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Posted: Tue, 8th Nov 2005, 6:45pm

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Well Serpent, here ya go.
We can discuss Videos, Screens, news, and everything else. Also, please post links to the things you find. 10 days remain until the big event!




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Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 10:52pm

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Im seeing it at midnight, 4 days til then, and


EDIT: Costume decided upon. A kid from Hogwarts..... at night!

Which = Flannel pants + t-shirt

BWAHAHAHA
Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005, 6:09am

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I guess Harry potter is an ok movie, but I don't think I will go to a theater and see it. I will most likely just rent it on DVD.
Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005, 6:59pm

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I wasn't going to see this movie, as i'm not so much into HP, but after hearing about the good reviews it's gotten, I think I might. It sems like it might actually be.....good.
Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005, 2:49am

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i love harry potter. I'm especially into the books. The movies are great too. The first to were really good, but i didn't like the third as much. I'm hoping the fourth will be as good as it is said to be!
Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005, 5:07pm

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I just got my midnight ticket the other night. IM GOING ALONE W()()()()()!
Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005, 12:56pm

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I JUST GOT BACK FROM MIDNIGHT!!! It was awesome!!!!! (And hilarious)

I'll write a more in-depth review later.

But for now.....

EVERYONE GO SEE IT!

(Time or Waser to bash it razz)
Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005, 4:03pm

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best movie of the year. easily. that's all I can say really.

Best parts: The school dance and the graveyard scene. Finnes as voldemort was incredible.
Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005, 4:06pm

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Waser wrote:

best movie of the year. easily. that's all I can say really.

Best parts: The school dance and the graveyard scene. Finnes as voldemort was incredible.
It'll have to be brilliant to top History of Violence. My favorite film of the year so far.

I'm watching it with my sisters tonight.. I hope its awesome Waser... biggrin
Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005, 9:26pm

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Voldemort...... was....... AMAZING!
Posted: Sat, 19th Nov 2005, 12:07am

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Rating: +2

Just got back from watching this rather long movie.

As a growing up reader of the HP books I felt a little shocked about the specifics and details that had been removed from the film adapatation of the Goblet of Fire, here are my opinions.

The effects and CG are very good, and at times the editing and style of cinematography is somewhat eerie and different. It seems apparent to me Warner Bros threw millions of dollars at the special effects to try and woe the audience into a false sense of 'this film is good'. I mean, the kids won't mind will they? Pretty pictures and seapeople alive on the screen! This year at Hogwarts feels like a few days bashed together with some completely over the top tournament thrown in - in the book the tournament has depth and reason, the characters involved are developed and hugely important in the conflicts and differences between Ron, Harry and Hermione. Yet in the film these other characters are used as gags, and if not a gag, they have a simple line to deliver, which apparently should sum up the 150pages left out about them.

The book delivered each piece of the pie. The film Threw many pieces of the pie in the bin, and presented an attempt which was half baked, stale and well, if this pie had a name, thy shall name it Confusing Pie.

This film suffered. Badly. From being squeezed (and squeezed it was) into a single viewing. Harry Potter take note, Kill Bill was made in two parts because the story had to be developed and shown. The Goblet of Fire somehow manages to throw jumpcuts into a story that shouldn't have been spoilt in such a manner.

This is where you notice the difference in Directors from the 3rd film to this, the forth. The 3rd had fantastic cinematography, that used CG to enhance, not cover up.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed its few merits, and very much enjoyed Ralph Fiennes performance at the end as well as the elder actors, who salvaged whatever was left of the torn apart and stuck together script.

Of course, Harry Potter fans will enjoy it, screaming and running around shouting 10/10. Yet if they sit back for a few seconds, they'll realise the film (if you dont know the book) was confusing and rather bland.


But wait.

I enjoyed it. I'm a biast Harry Potter fan. If you haven't read the book, you're probably going to get lost. But I have read the book.

My opinion. 6/10 -


its like your blinking, and missing hours of the film?

