you have submitted here is pretty poor, there is no argueing that. So my advice to you would be to listen to what people have to say, even if sometimes it hurts a little to hear it.

As for voting your own movie a 5, that's just a nail in your own coffin really. If you look closely on the cinema page you'll see that submissions to the cinema made over the last ten days are listed, and most users just watch those. Also, wanting your movie to get attention is not wise for someone so touchy about criticism. wink

In terms of movie advice, I think you should sit down and write something. A movie doesn't need to have dialogue so you can get away without using people that can act but it is important for there to be a story or a purpose to what your characters are doing. Your film "Unlikly Hero" has none of that which makes it a movie less coherent than Rammsteins song lyrics.

After you've done that, plan how your movie should be structured. Which shots are important and which areas of the filming you feel would benefit from being thought of on the spot. It's often easier to begin with (and less storyboarding/planning) to leave "open" areas of cinematography inbetween important planned shots. What you film on the day is what you take into editing with you afterall, and it's always best to have too much than too little.

Then comes the editing, depending on the genre of your movie or whats happening within it research camera tricks and ideas which reinforce your movie. The Bourne Identity and Equilibrium both feature excellent fight and pre-fight cinematography which I imagine you would benefit from. Scary films often demonstrate textbook ways of building up an audience for a climax.

And lastly, research your special effects. A gun should look and sound like a gun firing and not a toy, and whilst your effort is noted with EffectsLab, they don't look like firing guns. Researching this includes the sound too.

I hope that wasn't too scathing though I think it's important that you realise although none or very few are professional filmmakers it doesn't mean that we are not knowledgeable in areas of film which you can benefit from. I look forwards to your next movie.

-Hybrid.