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Akimbo

Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 9:56pm

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A short film I helped a friend out with. I edited and did all camera work, and also partially helped direct a few scenes but my friend Tim did most. This short takes place in a city where much crime occurs.

Hope you all enjoy.


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Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 10:16pm

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Easily worthy of a Five Star Rating CX3, during Akimbo you've pulled off several visual effects and ideas which I've never seen work in an amateur film before making this one of my personal top ten fxhome movies, and one that I think alot of people looking to make action movies could learn from.

The negatives are:
There are a couple of rough cuts that don't flow perfectly normally during the scenes where the antagonist is talking or drinking. These scenes also suffer from the worst audio in the movie. The voiceover/narrative also suffers from being too quiet at points.

Though all in all, excellent stuff CX3. Give both yourself and Tim Wen a big pat on the back.

-Hybrid.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 10:51pm

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This is by far the best movie which you've been associated with and which has been on this site.

The crux of my previous criticism, is that you (collective you) have been trying way too hard to be cool. In this movie however, not only is the dialog not saturated with the blatant desire to be do a remake of blade etc, but its concise and eloquent, delivered well and believable. Furthermore the pace is constant and the dialog isn't over-thought or clunky. That pretty much covers all my previous criticism. This is really good work.

There are however issues....

Once again, this movie suffers from your (collective your) inexplicable desire to make all kung-fu sound effects far too loud. Please stop pandering to the moronic breed of hyperactive, AOL-using, action-lusting, unculture, fickle children which still swear by The Matrix as the best film of all time. Its so 5 years ago.

The beardy bodyguard who sat behind the desk for most of the film overacted. He also reminded me too much of Jason Lee, so i can't take him seriously razz

Aside from the volume of your completely unecessary kung-fu sounds, there was also a bizarre lack of coherance: the hitman approaches the guards out side, kung-fus them, then shoots them. Wtf? How unsubtle is that? Perhaps he wasn't trying to be subtle - why bother with Teh Fu at all then? Rather confusing.

The clip of beardy guy being shot off the back of his chair was also slightly too long since i became acutely aware that the hitman was receiving absolutely no recoil effects from the gun he was using.

I'm being a b*tch about this stuff because you're big boys now and its clear theres little else to b*tch about. For the most part these are nit-picking problems but I really do think you need to do something about your sound effects. For that sole reason, i'm giving this 4, not 5 stars.

Other than this, though, very well done.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 11:43pm

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There is no doubt in my mind that this is the best action film on FXHome to date. It was all very well done, and overall a very great film. I just wish all movies that came through the cinema were at this level, not that I'm helping out with that cause...

There isn't much else to say on the critisism front. Personally, I don't think the kung-fu sounds were overused, just a little too loud.

There were some excellent sequences and shots in there, and I think this movie deserves the Number One spot all the way.
Posted: Wed, 14th Dec 2005, 11:48pm

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Thank you all for taking the time to view and comment on this film.

HH: Yeahhh.. hah, I know the audio is bad in the bar scenes. And I even cleaned it up too, you should've heard it before that ha. We're most likely going to run some voice overs on that later on. I'll try and boost up the v.o narrative as well. Thanks again man.

Xcession: Thanks for the comments as well.. I think ha. For some reason you've always had it out for us in trying to be cool or whatever.. Granted, my avatar w/ the shades isnt helping that claim much hah but anyways we (i) really could give two sh!ts about being cool. We just make what we see in our heads. We dont really do this for a popularity contest hah, we do it because we love it.

As for the sound effects, I guess its diff strokes for diff folks. Maybe I'll go back and tone it down a lil but prob not much. It's all just a choice. Also, there was really no kunf fu in this film hah. He just stepped on the back of the guys leg. And who said he was tryin to be subtle? hah Hes a cold killer... To say how he feels in the words of Cartman.. "I do what I wahnt'." Anyways, thats all the rebutle I have in me. Glad you enjoyed the film somewhat though!

-Chris

...even th you know this is me already cuz it says CX3 at the top...

EDIT CUZ MAREK POSTED RIGHT WHEN I DID:

Marek: Hah, thanks for the compliments man.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 12:08am

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Agree with everything that's been said, can't really add anything, except for the fact that I'm not quite sure what the story is (probably because some of the lines are low volume with louder music, so I can't turn the sound up without bursting my eardrums smile )
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 1:25am

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It didn't really do it for me... I have to give it some credit though. Here is how I break it down.

Cinematography: 4.5/5 Cobra producitons knows how to use a camera... that is for sure. There were a few shots I thought could have been framed better but all in all pretty awesome

Acting: 2.5/5 nobody sucked but nobody was awesome

Effects: 3.5/5 muzzles looked good. The head shot looked terrible. I also noticed that he didn't react to the recoil at all which bothered me.

Writing: 2/5 concept was good but it was too simplistic and a little cliche'. The end also was strange to me. I know you were going for irony but it just felt abrupt.

