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Would you be interested in joining this project?

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Posted: Sat, 14th Jan 2006, 11:18pm

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I am an advict film student (not offically) but i would love to go a motion picture half 3d and the other half real life. I need yalls help, in accomplishing this mighty task, so i am looking for concept people, artist, modelers, costume designers, sound people, filmers, script writers, any body who has a passion no matter how good it is is welcome to join in on this idea. If you are interested, emial me at drumline_solo_05@yahoo.com.

As far as the idea for the movie, don't know probably sci-fi, thriller, and alot of action.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006, 5:49pm

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Sure! I'm good in- wait I was going to say effects but I don't have effectslab... And I was going to say compositing but I don't have compositelab... not good at 3D either... Sound maybe? Web design? I'm good with title animation...

Super Cameraman...
Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006, 6:29pm

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I'm in.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006, 9:00pm

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worrrrd
Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006, 10:22pm

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Might be best to come up with a plan/plot/something before starting this otherwise it'll be quite hard to get going.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006, 10:30pm

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As soon as you have a bit of a clearer idea, I might be in too.

But at the current "I'll do something... No real idea what yet... you in?" I'd have to pass.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006, 11:41pm

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What exactly will you be contributing to the project aggies2005?

It might help if we knew where you were based. There's no point in me offering to film or make costumes if you're on the other side of the Atlantic.
Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006, 12:36am

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The idea for the movie wil be a combination between aeon flux, hitman the game, splinter cell on a rampage, 24 the new season. I know it will be interested on how it will happened but i am open to ideas.
Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006, 1:19am

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Sorry, that's not an idea - that's you listing 4 things you like.

What's the plot? Who are the characters? Where is it set? etc etc...

No offense, but it sounds like you really don't have a clue what you actually want to do? This all sounds like a vaporous pipe dream at the moment.
Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006, 2:57am

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aggies2005 wrote:

The idea for the movie wil be a combination between aeon flux, hitman the game, splinter cell on a rampage, 24 the new season. I know it will be interested on how it will happened but i am open to ideas.
Get an idea together, then come back to us. I'm watching the season premiere of 24 right now and if you can come up with something close to that, you'll be golden. Also, incorporating some Splinter Cell elements may prove difficult, you'll have to put more thought into that.
Posted: Tue, 17th Jan 2006, 11:59pm

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Hey guys,

Sorry been away for a while been in the brain tank and came up with an ideas that I would love yall input on.

Idea:
A hired gun/mercenary is going to retire and the film captures the last three jobs he does: (1) bank robbery which will be a pure shoot em up, (2) boat heist a little skill like "The Italian Job" or "Ocean's Eleven", (3) and finally a full max prison rescue or a full max millionaire home for an object will be mainly Splinter Cell type and a shoot em up. Most of yall are probably bored with this, but the get aways will be filmed in Need for Speed: Most Wanted. How is this going to happen? Well, when the driver gets in his car and turns it on, the car is going to be covered in "the matrix type code" and the get away will be in NFS:MW.

So let me have it, what is yalls opionin of this idea.
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 12:01am

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A correction to the previous post....

I am based in Texas, near Austin, because I know some of yall were wondering that.
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 12:27am

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I'm still not seeing an idea. 3 set pieces cribbed from other movies and computer games does not equal an idea. You could have the most spectacular "shoot-em-up" ever concieved, but it's not worth a damn if you have no characters to root for, or dramatic tension. The action should flow logically from the story.

Most of yall are probably bored with this...

This says it all really. You should have the upmost confidence in your idea. If you're apologising half way through the pitch, something is wrong.

the get aways will be filmed in Need for Speed: Most Wanted. How is this going to happen? Well, when the driver gets in his car and turns it on, the car is going to be covered in "the matrix type code" and the get away will be in NFS:MW.
The last director to incorporate computer game footage in a film was Uwe Boll. Need I go on?

Put the joypad down and start expanding your influences.
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 7:24am

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The reason I said that is to be sarcastic but apparently that didn't work out.

The last director to incorporate computer game footage in a film was Uwe Boll.
Sorry, but even though Bloodrayne is going to suck, but I am sorry what famous movie have you worked on, so don't hate the guy for being famous.


--By the way, what movies have you done?
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 7:56am

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aggies2005 wrote:

Sorry, but even though Bloodrayne is going to suck, but I am sorry what famous movie have you worked on, so don't hate the guy for being famous.
I don't hate him for being famous. Who said I did? I dislike him for being a talentless, cynical hack, who continues to get his films funded & released when talented film-makers struggle to even get financing.

Personally I wouldn't want to be considered that kind of director, but kudos to you if you do.

