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What cams do you all use? A mini-guide!

Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 10:33am

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Chrislad

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Hello everyone! I just thought I'd start a topic that I think *crosses fingers* hasnt been done before. If it has, then Im sorry! This question is to all users on this forum. I want to do this to get a bit of a guide for people on benefits of cams and price etc...
What cam do you use?
How much did it cost?
What are the benefits?
What are the downfalls?
What DV cam would you like to own?

Thanks for listening y'all! lol
Bye for now!
Crs
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 10:39am

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Ohh, Hello...
I dont really get half of whats said there not so good in english but....

1. I use a MiniDV Pal Panasonic NV-DA1
2.It cost: 20000 Swedish crowns = $2000
3.Ohuu?? rolleyes
4.Ohuu?? rolleyes
5.Im happy with this cam, I probably buy a new cam when i get older (only 14)

Hope this help a little! biggrin
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 10:45am

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Animaster

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I'l make a poll for it biggrin
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 12:55pm

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In my Hometown in Germany is a Studio, where you can get everything for Video-Making if you´re a pupil.

I use there the Canon MV 450i.
You don´t need the effects, that almost all of the DV Cams for Home Use have, because you can make it better on your Computer. So you just need a DV Cam with an good Objective.
The Canon MV 450i isn´t expensive, and it´s good for the Start. It has an Firewire In and Out.

My dream is the Canon X-1. It´s the only shoulder DV Cam for Home Use i know. But it´s very expensive (~5000€)!

In my opinion Sony Cams are a bit more expensive then other.
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 3:46pm

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anonymous

I own a Cannon XL1. Probably one of the best camera's on the market. I bought it for the interchangable lenses. I use the panaramic lense for sporting events that I shoot here in my home town.

Riese
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 4:18pm

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anonymous

I use a sony digital 8 it cost 700
It works for me.
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 6:29pm

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anonymous

I Have the "new" canon MVX1i and it is pro/consumer cam: optical stabilizer, 1 CCD 1:36 whit 1,3 MegaPixels...DV in/uot, analog in/out, and it works also as SRL camera...
It have a suberb image, very near of Canon MX1
If you dont care about zebra patern and manual fous ring, maby it is a good choice
New options came from Pananasonic (MX8, ex.)
I Buy it from internet and it costs 1520 EUROS! (2/3 streat pryce) - see www.nomatica.com or www.nycamera.de redface
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 8:35pm

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I use a Canon MV500i
it cost me £500
The benefits of it are the fact that it has DV in/out which helps a LOT! And it is also fantastic quality (compared to a lot of DV cams).The focus/shutter speed can be switched to manual as well (a lifesaver!)
The downfalls are that it is bottom loading (ie. have to take it off the tripod everytime you want to change the tape! ARGH!) and the fact that a lot of the effects are useless/work better on Premiere.
I would love to own a Sony V2000 because of the fantastic quality of the machine! lol
Crs
Posted: Sat, 13th Apr 2002, 10:30pm

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The Colonel

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Hi,

In response to your questions: -

1. Panasonix MX-300

2. £1550 (although you can get it cheaper now)

3. Lots of options, good lens, DV in/out, etc.

4. Not sure yet

5. Probably the new Canon XL-1S or one of the Panasonic Broadcast quality cams.
Posted: Sun, 14th Apr 2002, 12:33am

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Looks like I come out on the bottom of the Digicam heap! I only have a Canon MV300. I got the DV-In enabler too all for £560 from Jessops.
Posted: Mon, 15th Apr 2002, 3:20am

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I have a Sony dcr-pc110e which cost just under £1200.

Pros:

It has rt analogue <--> dv passthrough in both directions so can be used as a dv bridge.
Quite small compared to others.
Does proper Widescreen (squished for higher res rather than letterboxed).
1 Megapixel ccd (good for widescreen and the crummy digital still cam features)
((Is a still cam with flash taking higher res pics to a memory stick. These can be transfered off by usb and also stills from video footage so its quite handy for taking snapshots from clips.))
The antishake thing is good (no jumping in pans).

