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Splinter Cell Teaser

Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2006, 3:42pm

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As the title reads, this is the official teaser trailer for the newly retitled "Splinter Cell: The Gorsky Assignment". While this project peaked interest some time around last fall, it quickly lost its popularity. To prove we've actually been making headway since, we felt it necessary to cut together a trailer.

Everything you see in the teaser is four days worth of production, dispersed amongst a large amount of time. All images recorded on a Canon GL2, then edited and graded in Vegas. If you have a subwoofer, I'd recommend turning up the bass a good deal, as it and all the sound in this trailer add a little 'oomph' when turned up louder. Enjoy!


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Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2006, 4:22pm

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Dude, that was very cool! biggrin I loved the shot of the guy standing in the rain with all the green filter stuff. Great grading and camera work. The editing I think was done in a very good way, you know first slow then the climax of the trailer. I liked the lightning on these shots, cool with backlight! Nice weapons... I think this trailer had a very good overall, I'm giving it a 4\5! wink Great work, looking forward to the finished film!

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Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2006, 6:05pm

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That was very cool. Extremely well edited. No major (or minor) complaints from me.

The only thing I would have done differently is in the last shot I was expecting Sam to pull down his goggles and you'd hear the whir of them, and the green lights which would fade to the title. That would have been sweet.

Otherwise, excellent job guys!
Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2006, 6:58pm

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I personally know how much time and thought was invested into making this teaser as concise as possible, and as far as trailers go, this is right on the money. 4/5

Oh, and for those of you that wanted a goggle-pull at the end, that angle ended too quickly to have enough time to add an effect and fade to white, hence the abrupt transition to a flash of a title.
Posted: Mon, 13th Mar 2006, 7:49pm

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Yep, great trailer!

Nothing really more I can say about is; it was simply good! 4/5.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 12:26am

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Thanks for all the positive feedback, guys. Timmy, any comment? wink

Hope everybody gives a short glance at this, and the website with storyboards, behind-the-scenes, etc. that'll hopefully be up very soon. Right now, we're just trying to start this project backup and go back to experimenting and having fun with it. Because of this, we don't really have an official release date.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 12:32am

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Wait a tick.

Sam Fisher. The Gorsky Assignment.
Sam Gorsky

Coincidence? I think not.

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Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 12:47am

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Well the audio was kinda rough (clicks and pops as well as some of the dailogue being really low/ panned to the left speaker). The CC was pretty nice (going for that super high contrast look, eh?). The trailer didn't really suck me in all that much but it does seem to be a solid production. 3/5






P.S. Why did you rate your own movie?
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 1:05am

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Ooh, loved the cinematography on this, and the editing. One thing really really annoyed me though: Sam Fisher, who is supposed to be a highly trained operative, holds his mp5 by the clip in one shot, which is a very stupid mistake to do in real life.

Just a small thing though, great teaser. 4/5 because it's just a teaser.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 3:14am

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Very nice. 0/5 because you've had so much time. wink Nah, I gave you guys a 4, good job. I still have high expectations if my original expectations come true (it gets released in my lifetime.) I too expected the goggle at the end, but that's really no biggie. This is the highest score I would ever give a teaser. Trailers get 5s if they are mind blowing. Teasers get 4s if they are mind blowing, and you guys pretty much did that.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 4:26am

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Pretty nice trailer there.

Final thing plz.


wink biggrin
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 5:34am

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I'm gonna go ahead and address everything here, so pardon me if this sounds long-winded.

Marek wrote:

Wait a tick.

Sam Fisher. The Gorsky Assignment.
Sam Gorsky

Coincidence? I think not.
You're right, actually. The name came up while brainstorming a more serious title, and it stuck. We did, however, decide to change the spelling ("Gorski" to "Gorsky"), but the name is there nonetheless. An homage, one might call it.

