You are viewing an archive of the old fxhome.com forums. The community has since moved to hitfilm.com.

Mac Mini - Now with Intel

Posted: Fri, 3rd Mar 2006, 7:21pm

Post 1 of 36

rogolo

Force: 5436 | Joined: 29th May 2005 | Posts: 1513

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 4 User MacOS User

Gold Member

They are finally here:

Link

I've been waiting for this for a while, though I'll probably wait till next school year and get one off eBay. smile

Last edited Fri, 3rd Mar 2006, 7:31pm; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Fri, 3rd Mar 2006, 7:26pm

Post 2 of 36

Oeyvind

Force: 3040 | Joined: 6th Jun 2005 | Posts: 568

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Lite User FXpreset Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Looks cool! Pretty small thingy, though I bought my computer halv a year ago, so I'll stick with that! wink

Oeyvind
Posted: Fri, 3rd Mar 2006, 9:16pm

Post 3 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

It's got integrated graphics and is more expensive. Seriously, for 800$ you get a 60GB HD, a CD Reader, a mediocre CPU, 512MB of RAM (I think) and no graphic card. For 800$, you could get a PC roughly 3 times more powerful and with a graphic card.
Posted: Fri, 3rd Mar 2006, 10:33pm

Post 4 of 36

rogolo

Force: 5436 | Joined: 29th May 2005 | Posts: 1513

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 4 User MacOS User

Gold Member

Pooky wrote:

It's got integrated graphics and is more expensive. Seriously, for 800$ you get a 60GB HD, a CD Reader, a mediocre CPU, 512MB of RAM (I think) and no graphic card. For 800$, you could get a PC roughly 3 times more powerful and with a graphic card.
But I need a Mac, not Windows.
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 2:43am

Post 5 of 36

sfbmovieco

Force: 2354 | Joined: 19th Mar 2002 | Posts: 1552

VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 User Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Pooky wrote:

It's got integrated graphics and is more expensive. Seriously, for 800$ you get a 60GB HD, a CD Reader, a mediocre CPU, 512MB of RAM (I think) and no graphic card. For 800$, you could get a PC roughly 3 times more powerful and with a graphic card.
What's your point? tard
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:02am

Post 6 of 36

er-no

Force: 9531 | Joined: 24th Sep 2002 | Posts: 3964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Rating: +2

Yeah Pooky.

You have no point, I suggest you go and look for your point and when you have found it you can return.

Look for this sign, it should help right now.


razz
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:25am

Post 7 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

My point is that, OS X or not, this is a ripoff. I'm not dissing the mac platform because the Macbook and iMac are great, but this new Mac Mini rather sucks. You're much better off saving up for one of the more expensive machines.

Er-no, what are you saying anyway? If I don't worship anything Apple I should leave? I'm not trying to turn this into another flame war, but the fact that I'm not biased towards any company doesn't make me unfit to post, I think.

Last edited Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:30am; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:30am

Post 8 of 36

er-no

Force: 9531 | Joined: 24th Sep 2002 | Posts: 3964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Pooky wrote:

My point is that, OS X or not, this is a ripoff. I'm not dissing the mac platform because the Macbook and iMac are great, but this new Mac Mini rather sucks.

Er-no, what are you saying anyway? If I don't worship anything Apple I should leave? I'm not trying to turn this into another flame war, but the fact that I'm not biased towards any company doesn't make me unfit to post, I think.
I don't make that claim at all. I'm just helping you out with a photograph of an exit sign. The price of the Mac Mini reflects the fact it is pretty perfect in size, does a hell of a lot and well, its marketed at people who know what Mac's can do in comparisons to PC's - which is basically work without being major annoyances.

I just get the feeling everytime someone mentions something about Mac, you seem to want to dive in raving about some sort of PC descript you have ready. razz

Infact, having now read the Apple page.
That's a fantastic product.

Loving it... wonder if you could cluster them together to make some sort of Mac Mini Cluster.

Last edited Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:33am; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:32am

Post 9 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Ah, to the contrary. You are the one that will not hear one bit of negative criticism towards Apple or Nintendo. I simply point out that one of their products (I'll admit there are an awful lot lately) is poor, and suddenly I'm raving about PCs.

