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Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 2:57pm

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To celebrate the new products, we're offering a copy of the brand new VisionLab HD (worth £299.99!) as the top prize in our new competition!

Believe it or not, all you have to do is make a fanfilm! Read on for more details…

The FXhome Fanfilm Competition

Closing date for all entries: February 28th 2006

Duration: Between 30 seconds and 5 minutes

Prizes:

1st Place - VisionLab HD (worth £299.99!)

2nd Place - A choice of either EffectsLab Pro or CompositeLab Pro (worth £89.99!)

3rd Place - A choice of either EffectsLab DV or CompositeLab DV (worth £64.99!)

The Top 10 entries will also be showcased at FXhome.com with free hosting and publicity – get your movie seen by thousands even if you don’t win!

Brief: Create a ‘fanfilm’ between 30 seconds and 5 minutes long that explores your passion for a topic of your choice (ie, why you like it, what makes it special). Submissions can be on any topic and can take any form (comedy, documentary, drama, etc).

Tips: Your entry can be about anything. We want you to show us what you find most interesting and exciting in the world. Here are some ideas:

• Entertainment - a movie, book, song, sport, games etc
• Person - a friend, politician, celebrity, actor, singer, etc
• Location - somewhere you've visited, where you live, where you want to go, etc
• Culture - local traditions, bars, clubs, societies, etc
• Things - an invention, toys, cars, boats, spaceships, etc

How to enter: Upload your movie to the web, then email the link to team@fxhome.com. We will then download and host the movie for judging. Make sure the movie is encoded to a high quality using either Quicktime or Divx.

Who is judging? The FXhome staff (schwar, malone, Cogz, JackPot and Tarn) will be making the final decisions on the winners.

Do FXhome products need to be used? No, this competition is open to everyone. You do not need to use an FXhome product in your submission if you don't want to. Entries created using FXhome products will not have a greater chance of winning.

Are visual effects necessary? No, entries do not need to be effects spectaculars. The competition is about the quality of the overall film itself, not the quality of effects or any single element.


The competition is now open, so start rolling those cameras to be in with a chance of winning!

Please spread the word to your friends and other websites that may be interested, as this competition is open to everyone.

What if I win something I already own? If you buy any of the new software before the end of the competition (we know some of you guys want it as soon as possible) then go on to win the same software (or better) we will refund your old purchase.

We can simply refund your creditcard or Paypal account or, if you prefer, we can give your winning copy to somebody else.

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Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 5:58pm

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Great!
Just need to get a plot now..... think
Can it be any fanfilm? Like, say, a nightcast fanfilm or something, as long as you got the original creators permission?
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 6:00pm

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Anything you want. A film, a sport, a parent, anything. biggrin
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 6:01pm

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It can be about anything you want. There are some suggestions in the main news post, check the 'Tips' bit.

Getting permission to do a fanfilm on Nightcast is only strictly necessary if you're planning on using materials that you don't own - such as clips from Nightcast, or photos, for example.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 6:11pm

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In our submissions do you mind if we use the QT H.264 format? Oh, and are we limited to only one submission?
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 6:29pm

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I'm guessing you can only do one.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 6:34pm

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QuickTime 7 H.264 is fine, as is DivX.

You can submit more than 1 movie, but you can only win 1 prize.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 7:40pm

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Huzzah! Thanks Schwar! Lol, one prize is enough for me! biggrin
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 7:49pm

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OH YEAH. This is going to RULE.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 8:29pm

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Printing this page right now... Me and my crew are on it! Hopefully, we will deliver a competitionable product... Cy!
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 8:59pm

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Oh, ya... One other clarifying issue. When you say encode to high quality, what exactly does that mean?
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 9:27pm

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I already started my project.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 9:30pm

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Smates Studios wrote:

Oh, ya... One other clarifying issue. When you say encode to high quality, what exactly does that mean?
A video file of 5 minutes maximum should be able to be encoded at full resolution and crystal clarity while being around the 50MB mark.

