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Worst trailer. Period.

Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 1:49am

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I think this very well may be the worst trailer for a hollywood flick i've ever seen. Click.
Hollywood is ridiculous.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 1:54am

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Too long, yes. Worst? Whys that?
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 2:25am

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Ha, I knew this was going to be Ultraviolet before I opened the thread!

Agreed, worst trailer ever (assuming it's the same as the leaked one that appeared a few weeks ago)

A fetid amalgam of Resident Evil, The Matrix and Casshern. Milla Jovovich must be great at Christmas time, she sure knows how to pick turkeys.

"Are you mental?" crazy
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 2:26am

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Hey, it looks like Equilbrium, only gayer! I didn't think that was possible....

Seriously though, file this one under "See Inebriated"
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 2:30am

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Bryce - probably because it uses EVERY SINGLE CLICHE EVER KNOWN TO MAN. And I really do mean every single one. There are too many for me to make a list.

Waser - Hmm, well Equilibrium's first two fights were really cool, at least.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 3:51am

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Vladkob would love all the originality in that trailer.

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Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 7:33am

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umm....Resident Evil anyone?
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 7:48am

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My name is Violet. I hate humans.

My name is Domino Harvey. I am a bounty hunter.

Anyone else notice the similarities?

(Hmm...Domino and UltraViolet could conglomerate into the ultimate suckfest of our lifetime(s)! biggrin )
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 7:52am

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The trailer is really bad, but the movie itself seems to be better. Even if it isn't very original...
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 12:19pm

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Hmm... Honestly this is one of the first trailers in ages that would actually make me want to see the film. smile

Very nice visuals, interesting style.



I'd say it's one of the best trailers I've seen in 2006 really.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 1:56pm

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Like an inverse metaphor for Blade having all of the vampire's strengths and none of their weaknesses, based on this trailer Ultraviolet seems to have all of the awful aspects of Equilibrium, and none of its good points.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 3:12pm

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I think it was the acting and the voice over which ruined it for me. Sounded like the actor was going for a certain feel in the voice but failed miserably.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 6:32pm

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Plus, how lame was the glass-like armor on those soldiers that she was beating? Apparently it has no use other that eye-candy.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 6:35pm

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Plus, how lame was the glass-like armor on those soldiers that she was beating?
That was the coolest thing about this trailer. That alone made me want to see the film. wink
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 6:46pm

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Oh, just seen this is actually made by the same guy as Equilibrium. Now I definately have to see it. cool

Thanks for pointing me to it TimmyD, might have actually missed it.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006, 8:19pm

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Actually this movie looks pretty sweet. Sure it's got a lot of cliches, but it looks pretty cool.

My only major problem with it is Milla Jovovich. I can't stand her.
Posted: Sun, 29th Jan 2006, 5:48am

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The armor isn't made out of glass, it's probably made out of some super material that can normally withstand bullet hits and such, but she is such a super human she can kick and punch through it. This guy is probably one of the best action directors around, even if the stories suck its all fun, because it isn't like aeon flux or the matrices which take themselves way too seriously.

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Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:23am

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Equilibrium was a great movie.

This looks like a great movie.
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:39am

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i agree that this movie rocks. i wanna see it now!
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 4:01am

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This movie looks like trash.. If you have a major budget, hire some good fx artists. Hell, certain people on this site can composite stuff better than I saw in that trailer. Hollywood is startin to really piss me off. I cant believe movies like this and aeon flux get backed up.. and we know how well Aeon did... what was it in theatres for like a week..?


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Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 7:19am

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Ultraviolet is only a 30 million dollar movie.

Aeon Flux was a 62 million dollar movie.

Aeon Flux was made by MTV, blah.

Most of the stuff in trailer's isn't final footage, they are usually half-assed composites and CG.

I think this movie will be fun enough to check out in the theaters. I paid 8 bucks for Episode 1, I can easily pay it again for something far more interesting and far less pretentious.
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 8:19am

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The CG look like Ass, But really, I'd really like to see this based on the fact that i absolutely Loved equillibrium, and that Kurt wimmer is Brilliant at action sequences, especially since he said this has Gun kata the way he originally imagined it.
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 8:20am

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Doesn't this "Hollywood sucks" "Hollywood is pissing me off" "Hollywood blah" stuff never get boring to you?
It bores me more then the most pretentious hollywood films really...
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 8:26am

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Abso-friggin-lotely TRUE sollthar.
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 9:41am