I don't really care at all what you use, but I'm just saying that the Mac Mini is purdy, expensive, and performs horribly considering the price.
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:35am

Post 10 of 36

er-no

Force: 9531 | Joined: 24th Sep 2002 | Posts: 3964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Pooky wrote:

Ah, to the contrary. You are the one that will not hear one bit of negative criticism towards Apple or Nintendo. I simply point out that one of their products (I'll admit there are an awful lot lately) is poor, and suddenly I'm raving about PCs.

I don't really care at all what you use, but I'm just saying that the Mac Mini is purdy, expensive, and performs horribly considering the price.
Have you used one? Doubt it.. therefore don't quote yourself into a hole on how it performs. Infact, you don't even own a Mac? Don't review something on performance until you've sampled the product.

As for me not wanting to hear one bit of negative criticism towards Nintendo or Apple? That's rubbish, I'll be the first to admit when something is retarded or stupid. In both Nintendo's case and Apple's.
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:40am

Post 11 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

I'll admit that I haven't tried one, but since this isn't PowerPC anymore you can pretty much compare it directly to PC hardware, so just in PC hardware terms, it stinks. I don't own a mac, but my friend's brother has a MacBook (upgraded from Powerbook recently) and I use it now and then when I'm at his house to do some video work and play WoW with him, every now and then.

Now, OS X is great, and it is better than XP (yet not worth the price and trouble to switch, IMO) but all I'm saying is that the new mini stinks...
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:42am

Post 12 of 36

er-no

Force: 9531 | Joined: 24th Sep 2002 | Posts: 3964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

I think its a small white sex box.


And so ends my conversation in this thread.
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:42am

Post 13 of 36

Kid

Force: 4177 | Joined: 1st Apr 2001 | Posts: 1876

EffectsLab Lite User VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

I think pooky has quite a good point. The mac mini is against all the advantages that macs have over pcs and now at a more expensive price than the old mac mini.

It does seem totally not worth it compared to the old one. Performance is four times better in a market where pcs are 7 times better than when the old one came out. The price is higher when pcs have dropped in price by half or upto 2/3rds. Mini-itx is getting better and better and beating it on power/size to performance so I think it really has lost the battle.

You can go on about the lack of annoyance of having a mac but I think that is down to a lame user. A good pc is as good as a mac for reliability.

I'm not sure the first intel macs will compare so well with pcs either but when they get their act together I expect they will be a decent option for people who prefer macs. The mini though I think had a niche for a short time but that time has passed.
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:45am

Post 14 of 36

er-no

Force: 9531 | Joined: 24th Sep 2002 | Posts: 3964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Kid and Pooky are jealous and want a small white sex box bad*


*referring to the Mac Mini
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:47am

Post 15 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

What the...
Posted: Sat, 4th Mar 2006, 3:51am

Post 16 of 36

Kid

Force: 4177 | Joined: 1st Apr 2001 | Posts: 1876

EffectsLab Lite User VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

er-no wrote:

Kid and Pooky are jealous and want a small white sex box bad*
I do, but unfortunatly her boyfriend was a bit annoyed and I had to go home empty handed.
Posted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006, 1:00am

Post 17 of 36

Fill

Force: 1257 | Joined: 1st Jul 2005 | Posts: 1652

CompositeLab Lite User EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

I think Pooky has a good point. I wanted a Mac mini but for $430 I got a windows PC with 512MB RAM. 200GB drive(SETA) and a load of stuff.

Really I don't know if a 40GB 256MB Mac Mini(Even though I wouldn't get bluescreens....) would seriously stand up to something so good.

Macs are solid programing and ingenius ways of marketing and making the cool stuff work! Even though I was just comparing a good deal compared to a 'rip-off' I'd say they are pretty much tied.
Posted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006, 1:04am

Post 18 of 36

Bryce007

Force: 1910 | Joined: 5th Apr 2003 | Posts: 2609

VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

Well, taking the actual components into account, You really can't compare this to a pc. I built a Very fast pc for a little more than half the amount they want for this little white sex box, and i'm still using it without complaints. This is clearly for women, or people who have almost no space, or people that only care about looks. Otherwise, This is really no very cost efficient.
Posted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006, 1:07am

Post 19 of 36

Atom

Force: 4300 | Joined: 9th May 2004 | Posts: 7014

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

I'm not one to advocate Dell, but...
Once you go black, you don't go back. And you'll save yourself money enough to throw in a flat panel display.
Posted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006, 1:10am

