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Vue 5 Awesome natural 3D environments Application

Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 5:10pm

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mattio

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Hey guys,

My dad came home yesturday with a HUGE surprise for me. He works in the film industry and he managed to get a version of Vue 5 from one of his co-workers! He got me "Vue 5 Infinite". Vue 5 Infinite is the most efficient and advanced solution for creating, animating and rendering natural 3D environments. I was wondering if anyone else had this application and if so could you help me??? I want to make a city like in the video but don't no where to start or how to make the terrains as realistic looking as they get it. Just all round help me out... Its an absolutely amazing program... Heres the link...

HOME PAGE

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_5_infinite

AWESOME VIDEO DEMONSTATION OF IT

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_5_infinite/video/Vue_5_Infinite_480x270.mov
Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 5:12pm

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JT9

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AWSOME STUFF +1.biggrin
Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 5:17pm

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Dude, you're lucky to have a dad in the movie-buissness..! And what a amazing software you've gotten!! biggrin I had Vue d'Esprit 2 once, and I loved it. I've read about Vue 5 and it's supposed to be absolutely awsome! You should just search for tutorials, and please show us what you manage to make! (I'm curious about how much time it takes to learn! wink )

I think there's some tutorials here.

Good luck!
Oeyvind
Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 5:21pm

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Great news mattio! Now go out and create Earth 2.0 razz.

I bought Vue d'Espirit 4. It's great, but I havn't got any time to use it yet. It only costed me £69.
Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 5:29pm

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mattio

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Yeh im really happy! Anyway here are some pictures I made that took me about 2 minutes REALLY!







Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 5:34pm

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Here are some tutorials for you!
Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 8:40pm

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I've tried the demo before but never managed to get the photorealistic ecosystems and such that they show in the video. It all looks really fake. What am I missing?
Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 9:06pm

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mattio

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me to, in all the video's they have made it looks amazing quality. Maybe it's Depth of field, or scale im not sure. Because im new to this program how can I render to images, a whole bunch of images that I could put together and make as a video??? An image sequence.

EDIT: Im pretty sure its all about the render. Instead of setting it to preview set it to final or something. I just rendered another photo and it looks awesome.

EDIT2: Here I just uploaded the picture... It looks better quality than the ones above

Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 9:43pm

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Oeyvind

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Awsome, mattio, you've done this after owning the software for a few hours?! It's great! biggrin I'm sure we can expect great CG scenery from you, man! Should make a cool movie and submitt it to the FXhome cinema.. Keep it up, you learn quick! biggrin

Oeyvind
Posted: Sun, 26th Feb 2006, 10:08pm

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I have this program it makes making sceanery so easy with couple of clicks and it will look like u spent hours on it. Saying u mastered it is a joke because all it is is point and click. but i can say im good in this prog as im sure anybody will be. Tutorials are good but the whole thing islike a preset its worthless to have tuts. Try and do some more with it and ull be better. I used tolove this prog but it has too many limits on it. I also like making my own scenery from scratch because u know u got somthing original. on this prog u can make scenery difrent as hell but the textures and all are the same and not original. i recomend this to a beginner who doesint wana spend much time making terain and all. but theres free progsout there that do a good job if not better. I'm not flaming this prog at all. I am just recomending that after ur done with this prog dont let it limit u still try to do it ur self from scartch might take longer but u will get way better results.
Posted: Mon, 27th Feb 2006, 12:53am

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Obviously there is room to improve Lior, can we see some of your work? From what the pros have done, it is worth it saving time and emulating crowds/having a lot of elements in one shot. I am not doubting you, I just want to see if you've truly mastered it. And tutes are necessary for those who want to improve their skills and learn the program. It's like a manual, only it shows you how to apply it.
Posted: Mon, 27th Feb 2006, 2:09am

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If you read the top ull see i didin't say I mastered it. It's just i don't support this program because i believe it insults the creativity of artisits. I played with this prog alot. Shwing u examples of this prog would not proove anything. Get the trial to it and see for urself what u can do with a click of a button. Again i said im not flaming anybody. I just said if he would do it without the prog it might take long but produce something he can truly be proud to call his own. I give alot of respect to all those who strive to create their own stuff. I'm working on a big series. You will see more then enoufe. I never consider myself a pro no matter what. I believe that you need to do things urself. look at most of the movies like ultraviolet. I find it horible to see same textures same story lin repeated over and over. When i look at the movies in fxhome by you guys i enjoy watching it more then all these movies out because it's original. even the fan films have some orginality to it. I beleieve that instaed of doing what the "PROS" do try and make your own stuff from scratch because as u can see it's way better that way. I'm sorry if i sounded as a idiot before but i meant it in a positive way i hope nobody misunderstood me.
Posted: Mon, 27th Feb 2006, 6:31am

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mattio, coud you render a scene in the "Ultra" quality setting with a high resolution, so we can see some extreme details? smile
Posted: Mon, 27th Feb 2006, 2:01pm

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I use vue for 1-2 month now. Very very good program.

