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A request...editable directory locations

Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2005, 5:39am

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Much as I like FXHome products, I'm something of a nitpicker when it comes to file arrangment and my computer. The biggest flaw I find I do NOT like about your current product lineup is the inability to modify my directory settings.

Certain files are directed to the "My Documents" folder where I'd really rather have them located elsewhere, at my own personal discretion. I really don't know the implications of it, but... would it be too much to ask for a possible option to edit file directories in subsequent updates?

Or... is this a feature that I don't know of...? Or...?
Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2005, 6:13am

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A Pickle wrote:

Certain files are directed to the "My Documents" folder where I'd really rather have them located elsewhere, at my own personal discretion.
The files that EffectsLab stores under My Documents don't take up too much room, from what I recall. I'm pretty sure you would've seen it, but just in case (and for anyone else reading), EffectsLab allows you to change the location of its temp preview folder from within its Edit...Preferences dialog.

Chromanator doesn't have an interface to change its temp render folder, so it will always store its temp render files under your My Documents folder. This will take up some space. A while back I wrote a little program that can change this folder location, as well as some other settings that Chromy supports but does not have an interface for.
Posted: Wed, 26th Oct 2005, 4:41pm

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The files that EffectsLab stores under My Documents don't take up too much room, from what I recall. I'm pretty sure you would've seen it, but just in case (and for anyone else reading), EffectsLab allows you to change the location of its temp preview folder from within its Edit...Preferences dialog.
That's fine and dandy and all, but there's a folder labelled "FXHome" in my "My Documents" directory. I understand that it may not take up much space, but... like I said... I'm pretty nitpicky about such things. I just like my computer to be organized in the fashion that I choose, and, frankly, editable directory options are the best things since sliced bread to me. If it sounds a bit odd or perhaps eccentric, I apologize, but... that's me.

The program you've coded is a definite help in remedying the Chromanator folder from the "My Documents" directory, and for that I thank you very much. Even still, it would be greatly appreciated, by me and I'm certain MANY more if the FXHome crew could add editable directory dialogs for ALL the directories each of their respective applications create.

Thanks, though, that is a big help. biggrin
Posted: Wed, 26th Oct 2005, 11:41pm

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I didn't even know the cache existed until I checked the folder and there was 10 gigabytes of tga files sitting in randomly numbered folders. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 12:57am

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Lithium Kraft wrote:

I didn't even know the cache existed until I checked the folder and there was 10 gigabytes of tga files sitting in randomly numbered folders. biggrin
Wow.

Yeah, I really don't care about used space... I just... I just want my "My Documents" folder to be organized!! frown

It's... just a rant. There's Roxio stuff... Adobe stuff... 3D Studio Max stuff... Skype stuff and FXHome stuff ALL OVER my "My Documents" folder. I've refrained from calling it litter out of respect for Adobe, Autodesk, and CSB Digital, but still...

...Really, it's my computer and I'd like to know and have a say in where stuff goes.

There's this Roxio file, "PmStudio.cfg" just sitting in my "My Documents" folder. Why the hell is that there? I didn't make it. It's not a saved project. It's an autonomously created file, which I have no use with and therefore could JUST as easily be moved to the "My Documents" folder.

Similarly, I've got "mmcInst.log" and "scanfax.log" in my plain old root directory!! Why aren't those LOG files (created BY the program) in the same Program Files folder that their parent programs were installed to?

On the same tangent, WHY do applications AUTOMATICALLY assume they can overtake another program's functions? Nero 7 Premium is NOT what I want to use to play mp3 files.

Why does Quicktime start when my computer does? Well... actually, I beat Quicktime into submission. All the same, why do other programs insist on starting when my computer does? I can fix this through Run "msconfig" but most users don't know about that OR how to use it.

I'm sorry, but that's a big problem I have with a LOT of software. I give my commendations to RealPlayer, because when it asks what files you'd like it to be the default player for, it lists the ones your other media player has. Adobe's also damn good with user-definable file pathways.

I'd like to see more of that, particularly from this place.