In other words, we don't want submissions that are all bleary and full of nasty compression artefacts.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 9:30pm

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I started when I heard about it in the Chat event smile

Looking good so far biggrin
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 9:30pm

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Whats the verdict on copyrighted music?
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 9:59pm

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The prizes might just make me put my current project on hold just to give me a shot at the prizes.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 10:13pm

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I might even jump in this one. X3i could def use some vision if u get my drift ha. Question tho.. Could we make the film in the form of a trailer?
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 10:20pm

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CX3 - If it fulfills the brief, then sure. The movie itself can take whatever form you like.

If you were going to do it around x3i, why not include interviews, explain why you and Arsyn (sorry, names slipping as usual....) are so passionate about the series? Really delve into it!

jstow222 - I'm afraid we're going to have to say no to copyrighted music. I know this makes it difficult for people, but as we're going to be hosting the movies, everything needs to be on the up-and-up. We will take into account when judging that it's very difficult to get original scores or stock music, though.

Can't wait! Glad to see so many of you working on it already. Spread the word to anyone you think might be interested, too, as this is open to everyone, not just FXhomers!
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 10:40pm

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Awesome site, all of you. Bravo to the whole team for these great products and Malone (and possibly others) for the great new layout. I will hopefully be entering, because I've got two weeks off after tommorrow, and just REALLY REALLY want VisionLab HD or CompositeLab Pro.

Cheers, yall. Drink it up for a great day on FXHome,

-Atom
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Ok, after installing EL DV gold and trying to open footage from my clay project and finding that EL no longer loads anything at 1280x720 I feel more or less forced into this contest...

Are LEGOs find to use in this, becouse there is no way I could make a clay project in one and a half months.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 12:14am

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Yea im definately in, i will probably end up hitting up alot of the local highschool bands for music.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 12:29am

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I am going to try it forsure man this is so cool I will start the project as soon as I can. biggrin

PS MAN THIS NEW LOOK FOR THE SITE IT'S AWSOME! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 12:34am

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I know the entry rules say that your submission can be about anything BUT...Question: Can this be a fanfilm based off a genre or style of film? Example, I'm a fan of drama, so would my entry be accaptable if it was a movie depicting a dramatic story or situation?

Sorry if this is a confusing question...

NFS
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 1:27am

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Hey I am in! I think I have a pretty good Idea. Mocumentry.
anyway love the new site and all the new software. good luck everybody!
-Aaron
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Tarn, when you say copyrighted music, what xactly do you mean? I have contacts with music authors from some sites that make their own versions of music that is already created. They call them "remixes" but they are completely recomposed. I am almost positive this is legal, because they have LOTR tribute albums for sale at record stores, they have tons of fan made things sold all over the web, etc. I am almost positive these are legal, since it isn't truly the song, just a recreation.

EDIT: ALSO, don't you guys think January 31st is kind of close? And this contest is mostly a marketing move I see, so have to started spreading the word yet, because if you don't do it soon, you won't get many "outsiders", save TFN Fanfilm board.

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Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 2:42am

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Damn, I cannot do a fanfilm about my love for copyrighted music?


/me sighs.
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I'll do two projects, one on -------, and the other on something else, maybe Alias now that it's cancelled and all. Good luck to everyone.


Oh, and lets say we happened to own a DVD of a season of a TV show. If there were interviews and stuff on there, would be we allowed to take some bits and pieces off, and behind the scenes stuff, and use them, even if we said "Used without permission from ABC" or something?

And is that 5 minutes INCLUDING the end credits, or is it 5 minutes of movie, and say a minute or so of credits?
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 4:23am

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Just don't have credits at all and you won't have to worry about it.
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I'll probably be in this, but I have a question.

You said that we couldn't use copyrighted music, so what are we going to do in the case of something like a SW or SG fanfilm? I guess we could make up our own themes, but I was just wondering if there was any exceptions.

