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Ebay FCP, is this possible?

Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 2:09am

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BlueSmudge

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At time of posting this has 3 hours left:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5828935137
Please don't bid on this though, that would be downright mean if you hadn't allready seen it.
Its at $100, and there isnt much discription. However, he has good feedback. What do you think. Real or not?
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 2:12am

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Why would it be mean? The point of posting this stuff is to help out other people. I don't know, just sayin' that. Although it does seem to be real, and very believible. You never know what you will find on ebay. I already own it, but thats cool. wink

P.S. Yes, I think it is real.

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Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 2:16am

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No. Fake
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 2:18am

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Fake, he's also sold 6 copies of Toast 7 at low prices. Seems dodgy as hell to me.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 2:22am

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I agree it's weird that there is not enough info on it, it's just a picture put there from some part of the internet. It's obvious it wasn't taken by him, no idea though. I would just assume the worst and not even attempt to bid.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 4:07am

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It doesn't make sense then why members from as far back as 1998 would rate him a + if the product was fake. I think I'm going to bid.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 4:17am

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I see burned copies of programs like Premiere Pro 1.5 going for hundreds every day.

Whenever someone not specific or says something like "doesn't come with manual for technical reasons", assume it's burned. Unless someone says it's boxed and ready, don't bid on it.

Just stay safe, and don't end up like this guy:

http://onecentipod.ytmnd.com

And I know it's true because I submitted that one. I still have the link to the original eBay webpage. I wouldn't risk getting a burned copy. And most of the time people end up leaving feedback before they actually recieve the item.

Your decision though. I wouldn't buy anything off of eBay, ever. I did once and I got a worthless piece of junk.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 5:16am

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Lithium Kraft wrote:

I wouldn't buy anything off of eBay, ever.
That's not that wise, especially considering the other 80% of the stuff on there that IS real AND cheap.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 6:34am

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It cost now over the 200 bucks eek
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 7:11am

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ben3308 wrote:

Lithium Kraft wrote:

I wouldn't buy anything off of eBay, ever.
That's not that wise, especially considering the other 80% of the stuff on there that IS real AND cheap.
I agree, provided you're not a fool it's pretty difficult to get conned on eBay.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 7:32am

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rrfproductions wrote:

It cost now over the 200 bucks eek
This is quite cheap for a program normally selling at about 800 dollars. Anyway, I think it's either fake or a copy.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 2:44pm

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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

ben3308 wrote:

Lithium Kraft wrote:

I wouldn't buy anything off of eBay, ever.
That's not that wise, especially considering the other 80% of the stuff on there that IS real AND cheap.
I agree, provided you're not a fool it's pretty difficult to get conned on eBay.
I still don't like it. I prefer going to a store where you can actually see a REAL picture of the item you're buying (more than 80% of the time people use stock photos instead of real photos), and there's no way you can get conned at a local store.

And on eBay, just the other day I a ton of auctions for 30gb video ipods that went over 400-500$. Sure, maybe you can get SOME stuff on eBay for cheaper than normal, but once again, I prefer ordering direct, where you know it's all good.

Anyways, let's refrain from starting a debate, and watch and see what kind of feedback the winning bidder leaves.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 7:04pm

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In these situations you could always email the seller. If they lie, you have proof through your emails and if they've conned you, just get in touch with your bank from which the payment was made and they retreive the money. I had a problem with a seller, paid him then didnt hear anything for 2 weeks so i contacted him and he said he was waiting for more money. Called the bank and they just took the money off him.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 8:30pm

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Redhawksrymmer wrote:

rrfproductions wrote:

It cost now over the 200 bucks eek

This is quite cheap for a program normally selling at about 800 dollars.
Anyway, I think it's either fake or a copy.
200 $ for a copy is quite expensive...

Don't ya think razz
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 10:15pm

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What I did was bought a copy of Final Cut Pro 1 for $200 and then bought the upgrade to 4 from apple for $400. It saved me alot of money. One thing to keep in mind when buying stuff off ebay is that if it looks to good to be true then it most likely is. My 2ยข.

rrfproductions wrote:



200 $ for a copy is quite expensive...

Don't ya think razz
Actually its not. This program is $1000 new.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 10:23pm

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Buying 2nd hand copies off ebay is just as illegal as a pirate copy anyway so what difference does it make?
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 11:03pm

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Why is it the same?
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 11:07pm

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Unless the original user transfers the license, you're not entitled to use it. I think that's it.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 11:21pm

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Guys... it was currently used to collaborate the Tim Burton movie "The Corpse Bride" Why WOULDN'T you buy it?

Edit: Also, it allows you to basically edit everything. EVERYTHING.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 11:24pm

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Lithium Kraft wrote:

Unless the original user transfers the license, you're not entitled to use it. I think that's it.
Many software licences prohibit resale or transfer of licence.
Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005, 11:59pm

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Think of it this way:

*guy steals ferrari*

*guy sells ferrari for 800$*

The ferrari is still stolen and not legally his.
Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005, 12:07am

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I think if you win it and payfor it through Paypal, I think if there is fraud, then you can report it and get your money back. Look into that maybe.
Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005, 5:18am

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pooky wrote:

Think of it this way:

*guy steals ferrari*

*guy sells ferrari for 800$*

The ferrari is still stolen and not legally his.
I don't think the seller stole FCP.
Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005, 7:08pm

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Its not like buying a ferrari, unfortunately that would be much more simple.

When you buy software you are only buying the right to use it and the physical media that it is on.

If you sell your copy to someone else then they own the physical media but not the right to use the software.
Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005, 8:06pm

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If you want to decrease your chances of getting scammed on ebay, there are a few simple processes to follow.

-Check the users feedback. If he's got a lot of feedback (more than 80 something) and its at least 97% positive, then he's probably an honest seller. People with 1-20 feedbacks usually are scam sellers that are trying to make as much money as possible before ebay can close their account.

-Ask for digital images of the used/unused product. Don't just rely on professional stock photography.

-Make sure in the item description, that the seller has described the item in as much detail that makes you, the buyer, feel comfortable about your bidding.

-If shipping isn't listed, then always inquire what the shipping fees will be.

-Lastly, if you are uncomfortable with your bid, you can retract it under specific circumstances. Don't make a habit of this though, because ebay records retracted bids.