-By the way, what movies have you done?
Ah, the age-old riposte. I don't have any work on the FXHome cinema, because I haven't bought the software yet, and haven't made a story-led film since I was 15.
Not that it's at all relevant, but I make documentaries about local artists for the art gallery in my town, which also incorporates a cinema. They are seen by hundreds, sometimes thousands of people over the course of the exhibtions they accompany. I also provide footage for video art installations. This was done in my spare time. I now have time off from my proper job, so I intend to concentrate on making a narrative feature. What movies have you done?

Good luck with your project.
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 9:22am

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I asked people to help and if you don't want to don't.

Anybody else besides ALex Reeves want to help.
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 10:16am

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My apologies if you think I've been harsh, aggies2005. I may have criticized, but I have at least tried to be constructive. I could just have easily typed "are you on crack?"

The fact of the matter is, you've started 3 similar threads in less than 2 months, all for different ideas, which indicates to me a complete lack of focus. Why bother to get people involved if you're going to move on to a new "project" next week?
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 10:41am

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Because with this project I have done about 2 pages of script and alot of the story board done, just finishing up the costumes and weapons designs. As to the previous post, I was just getting started in filming and I know that 2 months is not that long but I got a firm idea this time.
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 1:51pm

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I was one of the first to answer the poll with a "No" because I suspected it would be a waste of time.

To actually get people on board, you should post your script, designs and storyboards that you've done then.

One of the other problems I had with your original post was that it presented no clear vision of what you wanted (= no idea whatsoever). You need to do that to get people interested, working and contributing on the project, otherwise it's just a case of you coming up with self-indulgent ideas and then using other people to get them done.
Posted: Wed, 18th Jan 2006, 6:36pm

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2 Pages of script? Wow, this must be a masterpiece. wink


You didn't answer Alex Reeve's question btw which I'd love to hear the answer to as well. Probably many others too:


What have you done already?

Can you shortly post what you have done already filmwise? What your experience is? How old you are etc?
Posted: Thu, 19th Jan 2006, 6:34am

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I don't have experience but what i have is passion. So this is the first movie for me but my friend has about 10 years in live television and recorded film experience.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jan 2006, 9:44am

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Here is some more detail about the movie:

The main character: Kinda like Jack in "24", but more professional that him. So more like a cross between Jack and Mr. Smith (Brad Pitt). He gets his orders from random people like the Transporter on a cell phone. He is emotional involved in the mission, and pays exact attention to very little detail. Mixed martial arts, mainly in the field of tai chi, wushu, kung fu, and Thai boxing.

The movie will start out in a bank with the main character (MC) answering a phone call and the camera zooms out and shows where he is. Does not even slips a note it is just wamm!! silenced 1911 modded in her face and starts demanding. After a while of bickering, he finally gets his stuff in a messenger bag and SWAT comes in and there is a fight were it is 9 against 1. Manages to escape and get the car and then the NFS:MW kicks in.

The second mission is still on hold seriously changing it to something else....

The third mission is the millionaire mansion heist. It is News Years Eve and he is throwing a huge party and MC sneaks in under maximum security, patrolling guards and laser field (alot of Splinter Cell stuff here) and then the alarm goes off and there is a huge shootout in the hallway (Equilibrium). Finishes the fight and escapes by jumping through a window and freefalling down a cliff and lands on the highway just below the cliff some more NFS:MW kicks in too

Just some more story idea, if anybody is interested offer still out.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jan 2006, 9:57am

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Alright, since you said you have no experience (wich is odd for an "advict filmstudent" as you called yourself) I´ll offer you my suggestions:



Get a "CLEAR AND COMPLETE" idea, then write a script. A first version, the so called "first draft". Depending on the length you´re planning to go for, there´s a rough estimate of 1 page per minute running time.

Write the complete script - that means all scenes, dialogues etc. Then post it here to see if people are interested or have suggestions.



At the moment, your idea sounds more like a videogame then a film. That´s not really a "story", just random action sequences. This sounds very much like something an average 12 to 16 year old would come up with really. So take your time, sit back and think about what do you want to tell and why should people be interested in watching it.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jan 2006, 11:21am

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aggies2005:

Passion is great. In fact, it's essential to be a film-maker. So you're off to a great start.

The problem is, your priorities are still wrong. There's no drama or progression in your pitch. You clearly love your action sequences, and there's nothing wrong with that. I love a good set piece as much as the next man.

But in my opinion, why the action is happening is equally as important as what happens.

I'm more interested in who the main character is, and will he change over the course of the film?

Time for a reality check. You clearly don't have the experience or the budget to attempt those sequences. Do you really have the resources to pull off a party in a millionaires mansion, for example?