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Posted: Sat, 19th Nov 2005, 12:18am

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once again, my horrible taste in movies is paraded infront of my peers.
Posted: Sat, 19th Nov 2005, 12:39am

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Waser wrote:

once again, my horrible taste in movies is paraded infront of my peers.
I'm with you, man. razz
Posted: Sat, 19th Nov 2005, 1:14am

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Yamfanny wrote:

(Time for Waser to bash it )
hahahahah didn't see that at first.
Posted: Sat, 19th Nov 2005, 4:22am

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Waser wrote:

Yamfanny wrote:

(Time for Waser to bash it )
hahahahah didn't see that at first.
Heh. What is one to expect from Waser other than a bashing?
Posted: Sat, 19th Nov 2005, 4:26am

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Yamfanny wrote:

Waser wrote:

Yamfanny wrote:

(Time for Waser to bash it )
hahahahah didn't see that at first.
Heh. What is one to expect from Waser other than a bashing?
You seriously don't want to look into that. From what I heard. >.>
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 6:03am

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Just saw it, and I agree with er-no. It felt like it was cut and paste together very choppily. The worst part of the movie was at the end (this WILL NOT spoil anything):

HERMOINE
Everything's going to change now,
isn't it, Harry?

HARRY looks off wistfully into the distance. He looks like he's about to say something deep and heartfelt.

HARRY
(bluntly and awkwardly)
.................yes.

(I know my script syntax isn't perfect, but....meh)

Daniel Radcliff (Harry Potter) delivered the line horribly, but there wasn't much you could do with it.
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 6:04am

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It was supposed to be funny
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 6:10am

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Oh. Yes. Ha ha ha.........?

(Maybe it's just me that doesn't find it humorous.....meh)
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 6:11am

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rogolo wrote:

Oh. Yes. Ha ha ha.........?

(Maybe it's just me that doesn't find it humorous.....meh)
I did, but whatever, its personal taste
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 4:16pm

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I liked the movie but maybe it's because I saw it with my friends in theaters.. The second and third movies I didn't enjoy much, but I didn't see them with my friends nor in theaters.

Certains parts felt rushed, but I have not read the book (and do not plan on it) so I don't know how it really should have been planned out.
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 4:25pm

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I liked it except:

1) Cedric's character wasn't built up enough to constitute the big deal they made of his death.

2) I do agree it was cut/pasted. Some parts were thrown in there because they had to, and they condensed the first 200 pages of the book into 5 minutes and didn't even show any of the freakin quidditch world cup.

Other than that I thought it was good.
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 4:52pm

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evman101 wrote:

I liked it except:
2) and didn't even show any of the freakin quidditch world cup.

Other than that I thought it was good.
That was a huge cop out. I really wanted to see the house elf and some of the Quidditch matches.
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 7:41pm

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yeah i remember reading the book, and wondering how they'd out do the quidditch matches in the first two movies, but I guess we'll never know.
Posted: Sun, 20th Nov 2005, 8:11pm

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Ok I know a lot of people loved this movie, but overall I was very disappointed. Since the third movie I have had a feeling of dissapointment in the Harry Potter Movies. In the third one with the switching of directors I felt there wasn't enough emphasis on things like everday classes and holidays like Christmas, also I felt the beginning of school feast wasn't long enough. Those were things stressed in the first two films and I don't think you can just go around changing things like that. Well with the Fourth film there was none of that. We never see the Dursleys and basically none of the Quidditch Word Cup. In about 10 minutes time the movie goes straight to Hogwarts. Things that are essential to Harry Potter and just favorites for the fans were nowhere to be found. Headwig and Fang make little to no appearance, the beginning of the year feast wasn't there at all. What about Dobby working in the kitchen? The only class shown was them in Mad Eye Moody's class. Things like them walking to class could have been shown. If I hadn't of read the books I would have never realized this was even a school. The Tri-Wizard Tournament was good, but it seemed like that was the entire movie. Everything was centered around that which basically got you nowhere in the story. The whole movie could be summed up in this sentece: "Harry goes to school enters a tournament of three schools and wins in the end, but Cedric Diggory dies and Voldemort comes back." It felt very rushed and like there was no depth to this film. It was just very flashy with very little story and not at all honoring to the books. I know it's long, but if books like LOTR can be made into amazing films so can Harry Potter.
Overall Rating: 5/10
Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2005, 1:31am