TheRenegade wrote:

Well the audio was kinda rough (clicks and pops as well as some of the dailogue being really low/ panned to the left speaker).
Some clicks, pops, and whirs where on purpose to be used as gun sounds, but maybe that got lost in translation. Other things you might be hearing are audio fragments from compression. As far as low panned audio goes, I dunno what settings your speakers have, or why this may be, but this doesn't happen on my end. I can understand one or two quotes being only heard on the left, as some of it was recorded with a mono microphone, then mastered to stereo, so I guess that could be a mistake on my part, sorry.

TheRenegade wrote:

The CC was pretty nice (going for that super high contrast look, eh?).
Thanks. Actually, whilst we are keeping a lot of the footage high contrast, many clips had contrast upped even more to flow better with others of higher contrast. Excessive green tints were also added to many clips so that there weren't any awkward color transitions in the teaser.

TheRenegade wrote:

P.S. Why did you rate your own movie?
I'll field this one, though I'm sure you're referring to Atom. I think one should be able to rate one's own movie, so long as it's justified, am I right? Atom decided to input his vote after a consensus of others who voted such said that a 4 was justified. Even the President can vote for himself, am I right? smile

Pooky wrote:

Ooh, loved the cinematography on this
Thanks, I tried to avoid ill-framing whenever possible. If something couldn't be shot properly (for whatever reason), then it simply wasn't shot; which is partially why this has taken so long. Our group is full of picky cinematographers. wink

Pooky wrote:

One thing really really annoyed me though: Sam Fisher, who is supposed to be a highly trained operative, holds his mp5 by the clip in one shot, which is a very stupid mistake to do in real life.
Well, seeing as you were one of the first to see the intro, you must know that that is one of our very first shots. When we shot those, we actually considered spoofing SC rather than taking a serious tone, so the semantics of things like that weren't all taken into consideration. That, and the mp5 is INSANELY small (because it's a toy) and really the only to hold is the clip. Keep in mind we have NO budget here, so my friend's little brother's dollar-store toy gun was all we really had at that point. smile Ultimately, because of the problem which you pointed out, that angle was thrown out of the final film.

Serpent wrote:

Very nice. 0/5 because you've had so much time. wink
Ba-WHA?!? Oh, nevermind. I got a little scared there.

Serpent wrote:

This is the highest score I would ever give a teaser. Trailers get 5s if they are mind blowing. Teasers get 4s if they are mind blowing, and you guys pretty much did that.
Teaser? Did we say teaser? This is...um....really a trailer. Uh...yeah. biggrin

er-no wrote:

Final thing plz.
You needn't worry, it'll arrive in due time. Maybe. wink

Altogether, thanks everyone for your votes and comments, they're all appreciated, as well as is constructive criticism. I'm a little surprised TimmyD hasn't said anything, but I'm sure he will sometime. smile

Oh well, again, thanks everyone!
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 6:29am

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Thanks for the positive feedback, everybody.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:37pm

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That looks really cool! I want the whole movie!! biggrin I would have liked it a bit more if some lines were actually said in the teaser instead of removing the sound (maybe they give away the plot?). smile

Great job!

4/5
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:43pm

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Redhawksrymmer wrote:

That looks really cool! I want the whole movie!! biggrin I would have liked it a bit more if some lines were actually said in the teaser instead of removing the sound (maybe they give away the plot?). smile

Great job!

4/5
Thanks, not quite sure I follow about removing the sound, but as for clipping some lines out; it was to leave the viewer wanting more, thus is the job of a teaser. smile
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:46pm

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I like how you voted on your own movie.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:52pm

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I like how you can't help but always respond rudely to me and my brother without actually adding anything meaningful to the thread or commenting on the movie. Way to go.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:54pm

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How was that rude?

Anyways:

Great trailer, actually. The movies almost looks worth the hype you've made around it.
It looks really pro in fact.
Brilliant camera work, and awesome grading. I like the looks of this.
I would give it 5/5, but cause of bit pour sound (voices) and the fact that it's only a trailer, makes me give this a 0...

Nah, just kidding. 4/5 smile
I look forward to the real deal wink

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Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:57pm

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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound callous, I just thought we already addressed that it wasn't as taboo to vote on one's own movie anymore. That, and the fact that you neglected to comment on the movie, came off as being rude. Sorry if I took it the wrong way.

