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Sneaking Into Theaters: Ever Bother You?

Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 1:25am

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I don't know about you guys but I've been raised with knowledge of right and wrong and I think this is wrong.

Do you know anybody who sneaks in to movie theaters? The one most of us go to in my hometown is absurdly designed, almost bad enough to encourage kids to sneak in. As a filmmaker and an honest person, kids sneaking into theaters really bothers me. First off, its stealing. If you don't pay for a ticket or if you stay through your movie into another one you are cheating the theater and the Production house out of money. The sad thing is kids seem to think its ok and even cool, and if you turn down opportunity to do so and buy a ticket like any law abiding citizen then you are a goody-goody. Makes me wonder whats next: shoplifting?

What are your thougts.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 1:37am

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I am perfectly fine with it. Hollywood doesnt need that extra $8.50, they have plenty more, and they waste it.

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Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 1:47am

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TimmyD wrote:

I'd say go for it. Hollywood doesnt need that extra $8.50, they have plenty more, and they waste it.
Maybe so, but your opinion matters little. You can say that you don't believing killing people is wrong but if you did would that make it ok?

Besides you aren't only cheating Hollywood you are cheating the theater itself. You are stealing and they can arrest you for it.

Maybe the big production houses waste our money, but if I were an independant filmmaker who was struggling to pay the bills and be noticed by Hollywood, and I found out that a bunch of people had been getting hold of my movie or seeing it for free in the theater, there would be blood shed.
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TimmyD wrote:

I'd say go for it. Hollywood doesnt need that extra $8.50, they have plenty more, and they waste it.
????
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 1:54am

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cinemafreak wrote:

TimmyD wrote:

I'd say go for it. Hollywood doesnt need that extra $8.50, they have plenty more, and they waste it.
Maybe so, but your opinion matters little. You can say that you don't believing killing people is wrong but if you did would that make it ok?
If my opinion does matter little, then why did you ask for it?

cinemafreak wrote:

Besides you aren't only cheating Hollywood you are cheating the theater itself. You are stealing and they can arrest you for it..
It comes down to a choice. If you wanna take the risk, thats great. If you dont, ok. I'm saying i dont mind it when people do it, especially in movie theaters. Prices of everything are jacked up so ridiculously they shouldnt care if people see a movie for free, they paid enough for two anyway.

lisab8195 wrote:

timmyd wrote:

I'd say go for it. Hollywood doesnt need that extra $8.50, they have plenty more, and they waste it.
????
What.

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Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 2:09am

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Doesn't really bother me...
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 2:10am

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I suppose it's similar to the downloading music case.

You can go out to a store and buy the CD (paying for the movie ticket) or you can download it for free on the internet (sneaking into the movie).

I have a friend who just takes a worn out ticket to the movies and doesn't pay for one and then just flashes it when we walk in. I don't mind because there's nothing I can do about it and we always go with a group of 3-10 people, so there are always people paying. Especially me.

Plus, back to the downloading music. Some people buy CDs and some people download music. There's nothing you can do to the people who download the music (other than the RIAA suing people but you don't find that often...) Same with the movies. Some people pay and some people don't. There's nothing you can do about the people who don't, it just happens.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 2:33am

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I don't think the type of person who would sneak into a movie would be the type of person who would go see an independent film. So i'm guessing it would just be hollywood who would be losing money, and the theatre.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 3:13am

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cinemafreak wrote:

you are cheating the theater itself.
Theatres make their money from concessions; not ticket sales. (There are some exceptions, but in those situations, the theatre will make something like $.50 per ticket. Therefore, the theatre would lose less money than you spent on your latest video game.)

Also, the Hollywood Studios couldn't care less of losses of a couple thousand dollars. Plus, in some cases, people who see it "illegaly" may tell other people (parents, friends, etc...) if the movie is good, which could sell a few more tickets, and ultimately make money.

The people it affects the most are the ones who pay to see the movie, like you. But if they really cared that much about it, they would report the "criminals" to the proper authorities. Do you want to walk to the theatre manager and point out which kid didn't pay for a ticket? I would think it to be rather embarrasing, wouldn't you? Most people who work at my local theatre(s) are teenagers, and they don't want to be tattling on people they may know from school or something...

I don't think it's right, but there are much bigger problems to deal with before this is completely addressed...
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 3:37am

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cinemafreak wrote:

TimmyD wrote:

I'd say go for it. Hollywood doesnt need that extra $8.50, they have plenty more, and they waste it.
Maybe so, but your opinion matters little. You can say that you don't believing killing people is wrong but if you did would that make it ok?

Besides you aren't only cheating Hollywood you are cheating the theater itself. You are stealing and they can arrest you for it.