The way I felt about the film was it was all polish and no shine. It is so obvious you know what you are doing visually its the other kinks that need to be worked out. it was "all sloppy... but no joe. You have to have both to make a manwich my friend." biggrin

Now don't think I am trying to be a critical jerk. The other cobra productions movies are some of my favorites in the cinema. I feel like you guys are close to pro... which means you should be judged on that level.

cheers
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 2:03am

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4/5.

The story and action didn't really appeal to me, but as always I enjoyed the wonderfully-mastered cinematography and the near-flawless editing. I don't necessarily think this is the best project we've seen you do and/or been associated with, as I myself think of you as a better director than this films, but this is a definite marvel, so kudos on a terrific job.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 2:05am

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Thanks Pooky and Nana.

I'm glad you enjoyed the cinematography/editing mostly. That means that I did my job. The only thing CobPro was asked to do was just shoot and edit. We didnt write or anything else so I cant really say much on the story. But thanks you all.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 2:09am

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Nice job CX3. You have access to production values and actors that the rest of us can only dream of. I liked the cinematography. The audio was weak at times, and that brought down the overall production value a tad. Audio is the trickiest of beasts, let's face it. The intro felt too long, despite the nice eye candy. I did have one logical problem with one scene. When the killer bursts into the room where the 3 guys have been talking about him, why didn't the guy in the chair unload his clip on him? He clearly had the time. Anyway, it felt and looked like a professional production. I hope someone notices soon and you get a paying gig. The gun kata stuff really isn't my bag, but it did look professional. "He uses the gun like an extension of his hand." reminded me of a line from Equilibrium, which uses a lot of the gun kata stuff.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 5:06am

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4/5
What stopped this from being a 5/5 for me was the dialogue. It was just a little dry, and uhh, a little dry mostly, and they said f*** one to many times, and it didn't feel like a part of thier dialogue, it felt forced. Also throughout most of the movie, the sound did not match the movement of the lips.
But that were the only problem. I did, like however, the cinamatography, the phone conversation, and the color grading, the action and everything else. Your did a pretty good job on that, and same with your director. So whosever main vision it was over all, was pretty good. He just needs to write the dialogue a little better, and a get a slightly better performance out of his actors. I think they could have been a little more nonchalant with it, and maybe only had one tense guy. But overall not bad.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 5:59am

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4/5
Really enjoyed this - the best thing I've seen on here in a fair while.

Pros:

Great editing / action choreography - A real Rodriguez/Woo sense of pace and energy to it.

Nice mixture of shots, from smooth tracks to edgy handheld.

Leading man was charismatic and believable - part Terminator, part Chow Yun-Fat.

Liked the structure & use of flashback, and the dialogue worked for me.

Cons:

The opening credits were WAY too long, and dull with it. They either need trimming or a lot more style.

Lighting was flat in the office scene.

No gratuitous nudity. Try harder next time.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 8:07am

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Chris, I gotta tell you man, this is by far the best work of videography I seen on fx home. The piece had a type of noir film like style. I was captured from the opening dialogue and continously drawn in. The dialogue was almost similar to a Robert Rodriguez "Desperado-esque story" excellent in holding your audience captive-Kudo's to the writer. I seen all my x3i favorites, happy to see their acting skills extend beyond x3i, they looked good!

Editing wise the peice was on time, sound worked for me. I think it's important to note that people will comment good or bad, you just keep shooting and you will far out pace these arm chair critics. The real work lies in shooting and being active, if anyone has ever shot a feature or short, they would know all the work involved. For you guys to pull this off without a hitch, time and time again, I say that's all gravy! I'm proud of the entire crew and people you make films with, it's a blessing to have that many people share your passion. Keep up the great work, 5/5 from me!
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 8:56am

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Yeah sorry - i was unduly harsh with my "trying to be cool" thing.

Having thought about it more, i think my issue is not that you're trying to be cool (obviously i have no idea whats going through your minds) but rather than the finished product looks like far too much effort went into meticulously replicating concepts from other films which are cool.

Akimbo is packed with nods to more action films than i can shake a boom mic at, so when that many cliches (in the least derogative sense possible) are packed into such a short space of time, it does begin to feel like its out of some kind of subconsious desparation to replicate the cool you felt in other films.

If this is because your production team are trying to "make it" with these films, my advice would be to tone it all down a notch and have patience. You're evidently very talented, so you have nothing to worry about on that front.

What i think your productions lack, is subtlety. They invariably have plenty of action, plenty of badass minions or 'baddies', lines designed to make everyone involved seem hard as nails and always a main character who is the epitomy of solid. None of the above are done by halves either. I don't recall ever seeing - for example - a weasely 'baddy' who gets left till last then gutted painfully after p*ssing himself and crying for mummy. I don't remember seeing your main hero taking any kind of beating which he doesn't rebound from (exception for death of hero in Akimbo). I don't recal any non-hot women with flat chests, or any guns which don't look like hand-cannons when fired, or any raw fist-fighting brawls, or any character development to speak of, beyond making anyone seem hard or cold, or a combination of the two.