Shadu
Posted: Mon, 27th Feb 2006, 2:26pm

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well that video pretty much bought me. lol
it looks really impresive! ill learn it and play with it. this would make a really good flying fight sequence! that is all I could think about when watching it. smile
ill post some stuff when I make some images and videos.
-Aaron
Posted: Mon, 27th Feb 2006, 2:50pm

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Lior - I think you're making a good point (which I agree with) very badly.

Whilst it's true that programs like Vue, Poser and Bryce take away from the creative side of 3D and are programs that plenty of people use instead of taking the time to learn 3D - the end results always make that obvious. Ideally, 3D is easy. It just so happens that currently you achieve the best/most individual results by going the complicated route.

Aside from this, I think Vue is a program which definetly has it's uses. Polygon-precise modelling is not always necessary and may even be a waste of time. This is where Vue comes in, automating and creating scenes or backdrops/unimportant fly throughs which would otherwise take a studio a month or so.

The stuff created here is definetly a far stretch from being in any way creatively 3D. But it's still reasonably spiffy. I've played a little with Vue and quite liked the easy results.

-Hybrid.
Posted: Mon, 27th Feb 2006, 3:51pm

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I'll admit, I'm impressed.

That's something that's pretty hard to do. I'll admit I was VERY skeptical reading this post, as most of the "quick and easy" solutions tend to just utalize things that every major 3d package has, but just does it immediatly, because many people want it at the touch of a button. Impaitence has no place in 3D. If you say the work plugin, i'm usually found cringing in a corner.

So now you know how I feel, i'd like to come out and say that Vue 5 impresses me. At least the video did. The first portion of it anyways. Their solid-growth system looks just like Maya's paint effects, but more advanced. It looks to be a really nice improvement. The last half of the video though, seemed to tote tools and utilities that come standard with all the major 3D packages. Now, I understand you'd want to make sure you can render out with all your HDRI, GI, etc, etc, but 99% of the time what you've created would be exported to another (or several) program(s) for tweaking/rendering.

All in all, i'm quite impressed. I might just have to look into this if the need ever arises for this type of solution.

Congrats on the great find. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006, 10:41pm

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HI!! EVERY ONE I GOT THE PROGRAM YESTER DAY

VUE 5 infinite is a super program i have rendered out some images.
im lurning the program.

its cool!! biggrin biggrin

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Posted: Wed, 1st Mar 2006, 8:24am

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Congrats! Always good to lurn new skills. smile
Posted: Wed, 1st Mar 2006, 8:56pm

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Yep…Vue 4.22 user here smile
Great program.

Although I’m more interested in humour than creating anything serious with it.

Like my Pac Man smile
http://www.irishacts.com/misc/Pac-Land2.jpg

Regards
Sharp.
Posted: Wed, 1st Mar 2006, 9:17pm

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That looks strikingly like an M & M guy.
Posted: Wed, 1st Mar 2006, 10:03pm

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I bet render times with that foliage stuff is rediculous.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Mar 2006, 2:45am

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is this program just for making pictures or can the view move through the enviorment? like havine the camera move over a mountain or somethig?
Posted: Thu, 2nd Mar 2006, 9:18pm

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Holy crap. How long does it take to render a basic but life-like scene? If I had money and a good computer I would buy that in a flash.

That program = complete insanity...is it ok for commercial use??
Posted: Thu, 2nd Mar 2006, 10:28pm

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Vue 5 Infinite renders way faster than Bryce 5, especially when having billions of polygons in a scene. Thats really what it's meant for. But you can always export it's stuff directly to your favorite program and render it there. It's ecosystems render at standard video resolution in about minutes per frame, with the highest quality settings. It's very easily utilized in a commercial environment because of it's efficiency and quality. I purchased it for use at a Museum, which I'll use it for renders that will play alongside stuff from ILM. I wouldn't have bought it if I didn't think it was capable of proffesional realism. It really blows me away.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Mar 2006, 10:37pm

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Yes its an amazing program... You can also render out to a codec you want to save file size(I use this only when im NOT going to put it in one of my actual movies) like Sorenson or h.264 . What's the fastest and most efficient way to render still keeping its quality? could you render as all images like an image sequence? Also how do you add motion blur? It's such an awesome program and recommend EVERYONE try it out. You'll love it wink
Posted: Fri, 3rd Mar 2006, 3:30am

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If only I had the money.. sad

Anyways, go here to check out and download the trial versions of their products. You have to register an account and then receive an e-mail with the download link and serial code.

Maybe I can settle for Easel or the academic version of Espirit if I'm lucky. I'm going to check it out now.

EDIT: All right, I downloaded the trial version and after a few minutes of expirementing I came up with this:


Not bad, eh? Although I know tropical ferns don't grow on rock mountains. It's just almost the only plant that I can use in the demo that looked good on the mountain.