Maybe the big production houses waste our money, but if I were an independant filmmaker who was struggling to pay the bills and be noticed by Hollywood, and I found out that a bunch of people had been getting hold of my movie or seeing it for free in the theater, there would be blood shed.
I am sorry, but what is the point of this topic if you won't hear the other side? This is so stupid. "What are your thoughts?" is exactly what you said, and TimmyD gave you just that. I personally don't care. I don't do it because I don't want to get caught and I would feel uncomfortable. But if people did it I wouldn't care. As a filmmaker, I don't care about tons of money. These are my thoughts. *digital slap*
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 3:40am

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Does it bother me? Yes, but at the same time I don't do anything about it. I don't personally do it and I don't think any of my good friends do. Actually what bothers me more is the justification people have for sneaking in or pirating music/movies/software. It has already come up on this board.

The justifications:
1) Hollywood will be okay without the extra money.
2) Tickets are overpriced.
3) Theatres don't make most of their profit from tickets anyway.

All of these justifications still leave out one crucial point, which is what gives the thief the right to bypass the fee. So what if Hollywood doesn't need the extra money? That doesn't mean you have the right to see it for free. If you don't want to contribute money to Hollywood, you don't have to see the movie. It's the same argument with tickets being overpriced. That is the price that the theater set, and if you have a problem with it you don't have to see the movie. This is all part of the idea of supply and demand. Just because the theater or studio can afford the loss doesn't mean that you should make them. I could take a dollar a day from you and you could probably afford it, but that doesn't mean that I have the right to just deny you that money.

Anyway, I'm sure you got my point long ago and now I'm just preaching to nobody. Point being, I don't do it, I don't support it, but honestly it's not my problem whether or not you choose to.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 3:42am

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I rarely go to the cinema because its full of chavs.
When I do go. I try to make sure its on a Wedneday and that means its 1/2 price, so the average ticket is 3.50.

I hate pikeys.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 3:56am

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I am sorry, but what is the point of this topic if you won't hear the other side? This is so stupid. "What are your thoughts?" is exactly what you said, and TimmyD gave you just that. I personally don't care. I don't do it because I don't want to get caught and I would feel uncomfortable. But if people did it I wouldn't care. As a filmmaker, I don't care about tons of money. These are my thoughts. *digital slap
I did hear the other side, and I was debating against its validity. If I haven't heard the other side than I wouldn't be able to post against it, would I? I am not telling Timmy he can't say what he did, I am simply expressing my disagreement and my problem with his arguement. Understand now?

*digital slap*
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 3:59am

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None of our opinions matter, so what is the point of putting his down like that? *digital slap block* When I said "hear the other side" I didn't mean literally. And even if I did mean it literally, did you actually read it outloud to yourself? wink
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:05am

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Serpent wrote:

None of our opinions matter, so what is the point of putting his down like that? *digital slap block* When I said "hear the other side" I didn't mean literally. And even if I did mean it literally, did you actually read it outloud to yourself? wink
Serpent, ever heard of debate? Would you like me to define it for you? When you asked if I heard the other side I was assuming you meant whether I had read the other sides point of view. I had and I responded to it.

And of course none of our opinions matter. Debate is fun. By responding to TimmyD is was pointing out the flaws in his justifications? Is that supposed to be evil or somethin? I still don't understand your beef.

*digital slap X 64*
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:07am

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Cinemafreak, you said that TimmyD's opinion didn't matter when you asked for it. That doesn't exactly sound like a debate to me.

And I agree with MidnightJester.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:08am

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I don't really care what other people do, but I think it's wrong.

One time I pulled up to the theater in the back and saw this guy come out from one of the screen's back doors and signal to someone while holding the door open (the doors only open from the inside). Seconds later about 6 other guys got out of a car and went on in without paying. That's about $42.50 the theater lost because those guys didn't pay. Now imagine this going on in theaters all over America...it adds up. think
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:09am

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Movie theatres are struggling, it's an obvious fact. And like the postal system, its a bussiness based on trust, trust that those who work there aren't cheating anyone, trust that the viewers arent skimping out on an extra movie or two. But, the fact of the matter is, the movie theatre (in almost ALL CASES) pays the production company for it to be there, and then ticket sales go back to the production company, and then they have to either make it up by a pecentage of the ticket cost (i.e. an $8.50 ticket) or charge only through concessions or grow business through accomodations. (Why do you choose one theatre over another?)