EDIT: Thanks for the comments, Klut. Glad you think it looks pro, that's really inspiring. I'm also pleasantly surprised that you gave it a 4, was expecting a lower rating given yours and Atom's history. smile Well, all-in-all, thanks.
Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 5:12pm

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Nice to see some moving images of this!

I've always wondered why people can't vote someting for what it is with comments like "it's only a teaser and I never give teasers a 5" or "it's only a music video..." "only a Test" etc. Why not take it for what it is and vote it accordingly? unsure


I liked the grading of the footage - as in the screenshots, it looked pretty cool. Good contrast, good play with lighting etc.
Some of the handheld shots put me a bit off, as they the looked too... well... handheld to me. (especially the thrid shot)

The audioquality is as mentioned a lowdown of an otherwise very nicely structured sounddesign with good choice of music and a nice buildup, which is a shame.

What was a bit of a letdown for me too was the look of the actors. They just didn't seem to fit - looked too young to me. Especially with something that looks visually as believable as this, having people at that age gives it an immedeate "I made a film with my friends" feel.
(And there was one shot which wasn't properly deinterlaced, that takes away of the "pro" feeling too)

What again looked cool though was the costumes. Especially the Sam Fisher outfit obviously had a cool and sam fishery look to it. cool



So for a Teaser, it does what it's supposed to do - it teases. smile
So I'll be waiting for a Trailer or the full then once you're done! Looks pretty cool so far!
Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 5:16pm

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Sollthar wrote:

Why not take it for what it is and vote it accordingly? unsure
You have a point, really...
I will never think about genre again....
Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 8:06pm

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Well, I got round to watching this - it's pretty damn good.

There are just a few things that let it down for me. Though some of the grading on some shots is downright superb, in certain other shots it's just not subtle enough. The main impression I got from the trailer was "that looked like there was some nice grading", rather than "that looks good, I want to watch that". I think that learning where to draw the line between subtle and un-noticable is very hard, but you should get better at it with time.

The same goes for some of the photography, as Sollthar has mentioned - some shots are beautiful, but then others look handheld. That might be because it's been taken out of context, it still put me off somewhat.

And it's true that some of your actors don't seem to fit the roles they're playing - I think maybe you should try to play to your strengths, so rather than making a movie about SC, do something a little more attainable - or at least work out a reason why these kids are in such fantastic situations.

A good mantra to work with is "What you can't disguise - emphasise". Basically, you're not going to make your actors all look 21, no matter how hard you try, so you should maybe think of ways of working younger people into the plot (maybe in a 'Young Indiana Jones' style?).

I hope this advice is useful to you guys! Keep up the good work.

Cheers,
Arktic.
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Sollthar wrote:

Nice to see some moving images of this!

I've always wondered why people can't vote someting for what it is with comments like "it's only a teaser and I never give teasers a 5" or "it's only a music video..." "only a Test" etc. Why not take it for what it is and vote it accordingly? unsure
Because it wasn't good enouggh for a 5/5. It was only a small handful of clips and I don't think any test or teaser (unless the test is a short film testing out ___) deserve to be placed with full films. Kudos on a great teaser, but it wasn't good enough for a 5. Teasers are also not good enough for a 5/5. This is my opinion on the matter. My generous vote remains at a 4/5, I generally don't do that, especially if I am expecting a trailer or a film afterwards.
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I think you got me wrong, I'm not saying THIS deserves a 5 - I'm just wondering in general.

Why a Teaser shouldn't be rated with 5 stars when it's an excellent piece of work? There's loads of work that can go into a Teaser, or a Trailer, or a Test. And it can be brilliant - I mean, some Trailers are better then the actual film, maybe you've experienced that too somewhen... I sure did. And I've seen some tests that blew me away more then some FX I've seen in a feature film. smile


Anyhow, this is kinda off topic. Maybe I'll start a thread sometime, cause I think it would be interesting to debate on that and hear different opinions on the matter.
Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 9:45pm

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I am looking forward to this film but I thought the teaser was kind of mediocre. The rain shot was really good, and so was the grading, but the audio quality killed it for me, especially the first shot. The audio in the first shot was hardly even legible and also wasn't very good quality. Other than that every thing seemed pretty solid. I'd imagine the sound isn't going to be that great in the final but as long as I can understand everything it'll be ok.
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Basically.