Regards,
-Pikl
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 1:12am

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Hey Pickle, I've had that program-taking-over thing in the past, and this is how I fixed it:

Right click on any file that shares the extension you want to change the default program.


Choose from a list or browse for one on your own.


It's quite annoying, and some programs like Winamp have programs that will secretly run in your taskbar, immediately switching defaults back to that program if they are ever changed. You can end those processes though with the good ol' ctrl-alt-del.
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 1:37am

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Oh, I know.

My programs now run with all the programs I wanted them to open with. That bugs me though, too. Nero 7 Premium is a optical media writing / copying application, not an "annex-my-computer-and-everything-on-it" app.

I got all my programs fine. "Msconfig" is better for removing pesky Systray icons that startup. Muwhaha.
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 1:38am

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WAIT, HOLY CRAP is that YOUR MY DOCUMENTS FOLDER?!?
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 6:49pm

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I told you it's a complete mess.

4 years of use and it hasn't been cleaned once. It's worse than my sock drawer.
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 9:06pm

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I thought I had it bad... I'm sorry man. That would drive me nuts.

That's one of my biggest pet peeves, is the user's inability to direct files to specified paths after installation. No offense to CSB-Digital or the products they make, but this is a right that should be given to the user from ALL software. It's his or her computer, and his or her piece of software after they pay for it and stay within the licensing realms. I see no reason why the user shouldn't be allowed to at least have the option to change it before, during, and after installation.

-Pikl

PS: You running 2000, Lithium Kraft?
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 9:29pm

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the My Documents folder is the worst folder ever.

I can't even remove any of those since they're needed for the programs to run.
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 9:36pm

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Alcohol 120%? Hmmm.... wink

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Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 9:46pm

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Seriously. Applications shouldn't do that without first consulting the user. I'm writing a letter to Bill Gates.
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 9:47pm

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rogolo - yeah, what? It's a CD/DVD burning program...

A Pickle - I think Vista does, not sure though.
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 9:51pm

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Ah, good ol' Bill Gates. He'll listen to people who tell him the faults of his OS! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 9:55pm

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I think Bill Gates is a pretty respectable person. XP Pro fricken' rules. If my letter gets through, it's well worth a look -- organized program installations have signifcance far beyond a nicer looking "My Documents" folder.

And seriously, what does Alcohol 120% have to do with it?
Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005, 11:26pm

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rogolo wrote:

Ah, good ol' Bill Gates. He'll listen to people who tell him the faults of his OS! biggrin
lol, this is gonna turn into a debate but....

Ah, good old Apple fanatics smile Bill is just a nerd with tons of money that isn't worth peanuts in front of an audience.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 12:25am

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But he still has money.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 12:30am

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I believe that Mac is superior to Windows, but Windows has more programs and games and a built-in "fanbase" to go off of. I still am forced to use Windows (as I am now) because I am more familiar with much of the stuff on it.

I respect the OS, but you gotta admit: XP (and Windows in general) is EXTREMELY vulnerable to viruses and there is a lot that needs to be improved in future versions (i.e. Longhorn).
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 12:53am

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Lithium Kraft wrote:

But he still has money.
What's wrong with that? He puts out very good products.

rogolo wrote:

I respect the OS, but you gotta admit: XP (and Windows in general) is EXTREMELY vulnerable to viruses and there is a lot that needs to be improved in future versions (i.e. Longhorn).
Well, I'll not get into the Mac vs. Windows debate at the behest of the mods, but in defense of Windows, Mac OS X would be as troubled by problems were it the most proliferous desktop-user operating system out there, too. There are ALREADY viruses out there for the Macintosh, if Mac OS X were on 95% of all user PC's, it'd be in the same shape.

Secondly, Windows on it's own does surprisingly well. The firewall that comes with Windows isn't this peice of paper that most people think it is. Most ports aren't closed, they're "stealthed" by the Windows Firewall. My second desktop at home runs only the Windows Firewall, and it hasn't suffered a hiccup since.