My friends sneak into movies all the time. But you know what, they also pay for like 2-3 movies a month they go see, and spend at least $10-15 on concessions each time, ticket-paid or not. Is it right? Hell no, but they definitely paid more than enough to go see a couple extra movies, and them being there for free and profitting the theatre itself a small popcorn combo's-worth is better than them not being there at all.

Right? Movies are ridiculously priced, and meet no true supply-and-demand, but that doesn't justify sneaking in. But still...........yeah, relax, there are bigger problems in the world.

Like Sollthar cameoing in Recon before NightCast has even come out. You traitor! wink
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I don't think you've really any counter-point for starting what you yourself title a debate and yet totally neglected someone elses point of view simply because it doesn't coincide with you. Grow up a little, Timmy's point may have been somewhat blunt/poorly put accross, just deal with it.

Moving on,

Yes I do have a problem with people sneaking into cinemas, and yes I do do something about it. Infact, I plan ahead for such occurances as they are frequent in the nearby cinemas.

Who needs a manager when you've got a slingshot and a bucket of popcorn?

So yeah, if you bunk into cinemas at wimbledon or infact, if you happen to be a part of any unruly mob who just can't button up and watch a film like any other human life form. Expect some 200mph popcorn coming your way.

-Hybrid.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:16am

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Harvey wrote:

Cinemafreak, you said that TimmyD's opinion didn't matter when you asked for it. That doesn't exactly sound like a debate to me.

And I agree with MidnightJester.
You are taking my words out of context. I meant that Timmy's opinion mattered little in the way of something being right or wrong.
I go on to say the following:

You can hold the belief that killing people is good but that doesn't change the fact that you're taking someones life, which is wrong, sinful and illegal. Similarly, you can believe all you want that Hollwood wastes money but that doesn't change the fact that you are stealing when you sneak into the theater without paying for a ticket. Its bad logic.

Read my post next time.

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Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:19am

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Weird double-posting. I didn't press the button twice. Weird, sorry bout that.

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Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:20am

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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

So yeah, if you bunk into cinemas at wimbledon or infact, if you happen to be a part of any unruly mob who just can't button up and watch a film like any other human life form. Expect some 200mph popcorn coming your way.
Great idea. smile

cinemafreak wrote:

Read my post next time.
I did read your post and you probably could have worded it a little better. The way you worded it sounds like you're saying that Timmy's opinion matters little because it doesn't agree with yours.
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I am definitely against sneaking into the movies just because of my own morals.

I can understand kids doing it, maybe until the age of 16 or so. But into young adulthood and being an adult...There is no excuse for sneaking in. If you don't have the means to afford it, then don't go. If it's something you want to see, then wait 6 months (rental time continues to go down) to go to your local video store to rent it for 2-5 dollars- or pay 15 bucks a month to rent unlimited amounts of movies. The price of two movie tickets can get you a months worth of rentals. That is how I have seen 8 movies in the past 3 days.

BUT! People who pay for their tickets often bring in their own soda, food and candy...Is this not still breaking the rules? True that their snacks are overpriced, but if you are going to go against stealing in one matter, why go with breaking the rules in another. If honesty will be your policy, then you should follow it in any situation that comes up. Just order a pizza and dine in and rent a movie. smile
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 4:50am

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sfbmovieco wrote:

I am definitely against sneaking into the movies just because of my own morals.
Same. I don't (and have never) sneaked into a movie because:

A) Moral values and such
B) My sister works at the restuarant next door, and they get free movies, so I get to piggy-back off that! biggrin biggrin biggrin
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I think it's all wrong. About two years ago I went to see "Troy" with a friend. While the movie was on we noticed four or five guys entering the theater. This resulted that they shut the movie down and called security which chased the guys out. Then we had to wait about 10 minutes and show them our tickets.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 9:31am

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The only time I am pro-sneaking into a movie, I have to morally object to the film itself, like, say, Napolean Dynamite.
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Then why sneak into it in the first place?
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I Rarely go to the cinema, Because its filled with Chavs, and I really don't appreciate being happy-slapped while trying to enjoy "Aeon Flux" with my $20 bucket of popcorn.



Seiously though, sneaking into theaters is really ethically stealing in one way. and then there are those that make all the exceptions (of which there are many, most already mentioned) and just brag about how great it is they just got in for free.
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Waser wrote:

The only time I am pro-sneaking into a movie, I have to morally object to the film itself, like, say, Napolean Dynamite.
Hahaha, the Filmic Terrorist.
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 3:21pm

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Midnight_Jester: Great post! Very well said. Anyone who thinks that sneaking in (just like pirating software/music) isn't stealing is just fooling themselves.
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*attempts to block 64 slaps, phailz*

Anyways, umm, no where in my posts did I deny this as a debate, and no where in my posts did I say anything was evil. I am just saying that your comment sucked, it completely and 100% "slapped" Timmy in the face, and it did not exactly invite this fun debate that you are talking about. Who is going to want to post the other side if you say "your opinion doesn't matter" right back at them. Bad argument, and I just think it would be a pointless topic without people who see the other side, driving them off wouldn't be a good thing. This is just my view, I am all slapped out, so no more of that.