Cons:

Only 10x optical zoom
Only a single ccd not seperate ones (although you'd only expect that in more pricy ones)
The batteries rundown quite quickly with the lcd out and the viewfinder is not an angly one.
Only does 25fps so not so good filming for slowmo
Posted: Mon, 15th Apr 2002, 11:52am

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I´m going to buy me a DV Camera. I would (very) max. spend 800€. Which DV Cam would you recommend for me?

I need a good Camera with a warrenty of at least 24Month and it should have a good Lense with a good Zoom. I don´t need any effects, because i´d do it all with my PC. What about Canon Camera? Do you have good experiences with them?
I will use the camera e.g. for a Star Wars fan film and creative work.
confused tard :o
Posted: Mon, 15th Apr 2002, 4:40pm

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hey Kingpiin, I'm way below you - I'm still using Hi8!!

It's a Sony hi8, one of the last ones that came out before everything went digital, and it's jolly good. And thanks to the DV500+ capture it actually results in pretty good final video quality.

In terms of ease of use and general practicality, it is a damned mighty fine camera. Far better than the DV jobbies they've got up at uni.

I'm planning to go digital ASAP. smile
Posted: Mon, 15th Apr 2002, 10:27pm

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Orion

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just make sure it has inputs for an external mic!!! That is the one thing i regret most about my camera (and most other cameras on the market) is there there is no external microphone input.
Posted: Mon, 15th Apr 2002, 10:36pm

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I have the SONY DCR-TRV340
Digital8, 1 CCD, Analog passthrough, AV inputs, external mic input

pretty nice cam
Posted: Tue, 16th Apr 2002, 5:47pm

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Chrislad

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I think that you should have a look at a Canon. If you want to get one for around £800 you could get the MV500i (the one I have) because it is well worth the money (about £500 if you go to www.go2camcorder.co.uk), has all automatic/manual exposure/shutter speed etc... and doesnt waste time with silly effects. If you want to spend ur full £800 then have a look at Sony VX1000, u can get one second hand for about £800 and they are semi-professional. Definately worth scouting out for (and you will be scouting!!) anyway, happy hunting!!!
Crs biggrin
Posted: Sat, 20th Apr 2002, 7:07am

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I have a little Canon ZR-10 DV Camcorder. Cost me $755, but now they are as low as $500. It's got Video in, Mike, and all of the basics. Nothing fancy though, no memory card for photos and only like 2 speical effect modes. But as you can see from my flicks on the AlamDV website, that hardly slows me down. Better yet, the camera is very small, so I can take it and shoot film just about anywhere, without people even noticing I have a camera. Good for Gurilla Camera shots in places you arn't normally suppose to film!

It's got poor low light light performance though...
Posted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2002, 8:05pm

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Chrislad

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If you go to pricerunner.com then you can compare prices on a load of different camcorders, you can find some real bargains there. Its a good website.
Crs
Posted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2002, 10:27pm

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CANON GL1
2g's
Uh, it's got really nice shutterspeed and lighting features!
Little black like along the edges of the frame!
Posted: Wed, 24th Apr 2002, 7:11pm

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iMyles

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I very much want a Sony DCR-TRV900 but I need a job first. Right now I use what my friends can get me from the film lab.
Posted: Wed, 24th Apr 2002, 8:44pm

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I got an older sony mini DV cam (DCR-TRV8) online for what I believe to be a steal. $400 on ebay. Quality is good, sony has never dissappointed me.

Cons:
Needs better than 10x optical zoom.
Built in audio isn't terribly good, needs a shotgun mic.

It's not a PD150. Pro 3CCD camera which is what I'd be looking into if I had the money. I want something with XLR inputs, for external mics.

I'd consider a Cannon XL-1 too, does it have balanced XLR in/out? Anyone comment on this for me?
Posted: Thu, 25th Apr 2002, 7:18am

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I use a Canon GL-1, and I am very happy with it. biggrin The color reproduction and image quality are fantastic. The sound quality is quite nice, too. Paid a little over $2000 for it, and am wishing I had the XL-1 instead, 'cause its got interchangeable lenses.