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Sollthar wrote:

Doesn't this "Hollywood sucks" "Hollywood is pissing me off" "Hollywood blah" stuff never get boring to you?
It bores me more then the most pretentious hollywood films really...
Agreed. Especially considering the variety of films on offer this year. It's all too easy to highlight a couple of crappy films and ignore the rest - Hollywood is being more daring and interesting than it has for years at the moment: Brokeback Mountain, Munich, Syriana, Goodnight Good Luck, V For Vendetta to name but a few - there's plenty for people that don't like trashy action movies.
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 12:51pm

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Hmm if the trailer was'nt so nicely done (i think it is smile ) i would problably not see it but it kinda makes the movie look better.

Oh and how many directors have used "Clubbed To Death" in their movies now...? 3 or 4?

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Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 2:55pm

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Jesh guys. That trailer rocks. I agree with Sollthar, it has stunning visuals and effects. I think it looks pretty amazing.
Its similar to Equilibrium. So what. Everybody wants more of Equilibrium.

Kick ass song at the end too, amazing girl, amazing shots. 5/5 from me.

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ps: got ya back Marco biggrin
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:00pm

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devilskater wrote:

Its similar to Equilibrium. So what. Everybody wants more of Equilibrium.
No, no really, they don't.

Equilibrium was a bunch of good ideas (handled much, much better in about a million other films/books/you-name-it) wrapped up in a very, very silly script and idiotic production design that valued 'cool' over any kind of sense (a secret room of old antiques...with no door), filled with dodgy casting decisions (Sean Pertwee as the ruler of the world? AHAHAHAAA! Pertwee is great, especially in Dog Soldiers, but he totally didn't fit this particular role) and a total lack of logic (the black guy spent most of his time grinning inanely, despite supposedly being entirely emotionless).

Couple of nice action sequences, I'll give you that. Although we'd already seen better versions of them in The Matrix. And the dog scene was quite tense. Christian Bale was pretty good, because he always is. And Sean Bean's cameo was cool - although his demise signalled the turn of the film from promising to "oh dear."

The climactic fight between Bale and Slightly Chubby Bad Guy was embarassing, though. It was about as believable as Arnie facing off against Rick Moranis.
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:07pm

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Somehow you make Equilibrium sound better than it is Tarn biggrin
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:29pm

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Hollywood is startin to really piss me off. I cant believe movies like this and aeon flux get backed up..
Doesn't this "Hollywood sucks" "Hollywood is pissing me off" "Hollywood blah" stuff never get boring to you?
It bores me more then the most pretentious hollywood films really...
Abso-friggin-lotely TRUE sollthar.
Blahh to the blahhh to the blahhhh....

If u couldnt tell by listed, Im talking about Hollywoods latest choices for action films. You dont really see me bashing any other films than the action. The action films that are out are very weak to say the least. I'm still gonna see the film because I usually check out all these types to see if it can inspire anything in me but thats pretty much it. I'm still supporting the action genre thats making way but it doesnt mean that I'm satisfied with it. Honestly, who ever made this post needs to add a poll on seeing if people think this movie will do well or not.

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Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:30pm

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Well, how do they say... "tastes are different". wink

Personally, I loved Equilibrium and especially it's production design and it's script. I don't even agree with the Sean Pertwee bit.

I prefered Equilibrium by a lot to Matrix really, wich is a comparison a can a bit understand. The fighting sequences in Equilibrium I found absolutely brilliant and I loved every second of them while Matrix never excited me that much (Not to speak of the two sequels wich bored the hell out of me, so I'm speaking about the original. Wich I thought was good, but way behind Equilibrium).
And yes, I thought Equilibrium was WAY cooler then the Matrix. cool

The kind of "simple" production design fitted perfectly to the cold world the director was trying to show. And even though I did see better 3D then in Equilibrium, it was far from terrible from my point of view (people use words like "terrible" and "worst trailer ever" far too easy these days). Then again, Sin City had some pretty average CG as well.

So at the end of the day, Equilibrium is one of my favorite films. And I can't wait to see what the director comes up next. I'm not the type of person judging a films story of a trailer, because I consider that to be ridicolous, but I really like the comicy style of ultraviolet. It looks even more stylised then Equilibrium so I'm definately in for the ride.