Post 20 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

swg33k wrote:

(Even though I wouldn't get bluescreens....)
Oh come on, as Penny Arcade puts it, jokes about "blue screens" and what not ring like tired vaudeville acts. The only time you see a blue screen in XP is when something goes wrong with your video drivers (at least that's all I've managed to do) which basically only happens if you try to.
Posted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006, 1:25am

Post 21 of 36

Fill

Force: 1257 | Joined: 1st Jul 2005 | Posts: 1652

CompositeLab Lite User EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

Pooky wrote:

swg33k wrote:

(Even though I wouldn't get bluescreens....)
Oh come on, as Penny Arcade puts it, jokes about "blue screens" and what not ring like tired vaudeville acts. The only time you see a blue screen in XP is when something goes wrong with your video drivers (at least that's all I've managed to do) which basically only happens if you try to.
I've gotten bluescreens from trying to install things, set up audio components and Pooky yes you are right video components, especially my DVD player which is supposed to be high-quality. If something crashes most likely the program isn't being stupid it's Windows.

Besides, Macs for one thing work. All the programs for the Macs are pretty much the same for each system. You don't see a program for a certain 'type' of Mac therfore you don't have to install all these extra components and download more crap just to use one measly program.
Posted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006, 2:58am

Post 22 of 36

Atom

Force: 4300 | Joined: 9th May 2004 | Posts: 7014

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

swg33k wrote:

Besides, Macs for one thing work. All the programs for the Macs are pretty much the same for each system. You don't see a program for a certain 'type' of Mac therfore you don't have to install all these extra components and download more crap just to use one measly program.
Ah, the Nazi-style decision. You don't have a choice on the matter, therefore the choice is clear.



Good thing you have such weighted issues on Mac v. PC such as "bluescreens". The reason Macs dont have bluescreens is because they couldn't begin to do the process that causes a bluescreen in the first place. (Joke, " smile " Just to clarify)
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 12:18pm

Post 23 of 36

jotoki

Force: 1855 | Joined: 28th Dec 2001 | Posts: 630

VisionLab User Windows User

Gold Member

why do these threads always end up as battles between PC and apple advocates. I've always used PC's cos thats what the vast majority of people I would be searching for a job from use. I have looked at getting a mac numerous times to try one out see if they are as good as the macphiles make them out to be but price is always prohibitive. When the mac mini first came out I thought great I can try one out finally....till I saw the specification. Ok so at the time they were G4 or G5 or whatever but now, with intel chips as well the comparison with PC's they are just a real rip off even with OSX (i've had none of the problems that some have had with XP and I've used it for years so I dont see OSX that as a big selling point...personal opinion only so dont get on my back). I know that Apple do make some good products further up the range (am I allowed to say that having not ever used one, someone got dissed for saying something was bad having never used it, will i get dissed for saying something is good for the same reason ? I doubt it. Funny that). Since a premium is supposedly being paid for getting stuff into a small space it might be fairer to compare them to laptops than desktops but then you must include screens keyboards and mice in the price of the machine. However you slice it this machine is way overpriced. It's a shame as I hoped they might reprice when moving to intel so I could afford to give a mac a try. untill they come up with a decent specification reasonably priced mac I'm gonna stick with PC's. With intel machines the specification comparison to PC's becomes a pretty direct one hardware wise. I know mac users dont like this but it's true. The claimed PowerPC advantage is gone. Apple need to reprice a bit. I doubt they will though.
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 6:37pm

Post 24 of 36

cantaclaro

Force: 2036 | Joined: 24th Oct 2001 | Posts: 875

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Pooky wrote:

I'll admit that I haven't tried one, but since this isn't PowerPC anymore you can pretty much compare it directly to PC hardware, so just in PC hardware terms, it stinks. I don't own a mac, but my friend's brother has a MacBook (upgraded from Powerbook recently) and I use it now and then when I'm at his house to do some video work and play WoW with him, every now and then.

Now, OS X is great, and it is better than XP (yet not worth the price and trouble to switch, IMO) but all I'm saying is that the new mini stinks...
Yes pooky I'm sure you "use it now and then" seeing as how the Macbook Pro just began shipping in late February (read: Feb. 24th) (you posted that on March 3rd) and it won't run After Effects, or any of the Apple pro video apps until at least the end of March. Oh yeah, and WoW doesn't play worth a crap on them either (until they release a Universal Binary of it in a few months). Methinks you are a lying PC fanboy, I could be wrong though. At least when we criticize PC's, er-no and I both have them and use them fairly proficiently.