I really did enjoy Akimbo, so i'm trying to write this as honestly as i can without sounding unnecessarily sh*tty. What i'd really love to see, is Cobra productions do something with a bit more tact, more depth and more...je ne sais quoi.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 9:35am

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As a notorious action fiend, I feel this is the Absolute Best Action film on fx currently, Due to:

Professional camera moves, GREAT editing, The Lead actor REALLY looks the part. Kickass gunplay.


Then there are some negatives as well, which follow:

First minute and sixty seconds, nothing but flashes of T&A happens, The overacting by various actors (Not the lead, he was excellent), the Somewhat disjointed storyline, The ending. Most of the lighting.


Now, This absolutely Smokes anything i've seen on fxhome as of yet in professional look and feel.

However, It felt signifigantly Too similar to a mix between "The Killer" and "desperado", almost to a fault, But, Because I'm comparing it to most other movies on here, Its not a huge deal.

The Extensive amount of swearing did sound/seem forced, But at least you guys didn't wimp out and throw a bunch of "SHUCKS! SHOOT! DARN!"s in there.

Overall, this is a huge improvement over anything i've seen you do yet. Very impressive.

Is it just me, or did that dude who got the gun in the mouth look 12?
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 9:53am

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You're indeed getting better and better with every film. This was very well done. Good lighting, good camera, very good editing made this look quite professional. It also felt pretty cool.

My only issue is the pacing in places, wich could have been a bit higher. The guys in the office kept kinda repeating themselves after a while, but never the less, a solid piece of filmwork wich kept me watching though it's length.

Easily one of the best "finished" actionfilms on here.

Congrats!
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 2:20pm

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I loved that music in the credits, any where we can get ahold of it?
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 3:27pm

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I think the main let down of this film was the sound quality, both of the guns and the actors. But apart rom that I liked it smile
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 8:42pm

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I watched this last night and I was very impressed. The action sequences were beautifully done. They left me with a sheer feeling of brutallity, which I liked. Today you see to many fight sequences that people try to turn into a long and elaborate ballet so to speak, so it was refreshing to see this style used.

I also think the flashback and lighting to this film was very well done. For some reason the look seemed to enhance its overall mood.

My only criticism about the film is that the dialogue and pacing lacked in certain parts, as others have mentioned. The one office seen was long and it seemed as if they kept repeating the same thing. "F*** this, F*** that" wink

With that said, one of my favorite parts of this movie would have to be the music. It really brought my into the film, and actually got me pumped up for some reason. I noticed in the credits that you made the music. Very nice job Chris.

Great movie keep up the amazing work as always! 5/5 from me.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 9:47pm

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I think it looked beautiful over all, but thats about it. Oh and the directing was pretty good too. Yeah the dialogue was from other movies so that kinda took me out of the movie and the acting was average, better then most here but average. I think the action scenes could have been better. It looks like these guys have soon some good action movies have not add much to them.
Posted: Thu, 15th Dec 2005, 11:35pm

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Very good overall. I think the cutting, the music and the overall experience on this film is almost flawless.

An astonishing production!
Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005, 4:33am

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was ok.. i like the filming style, cutting. and what not.. what i didnt like was his unlimited ammo, infinit number of hand guns.. extremly slow reflex's of the "bad guys" was like playing golden eye (007 game made in like 1998).. and ending was kind of lame too.. Acting was decent/good some parts i wasnt sure if they were trying to be funny.. or what?

OVER all.. was decent film prob better than allot of others.
Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005, 11:12pm

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Pretty cool flashy action flick, I really was taken out of it though because of all the forced sex appeal, dont think it was really needed or really drove the story at all, I think the shot that bugged me the most was the scene when the lead character sits back down in bed the camera is just showing his chest for way too long with no good reason, the girl dancing during the credits? I still dont know what thats all about, sexy but seems un-needed. Kick ass fighting choreograpy(sp?) good job melding the special fx with the footage. The ages of some of the hitmen did not seem to mesh well, a bit unbelivable, however most of them did a good job, just too young.

Overall good flick.
Posted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005, 12:16am

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YOYOYO my Man..WAZZUPPP !! I LOVED THIS ! YOu know I am your BIGGEST fan. I thought this was your BEST movie. Great camerawork. Dialogues are getting better. AND DAMN, that girls got booty and curves biggrin !!!

anyways, I think it was really nice, that you tried this...forshadowing technique at the beginning (the hot girl turns out to be the killer in the end)
Great intense action. Especially love the bit, where the asian dude is running along the hall. THATS how I would expect a "splinter cell" movie to be...

YET, the ONLY thing you really have to work on is AUDIO. In the movie world, EVERY AUDIO NOISE is FAKE (except for dialogues, but they are also mostly redone somehow).
For example: when the guy lights his cigarette, one doesnt hear the clicking sound. The clicking sound is always quite loud in movies.

All in all, I enjoyed this alot, THX MAN, had great fun watching it.