I have shared my view, and I can see why everyone has certain views, except for "I always sneak into theatres and paying for it is dumb." I don't like this view, but don't care if that is how you feel.
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I always pay for my tickets, but I don't really care if other people don't. Its their choice, not mine.

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Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 10:26pm

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Serpent wrote:

*attempts to block 64 slaps, phailz*

Anyways, umm, no where in my posts did I deny this as a debate, and no where in my posts did I say anything was evil. I am just saying that your comment sucked, it completely and 100% "slapped" Timmy in the face, and it did not exactly invite this fun debate that you are talking about. Who is going to want to post the other side if you say "your opinion doesn't matter" right back at them. Bad argument, and I just think it would be a pointless topic without people who see the other side, driving them off wouldn't be a good thing. This is just my view, I am all slapped out, so no more of that.

I have shared my view, and I can see why everyone has certain views, except for "I always sneak into theatres and paying for it is dumb." I don't like this view, but don't care if that is how you feel.
But still you failed to read my entire post and you are taking my words out of context. I did not mean that TimmyD's opinion did not matter in this thread, I simply was stating that his opinions don't change the reality of his actions. Just because he believes that Hollywood has too much money doesn't change the fact that he is stealing when he sneaks into the theater. Make sense?
Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006, 11:23pm

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Timmy, the Almighty Controversy Starter.


Yeah, so heres my revised opinion. A few people have mentioned entire groups of people sneaking in, like that guy who let his six or so friends come in. That is completley wrong from the way i see it, but yourself and one friend, say, is fine (as contradictory as that is). I know that sounds messed up and stuff, but thats how i see it. Its still stealing, and theres still alot on the line, like getting thrown out then arrested or something, so it ends up being the choice of the person. I, personally, have not and will not sneak into a movie (but dont hold me too that, im still only 13 razz), but if someone does it, chances are that even if i notice it i wont care. And like Hybrid pointed out, Slingshot+Bucket O Popcorn=Manager.
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Hmmm well I didn't take the time to read every post in this thread because about a page in or so I got bored of the petty arguments. Forgive me if someone mentioned this already but I don't believe anyone did after skimming through the rest.

First off, I don't sneak into movies generally because I do not wish to get caught and I don't see the need too.

However, many of you are forgetting that the justifications of some of your agruments come hand in hand. For instance, those who support sneaking into theatres have a just argument that ticket prices are outrageously high, which I agree with. What you must remember though is that a large portion of the ticket price is actually the financial security making up for those who decide to sneak into movies. That is, a theater will generally raise ticket prices and concession prices to make up for the profits lost from those who choose to not pay. Whether or not these profits are in "excess" is disputable, but that will not stop them from raising prices.

Henceforth these raised ticket prices may cause more people to sneak into the theaters, and thus the vicous cycle ensues. The same is with all forms of piracy and shoplifting. As prices rise more people will be inclined to 'steal'. As more people 'steal' prices will continue to rise. The only problem is that as this cycle continues, many more honest people will become inclined to not pay prices as they become much more ridiculous.

People will continue to sneak into theatres regardless of this cycle. There is no way to completely stop this such activity. As mentioned before, the two viewpoints come hand and hand, much like a cop and a criminal. If a police officer was able to completely fulfill his duty, and stop all crime, he would be forced to find a new line of work. That is, without crime he would no longer be needed.
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I remember when I was 13 we got a bunch of chavs kicked out The Odeon! It was hilarious.

We were watching the film and they started a food fight. They ended up lobbing drinks at us, so we called the staff in and they were thrown out.
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It does not bother me because its not like you are stealing an actual thing. Except of course, someone's seat maybe. Theaters are WAY over priced. Having said this, I have never done it myself, nor whill I ever simply because I like to be on the right side of the law.
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I'm with Alpha.. I pay for my tickets.. if you sneak in, good for you.
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I read back through this to see if anyone replied to my post, and I was happy to see that it was only mentioned in a good light. I came back actually because a similar topic came up today and it got me thinking about this again. It made me realize why it is that I feel at least slightly uncomfortable that people sneak in or do such things. It isn't the theft itself because, as has been pointed out, obviously the theater and studios can afford it (not a justification, but bear with me). So ya, the theft itself doesn't bother me as much as the principle behind it. I started thinking about why it is that these same people do not go into Best Buy and steal the shrink wrapped DVD when it comes out. Some will download it, some will buy it. Both solutions actually bother me, and here is my reasoning (I apologize in advance for my tendency to have long posts).