Ugg the lengths people will go to keep a lie going.

Canta
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 7:00pm

Post 25 of 36

Joshua Davies

Force: 25400 | Joined: 21st Mar 2001 | Posts: 3029

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

FXhome Team Member

Rating: +3

"For 800$, you could get a PC roughly 3 times more powerful and with a graphic card."

Erm, what? Sure you could get more powerful graphics which would take up over $100 if you want it to be more powerful than the Intel onboard stuff (even more if you want a significant advantage). For $800 (or 600-700 once your have your GPU) you will not get a machine which is 3 times more powerful than the Core Duo Mini.

The Core Duo is a decent fast chip even when its clocked at only 1.66GHz.

"but all I'm saying is that the new mini stinks"

No it doesn't, to make a PC this small with the same features would cost a lot of money as well. The point of the Mini is NOT to replace a big desktop for power/gaming users (hence they make the iMac etc with more powerful GPUs which can also support external monitors).

This is a small attractive machine which can sit next to your TV and be used for home movie editing, dvds, general internet and email. Its not for running Final Cut Pro or replacing your Xbox 360. Please get a clue!

The same people always seem to hit out on Mac threads with silly and illogical arguements. Canto makes a good point about the recently shipped MacBook Pro which Pooky apparently uses "now and then" as well. The first shipments went out very late Feb - you sure you didn't try a Powerbook?

The Core Duo processors are also pretty rare/new even in the PC world so few people have sampled them either.

Cogz has a Core Duo Viao 1.66GHz which seems like a very speedy and decent machine but I'm yet to play with it that much. He is already using it over his 2.6GHz P4 HT desktop as its generally faster. I'm not sure how I would go about making a decent machine for $800 which was more than 3 times faster than a 2.6GHz P4 HT AND have a reasonable graphics card... sounds like Pooky madness to me.

Macs are always more expensive than PCs for many reasons from marketting to design and construction. But to bash them and make claims about making machines 3 times more powerful for the same money (even before including the GPU) when you have zero experience is just a bit silly.

Sure Apple could spend less on making its own OS and extensive software range and a lot less on the marketting and hype but then it wouldn't be Apple and we wouldn't have their great software or their great image. PC software and hardware would also suffer not having to live up to Apple's designs and innovation (in some areas).

We don't need another Microsoft or Dell so I'm happy to pay a bit more to have an Apple.
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 7:42pm

Post 26 of 36

Klut

Force: 2120 | Joined: 16th Apr 2004 | Posts: 1585

VisionLab User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Also, mac mini comes with iLife...
decent dvd, editing ( in HD!) , garageband, photo etc software
Which is all stuff you would also have to buy on a pc, but comes free with all macs.
And Mac Mini with intel also comes with front row and an apple remote, I've tried it, it's brilliant!

Thumbs up, the Intel Mac Mini is a great deal.
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 9:00pm

Post 27 of 36

jotoki

Force: 1855 | Joined: 28th Dec 2001 | Posts: 630

VisionLab User Windows User

Gold Member

Having had a look at the apple web site if it was me I'd go for an imac. They look like a much better deal than the mini. Classy design or not the mini is way overpriced, core duo or not. I might even go for an imac myself.
Posted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006, 11:56pm

Post 28 of 36

Joshua Davies

Force: 25400 | Joined: 21st Mar 2001 | Posts: 3029

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

FXhome Team Member

If you consider what you get in terms of software, hardware and (maybe most importantly) a stunningly tiny package the Mini isn't that overpriced at all.

Here in the UK the only PC I can find (pointed out by Nagual) which is as small as the Mini is made by Evesham and is slower, more expensive and doesn't come with the great software or a remote control. It also looks pretty badly constructed compared to the Mini.

You could argue that all laptops are poor value compared to desktops in the same way most people are saying the Mini is poor value. If you're not in the market for a "mini" computer then it is overpriced compared to more bulky offerings - but in that case get an iMac or a Dell as the Mini isn't aimed at you.