I'll be in this anyways though. I'm going to need CLab Pro and ELab Pro to make mine though...thank goodness the deadline is January 30th!

-Landon
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I'll see if I can think of something to film, just got to finish my next movie first. Nice competition, except I already own the 1st price. razz
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Landon wrote:

You said that we couldn't use copyrighted music, so what are we going to do in the case of something like a SW or SG fanfilm?
Well it's not music but FXhome provides some free sound effects which include Star Wars / scifi stuff.

I don't think you need to use the real SW music for it to be an acceptable SW fanfilm. Tarn mentioned that the music won't be a major factor in the competition, since they realise how difficult it is for amateur filmmakers.

Tarn wrote:

We will take into account when judging that it's very difficult to get original scores or stock music, though.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 5:10pm

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Well I have a camera, and it is a piece of crap...

I don't know if you know him the Canon G2000

And well, 512kbps is just as 'beautiful' as the 'high resolution' redface

Can I still join ?
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It has been stipulated that use of copyrighted music is not aloud. Fair enough. But what if we want to do a song as out lined in the ideas section "Entertainment - a movie, book, song, sport, games etc"

I have an idea about doing a music video, so would this be aloud or not.

Also i have an old film that i made a long time ago. It actualy uses analoge video footage. At the time i could not get the video very good qulity, would i be penilised for this?
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This is great! Maybe i'll compete.
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Awesome. I'm currently finishing up pre-production and moving onto production for this short I'm currently doing. I plan on entering it into a state-wide film festival, but their deadline is within a few days of this one. It'll be nice to have another movie back in the FXHome cinema.

However, it's looking to be about 8 minutes right now, so 5 minutes may be a little tough to make. I'll have to cut it down quite a bit, but I guess that's part of life.

I look forward to seeing everyone's entries, it's been a while since I've checked out anything in the FX Cinema.
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I'm In. I'll probably have to make this movie in the course of a week thanks to Time constraints wink
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What is the format for the contest? WMV or MOV or both if possible (WMV is much easier to export in Premiere for me because it gives an est. filesize but doesn't give one for MOV.)?
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DivX avi or QuickTime mp4/h.264 are best. WMV is a horrible format and can be a bit of a pain to watch on the Mac as the Mac player has problems with some WMV files.

I expect we will take WMV, but I like DivX and QuickTime MUCH MUCH more.
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Redhawk, you will get your money back if you win.
Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005, 12:36am

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im in.
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What about Non-Narrative shorts? I was thinking about doing a fake trailer. Something like "Bears Be Scared" or "Grayson."
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How will the films be judged on Like will it be on Cinematography, Script, Sound, Effects or is this going to be judged on what the judged Like the best?
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We'll judge all aspects, both technical and artistic. Primary criteria will be in how well it fulfills the 'fanfilm' concept - ie, exploring whatever you are a fan of (whether seriously or otherwise).
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Yeah, i think i'll start my project now too. is fxvault here yet? or does that come out later i cant remember but i'm exited!
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OOOOOOOboyyy! eek

i want to make a movie BUT! I do`t have any camera crazy
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jrg2134 wrote:

Yeah, i think i'll start my project now too. is fxvault here yet? or does that come out later i cant remember but i'm exited!
FXVault is FXhome's major project for 2006, as far as we know.
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Oh okay.
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Tarn, could you answer that question I asked?

Can we use recomposed versions of songs? I don't think there are copyrights against it.
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Not sure if this changes anything, but the University of Washington Media Center policy cites a fair-use law in the US that allows a maximum of 1/3 of copyrighted material to be used for non-commercial purposes. So as long as the films are being judged and not sold, using small portions of copyrighted songs does not constitute illegal behavior. In the US.
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Serpent wrote:

Tarn, could you answer that question I asked?

Can we use recomposed versions of songs? I don't think there are copyrights against it.
What about the Leightziger-use rule?
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I was talking non-commercially sorta, since they (for whatever reason) are against copyrighted music (even if we give credit?). FXH team, we need an answer on this.