Take as a given that this is a person that is perfectly willing to sneak into a movie or download it/bootleg it. However, when it comes down to the actual theft of the object from a store, they are not willing. What does this tell me? It suggests that they are motivated by fear of punishment rather than a want to be a moral person. It suggests that that person has not murdered because they figure there is too much of a chance of getting caught. As long as the odds are in their favor, theft is okay. That is what bothers me. I like to think that I do good things and abstain for bad things because of a general desire to do good and not bad. So it bothers me when I notice other people that are only good because of a fear of punishment.

I take you back to the Napoleon Dynamite example from before. I don't feel like actually getting the quote, but it was said that sneaking in is justified when it is in protest of the movie. I recognize that this was not said in all seriousness, but I'll still use this example. If you really are trying to protest this movie, why are you doing it in such a way that is so secretive? If you are trying to make a statement, get out there, get caught, get your name and actions out so that people can know what you did and why. Otherwise you are just trying to falsely justify something to yourself. I will now apologize again for taking up so much space and so much of your time.
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I am pretty much too muc a wussy to outright sneak into a movie.

However, last night I wanted to live alittle, you know? like, life on the edge. So I compromised. I payed for one movie, but then I changed my mind at the last minute and SNUCK into the one I really wanted to see.

You punks aint got nutin' on me.
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Oh snap, dawg. Did the po-po catch you? I heard you could get 5 to 10 for that.
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Why sneak in when you can download it...

BA-ZING!!
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I must confess:

I do it myself, and I don't give a fu** biggrin, but just because I am a bad asS gangsta biggrin

cheers,
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I guess my point is that Napolean Dynamite is the cinematic equivalent of the anti-christ for me, and anything anyone does to hurt it is justified. But that's the only movie I feel that way about smile
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*imagens about 500 small trees and shrubs edging their way into the movie theaters around the world, as half of FXHome.com Comunity pulling the old Bugs Bunny trick*
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Come on... I just "movie-hopped" recently. I came out of Big Momma's House 2 (Halarious!) and just jumped into a 45 minute laughing session of how horrible Steve Martin played as Cluso in the Pink Panther.

I seriously don't think hollywood deserves my money to watch that blasphomy. I know it's wrong, or maybe it isn't. Still I think it's fun to do it at about 10:00 at night when no-ones there but some two love birds making out over AVP and you can just yell "WHAT DOES THAT SAY?!?!" when you see the little text on the screen that tells you do keep silent during the movie. Oh yeah I like to turn my cell phone volume up to high and text messege and talk on the phone and literally laugh at all the parts of movies that are supposed to be "sad" or "serious".

It's fun, I wouldn't recommed to do it alot but just try it and have some fun.

Starfan somethings are very wrong, I find that one of the lightest sins I've ever commited and carry maybe 1/1000 of an ounce of guilt for it. biggrin

[EDIT: Skip the post, one of the stupidest things I've said here.
as a wise man once said, "move along"]

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Posted: Tue, 7th Mar 2006, 2:31am

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swg33k wrote:

Come on... I just "movie-hopped" recently. I came out of Big Momma's House 2 (Halarious!) and just jumped into a 45 minute laughing session of how horrible Steve Martin played as Cluso in the Pink Panther.

I seriously don't think hollywood deserves my money to watch that blasphomy. I know it's wrong, or maybe it isn't. Still I think it's fun to do it at about 10:00 at night when no-ones there but some two love birds making out over AVP and you can just yell "WHAT DOES THAT SAY?!?!" when you see the little text on the screen that tells you do keep silent during the movie. Oh yeah I like to turn my cell phone volume up to high and text messege and talk on the phone and literally laugh at all the parts of movies that are supposed to be "sad" or "serious".

It's fun, I wouldn't recommed to do it alot but just try it and have some fun.