No, no really, they don't.
I surely do!
Then again, what "everybody" wants or doesn't want I don't know, nor do I really care. smile
Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:42pm

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I just hate the whole hooplah of Hollywood. More daring, yes, but V for Vendetta certainly doesn't fit into the category of Brokeback Mtn. or Munich. If anything V for Vendetta looks like another government conspiracy big-effects movie, and although I know it is indeed going to be superb, to not acknowledge it as a big-budget Hollywood effect-fest, but an independent-ish breakthrough film isn't fair.

Maybe it's just me, but y'all brits really take a bias liking to british superheroes. wink My Cap'n America could kick V's arse any day.



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Sollthar wrote:

Well, how do they say... "tastes are different". wink
Absolutely! I find it fascinating the way people can have such vastly differing tastes.

I don't even agree with the Sean Pertwee bit.
I prefer him in the Medievel: Total War game. The way he says "TOWTAL WAAAAR" in the opening movie is great. razz

(Not to speak of the two <matrix> sequels wich bored the hell out of me, so I'm speaking about the original.
Despite our earlier comments on differing opinions, when it comes to the Matrix sequels I imagine most people will agree with you. smile

The kind of "simple" production design fitted perfectly to the cold world the director was trying to show.
I felt there was a good film in Equilibrium struggling to get out. There seemed to be lots of potential, if the director could take his skills and match it to some really great material. Unfortunately, he seems to have gone the other direction with Ultraviolet, choosing instead to go for yet another daft rehash of vampire stuff. Equilibrium was at least about some interesting social topics!

Of course, that's based on the trailer: it might turn out that the film actually has some interesting substance, you never know.

And even though I did see better 3D then in Equilibrium, it was far from terrible from my point of view (people use words like "terrible" and "worst trailer ever" far too easy these days). Then again, Sin City had some pretty average CG as well.
I felt Sin City's CG merged well with the overall style of the movie. Similar, in a way, to TRON - the CG in TRON is, in theory, godawful, but because it fits into the film so well, it actually still works brilliantly. Whereas CG in other films has tried to be 100% realistic, so has dated far worse (see: most 90s action/scifi films). I don't actually remember many effects in Equilibrium, CG or otherwise.

I'm not the type of person judging a films story of a trailer, because I consider that to be ridicolous, but I really like the comicy style of ultraviolet.
Hmm, comics seem much better to me. smile It's more 'movie comic', in the way that movies tend to misinterpret comics. I've yet to see a movie do comic action convincingly. Spider-Man 2 probably got the closest, during the rooftop/train sequence.

It looks even more stylised then Equilibrium so I'm definately in for the ride.
I have no problem with heavily stylised stuff, as long as it has substance to back it up. I didn't feel Equilibrium's content had been thought about as much as it's style.

No, no really, they don't.
I surely do!
Then again, what "everybody" wants or doesn't want I don't know, nor do I really care. smile[/quote]

Indeed, that was rather my point. smile

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Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006, 3:51pm

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Well, if you hate the "hooplah" of Hollywood, then simple don't go watch these films. I don't see where's the problem in that?

And being an independent film or "independent-ish" doesn't exactly autimatically qualify it as good film. A bad independent film can suck just like a bad hollywood film. And independent studios produce at least the same amount of crap as hollywood is, or every other filmproduction for that matter.

They all produce maybe one or two gems a year and the rest is average at best. That's the case for Hollywood, Bollywood, European cinema, Art cinema, documentaries, Television, Independent Films or whatever else.
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Atom wrote:

V for Vendetta certainly doesn't fit into the category of Brokeback Mtn. or Munich.
Why not? How can you judge it like that before you've even seen it, anyway?

If anything V for Vendetta looks like another government conspiracy big-effects movie, and although I know it is indeed going to be superb, to not acknowledge it as a big-budget Hollywood effect-fest, but an independent-ish breakthrough film isn't fair.
Erm, I take it you haven't read the source comic, then?

I hear they've made a pretty faithful adaptation, so don't be fooled by the trailers: V For Vendetta is not an action movie. I think it has the potential to stand right next to the other great films this year. In fact, if the film lives up to its full potential, it could be far better than most of them.

VfV is a harsh, controversial, very political film. It's about propaganda, freedom, the power of the individual, the corruption of governments, the erosion of civil liberties. If you think it's a standard big-budget, Hollywood effects-fest....well, I imagine you're in for a rather big surprise!