Also, you are using this as an advertisement sorta, are you telling the major indie film sites about the contest? Spreading the word will attract whole groups of filmmakers. If you wait too long, no one will participate due to a too close deadline.
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Serpent wrote:

I was talking non-commercially sorta, since they (for whatever reason) are against copyrighted music (even if we give credit?).
The reason they're against using copyrighted music is that using copyrighted music (or anything else) without the owner's permission is illegal.

Even if you credit it, it's still illegal if you use it without permission.

Even if you don't sell your film, it's still illegal if you use it without permission.

As has been announced, FXhome are going to host the top 10 entries. Hence, if those films contain copyrighted material then FXhome could also be liable.

In terms of sampling/recomposing, from what I know this is also breaking copyright law (again, unless you have the owner's permission). For what it's worth, I think you should avoid it completely. That way you can safely know that you own 100% of your film, and always have the option of selling it. smile
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Tarn wrote:

CX3 - If it fulfills the brief, then sure. The movie itself can take whatever form you like.

If you were going to do it around x3i, why not include interviews, explain why you and Arsyn (sorry, names slipping as usual....) are so passionate about the series? Really delve into it!

jstow222 - I'm afraid we're going to have to say no to copyrighted music. I know this makes it difficult for people, but as we're going to be hosting the movies, everything needs to be on the up-and-up. We will take into account when judging that it's very difficult to get original scores or stock music, though.

Can't wait! Glad to see so many of you working on it already. Spread the word to anyone you think might be interested, too, as this is open to everyone, not just FXhomers!
What about songs from the 1930's
sorta old copyright on that type of music.
Im really intrested in entering.
Regards,
Adam
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IndyAnimation wrote:

What about songs from the 1930's
sorta old copyright on that type of music.
Music copyright is very complicated. Both of the following can be copyrighted:

1. The composition itself (words / chords / notes)
2. The sound recording

For example, the copyright on Mozart's compositions have long passed. You can freely perform his works and make your own recording of your performance and sell it. You own the copyright on your new sound recording.

But if the London Symphony Orchestra performs one of Mozart's pieces, and it's then recorded by Sony Music and released on a CD, then you cannot rip that track and use it. That performance/recording is copyrighted, even though Mozart's compositions are in the public domain.

To make it more complex, copyright laws are different from country to country. So the exact time frame that decides when a composition (not the sound recording) is no longer copyrighted can vary.

But generally a composition's (words & music) copyright lasts for the life of the creator plus 70 years after he/she dies.

Take Elvis, for instance, who died in 1977. That means any music that he wrote will be in the public domain in 2047. But all that means is that you can perform his work and record yourself singing it -- it doesn't mean you can rip a track from one of Elvis' records/tapes/CDs and use a sound recording of Elvis himself. That's because the sound recordings are separately copyrighted.

The sound recordings of Elvis singing are owned by some music studio, and I'm sure their lawyers will be doing their best to renew the sound recording copyright for as long as they can.
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So how can we make a fan film of a film,
if we cant use its music?
Adam
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IndyAnimation wrote:

So how can we make a fan film of a film, if we cant use its music?
Exactly the same way that you can make a fanfilm of a film without using it's footage. smile For instance, it's very possible to make a fanfilm about E.T. without using any footage/music from the E.T. film.

It should be noted that the competition does not require you to make a fanfilm about a film. You can if you want, but you don't have to. It can be about anything that you're a fan of.

But if you want to make a fanfilm about a film, which is fine, then it comes down to your creativity to express why you are a fan of it -- but without using any illegal copyrighted materials.

Tarn also mentioned that the music will not be a major factor in judging.
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Lucky me, I'm doing a scary movie so composing music is easy.

But then again this will kind of distort people's views of me since it's supposed to be about something you like, and making this scary movie implies that I like people dying, which I don't.




*slips blood-covered knife into pocket and starts whistling*
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So, Just to make sure.