Starfan somethings are very wrong, I find that one of the lightest sins I've ever commited and carry maybe 1/1000 of an ounce of guilt for it. biggrin
You are all that is wrong with a person who watches movies. Let me know when you make a movie on fxhome so I can download it, burn it to a dvd and pop a squat on it. If you want to movie hop, ok, whatever do what you want. But you have a shitty attitude about film. Movies are overpriced, I agree. But the ones getting it in the end are the people who bust their ass like the grips and all the people who do un seen work in the background of the movie making process. If you think a movie stinks enough your not willing to give them your money, then don't go see it. How about instead of stealing, why don't you start asking around why these directors and actors to are taking $5, $10 and $20 million a picture. If they are so evil, then don't combat evil with more evil. In all honesty, from what you said in your post, I have no reservations saying that you lack the brain power to appreciate film and its inner workings.
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swg33k wrote:

Oh yeah I like to turn my cell phone volume up to high and text messege and talk on the phone and literally laugh at all the parts of movies that are supposed to be "sad" or "serious".
It's fun, I wouldn't recommed to do it alot but just try it and have some fun.
People like you are the reason I don't really enjoy going to cinemas much anymore. I always manage to sit in range of the a-hole who behaves similar to what you describe, and even though I'm usually a very peace loving person, I had many situations where I "solved this problem" quite violently. (Like some car drivers tend to go mad, I'm like that when my holy movie watching time is disturbed. I don't even talk during a film, not even if I really dislike it)

So fortunate for you we will hardly ever meet in a cinema. That might end up quite bad.
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swg33k wrote:

Oh yeah I like to turn my cell phone volume up to high and text messege and talk on the phone and literally laugh at all the parts of movies that are supposed to be "sad" or "serious".

It's fun, I wouldn't recommed to do it alot but just try it and have some fun.
Are you being serious?

If so, that's despicable behaviour and you should be ashamed of yourself. As Sollthar says, I hope we never meet, let alone in a movie theatre.

I really, really hope there was sarcasm involved in your comments!
Posted: Fri, 10th Mar 2006, 3:57am

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swg33k wrote:

Come on... I just "movie-hopped" recently. I came out of Big Momma's House 2 (Halarious!) and just jumped into a 45 minute laughing session of how horrible Steve Martin played as Cluso in the Pink Panther.

I seriously don't think hollywood deserves my money to watch that blasphomy. I know it's wrong, or maybe it isn't. Still I think it's fun to do it at about 10:00 at night when no-ones there but some two love birds making out over AVP and you can just yell "WHAT DOES THAT SAY?!?!" when you see the little text on the screen that tells you do keep silent during the movie. Oh yeah I like to turn my cell phone volume up to high and text messege and talk on the phone and literally laugh at all the parts of movies that are supposed to be "sad" or "serious".

It's fun, I wouldn't recommed to do it alot but just try it and have some fun.

Starfan somethings are very wrong, I find that one of the lightest sins I've ever commited and carry maybe 1/1000 of an ounce of guilt for it. biggrin
Hey, look what I just found on dictionary.com!

swg33kunsure [noun]
1: A chav
2: Having incredible stupidity


The fact that you paid for Big Momma's House 2, and then snook into another movie truly shows your stupidity.
Posted: Fri, 10th Mar 2006, 12:41pm

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This debate reminds me a lot about the illegal music/software debate that we had awhile back. You can make excuses all day long about how Hollywood doesn't need your money, but the fact of the matter is that you are stealing. Though it doesn't seem like it you are viewing someone's work that cost them money to make and you are viewing it for free without buying the rights to do so. It doesn't matter if Hollywood needs it or not and you can say my 7.50 doesn't matter, but if enough people did it then it does matter and you are cheating the theatre and the movie companies that you support. It doesn't matter if the movie wasn't "worth your money" because that is your own opinion so going to another movie doesn't justify it. Stop making excuses for things that are so clearly wrong.
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*ahem*.....That was when there is no-one in the theater.

For crying out loud you think I would just yap on my cellphone while a movie is going in a full theater?! I do it if there is no-one to annoy. I'm that that much of a butt to do such a thing.

Atom- Don't start the personal attacks please.

Sollthar, dude I don't go into movies with people in it and start being stupid to piss people off. Actually if you knew me I am NOT one of those freaks who go out and yell on my cellphone while others are trying to enjoy the movie.

Tarn- yes that was alot of sarcasm and I will repeat- I do not go into theaters start screwing around and go crazy!!

Well, I see why I am getting people mad......I forgot to put the words,"WHILE NO ONE IS IN THE THEATRE"

Sorry for the misunderstanding.. sad
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 4:47am

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what bugs me are the people who walk in through the exit after you walk out. I just want to beat them because I feel like they're disrespecting me. I just payed $10 to go see a movie, and then I leave the theater, and little jimmy a**hole over there grabs the door before it closes and runs off inside before I even have the chance to say anything.
Also, I think the theater loses more money than what the studio does.
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 5:23am

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swg33k wrote:

*ahem*.....That was when there is no-one in the theater.

For crying out loud you think I would just yap on my cellphone while a movie is going in a full theater?! I do it if there is no-one to annoy. I'm that that much of a butt to do such a thing.