Maybe it's just me, but y'all brits really take a bias liking to british superheroes. wink My Cap'n America could kick V's arse any day.
Captain America is fantastic. He represents everything America should and could be. Thinking about it, he and V are very similar. Both normal humans, enhanced to be super-soldiers. The difference is that V is fighting for a world that has already disappeared into fear and apathy, while Captain America has yet to come to that realisation. wink

Sollthar wrote:

And being an independent film or "independent-ish" doesn't exactly autimatically qualify it as good film. A bad independent film can suck just like a bad hollywood film.
Well said, that man!
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.. i actually liked this trailer, possibly the best trailer i've seen in 2006! smile
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There seemed to be lots of potential, if the director could take his skills and match it to some really great material. Unfortunately, he seems to have gone the other direction with Ultraviolet, choosing instead to go for yet another daft rehash of vampire stuff.
Hm, I didn't see any vampires in the trailer really... smile


You see, I don't find a film to be better just because it's thoughtprovoking, or dealing with an interesting or even important social conflict, or is phsychologically deep or whatever else.

For me, I watch movies out of a constantly changing variety of reasons.

While I enjoy "Million Dollar Baby" for it's great script and daring subject, "Memento" for the fact it made me think for quite some time or "The Wave" for it's social importance and I enjoy something like "Van Helsing" exactly because it has neither of that. smile

So even if the director decided "Ah well, to hell with the social stuff, let's bring in a row of great action sequences" that doesn't make it a worse film then if he said "Hm, let's put some more social critisism in it."
It would have ended with two different types of film, but either one has the potential to be a 5 star film in my book.

The same way I can watch a random Visual Effects Showreel and enjoy it more then a film by Stanley Kubrick or Steven Spielberg.

I think it has a lot to do with how you appreach a film. Do you hate Star Wars because you'd rather seen a romantic comedy or can you let go of the fact it isn't what you want it to be and like or dislike it for what it actually is, for what it actually wants to be.

it might turn out that the film actually has some interesting substance, you never know.
As I said, this wouldn't matter to me. If it has substance, it might be a good or bad film about a subject with substance.

If it has no substance, it can still be a good or bad film for it's pure entertainment values.

I felt Sin City's CG merged well with the overall style of the movie.
Definately! Good example with Tron, yeah. I think the same about this Trailer - just because someone ranted about the "bad" compositing. I think the images have a clear visual concept and language and really stick to it. Then again, it's another matter of tatse if you like it or not. I happen to do.

It's more 'movie comic', in the way that movies tend to misinterpret comics.
Then I guess I prefer "movie comic" to "comic" then. smile

I didn't feel Equilibrium's content had been thought about as much as it's style.
I agree with that, yes. But as I said, that's not really the question to me.
Could it have been better if it had more to offer? Surely! Everything is better when it has more to offer.
Was it bad because it didn't? Not at all.

If you see what I mean.
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...choosing instead to go for yet another daft rehash of vampire stuff.
Hm, I didn't see any vampires in the trailer really... smile
"Set in the late 21st century, a subculture of humans have emerged who have been modified genetically by a vampire-like disease (Hemophagia), giving them enhanced speed, incredible stamina and acute intelligence."

Vampires with a scifi twist.

You see, I don't find a film to be better just because it's thoughtprovoking, or dealing with an interesting or even important social conflict, or is phsychologically deep or whatever else.
You misinterpret me. I don't mean all films have to make you think about life and politics and stuff, not at all. But even a silly action movie needs to have content and conviction. It needs to believe in itself and what it's trying to do - that's what separates classic stuff like Predator from most of the rubbishy action movies around today.

[quote[While I enjoy "Million Dollar Baby" for it's great script and daring subject, "Memento" for the fact it made me think for quite some time or "The Wave" for it's social importance and I enjoy something like "Van Helsing" exactly because it has neither of that. smile[/quote]

Absolutely. I agree entirely. But at the same time, I want a certain standard from my action movies. Memento, Million Dollar Baby etc - they're the top of the drama category, really great stuff. But I can't think of any recent action movies that have reached similar heights in their own genre.

I can't comment on Van Helsing as I didn't see it (again, trailer looked awful!), but recent fair such as The Island was pretty mediocre. I maintain that action movies have lost their nerve, and seem too scared to do their jobs properly - they're too obsessed with being kid-friendly.

Have there been any pur action movies up to the standard of, say, Predator and Die Hard in the last 10 years?

it might turn out that the film actually has some interesting substance, you never know.
As I said, this wouldn't matter to me. If it has substance, it might be a good or bad film about a subject with substance.