Finally, it really isn't hard to secure a Windows-run PC. Spybot: Search and Destroy and Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware Beta 1 make an unstoppable force against adware and spyware, while Free AVG and/or BitDefender 8 Free Edition make for excellent free antivirus solutions. I've never had a problem with my PC. It has been such a pleasure to work on, it's... it's really gonna be kind of sad when I'm forced to upgrade...

Anyways. One thing I do agree with you on, though, is Microsoft doesn't have a very good security... um... "division," if you will. In my opinion, they need to (and are going to) release a Microsoft anti-virus scanner. By the time Vista rolls around, the Windows Firewall, the Windows AntiSpyware, and the Windows AntiVirus applications should be fully integrated into the Windows Security center. Microsoft should also be releasing security updates every few days, as opposed to every month with the release of Windows Updates.

In addition, I feel that Windows should come with an "Installation Manager" of sorts. Installations would take place only through the use of .msi files, no more .exe installation files. When said .msi file would be run, it would take you through the installation process as usual, until it began copying files. From here, the .msi file would send each file through the Installation Manager, and the Installation Manager (as opposed to the setup file itself) would write the necessary files to the hard drive. The .msi file would tell the Installation Manager the product ID (required), the vendor ID (optional, but recommended) and the location and name of all files, folders, and subfolders that the program needs. ALL files seeking permission to be written to the hard disk would HAVE to go through the Installation Manager.

This would be advantageous in that, if, for some reason future programs didn't give the user the ability to alter certain, utilized file pathways, he or she could simply tell the Installation Manager to perform a move command on a specified file or folder (and all subfolders), and he or she could also tell it to default all files being written to the previous location to simply be moved to the final, user-defined location.

Hot damn. I'm a genius.

This does have connotations to the thread, though. Better organization of a computer, particularly when this "organization" requires user input will lead to users knowing what goes where. As outlandish as it may sound, I know where to get anything I need. I very rarely need the Windows "Search" function. Though I've not had it happen in a long time, I'd be able to INSTANTLY notice a "new" folder that cropped up in my "Program Files" directory.

So, there you have it. User-defined installation directories and application-accessed directories are a benefit to computing as a whole. So how about it, guys? Editable file pathways? Please? biggrin

...My two cents.
-Pikl

PS: Dells rule. biggrin

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Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 1:08am

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Pickle, I was referring to Pooky, not you.

I disliked Macs when I was a younger kid, because all of the fun games were for Windows. And I have a sort of respect for macs, but I'd buy a PC over macs anytime. I say this because I just don't like the interface. Sure, it's cool and all, and everything has a lowercase i for a prefix which is kind of cool in a way, but there's something about the inferface that I absolutely hate.

And Macs are not virus-proof, they just have less viruses made to pinpoint them than Windows does.

(and if you haven't heard yet - Apple is changing all of its computers to intel chips now instead of powerpc! OMG!)
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 1:23am

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Overall, I respect both OS's, but I support one more than the other. They each have their respective pros and cons.

--See Tarn, we can have a civil, nom-flaming, intellegent debate of personal computer preferences. biggrin --
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 2:11am

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rogolo wrote:

Overall, I respect both OS's, but I support one more than the other. They each have their respective pros and cons.
Definitely.

And, truth be told, I'd really like to own a Mac just... kind of to get the feel of it. I wasn't given a "fair" chance, all things considered... but... I feel like I'd like one just to give it a shot. I think I'll still be buying a Dell Inspiron sometime in the near future, but I think it'd be nice to have a Mac, just for tasting both sides.

All the same, there are things Microsoft could really improve upon in it's customer-business relationship, and it's products as a whole. Overall, though, I really do respect Microsoft and Apple, and respectively, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 2:29am

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i've been running a powerbook g4 for about a year, and before that I had a Toshiba laptop. both machines had about the same stats ( Ram, ghz etc), except since the mac was newer, it was a little better.

There is no comparison. after getting this machine, Im a believer in mac. I would never, EVER switch back to pc. Admittedly, its a little annoying to not be able to use half the programs floating around on the internet, but trust me, there are still plently.