5/5

cheerio mate,
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what are the songs u used???
Posted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005, 8:08pm

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Hey guys, first off thanks for all the comments that I have received thus far. I kept reading them and saying to myself.. "Okay, i'm going to reply 2night.." "Okay, i missed last night, I'll reply this night now.." Aaaand 20 posts later here I am.. Procrastination is great I tell ya ha. Anyways, on to some of the specific points in feedback given..

ragnar - I don't really know why the guy in the chair doesnt fire away hah. Now that you point that out, it kinda bugs me now ha. But I guess you see that stuff happen in movies all the time. Doesnt justify it, but thats the only counter I have to that question hah. (Xmen 1 -- Jean Grey and Prof X are outside of the building where Magneto and the Botherhood are. The Cops are all around and Prof X posseses Sabertooth to hold Magneto cuz he cant do it to Magneto because of his helmet. And they end up getting away... Now whats stoping Jean the Telekinetic from simply lifting that stupid helmet off of Magnus's head? hah. Thats one of them that gets me.)

Gnome - Yeah, I can see how you think the dialogue is a little off and weak at times. And also I agree that there are a wee too many cuss words dropped. I didnt really realize when we were shooting. I was more focused on framing the whole time or I would have said something. Hopefully I can get the writer on here and reply to the story stuff because thats not really my area of this film. He's in Taiwan right now, hopefully I can reach him soon.

Alex - We've gotten both that the credits are way too long and that the credits are liked and sucks people in. We're still workin on solvin that issue. They want to do one more cut because they are trying to get distribution and such on this. We're taking most of the comments with us on that.

Eddie - Thanks for every thing you said man. I'm glad you picked up on the Rodriguez type feel we were going for.

Bryce - Much kudos to the compliments in the professional looking area (visual wise). After reading your comment about the credits as well, Im starting to think that I should be able to trim off a couple names and credits in the beginning and hopefully get a better effect for the audience. I'll prob try that out soon.

Sollthar - Thanks a mill for taking the time to fit this in on your viewing list and commenting as well. I can only imagine how busy you are right now ha, and then it makes my head start to hurt so I stop imagining hah. As well, I'll be taking the comments and suggestions back into the editing suite with me.

Frozenpede - Thanks man, I put all the music together in Apple Soundtrack. If you all would like me to host the music or send, I can.
Posted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005, 8:09pm

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Intermission: Please feel free to stretch and or grab yourself a beverage at this point in time...
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And we're back...

Chipmandoo - I agree that some of the audio is bad, voice wise but I didnt think the gun quality was that bad confused

Portal - Again, thanks for the positive comments you gave, much appreciated. Also, once again, I agree with the excessive F-Bombs that were dropped throughout the film ha. And thanks much for diggin the music. At first the director wanted like a techno style and luckily I talked him into using something else for this peice ha.

Saul - Thanks for the feedback man. Simple n' straight to the point. I like it hah.

Sigs - Thanks as well man!

Cheezy - I started to notice the ammo prob as well hah. But I hopefully thought that people see passed that and try and enjoy the film. Also, some of the parts the writer did intend to be funny. **spoiler**

Like the guy who gets shot in the head in the yeah circle and when he steals the covers

**End Spoiler**

Digital - Yeah, the whole girl dancing was what the writer wanted to be as the opening credits. Im guessing it was more of an artistic choice than sleezy tho. He's not that kinda guy ha.

Devil - Haha, whats goin on man. Glad you dug this film. I'll also pass on the compliments to Christina hah. Also, taking consideration the comments on audio. I'll send you the final cut when it's done to see what you think. (Hell, I'll prob just re-link the file and put it up here if everyone would like to see.) It wouldnt be for a while tho..

Godfather - I put together the tracks using Apple Soundtrack

Xcession - I completely skipped that post ha, thats my fault. I prob thought it was the first

I don't recall ever seeing - for example - a weasely 'baddy' who gets left till last then gutted painfully after p*ssing himself and crying for mummy. I don't remember seeing your main hero taking any kind of beating which he doesn't rebound from (exception for death of hero in Akimbo). I don't recal any non-hot women with flat chests, or any guns which don't look like hand-cannons when fired, or any raw fist-fighting brawls, or any character development to speak of, beyond making anyone seem hard or cold, or a combination of the two.
I agree with you on some instances but sometimes you have to think about what the audience will appeal too. I mean, who wouldve wanted to Blade cry or die.. in the prequel? hah. The reason he was the way he was is because he was based off of a pre existing character. We've also had the main roles dies in our films before though. For example Fallen Angel and Hope. When considering X3i tho, you really wouldnt want to do that because of 1.) Lack of actors 2.) Its not that appropriate for a continuing series. If anything, it would happen in the season finale. And also, the guns that we use are used for reason. For example, Daywalker, they're vamp hunters, ofcourse they would go in there packing some serious heat. Maybe you would like something of a diff genre from us than the serious action. Me and AJ are planning some suspense dramas for next year when I'm out there with him in Cali. And hopefully it will interest you and a few others that a certain kid with suspenders and a goofy walk will definitely be returning this fall ha... Thats all on that right now tho wink Anyways, if anything, thanks for being real with us in your comments and saying how you really feel on certain works of ours. Sure it can come off as hostile at times, but it really does help us in the long run.