When you guys said fanfilm, you really meant "Any type of film about anything, being told anyway"?

Another words, I can enter a narrative drama?
Posted: Sun, 25th Dec 2005, 3:08pm

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Not quite, we mean show us what you're a fan of, and why. We want to see your enthusiasm for something. You can portray this anyway you want - in a narrative drama, or ian a documentary...whatever you like. But it needs to be about something specific that you are a fan of.
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So, Using a narrative drama setting, I could say I like "Cold war spy drama's", and thus, my film is an homage?
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Hendo wrote:


The reason they're against using copyrighted music is that using copyrighted music (or anything else) without the owner's permission is illegal.

Even if you credit it, it's still illegal if you use it without permission.

Even if you don't sell your film, it's still illegal if you use it without permission.

As has been announced, FXhome are going to host the top 10 entries. Hence, if those films contain copyrighted material then FXhome could also be liable.
Doesn't that contradict the fact that almost every film in the cinema section has copyrighted music in it?
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Doesn't that contradict the fact that almost every film in the cinema section has copyrighted music in it?
No because while they are listed in the FXHome cinema, the files themselves are not HOSTED by FXHome or the staff. There is a big difference when it comes to legality.
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So it's legal for you to host it, but not a company?

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Art of the Saber is hosted by FXHome.com. Just throwing that out there.
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Why do the winners have to be hosted by FXhome anyway? Why can't part of the criteria be that we host it ourselves?
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It's not legal either way. But if FXHome hosts it they will be held libel. If you were to host it, it would still be illegal, only now you'd be libel and is definitely against any web hosting companies T&C. But because they do not check it that thoroughly, the fxhome cinema is littered with copyrighted music.
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sfb, that has nothing to do with it, fan projects using copyrighted materials are used every day. They are also approved, most companies like having them out there. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. I understand it, sort of, in this case, but how far does it go? If we are making a Star Wars fanfilm, can we not include characters like Darth Vader and have titles like: Star Wars Episode etc. As long as you credit the author of the music and don't sell it in any way, it is perfectly legal. I sort of see how it is in this case.

Anyways, can we have a copyrighted version that breaks the rules (not for the contest) and pput that on the movie page, and then have the contest version using royalty free and original stuff? Can we get some answers FXH? We are getting answers from random users who really have no say, and the deadline is coming up. One who is planning would like to know these things. What can and can't we do?

Sorry I am asking so many questions, but I think the rules need a bit of updating or something. Something needs to be officially established copyright-wise, it is hard to not include copyrighted materials in, especially in my case. I have already started, and it would be horrible to find out that mine wouldn't be possible.
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Serpent wrote:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
This link explains a lot.


Breaking a copyright law in my mind would be considered wrong. Just because websites promote it and host it does not make it right. Look through your web hosting terms and conditions. You flat out can't host that stuff. Whether or not you do it is entirely up to the end user. I don't mean to be a tight ass but what is the use of creating two versions, if you can legitimately get royalty free stuff? Shouldn't the royalty free version be your best, if that's what FXHome is asking for?

I do agree that people need clarity in terms of character copyrights and title copyrights. But those vary significantly from the whole headache of musical copyrights.
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Listen, I don't want to annoounce what my project is, but say it was Star Wars: I would want to use classic Star Wars music, or recomposed versions to fit my film. It is very important to me that I use the official music in one version, I will follow the rules for the contest, but no matter what, I am releasing that version on the internet. I am just asking if I can host it and post it on the same page, I don't think there owuld be anything wrong with that. But in my case, the royalty free version would not be the best for the fans. I am doing this for the contest, but not to win, but because I am a fan. You'll see (hopefully) by Jan. 31st what I mean. But people put 2 versions of their films on here all the time, I don't see why this should be any different, but I am just asking.
Posted: Wed, 28th Dec 2005, 8:10pm

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Tarn wrote:


Tips: Your entry can be about anything. We want you to show us what you find most interesting and exciting in the world. Here are some ideas:

• Entertainment - a movie, book, song, sport, games etc...
How the heck can we use a song if we don't own it? Then if music videos are the only exception, would it be okay to just use ONE song? As long as there is a montage of shots with music, someone could always argue "Hey, it's a music video. It's following the rules."
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Serpent wrote:

As long as you credit the author of the music and don't sell it in any way, it is perfectly legal.
I wish that was the case, but it's not true. smile

If you don't believe me then I suggest you ask a lawyer.