All in all, I can't complain, though. It really is quite nice.
Posted: Thu, 25th Apr 2002, 12:24pm

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What cameras do you use:

-I've got 2: A Canon ZR-25mc and a recently (3 weeks ago) purchased XL1-S

How much did it cost?

-The ZR-25mc was $1200.00 Canadian and the XL1-S was $3500.00 Canadian (on sale- demo model)

What are the benefits?

-The ZR-25mc has a memory stick for stills and is very easy to work with, the XL1-S is godlike

What are the downfalls?

-The ZR-25mc is a "hobbyist" camera and suffers from the use of the classic "all-in-one" feature package (effects, auto focusing etc. no native 16:9), the XL1-S has no short comings, it's a professional quality 3 ccd DV monstrosity

What DV cam would you like to own?

-I've got it already! XL1-S! wink

-Neo

PS- All the advice you have recieved so far is great. If you are just going to shoot movies with your firends and have a good time, but want them to look decent, spend about $1000.00 and try and get a camera with less features but higher optical zoom and possibly native 16:9 (widescreen). Anything you want change/edit/add in the actual film should be done in your NLE during post production anyway. However, if you can afford it, get a 3 ccd camera. Canon GL1 or XL1-S. These will both produce professional quality results that you can bend down in post production to 24 fps and even transfer to film at a later date. Obviously this all depends on your budget and what you want to do with your film afterwards. Don't be put off by the 1 ccd cameras though. I've been to enough film festivals to tell you that you can shoot an amazing looking movie with a 1 ccd camera, transfer to film stock and blow your audiences away if your post production staff know what they are doing. You don't really need the GL1, XL1-S or comparable camera unless you have extra $$$ or are dead set about making some kind of Lucas Arts quality production. Hope this helps.
Posted: Thu, 25th Apr 2002, 2:18pm

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I use Canon m300i, sony pc110 and sony trv 30
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 5:01am

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i got a JVC GR-DVL 310

its great. i got a JVC because i thought it was one of the sharpest i looked at. the cannon's are awesome too. when i knew what i wanted, i bought this one off ebay (brand new in the box) for $320. basically stole it. that came with the normal battery, and they gave me another monster 2 hour battery for free when it was all said and done.
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 3:01pm

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I'm putzing along with my Panasonic DV-PV50, cost me $500 with an extra 5 hour battery. I'd like on of those professional 4000 babies but well i'm in collage and this cam and a new G4 already set me back a couple grand. tard
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 2:20am

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It's good enough. Try some filters in After Effects to improve the overall look of your films. You'd be surprised at the kind of results you can get.

-Neo
Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2002, 10:19pm

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I have a question for all you guys. Are there such cameras that are available that use film to record? If so, which ones and how would you then capture it onto your computer.

By the way,

I also have a Hi8 Cam so don't feel left out Tarn. I have a Sony CCD-TR940. Not so great. It only cost me around $400. Has some video abstracts when put on video tape.
Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2002, 12:43am

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1. Sony Handy-Cam Vision Video 8 XR CCD-TRV57E

2. AU$1000 about 2 years ago

3. Hmm...cheap, quality is good for analogue. easy to use. Has steady-cam, 0 lux night vision razz

4. Its not digital! cry Which means i have to capture the footage. I have a studio DC10+ and its good....but analogue capturing is a pest.

5. One of those AU$6k ones. The really good ones. hehe. I dont feel like finding out which one.

-Pointybeard
Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2002, 10:18am

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1) Sony PC-5E MiniDV Cam

2) Plenty! biggrin (Not as much as the awesome XL1 though)

3) Compact and quality is decent

4) Zoom toggle is placed at a weird location

5) The Canon XL1S by a mile!
Posted: Thu, 29th Aug 2002, 9:18am

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Hiya

I use

1/ Sony TRV-240 Digital 8 Cam
2/ Cost about £500
3/ Really crisp picture has DV in/out
4/ Lack of macro focus (I use it for stop motion lego movies)
5/ Not sure at the mo...