Thanks again to all that responded so far..
Posted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005, 10:49pm

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smile thanks for replys, lol im glad you did your comedy on purpose and didnt mean for it to be serious.. haha i was sitting there like wtfffff???? (covers thing) lol confused me winkwink good stuff though
Posted: Mon, 19th Dec 2005, 10:12am

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really really cool stuff here CX3, I feel like this only solidifies my feelings that FXHome movies are becoming more and more proper. At first I noticed the excessive swearing, but really, if you look at the context, it would almost be wierd if these guys didn't swear.

anyway, long story short, this movie kicks ass, and I gave it a 5. Woo!
Posted: Mon, 19th Dec 2005, 10:18am

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Akimbo is fantastic - 5/5 from me!

It would seem all the comments I could make have already been made, so I'll just say I really enjoyed it and can't wait for whatever you've got lined up next!

Some great movies appearing on FXhome at the moment. A new Golden Age of movies here I hope...
Posted: Mon, 19th Dec 2005, 10:39am

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Agreed, very slick stuff. Many pro movies fail to pull off this kind of action, and I think this is probably the first time I've seen it successfully accomplished in a low-budget/'amateur' movie.

Really shows off your cinematography skills, CX3. Congrats to you and the rest of the Akimbo team.
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What did you guys use for the guns?

Airsoft?
Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2005, 2:57am

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Defintely a 5/5 the acting was great! sh*t I need me to find good ones like that. The Grading was excelent. Keep it up man!
P.S You should start sending your stuff to film festivals and get ur stuff out there at least to Atom films Dont you want to have a cobra productions billboard in times square ! I would!
Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2005, 11:20pm

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This was a great peice guys, well done. The cinematography, grading and effecs were all solid and the script was original. This kind of thing could definately be extended into a feature film down the track. To me the only downside was the inconsisancy of the actors. Your main actor was terrific, but some of the supporting cast let him down by having forced, un-naturalistic delivery of what was well-written dialogue. From experience I know that the hardest part about a low budget short is to get decent actors, but this is the most important thing in my opinion. Go to drama schools and put up notices because they're all so desperate for exposure they take what they can get and work for free. I know Ive spent a long time on this one aspect, but I feel that with better performances from the support cast this film would have been a much more suitable candidate for some international festivals. Its important that the characters look like characters and not like a bunch of your friends who you put in your movie because they were handy. That said, it remains a great film.
Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2005, 3:42am

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THIS MOVIE IS AWESOME ESPECIALLY THE WRITING AND DIRECTING!
ha hi I'm tim, the writer/director. I know a lot of professional directors who will strongly defend any criticism as an ¡§artistic intention¡¨. (try it on any comment: ¡§you thought it sucked dick?¡¨ ¡§well¡Kthat was my artistic intention¡¨) so I¡¦m going to respond, ehm I mean justify, to a few of the cons with as much honesty as I can:

Swearing
i just got the DVD yesterday and I did realize alot of swearing. There wasn¡¦t that much swearing in the script that I remember but I did tell the actors to go along with whatever they thought the character would act and say. I probably didn't catch it at the time because I was also swearing a lot. Since they swear every other word, we probably can't edit around it. A lesson to me as a director and writer that I should¡¦ve actively monitored how much they deviated from the script and whether deviation was positively coherent to my intention.

The Actors
In terms of drama school and finding cast¡K you¡¦d be surprise how little Columbus, Ohio has to offer (would have been smaller without Jason Morris). We tried to find those theatre schools but not very much response. The most response was from craigslist.com, and a lot of them weren¡¦t very experience actors. Most of the cast were friends that we dressed up and threw in front of the camera. And knowing that, and hearing DannyAU say ¡§not bunch of your friends who you put in your movie because they were handy¡¨ makes me proud as a director that I was able to bring that out of friends who had little/none acting experience. It also makes me excited to how much I will be able to achieve with professional actors.

Actors being too young
This is huge, no matter how well our actors act if they don¡¦t look the part, no one is going to believe them and say it's because of their acting.
So that being said they did look a bit young esp. Joe wood, yellow (the guy who gets a gun stuck in his mouth). Joe wood was cast very last minute. Everyone fell through, so it was either going to be him or a mannequin. but I still believe he did a wonderful job, but yes with all honesty, he didn¡¦t look the part.

For Xcession who commented on Blue¡¦s beard. That was beyond my control. I met him a few times before and he was clean shaved. When he showed up with a jungle thick beard¡K I just cried, I mean, sighed.

Acting
If I paid the actors with cash (and not in Bw3 chicken wings) and they were a bit more dedicated, we would have rehearsals for them to memorize their lines and get into character. But most of the actors were cast last minute, they really only read the script one or two hours before shooting. This could be the reason the dialogue seems disconnected because they didn¡¦t have any time to rehearse together.