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AcjPictures wrote:

Ok I know a lot of people loved this movie, but overall I was very disappointed. Since the third movie I have had a feeling of dissapointment in the Harry Potter Movies. In the third one with the switching of directors I felt there wasn't enough emphasis on things like everday classes and holidays like Christmas, also I felt the beginning of school feast wasn't long enough. Those were things stressed in the first two films and I don't think you can just go around changing things like that. Well with the Fourth film there was none of that. We never see the Dursleys and basically none of the Quidditch Word Cup. In about 10 minutes time the movie goes straight to Hogwarts. Things that are essential to Harry Potter and just favorites for the fans were nowhere to be found. Headwig and Fang make little to no appearance, the beginning of the year feast wasn't there at all. What about Dobby working in the kitchen? The only class shown was them in Mad Eye Moody's class. Things like them walking to class could have been shown. If I hadn't of read the books I would have never realized this was even a school. The Tri-Wizard Tournament was good, but it seemed like that was the entire movie. Everything was centered around that which basically got you nowhere in the story. The whole movie could be summed up in this sentece: "Harry goes to school enters a tournament of three schools and wins in the end, but Cedric Diggory dies and Voldemort comes back." It felt very rushed and like there was no depth to this film. It was just very flashy with very little story and not at all honoring to the books. I know it's long, but if books like LOTR can be made into amazing films so can Harry Potter.
Overall Rating: 5/10
It was centered around the TriWizard Tournament because thats the most important thing. They did it with LOTR:FOTR - they cut out basically all the scenes that didn't have anything to do with Frodo or the Ring. A good book to movie adaption can't have everything from the book in it and still have it be a good MOVIE. Seems the filmmakers snipped exactly what they had to (I think they could have even cut more) in order to get it down to a sizable movie. Trying to explain SPEW, Ludo, Winky, etc, would take many many minutes, and then there would be even more lengthy scenes with them.

Perfect example - setting up Dobby again to have him do ONE thing, which was to bring harry the gillyweed, would have taken too long. Why not just use Neville, an already established character, to get to the meat of the story (The triwizard tournament) quicker?

Adding any more than they already did would have bogged down the movie considerably, and I understand all the decisions for cuts that were made EXCEPT the quidditch world cup. If you're going to use all that time to set up the cup, then why skimp out on it and leave the audience hanging? At least show us maybe 1 minute of it.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 3:41am

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Well, i just saw this today.

I agree with er-no, they squeezed it in. They made so many confusing cuts it was hard to follow, even after i've read the book. I can't imagine what it would be like for someone who hadn't read it.

One thing i was dissapointed with was the way that they couldnt fit little things in that may have added a minute or two, and then they completley add the 5 minute dragon sequence. The dragon does not escape in the book. That was 5 minutes wasted. 5 minutes that could have been put in at the end, maybe when the priori incantatum was occuring (in the book the hand of wormtail appears with the rest of the spirits, as well as Bertha Jorkins? (im not sure what her name is)), or maybe when Dumbledore was explaining the priori incantatum... the way he said it was like it was almost expected of the audience to know all about it.

Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort was, as Waser said, incredible. That was definatley a better part of the movie.

Overall, ill give it a 7/10. It was definatley the best of the four so far, but theres things that they shouldn't have done and should have done.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 10:50am

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They could have spent some time on the good things. I mean, the first task for example was way to long! Why don't show the quidditch match instead? Or the elf things? I'm really disappointed...
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 2:23pm

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Saw it yesterday, it was the best one IMO so far, but was quite rushed. I wanted to see some of the Quidditch, not just fireworks.