Atom- Don't start the personal attacks please.

Sollthar, dude I don't go into movies with people in it and start being stupid to piss people off. Actually if you knew me I am NOT one of those freaks who go out and yell on my cellphone while others are trying to enjoy the movie.

Tarn- yes that was alot of sarcasm and I will repeat- I do not go into theaters start screwing around and go crazy!!

Well, I see why I am getting people mad......I forgot to put the words,"WHILE NO ONE IS IN THE THEATRE"

Sorry for the misunderstanding.. sad
Hahahaha so you go to movie theatres by yourself and go to movies no one is at and act stupid. What an incredible life you live. I hate to break it to you, but you can also do the same with with a tv and dvd player at your house.
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 6:41am

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LilCaesars wrote:

swg33k wrote:

*ahem*.....That was when there is no-one in the theater.

For crying out loud you think I would just yap on my cellphone while a movie is going in a full theater?! I do it if there is no-one to annoy. I'm that that much of a butt to do such a thing.

Atom- Don't start the personal attacks please.

Sollthar, dude I don't go into movies with people in it and start being stupid to piss people off. Actually if you knew me I am NOT one of those freaks who go out and yell on my cellphone while others are trying to enjoy the movie.

Tarn- yes that was alot of sarcasm and I will repeat- I do not go into theaters start screwing around and go crazy!!

Well, I see why I am getting people mad......I forgot to put the words,"WHILE NO ONE IS IN THE THEATRE"

Sorry for the misunderstanding.. sad
Hahahaha so you go to movie theatres by yourself and go to movies no one is at and act stupid. What an incredible life you live. I hate to break it to you, but you can also do the same with with a tv and dvd player at your house.
Exactly what I was thinking...
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Wow you all are gonna kill eachother, so to ease the anger... I hate it when you laugh really loud at somthing in the theatre, and no one else laughes and then they all stare at you like your retarted, "frick i can't laugh at soemthing that no one else thinks is funny, i hope you all die in a fire" ... ya that pisses me off.

and to not be completly off topic, there is never really two good movies ever showing at once, so I have never had to have the need to sneek into movies, why would i want to see a good movie and then crapy one, instead of wasting my time i could go home and make a good one.

Plus i dont really like the theaters, you always have smelly people next to you, kids yelling, and the sound quality is pretty bad. I personaly like waitng for the dvd then i see it, in my theater, comfy, good sound, my own smells, ya thats the way to do it.
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Zephlon wrote:

Wow you all are gonna kill eachother, so to ease the anger... I hate it when you laugh really loud at somthing in the theatre, and no one else laughes and then they all stare at you like your retarted
Heh, last time that happened to me was when I went to see Dog Soldiers. I don't think anybody else realised it was a comedy-horror, so while they were being terrified I was laughing profusely.

I couldn't help it, it's a very funny film. smile
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I remember laughing throughout the Ring. It was supposed to be a true horror movie, yet it had too many comedic elements to make it at all scary.
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rogolo wrote:

LilCaesars wrote:

swg33k wrote:

*ahem*.....That was when there is no-one in the theater.

For crying out loud you think I would just yap on my cellphone while a movie is going in a full theater?! I do it if there is no-one to annoy. I'm that that much of a butt to do such a thing.

Atom- Don't start the personal attacks please.

Sollthar, dude I don't go into movies with people in it and start being stupid to piss people off. Actually if you knew me I am NOT one of those freaks who go out and yell on my cellphone while others are trying to enjoy the movie.

Tarn- yes that was alot of sarcasm and I will repeat- I do not go into theaters start screwing around and go crazy!!

Well, I see why I am getting people mad......I forgot to put the words,"WHILE NO ONE IS IN THE THEATRE"

Sorry for the misunderstanding.. sad
Hahahaha so you go to movie theatres by yourself and go to movies no one is at and act stupid. What an incredible life you live. I hate to break it to you, but you can also do the same with with a tv and dvd player at your house.
Exactly what I was thinking...
Oh, I see so you pirate the movies then you go home and watch it?

Ha, I don't know if a 32' screen really compares to a projecter screen at a movie theatre.

My first post in this topic was a load of sarcasm but I forgot it's really hard to see sarcasm in text on the internet...