Yes, Blue, the hot headed overreacted character was intentional. He was one of the types that tried to control everything else when he couldn¡¦t control the situation. He needed to persuade other people that Gail could be killed in order persuade himself.


Style
Alex reeve hit bull¡¦s eye. I pitched it to Chris as a mix between Rodriguez¡¦s Desperado and Woo¡¦s Hardboiled. I thought the credits were a bit long myself but we didn¡¦t have time to change it before I left. This is an easy problem to solve.

Sound
I should have hired a person to do sound but I didn¡¦t have enough money. Even then some of the audio would have still been worthless. The bank scene¡K. It just so happens that there was a concert going on next door. It was the only time we could get for that location. So we had to bite our lip and throw the audio out. I¡¦m sure Chris tried to save the remaining audio that wasn¡¦t on LSD, but if possible (please say yes chris) we could do some vo and patch some of our sad orginal audio to put in the film

As for the sound effects, I agree, we should try some different sound effect and different gun sounds. I didn¡¦t really give the editor any direction on this so it was his artistic intention and I don¡¦t mind it.

As for why-are-the-bad-guys-dumb
Yes Blue is supposed to have his hand up pointing the gun at Gail. And the edit I had in mind is a bit faster. That might have helped a bit. As for the ppl dressed in black, the bad guys are supposed to shoot back! but we ran out of time to shoot that.


The reason you guys though the office scene was repetitive was because we were suppose to add a bunch of action of Gail killing people for every time blue brags that he¡¦s going to kill Gail. I didn¡¦t have the time to shoot it since Chris was only willing to shoot for 4 days.

Man if you think the action shots were sweet. I have a crap load more.

Bad guys¡K
There was so many more action planned but we ran out of bad people to die. I died 2 times (I¡¦m the Asian dude who spins into the bushes), the producer Fisher died once, the one guy called Preston died 4 times! if we had more new faces we could have had dared to show more reaction shots and so forth.

I think the ratio of dialogue and plain killing action is a bit low. If it¡¦s possible rally with me and beg Chris for another shooting day in the winter! (come on man me love you long time) All the action here is just a tip of the iceberg. I got Gail shooting though walls and crap load more. Everyone please beg!

Finally I know it¡¦s a long msg or even a memoir. This is my second film, and it¡¦s all a learning process to me. i enjoyed working with Chris and Josh on this project i hope there will be more project like these (paid) down the line. I take all your constructive criticism to heart to better myself as a director/writer. please post more comments !
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Hey i just thought id say, great job!

Some of the editing needs cleaning up along with some of the sound, but there's not much to really complain about, you have done a great job! I loved the way its cut together in the last few minutes of the movie, and hell it had that real hit man, can't touch me feel. A walking death machine, and some of the shots of when he's just walking give it that real kick ass look, i loved the guns, costume/clothes you set him up in, and the grading was good. I'm putting this as one of my top favourites and i'm going to watch it on my phone, to show others down the pub. You guys rock!

Make some more films please
Posted: Thu, 22nd Dec 2005, 10:23pm

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Hey,

This movie wasn't all that bad. Most of the action flicks that are posted around here end up being really corny...this one was probably the best I've seen.

I really enjoyed the way the camera paid attention to small details, such as the hitman's pack of cigs flying onto the table and then having his lighter slide perfectly under the pack a few seconds later...or how the guy was slamming down his drink toward the end of the flick. I also enjoyed the part where the guys are talking about killing the hitman and at the last second, some goofy looking dude chimes in with them...only to get his brains blown out one second later.

I only had two real complaints...first, the swearing was a bit overkill in the movie. Saying "fuck" every other word kind of takes away from the substance of the flick.

My last complaint, and only because I'm big on spelling....the card at the beginning of the movie read "Your Fucked!"...it shouldve said "You're Fucked!"

Other than that...great film. Keep up the good work.
Posted: Fri, 23rd Dec 2005, 10:58pm

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Very impressive.
I'd love to see this on DVD, where it's not marred by compression.
Posted: Tue, 27th Dec 2005, 5:47am

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Wow, sweet movie.

I liked the music composition (Jam Pack #4?).
Also, incredible lighting.

The only reason why I gave it a 4 instead of a five was all the unnessary f bombs. I understand when they are used to put more color into a character, but in this case it took away from the characters because I was focusing more on the f word for every other word rather than focusing on the fact that their characters are angry/nervous/hardcore. That is the only thing smile

Well Done!
Posted: Sat, 31st Dec 2005, 4:04am

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This film is fantastic!

The effects = excellent
The Direction = excellent
The editing = excellent
The score = excellent
The acting = Good but not the best, over come buy how good the film is on a whole tho.

5/5 From me!

The best part is at the end when the main bad guy flicks the card! from then on its awsome! Not to mention the build up aswell!

