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Corridor explosion

Posted: Tue, 21st Feb 2006, 7:57pm

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beastie14719

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Hi all,

I've been messing around with AlamDV2 for a while and have moved onto EffectsLab DV.

I'm still getting to grips with all the wonderful particle effects...

The problem I'm having is -

I've got a bit of footage of a long corridor (see pic below) stretching away from the camera. I want to make an explosion start at the far end of the corridor and the fire burst down towards the camera.

Don't suppose anyone has already done something like this?

Cheers smile

Posted: Tue, 21st Feb 2006, 8:06pm

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Oeyvind

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Well, explotions is very hard to create with the engines so far.. (Which is why this is hard to do by presets.) You should either use stock footage. To get the explotion coming towards the camera, just use some of these plug-ins and place them on the timeline after each others to move towards you. Make them bigger and bigger as the explotion progresses towards you. (The plug-ins needs to be converted into stock footage.

Hope I explained this properly..! If something's not clear, please let me know. wink Good luck!

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Posted: Tue, 21st Feb 2006, 8:12pm

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beastie14719

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Ah! That makes sense smile

Thanks for that. I'll get to work!
Posted: Tue, 21st Feb 2006, 10:03pm

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Oeyvind is right....but i'm not sure if all the way. It doen't seemed to be hard to make explosions just hard to make them look realistic. I mean explosions like fireworks are good but what your asking for might be hard to make good quality. Although I made a fireball effect that kinda explodes. So i'll see what i can do...I may not succeed at a preset like this but i can try...well before Axeman's Tutorial it was impossible!
Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2006, 1:10am

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I can make this using Lightwave for you...

Here's a pic of a quick test...

Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2006, 9:41am

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beastie14719

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Wow that's good!

I don't have the actual footage of the coridoor that I want to use ultimately (It's for a local TV ultra low budget scifi)

But I've been messing around with AlamDV2 explosions (as suggested above) and my current attempt doesn't look too bad. I'll post it on here later if anyone's interested.

GeeksGoneBad wrote:

I can make this using Lightwave for you...

Here's a pic of a quick test...
Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2006, 1:49pm

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Oeyvind

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GeeksGoneBad: Wow! That's really cool! biggrin You actually did that in Lightwave??? Curious to see how that looks when animated..! Great job!

beastie14719: Yeah, give us a picture! (Imageshack is very easy and free!)

Oeyvind
Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2006, 9:23pm

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beastie14719

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Oh well... this is my first EffectsLab DV animation... so it could definitely use some improvement... but I've got a month before they start filming this thing so I can practice.

http://www.armyofdarkness.co.uk/explode3.avi
Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2006, 9:43pm

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For a first test it's good. Even though you're not done I thought I add some pointers.

First of all, mask out the explotion around the actor and then tween the mask to get smaller and more feathered so it looks like the explotion swallows the actor.

The most importend thing is probably to use light effects and various gradefilters to make the hallway brighten up while the explotion pass.
This will look the thing melt in and match so much better. looks good!
Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2006, 11:09pm

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GeeksGoneBad

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another problem I see is that it's not contained in the hallway like it would be... It would be kinda square from the shape of the hallway...

The effect looks pretty good though, nice explosion... smile
Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2006, 3:36pm

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Oeyvind

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Yeah, and a few more explotions maybe and perhaps a camerashake would make it even more dramatic. Shots allways looks more pro when they contain camera movement. But I was actually kind of impressed by the shot, it looked cool! Using the air-explotions really gives you the feeling that the explotion is coming towards you.. Good job! biggrin

Oeyvind
Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2006, 11:15pm

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beastie14719

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Oeyvind wrote:

Yeah, and a few more explotions maybe and perhaps a camerashake would make it even more dramatic.
I think that single piece of advice has made this clip work!

Ok, bear in mind that this was just the result of a quick mess around with masks and movement... and I need to put more masks and explosions in (plus some light sources)

http://www.armyofdarkness.co.uk/mask_explode1b.avi

I think I need to make the movement more natural, but I'm pretty happy with this... It certainly looks much better than the current special effects they have in this SciFi.

Mind you, I want to get my hands on some decent quality footage to mess with rather than some video 8 offcuts that I took about four years ago...
Posted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006, 1:19pm

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looks great! came out really nice... good job! smile
Posted: Fri, 24th Feb 2006, 1:57pm

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Oeyvind

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Wow wow wow, that's really cool! Looked like the explotion had alot of power in it! :d Great job! It moved faster this time, I thought that worked! Nice! wink

Oeyvind
Posted: Tue, 21st Mar 2006, 12:36am

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Very well done! That was a cool test!
That turned out to be really good.
Posted: Fri, 24th Mar 2006, 3:42am

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Nice work, and the camera effect works great.
Posted: Fri, 24th Mar 2006, 10:10am

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Really nice work, looks really cool and it really does look powerful

WELL DONE smile

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