I acctually have only movie-hopped once, which is demonstarated in my first post about seeing Steve Martin fail utterly trying to play Cluso. (Whoever posted that thing a while back about hollywood going downhill is almost right, all they can do is remakes. confused)

Zephlon wrote:

Plus i dont really like the theaters, you always have smelly people next to you, kids yelling, and the sound quality is pretty bad. I personaly like waitng for the dvd then i see it, in my theater, comfy, good sound, my own smells, ya thats the way to do it.
That is a good point, people amaze me at theatres, such as the people bringing there 3 year olds to see something like Hostile. That just makes me sick.
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swg33k wrote:

Ha, I don't know if a 32' screen really compares to a projecter screen at a movie theatre.
You have a 32 foot screen? That's impressive. smile
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Zephlon wrote:

Wow you all are gonna kill eachother, so to ease the anger... I hate it when you laugh really loud at somthing in the theatre, and no one else laughes and then they all stare at you like your retarted
Heh. Yeah that happened to me once. It was LOTR: ROTK. I had already seen it once before (this was just before it left theatres) and for some reason, I seemed to find the part when Frodo gets stabbed by Shelob abnormally humerous. Fortunately, I was not alone in this and did not recieve quite as much attention.

Anyways, to stay on topic, yes, I think that sneaking into theatres is very wrong. While I might not use violent measures to enforce this, I am definately opposed to it. Movies may be overpriced, true, but that gives people no right to steal them. Just as people don't steal things from stores just because a product is overpriced or they think its a piece of junk.

Atom:

While that may have been a fake definition, you may find the definition of 'stupid' to be useful in applying to those who sneak into theatres.

dictionary.com wrote:

Stupid
adj.

Marked by a lack of intelligence or care
Keyword here is care wink ,

-Landon

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Harvey wrote:

swg33k wrote:

Ha, I don't know if a 32' screen really compares to a projecter screen at a movie theatre.
You have a 32 foot screen? That's impressive. smile
32" lol, smart@$$ wink
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Heh I couldn't resist. razz
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swg33k wrote:



Oh, I see so you pirate the movies then you go home and watch it?
Wow, I'm not seeing how you got that from my post. The point would be to buy the movie and go home and watch it. That would make a lot of sense for me to argue movie hopping and then go pirate a movie. Nice thinking! (sarcasm)
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Dude, how in God's good name am I supposed to watch movies currently only in theatres LEGALLY? Besides, I would rather spend $5.50 than buy the useless thing on DVD for an outrageous price of $21.
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What some of you people who enjoy stealing from movie theaters don't realize is that one of the reasons why movie tickets are increasing in price is for compensating for scumbags like you. Whenever someone doesn't pay for an admission ticket the theater is loosing money. In order to keep up sales they place higher prices for the rest of us law abiding citizens. This may in turn create a viscious cycle but you are where it originated.

You may cover up your stupid actions by calling us pansies for not thinking its "cool" to sneak into movies, but I hope their comes a day when you realize the wrong in your attitude. The problem is when someone believes that sneaking in is ok, whos to say they don't judge other criminal actions the same? If they will cheat the theater out of a $10 ticket will they also shoplift a $15 DVD?

What I don't understand is this is a community of aspiring filmmakers, many with the hopes of presenting their own work on the big screen some day. How would you like it if people were sneaking into your movie? Burning copies and distrubuting them illegaly? If this happened to you I'm sure your attitude would change.

That said, good directors rake in millions of dollars even if their work is being pirated. You may use this as an excuse or justification, but as I said to someone else, it doesn't effect the motive or reality of your actions in the first place. And also, if a movie blatantly sucks why would you be inclined to sneak into it in the first place?
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cinemafreak wrote:

What some of you people who enjoy stealing from movie theaters don't realize is that one of the reasons why movie tickets are increasing in price is for compensating for scumbags like you. Whenever someone doesn't pay for an admission ticket the theater is loosing money. In order to keep up sales they place higher prices for the rest of us law abiding citizens. This may in turn create a viscious cycle but you are where it originated.

You may cover up your stupid actions by calling us pansies for not thinking its "cool" to sneak into movies, but I hope their comes a day when you realize the wrong in your attitude. The problem is when someone believes that sneaking in is ok, whos to say they don't judge other criminal actions the same? If they will cheat the theater out of a $10 ticket will they also shoplift a $15 DVD?

What I don't understand is this is a community of aspiring filmmakers, many with the hopes of presenting their own work on the big screen some day. How would you like it if people were sneaking into your movie? Burning copies and distrubuting them illegaly? If this happened to you I'm sure your attitude would change.

That said, good directors rake in millions of dollars even if their work is being pirated. You may use this as an excuse or justification, but as I said to someone else, it doesn't effect the motive or reality of your actions in the first place. And also, if a movie blatantly sucks why would you be inclined to sneak into it in the first place?
Wow, I never thught of it that way..especially the thing about shoplifting, and us being filmmakers yet we are acting sorta stupid.

I've been proved wrong, +1....