If it has no substance, it can still be a good or bad film for it's pure entertainment values.
I should have explained myself better. smile By 'substance', I don't mean social commentary, politics, philosophy etc. In an action movie, the substance is the action, and everything that goes along with it. Equlibrium, Underworld, The Mummy, Riddick etc...they seem to miss the point. I'm not sure what the point is, but they missed it. razz

Could it have been better if it had more to offer? Surely! Everything is better when it has more to offer.
Was it bad because it didn't? Not at all.
Very true. I just wish an action movie would completely astound me. I can't remember the last time that happened (if we exclude the Lord of the Rings films).

Maybe I'll just wait for Nightcast. biggrin

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The trailer looks great fun, I don't know what the big fuss is. I actually thought the Aeon Flux trailer was pretty bad, and this trailer is eons better (ah, see what I did there?) Yes, it's full of Matrix-esque setpieces, and maybe the problem some people have with this trailer is that they've seen stuff like it before. That's not to say it won't be enjoyable to go and see it in the cinemas.

Ultimately it's a matter of opinion, but sometimes people feel too guilty to admit they enjoy stuff like this. I for one enjoyed The Island, which was dissed on by critics, because they took it for something it wasn't. Yes, Ultraviolet seems like an amalgamation of vampires, Resident Evil, X Men, The Matrix, 1984/Equilibrium, etc. And it isn't really films like this that makes me lose my faith in Hollywood. It's films like Deuce Bigalow.
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Mellifluous wrote:

The trailer looks great fun, I don't know what the big fuss is. I actually thought the Aeon Flux trailer was pretty bad, and this trailer is eons better (ah, see what I did there?)
I'll agree with you there. But, then, the Aeon Flux trailer is probably the second worst trailer of all time (just behind Domino).

Having watched the Ultraviolet trailer again, I've pinpointed what I don't like about it - Milla Jovovich. The rest of the trailer looks fine, really - production design, style etc. That all has lots of potential. Milla, on the other hand, looks like a little girl that has had a few too many good meals recently, convinced of her own 'cool' and 'hardness'.

I just don't buy her 'super tough' acting - it looks like she's trying to act cool/hard. Some actors can do tough completely naturally - Sigourney Weaver, Russell Crowe, Arnie, Hugh Jackman, etc. In the Ultraviolet trailer, however...it looks to me like Milla Jovovich acting tough, rather than actually being tough. The selection of odd hairstyles don't help. smile

I for one enjoyed The Island, which was dissed on by critics, because they took it for something it wasn't.
Hmm, I didn't read many reviews of it. However, I'd say the person that took it for something it wasn't was Michael Bay. The script is actually pretty cool, a really interesting mix of ideas. Handled with subtlety and a little more seriousness, it could have been great - especially with such a brilliant cast. Instead, Bay went for his jokey, unrealistic OTT action style (as usual), which didn't seem to blend with the themes of the movie at all.

For example, the giant explosion as they're falling down the side of the building. That whole sequence is absurd - there is no way they could have survived it. Now, in something like Armageddon, fair enough - that's the style of the film. But The Island had set itself up as semi-realistic movie, so the sequence stuck out like a nasty sore thumb.

It wasn't a bad film as such, but there was potential in there for a vastly better film, if the material had been handled better. I felt it should have had a tone more similar to Minority Report, if anything.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006, 2:15pm

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I thought this trailer was actually pretty cool; the movie seems really appealing to me!

Either way, does anybody know what that song near the end of the trailer is?
Posted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006, 4:05pm

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jstow222 wrote:

Plus, how lame was the glass-like armor on those soldiers that she was beating? Apparently it has no use other that eye-candy.
You say "eye-candy" like it's a bad thing smile
Posted: Sun, 5th Feb 2006, 1:29pm

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the worst trailer i have seen is uwe bolls dungeon seige movie
Posted: Tue, 7th Feb 2006, 3:30am

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no_hole

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Well i think uwe boll is in another Category in himself, you can't really count anything he does as "filmmaking"
Posted: Tue, 7th Feb 2006, 8:07pm

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Thanks Timmy for showing me that trailer, I'm going to see this movie smile
Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2006, 11:42pm

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After seeing the trailer in the theater and here, I probably will go and see the film. I will go knowing it is a ridiculous film about some hot chick in tight pants who can't be killed or even harmed by dozens and dozens of her pursuers. Great fx, a couple of "cool shot"s. Just good clean fun.
Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2006, 2:16am

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JoelM

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me like!