The thing about the mac OS i like the best, is that to run the basic things you wan't from a pc, like word processing, printing, writing cds and dvds, photo editing and organization, and really basic video editing, every thing is built into the OS. I was shocked when i was at a friends and he was gonna burn me a cd of somthing, HE DIDNT KNOW HOW TO DO IT. i tried as well, but could't figure something so simple out. maybe he just had a really BAD machine, but i was surprised to see that there was no "click this to burn" button the way there is on mac

still, i respect people wanting windows instead, but i think that to run windows really well, you need to have a better machine than if you just had mac.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 3:33am

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Hey Pickle and Sgb4622,

I too have a G4 (but its an iBook) and my Windows computer is a Dell Inspiron. They're fairly solid machines, and the price is just where you want it to be. One thing that I have found that is increasingly frustrating me from my transisition from Windows to Mac is that Mac has no Paint-like program built-in so I can just pop a picture in and make minor adjustments to it, or make a quick avatar, or crop a picture, or whatever. With iPhoto, it takes about 5-10 minutes to crop a picture pretty much how you want it, but in MSPaint, it takes a minute at most.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 3:41am

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rogolo wrote:

Hey Pickle and Sgb4622,
One thing that I have found that is increasingly frustrating me from my transisition from Windows to Mac is that Mac has no Paint-like program built-in so I can just pop a picture in and make minor adjustments to it, or make a quick avatar, or crop a picture, or whatever. With iPhoto, it takes about 5-10 minutes to crop a picture pretty much how you want it, but in MSPaint, it takes a minute at most.
I deffinately know exactly what you mean, but their is a program, which is free, called Graphicconverter, hosted on the apple website.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/imaging_3d/graphicconverter.html

It is just like MS Paint, only a lot better. I use it a lot for the quick jobs you described.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 4:00am

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Sweet! How could I not have known about that? The evil alien-men must have zapped my brain into a million little pieces. Or something like that....
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 5:30am

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i've been running a powerbook g4 for about a year, and before that I had a Toshiba laptop. both machines had about the same stats ( Ram, ghz etc), except since the mac was newer, it was a little better.
It really depends on how you look at it. A 1.4 GHz Pentium 4 goes much slower than a 1.4 GHz Pentium III, and a 1.425 GHz G4. A 1.4 GHz AMD Athlon XP will probably outperform 'em all, and a 1.4 GHz Pentium M will probably smoke the Athlon. All processors are not created equally.

Part of the reason Apple is switching to Intel CPU's (allegedly) is because IBM failed to produce a good mobile processor. The G4 is a relic of the Pentium III-era, and, although it's scaled fairly high, it really doesn't match the speed offered by the Turion64 and the Pentium M, both of which also have excellent battery life.

Dual core G5 desktops seem pretty rad, though I'm pretty sure the dual-core Opteron-powered workstations would give them a good run for the money, as well.

All in all, it really depends on what you want to work with. Windows has a lot of nifty little surprises. Built-in FTP, for one. Anyways.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 10:49am

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Apparently (and this is only a rumour) the new Intel CPUs coming out this Christmas can overclock to 5GHz on air cooling.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 3:31pm

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pooky wrote:

Apparently (and this is only a rumour) the new Intel CPUs coming out this Christmas can overclock to 5GHz on air cooling.
Yeah. They're getting a die-shrink, and as a matter of CPU history the smaller the transistors, the less heat you have, and therefore the better your overclockery shenanigans can go. biggrin

Still, though, a guy in Japan got a Prescott core up to 7.3 GHz stably. I thought that was pretty darned impressive.
Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005, 8:18pm

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Yep, and that was on Phase cooling. Currently youd be lucky to hit 4Ghz with air cooling, but if you can get 5GHz with these new ones, Phase cooling will probably allow it to get to like.... 8.5GHz? Maybe I'm wrong though.

Phase cooling is a funky way to get your CPU to -40'C that costs around 850$, for those that don't know.