Otherwise, it was a great movie, had some awesome 3d animation in it. I enjoyed watching it.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 2:34pm

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It would seem that they are just rushing the films out, without carefully planning ahead.
I have never really been a big fan of the series, but I love too watch the films for the special effects. But as we all know, special effects are not the do-all end-all of a film, and it's the story side that is let down in TGOF.
I also think Daniel Radclif is the worst actor i've ever seen on screen. I've worked with many amature actors and stage performers, all living very much in poverity, yet they are fantastic actors. Daniel gets paid a hefty sum, and he just CANT ACT!
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 2:37pm

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It's because they need someone to look like Harry, and he was the first person they found.

But I do agree there are so many good actors everywhere that deserve to give other actors the boot out of the acting business, but because of money and other circumstances they are not given the opportunity to do so.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 3:06pm

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I have the same opinions about this film as er-no actually.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 3:43pm

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I didn't enjoy it.

1) The opening was rubbish. I can't stand movies that open with CG elements, as it just looks fake tbh.

2) The whole film just seemed dis-jointed. I don't know how to put it, but for me it just didn't flow. Some bits didn't make much sense either.

3) The cinematography was quite poor in some scenes. The dark scenes were just ridiculous. It was almost as bad as playing DOOM3. Everything was pitch black.

4) The movie seemed rushed. It wasn't a compliment to the book. What the hell is the point in featuring the World Cup, and then not showing the game!? I hoped that these films weren't going to turn in to another 'Hollywood we don't care cash in the money asap' job.

After the third movie took a leap forward, this has taken a step back.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 8:35pm

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PaleRider wrote:

It would seem that they are just rushing the films out, without carefully planning ahead.
I have never really been a big fan of the series, but I love too watch the films for the special effects. But as we all know, special effects are not the do-all end-all of a film, and it's the story side that is let down in TGOF.
I agree with what you're saying about the rushing the films out. In my opinion, they should have done it Lord of the Rings-style. They should have waited a few years until the 7th and final book comes out, written all the screenplays, and shot it all at once. (in case anyone doesnt know, the Lord of the Rings trilogy was filmed all at once, they were in production for 5 years. They took the footage and then put them together for release.)

Not only would this have probably have solved their little crisis of aging too fast, but it would almost sort of prevent them from being rushed.
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Shooting 3 movies at once was something PJ said he'd never do again and doesn't recommend doing it. Shooting 7 would be suicide. Besides, they'd look like they were 11 for 7 years. Tom Welling played Clark Kent when he was basically a freshman in highschool - like 15 or 16- when he was like 22. I don't see a problem with their aging at all.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 9:00pm

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Hrm, then i guess that wouldnt be a smart thing to do razz

I just wish Hollywood could put out more movies that people actually took time to make, were meticulous about, and just cared about. The Harry Potter books are great works of art, i suppose, and the movies so far have not done them justice at all.
Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005, 11:28pm

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I loved this one. Best in the series in my opinion. The only flaws were a few bad CG elements, a few corny moments that were meant not to be, and the fact that they left out many interesting things such as the quidditch cup, the Dursley's house, Draco Malfoy, classes, and mostly fun filler stuff that makes the book interesting. I just thought they left too much out, I really wanted to see pigwidgeon.
Posted: Mon, 28th Nov 2005, 1:16am

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Well I htought it was better than the last one..... but it was still dissapointing. One of the main dissapointments was Dumbledore no one could replace Richard Harris but the new guy just ruines the character he seemed on the verge of strangling Harry when his name was drawn from the fire. Barty Crouch seemed sort of like a moron not the rule worshiping stuck up man he was in the book. I understand all about having to go quickly to important parts. 1 page of script equals 1 minute of film time the movie would have to be split into 2 movies to fit as muck as they would probably would have liked to. But you can't turn back time. hopefully next movie would be better.
Posted: Mon, 28th Nov 2005, 2:52am

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I thought this was the best one, it felt really epic and and atmosphere was really good most of the time. It's a shame they left out the quidditch world cup, but the changes they made to the plot weren't too bad IMO... the main elements were still there. I wonder what they'll do to the 5th one though... it's got an awful lot more stuff in it than the 4th book does.