Just because a bunch of Star Wars fanfilms have used John Williams' music and have not been taken to court does not make it legal.

AtomFilms, the people who run the official Lucasfilm-approved SW fanfilm contest, explicitly stated in their rules that entries could not include copyrighted Star Wars video/images/music.
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Yeah. I realize that now. But I still want information on what we can and can't do. Someone answered it earlier, or maybe I found it on the web or something. Can we seriously have more details regarding what we can and can't do? Tis is getting annoying.
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Would the judges prefer a Norwegian film with english subtitles, or a film with more or less crappy english?
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We posted a fanfilm what we produced for the german tv. Hope you enjoy it.

Greets Rene Altman

www.altmanfilm.de
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Using existing characters should be fine (As long as you don't use actual footage of those characters - ie, you need to create the materials yourself). While using characters and story ideas and passing them off as your own original ideas is very much frowned upon, using them either factually or as a form of parody is fine.
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Klut wrote:

Would the judges prefer a Norwegian film with english subtitles, or a film with more or less crappy english?
I can't speak for the judges but as someone who only speaks english, I would prefer a film with subtitles rather then bad english.
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Subtitles are always better than a bad dub/badly spoken English. No exceptions. (yes, it can be funny in kung fu movies, but otherwise subtitles are the only option)
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I have the first 2 scenes almost done on my fanfilm. Mine won't be done in time for this contest. I wonder if they will have another contest, maybe do it every year if the turnout is good. While I'm on the subject is cutting the background out of a movie legal? Does anyone know the law on this?
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I would say yes if I am thinking of what your talking about. If someone else filmed it, and you just take the actors out and use it for your greenscreen...I'd have to say since it's not your footage, you probably can't use it.
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GeneralGrievous wrote:

While I'm on the subject is cutting the background out of a movie legal? Does anyone know the law on this?
No, it's not legal. If you use it without permission, it's breaking copyright law.

I'm sure you can come up with a creative way to hint towards that movie (whatever it is), without using the movie's background. smile
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Not that this has anything to do with the event, but the 31st of January is my birthday. biggrin
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Tarn wrote:

jstow222 - I'm afraid we're going to have to say no to copyrighted music.
leaving this a bit late but better late than never: what if we were to get permission from the copyright holder? is that still a no go zone?
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If you have permission, then it's not a problem.
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Since not so many people are entering, is it possible that the fanfilm can be a bit over 5 min?

If not I will have to cut it down, and then it must loose many real good parts!
Please relpy to this.

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Posted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006, 3:29am

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Klut wrote:

Since not so many people are entering, is it possible that the fanfilm can be a bit over min?

If not I will have to cut it down, and then it must loose many real good parts!
Please relpy to this.
crazy the minimum length of the fan film is 30 seconds. Maximum 5 minutes...

EDIT: how would i let the team know that the copyright holder has given me permission?
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JMSG wrote:


EDIT: how would i let the team know that the copyright holder has given me permission?
You tell them?
I got permission to use some stuff from a guy, in return i mention his site in the credits.
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Can I ask;
HOW STRICT ARE YOU GUYS ON THE 5 MINUTE THING?
I've been able to edit down to 7 minutes, but I dont think I can cut out any more and have it still make sense!
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DannyAU wrote:

Can I ask;
HOW STRICT ARE YOU GUYS ON THE 5 MINUTE THING?
I've been able to edit down to 7 minutes, but I dont think I can cut out any more and have it still make sense!
That's what I thought.
They are very strict, as some people had the same problems as you (like me)
I think you can cut it down...
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Yes, the rules say that the film must be a maximum of 5 minutes. We can't really start bending the rules for people as thats not fair on the other entrants.