Well done on a great job guys!!
I loved every second of it!
Posted: Sat, 31st Dec 2005, 7:35am

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I loved it, when it first started in the bedroom and I hear all the background noise I knew it was gonna be good. I felt the action all the way through it and couldn't wait for the next scene. I love the bad guy poping the card out when he was talking, that was an awesome idea to put in.

The score-awesome
editing-awesome
effects-awesome
acting- was some of the best I've seen in a long time, but could have been a little better.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2006, 1:02am

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Long time visitor, but I couldn't remember my account name/pass so I just made a new one.

Thought I'd start commenting on the work here at fXhome, some of it's well worth the effort.

I've been catching glimpses of COBRA PRODUCTIONS work here for a while now, even went to the site to check out the man behind the scenes and the demo reel and I can say right off:

I think your directorial work is headed in a good direction.

Good job.

On to Akimbo:

I'd rate this a three out of five here on FXhome.

Directing 3/5: Good. Shows that the director has some sense of how to visually walk through a script. There were parts where the continuity of action weren't streamlined enough, but overall it was actually decent. Example: The three collar popping thugs being wasted. The three henchmen outside being wasted. The beginning also might've run too long for a short.

Cinematography 3/5: Good. The lighting at times wasn't as good, while at the same time the shot compositions made me remain seated for the duration. This is probably what really held the attention of most people as well as myself. I didn't fast forward at any moment. Kudos.

Writing: 1/5: Bad. Writing is number one, in industry and especially with me as I'm a writer and I can see immediately when something's very poorly written. I think another guy mentioned the F BOMB in this short, and it's not even that... but the insertion of the F BOMB in the wrong places. That didn't even bother me, but the dialogue was very very cookie cutter. The story didn't move in a linear fashion, I had no idea whom Gail was, who Akimbo wants to be... the characters were just there to die and nothing else.

Acting: 3/5: Eh. The two guys with the facial hair were actually pretty good, so each of them get a star. The delivery of dialogue from BOTH of these actors was just fine, especially the crass fellow spouting the F word plenty of times; he actually made me laugh. He played his part well. The other people were actually really stiff, but on a budget, what can you do. So it's a three out of five instead of a two.

Effects 5/5: I don't really get into special effects, but with action movies it's probably a must. They're good. That's all about that.

Music/Sound 4/5: This is where alot of shorts fail. There was only one part where I could hear sound failing, and that's when the three guys are talking about Gail in the room. It sounded hollow, but maybe that was compression issues. Otherwise, the sound in the bedroom in the beginning was actually impressive. So to the point where I could hear what I needed to hear. Good job on the sound quality. As for the score itself, decent... and expected. No qualms there.

Editing 3/5: Not superior but well worth the watch. It does need to be cleaned up, but it's decent enough to keep the attention centered on the action. The story wasn't there... but the action sure was.

Overall 3/5: That's what my rating was. I think the Cobra Productions team is pretty cool. I'd love to keep making shorts all the time, but as a writer, I get too caught up in a good story, which hinders me from actually getting anything done. So hats off to you. You're inspiring and I can't wait to see the next job.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006, 5:48am

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i don't understand what happened to the 27 grand? Did you pay the actors or something?
Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006, 6:47am

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Thanks to all that commented once again. Tim might get back on here to respond once again. To all the compliments on editing, cinematography and sound, thank you.

Chase - What 27 grand are you talking about?... Do you even have the right thread? ha
Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006, 5:46pm

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hi, CX3. How long it take you to edit the short film?

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Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006, 1:37am

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Firstly Tim, congratulations on a sound effort. You should be proud of your film.
Here is my two-penny's worth and I hope it is the type of feedback your have been asking for:

Your 12 sec concept piece is sick. Absolutely.

The 12 min short:
Choreography is fantastic. Great imagination. It all seemed original to me. My favorites were the 12 sec concept piece reload action and the gun out of the bag move.

Editing: Ultra slick in the action scenes. Well done. You've used some classic HK style cuts.
The three right hand men had too much screen time. They did not have the charisma or acting skills to warrant such lengthy screen time. I would have preferred to see Gail take out another 10 men in this amount of time. In one take, one stooge actually glances right into the camera.
Overall as a piece I would have re-cut the 3 stooges scene right down. Tim, maybe I'm reading too much into this but were Gail's scenes meant to be a flash back before the sexy lady topped him? Again a recut to emphasize this more may help. Opening credits took too long.


Wardrobe: Sound effort again. Gail looks the stereotypical part in his 'transporter' outfit.

Cinematography: Very good in places. Close ups of main villain were great.

Music: Good throughout. Re-master the sound. Found the phone conversation difficult to make out.

Lead male: Great cast. Where did you find him? Looks the part (face / body). He moves well and shoots extremely well.

Story: Weak, but then again many people find it hard to write original material to set up the action scenes.

Misc:
When Gail took out the three collar popping perps the hostage woman should have acted somewhat. She seemed too static.
FX: the digital effects were good. Next time pay more attention to your gun props. The collar-popping villain raised his pistol to the camera and the barrel looked like a plastic toy gun (unless this was what you intended). The single biggest investment I would make would be to purchase gas powered blowback airsoft pistols. This tip applies to all filmmakers serious about making a shooter. And Tim, you are one serious shooter of shooters.