If you consider like-for-like (i.e. a tiny media PC made to be part of your home entertainment setup) then the Mini is one of Apple's best value computers to date.
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 11:44am

Post 29 of 36

jotoki

Force: 1855 | Joined: 28th Dec 2001 | Posts: 630

VisionLab User Windows User

Gold Member

of course that all depends on why you're choosing a mac mini, is it for size or is it just coz it's seemingly cheaper. IF you truly want a tiny white box and thats your sole reason for buying then fine, if you look beyond that it's not good value, just depends why you're looking at the mac mini in the firstplace.
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 1:50pm

Post 30 of 36

Joshua Davies

Force: 25400 | Joined: 21st Mar 2001 | Posts: 3029

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

FXhome Team Member

Personally I think there is a clue about the main feature of the Mac Mini in the name of the product...

Even away from its main feature the Mini isn't terrible value for money considering the hardware, software and after sales support you get. Sure you can make a (much larger) computer which is more powerful and expandable yourself for the same money but thats hardly the point.

If you are going to consider DIY computers then EVERY main brand manufacturer could be considered poor value for money for the physical product you get - whats missing here is the service/after sales element. Most consumers don't want to make a machine from components and want a warrenty and support for a whole machine not each individual bit - in the case of the Mini this includes the standard software.

If you're looking at the Mini because you want a fully featured main computer then I think you're missing something...like the rest of the Apple range (or other PC makers for that matter).
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 4:11pm

Post 31 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Alright, so to summarize what I think you're saying, you're saying that even if you can build a normal sized yet more powerful PC for the same amount of money, the Mini's size, looks, support and the solid software that comes with it make it worth it. Well, I suppose I could agree to that razz

Although regarding its use as a media center type thing, from what I've seen of Front Row it doesn't look all that amazing to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 4:54pm

Post 32 of 36

DigiSm89

Force: 815 | Joined: 2nd Jun 2002 | Posts: 1898

Windows User

Member

Pooky wrote:

Although regarding its use as a media center type thing, from what I've seen of Front Row it doesn't look all that amazing to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
AFAIK, what makes Front Row special in terms of media center is the ease in setting it up as a Media Center-like device.

Though, this is in comparison to Windows Media Center, which I've heard to be a pain in terms of networking, etc. (I haven't attempted a Media Center network yet as I still need to get my other PCs up to speed).


schwar, I remember awhile back there were two problems with the Mac Mini: 1.) Overheating and 2.) Inability to correctly play HD content. Do you know if these problems have been fixed? I've been too busy to follow the mac world for a while so I'm not exactly sure whether these problems have gone away.
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 5:01pm

Post 33 of 36

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Ease of use... fair enough.
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 5:13pm

Post 34 of 36

Joshua Davies

Force: 25400 | Joined: 21st Mar 2001 | Posts: 3029

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

FXhome Team Member

I've not read anything about problems with Minis overheating - when was this?

The Core Duo should be able to handle HD content and the videocard can handle HD resolution as well.

Its also got Firewire as standard so I would think you could import HDV content easily to editing in iMovie HD...
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 5:31pm

Post 35 of 36

DigiSm89

Force: 815 | Joined: 2nd Jun 2002 | Posts: 1898

Windows User

Member

Don't remember the exact date, but there were many articles concerning overheating issues.

I quickly did a Google search on it and found one article.

Anyways, I can't back the overheating issue with any substantial evidence. It could have just been the same deal with the 360, a common margin of error in almost every consumer device. Or the problem must have gone away.

Whatever the case, I can't actually back up the issue, so forget what I just said. razz
Posted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006, 10:17pm

Post 36 of 36

A Pickle

Force: 1235 | Joined: 7th Sep 2004 | Posts: 1280

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Two words... or one... or whatever... regarding the Mac Mini. $800 for GMA950 graphics? Oh yeah. We're pumping frames now.

I have to say, I've taken a lot less of a malicious stance towards Apple, even though my initial experiences with Mac OS X took that "it just works" idea, crumbled it up, threw it into a trash can and lit it on fire.

OS X works the same way Windows does. If you take care of it, it's nice to use. Windows happens to have a higher learning curve in terms of maintenance, but it honestly isn't that hard. And once you learn it, Windows can expose you to a world of software and fun stuff at a much lower price. A Windows run PC can do anything a Mac can do, they're just generally cheaper.

-Pikl