I'm sure you can trim a little bit off it. I've rarely seen a FXhome movie that's cut too short. More snappy editing would improve things in a lot of cases. The other alternative is to simply speed it up a bit. Increasing the speed by a few percent probably wouldn't be noticible to the viewer, but would shave a few seconds off the end.
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That are only 7 Minutes!! To sort it on 5 Minutes is very punctiliously.

I dont know a short film under 7 minutes.

If that is so extremly at fxhome you can cut my film. I don´t want to give it to you if you are so kiddy-like.
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AltmanKirstein wrote:

That are only 7 Minutes!! To sort it on 5 Minutes is very punctiliously.

I dont know a short film under 7 minutes.

If that is so extremly at fxhome you can cut my film. I don´t want to give it to you if you are so kiddy-like.
Pardon?
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AltmanKirstein wrote:

That are only 7 Minutes!! To sort it on 5 Minutes is very punctiliously.

I dont know a short film under 7 minutes.

If that is so extremly at fxhome you can cut my film. I don´t want to give it to you if you are so kiddy-like.
Rules are rules, either stick to them or don't enter. It's pretty simple.

And all of my cinema submissions are below 5 minutes, and hey! even everyone elses submission to this contest is 5 minutes or less so when the submissions are public I guess you'll know plenty.
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Whoa, February snuck up fast and I haven't even started my idea. Crap! I don't think there's enough time now...
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any news on how many entries so far...?

would love to know....
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Crap..looks like I'm not going to be able to do it..
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Dude, something just came through my mind..! I've actually made a pretty good short film, under 5 min. Only that I've used music from Batman Begins... sad Well, I'll put it into the cinema at least..

Oeyvind

PS: What do you think about www.filelodge.com as a free host?
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I was going to do an HL2 fanfilm so I sent an e-mail off to VALVe about 3 weeks ago, but I still haven't gotten a response.

I'm out of ideas, and I'd rather just not enter than ram up a piece of crap and look like an idiot. sad
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Yup, that means better odds for me smile
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Klut wrote:

Yup, that means better odds for me smile
dont get your hopes up klut......im still in.......we shall see who comes on top eh wink may the best fxhomer win.
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Question, I've taken "The Hit" and re-editted it, with a new original score, and taken absolutely everything I can out, the movie is now 5:25, down from it's original 7 minutes. Is this acceptable?
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Ask yourself this: Did I break a rule? If the answer is yes, then it isn't acceptable.
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well, OK looks like we can't enter (me and Bryce007)
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I'm not sure the question was directed at you serpent. But either way, its currently irrelevant.
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I now have a nice looking fanfilm made into a trailer form. I've used a temporary score with copyrighted music, but that will change soon as I'm just about to start mixing our composers score in. Hopefully all of you guys will like it. There's some dialogue in finnish so I subtitled it.

Looking forward to seeing everybodys efforts!
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Once I have submitted, do I get som kind of replay (so I know that you've registered my submission)?
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I'm having a little trouble encoding my video in Divx and getting the "full" qulity out of it.. i have it at uncompressed and it looks perfect.. then when i encode in divx and the qulity looks rather.. pathetic.. in comparison?

I'm going to try out, quicktime and divx a few more times.. but any "tips" and are those the only choices i have?
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Just to be on the safe side : We could send the videolinks untill tuesday 23.59 - UK time ?
It will be a very close call ...

Cheezyfilms : how do you encode ?

WaveX
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with divx i've tryed there encoder, other encoders and my softwares encoder... with quicktime.. i have only tryed editing softwares... quicktime comes out great.. but the file size is huge.. (1 gig or over)

I'm more than likely just going to go with divx and have my film degrade in qulity.. does file size matter? (definitly not 1 gig... but 70mb or so?)