I have read the thread and know that you have the passion to learn more and improve your craft.

Keep up the good work. It was a great pleasure to watch your film. Everyone, take heed.
Posted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006, 9:55am

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Spinozin, you do know that the guy Tim isn't part of the forums, right? Chris, AKA CX3 is the forum goer, and he also did cinematography and editing on this as well. So pretty much everything good you had to say (editing, framing, and such) should go towards him and everything bad (story complaints) should go to the 'not-gonna-answer' Tim.
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Thank you Ben3308 for the correction.

Just want to use this opportunity to thank 'the entire team' behind Akimbo in producing a valiant short.
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Thanks Spinozin for the compliements. (Haha, and thanks ben for the correction as well). Question tho Spinozin.. If you liked the film so much, why did you vote it Zero stars?? hah, you do realize thats the worst rating you could give a movie on here and 5 stars being the best rating you could give a movie on here... right? ha
Posted: Tue, 17th Jan 2006, 2:48am

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Great special effects, great camera work, great editing, GREAT lighting, however, the story is lacking. What does the protagonist want? What is standing in his way? What are the consequences if he doesn't get what he wants? Always say no to the goodguy. Watch Spiderman 2. You will see this. Its a great film because the writer always says no to Peter Parker, not because of the stunts or the action, that's just the icing on the cake. Also, I would work on the secondary characters a little more. EVERYBODY wants something. What is keeping them from getting it?
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Sorry guys, since the website facelift I struggled to use the rating system. By the time I realised what to do I had given it zero (althought it is my number one movie). Can you advise me on how to amend this please?
Posted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006, 9:57pm

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This was very well made, from a technical standpoint it's surperior to many of the films on this site. The lighting set the mood, the editing was quick and unobtrusive, and the camerawork captured things just right.

Have to agree with the comment about the storyline though. What's Gail's motivation? What's his backstory? Building up the character's backstory would make the ending more effective. It may not make the ending more of a surprise, but it would make it more appropriate.
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 11:36am

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Bloody amazing! 5/5! Good storyline, great dialog!

The only thing that bothers me is what software are you using to edit the audio to make the voice sound like its on the phone?

Simon
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Professsor wrote:

The only thing that bothers me is what software are you using to edit the audio to make the voice sound like its on the phone?
The process is called futzing.

http://proapptips.com/tips/article.php?story=20050311170632361
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what i want to know is what kinda camera was used in this film????? anyone know?
Posted: Mon, 22nd May 2006, 9:00am

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Man you guys liked the f word way to much. It was f this and f that, the filming was cool. The places where the scenes took place was very cool. But it was kinda hard to follow what was going on in some places. Also the blood smearing on the walls was awesome, it added to those scenes a lot. But the lines were kinda pathetic so you guys need to look at using less swearing, you dont need it to get the point across.

3/5

Addusion
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The special effects, camera work and editing of this film were some of the best I've seen here so far. The mix of action, sound and effects kept me glued to the film until the credits ended. The plot might have been a tad bit thin, but to fit that much story into a short format, it can't be helped. There were a couple of actor's among "Johnny's boys" who came across a bit weak in their performance which was about the only thing that took this from being a definite five to a *very* strong four. This was the first movie I've added to my personal list. Just excellent. (Yes, I know... I'm coming in late and catching up on films everyone else already saw/reviewed.)
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1 YOU NEED MORE HARD CORE LOOKING BAD GUYS not high school kids. the mob boss
looks like a school teacher
2 the intro was to long the girl could have been a little more revealing
3 the music was good
4 little details with the lighter was really cool
5 over use of gun flashes
6 a cool twist with the girl but not the right girl for the part
or maybe need it a better getup
7 your portrail as a hit man was really cool " every body else #!
how could i put it sucked dude
i think you have hit if you just do some changes
the part were you exposed the girls back end would have a grate
touch if she was nude with a blue reflecter and low light
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Rating: +2

aguayo wrote:

1 YOU NEED MORE HARD CORE LOOKING BAD GUYS not high school kids. the mob boss
looks like a school teacher
2 the intro was to long the girl could have been a little more revealing
3 the music was good
4 little details with the lighter was really cool
5 over use of gun flashes
6 a cool twist with the girl but not the right girl for the part
or maybe need it a better getup
7 your portrail as a hit man was really cool " every body else #!
how could i put it sucked dude
i think you have hit if you just do some changes
the part were you exposed the girls back end would have a grate
touch if she was nude with a blue reflecter and low light
You just sound like a 45 year old pervert dude.
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I've had this movie sitting on my harddrive for ages, and I just finally watched it. I thought the whole thing was really great.

The only thing that really took away from it was the obssesive swearing. It made the acting seem a bit weak. Thats really the only thing that took away from it. the blood smears were brilliant.