I know you don't value my opinion, and I admit I've been harsh (but also explained my reasoning for that), however you'd be a fool to not listen to Sollthar, easily one of the most talented and respected people on this forum.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 10:26am

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So no one will offer their help to this project..... sad
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 12:03pm

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We offered our help by giving you advice.


Now it's up to you if you're going to take it ot not.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 12:46pm

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Perhaps we should let him try it and let him learn from his own experience how naive he's being?
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 12:49pm

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But the nature of his idea, getting other people to help out, means that he's wasting other people's time...
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 1:06pm

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True, but I don't see many people that offered help, and for good reason. Just don't post or offer help, and he could very well lose interest.

I think we've all been at that stage where we think we can do anything in terms of film. I know i just got over it about a year ago, because I made some crap movies that I thought were going to be great. I had fun with them, and now I look back at them and laugh my ass off, but they did their job - showing me what not to do.

So lets let him go make his amazing action movie, and then he'll learn of his ignorance far better when it turns out as crap then if we tell him that it's going to turn out as crap.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 1:12pm

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Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 1:17pm

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Easy guys.

You can tell that he's obviously still young and over enthusiastic. And that he doesn't really know what it takes to make a film. Especially one of the kind he's talking about.

But there's no reason to be that harsh. He asked us for help, so the best help we can give is the one we already did. Give him good suggestions about how to start, then go from there.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 1:32pm

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Hmmm, so far the plot seems action-filled but completely devoid of anything else which would make me want to watch it.

....kinda like xXx, Fast n Furious or anything else in the "Football Hooligans/Kevved-Up Escorts/Aspires to be Bling" genre.

I'm not a film-maker so am not interested in making this movie, but thought i'd just raise my worries about the plot, as skeletal as it may be at this point. If the plot is lame, you'll have a hard time finding willing contributors out of those who do make films.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 1:32pm

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Well said Sollthar. The last thing I want to do is put him off entirely. He just needs to get his head out of the clouds (and the PS2).

aggies2005:
Answer the questions, and get that script/storyboards up so we have a better idea of what you're trying to achieve.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 10:13pm

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I dont think there is anything wrong with this, keep trying and people will contribute, it is the only way to learn, by doing no matter how its done, the number one thing that I have learned is that no one makes films the same way, if they did we would only have bland repetiative hollywod crap....er ok so some of them do things one way, but thats what makes indi film makers so important, doing things differently, there is no shame in it and anyone that loves to make films isnt going to really care how its done unless they are too far gone to remember why they wanted to make movies to begin with....the love and fun of it....well hopefully anyway.

Keep going, if you dont find people here at this web site then try another and another till you find some good people willing to contribute, there is nothing wrong with having your head in the clouds that is how great ideas come about, day dreaming.

-j
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2006, 10:25pm

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Boy...I just got through reading everything in this thread....

I dont know what to say....

Why is everyone expecting a first rate director/producer/writer on their first project this is a great way to learn and there is nothing wrong with that it seems everyone wants him to just disapear or do things your way, thats not very good support for any film maker thank god David Lynch over came it. Let him try it the way he is, if your not interested then leave it at that and let him forge on trying to make it happen as we all do with our projects, its hard starting out trying to get others interested even if you have a thought out project but you dont ever stop trying just cause you run into a few people who say you are doing it wrong, there are no wrong ways, you just do it how ever you can and the best you can even if it dosnt turn out to be what you wanted you tried your best, move on and make you next project better.

Dont give up!

-j
Posted: Tue, 24th Jan 2006, 2:01am

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digitalshadowfilms:

You say you've read the entire thread, but you seemed to have missed the point.

Everyone is lambasting him because at the moment it's obvious there isn't anything to work on. He didn't even know what genre it was going to be in his first post.

The reason we are all here is because we love film-making, so I can't imagine any of us want to stop him. But he asked for opinions, and when he got them, took an unwarranted and obnoxious attitude. If he wanted sycophantic backslaps he should have stuck with family & friends.

bland repetiative hollywod crap
Did you read his ideas?

there is nothing wrong with having your head in the clouds
that is how great ideas come about, day dreaming
Great ideas yes, but great films? No. You have to stop daydreaming and start thinking practicalities & logistics. If he's still at the daydreaming phase then great, but it doesn't do him any favours to post here every time he has a flight of fancy.

aggies2005

If you're going to be sensible, and learn to take criticism maturely, I have a few ideas for you i'd be happy to forward. It would help if I knew how old you were, what kind of actors you have access to and how much money you intend to spend, if any.

In the meantime, you might want to check out:
http://austin.craigslist.org/
for people near you who may be able to help.