There should be a trailer section of the site.

That's all.
Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 10:39pm

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Sollthar wrote:

I think you got me wrong, I'm not saying THIS deserves a 5 - I'm just wondering in general.

Why a Teaser shouldn't be rated with 5 stars when it's an excellent piece of work? There's loads of work that can go into a Teaser, or a Trailer, or a Test. And it can be brilliant - I mean, some Trailers are better then the actual film, maybe you've experienced that too somewhen... I sure did. And I've seen some tests that blew me away more then some FX I've seen in a feature film. smile


Anyhow, this is kinda off topic. Maybe I'll start a thread sometime, cause I think it would be interesting to debate on that and hear different opinions on the matter.
Well, I have never expierienced a TEASER so awesome that it deserves a 5. Maybe they are out there, but even pros only get 4s from me. Trailers can get 5s as well. Tests could get a 5 if it is min blowing, but I have not yet seen that. And even then, I really think it would have to revolutionize filmmaking or something. I agree with er-no, but tests should also get their own category. This is an effect-oriented site so tests would be a good category and eliminate all of this mess about voting etc.
Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 10:48pm

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I thought it was really good-cant wait to see the real deal!

PS-I remember back a LONG TIME AGO when you made the thread about where to find cheap Sam Fisher goggles, back when your film was just an idea. Great job!
Posted: Thu, 16th Mar 2006, 2:39am

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Again, I cannot thank everyone enough for their comments and praise, it is truly appreciated. Again, I'm gonna go ahead again and address everyone's issues here....

As far as shaky or handheld cinematography goes, Arktic's pretty right here, most is actually pretty smooth, just taken out of context of a scene. Also, the two shots following the line "Fisher" are digitally panned and zoomed, to add a sort of 'quickness' to the shots. I myself think I have a very "Warning-Sign-ish" steadiness when it comes to handling a camera. biggrin

Also, about the actors, I think we've got a pretty good motif in regards to age. In the movie, we actually do emphasise the fact that the characters are younger. Our character design for the Gunman and Fisher was too make them 19 or 20, as in fresh out of schooling, eager to enter jobs as civil servants. This was purposeful, and there was actually a whole few scenes we were going to do to thoroughly explain the origins of the two main characters; but we feared that the scenes would be ill-placed in the movie and they were generally unecessary. We all have to trim the fat from our scripts, am I right? wink One of our actor's is actually meant to be younger, to make the other actors look older by comparison. Hence the use of the word "kid" in the teaser.

Just so everyone knows, most, if not all of the problems regarding audio are due to compression. This was rendered out in Vegas with the Quicktime 3mbps template, which I cannot customize, as I don't have QT Pro. My friend, who is hosting this, said that with his bandwith he could only take one file; and whilst I contemplated rendering a nice DivX version, I decided to go .mov, as more people are able to play it. The audio in the overall thing is pretty decent, actually, as we've had the great opportunity or using a borrowed electret condenser shotgun mic.

On to grading. As was aforementioned, many shots were somewhat "overgraded" to match other shots. (To establish a better flow) Anyone who has seen the intro knows that the shots aren't really that too high of a contrast, it's just graded that way to match up better in the teaser. I myself prefer subtle yet stylized grading to something extreme (the green in the rain shot), but Atom felt we really needed to accentuate how green of a tone the movie had.

Also, in regard to the compliments of costume, I couldn't help but laugh out loud there. When we made this, we pretty ravaged our closets and found whatever we could to assemble a costume. Fisher's costume actually changes alot of multiple occasions (few which the audience can tell, but we just used whatever we had when we needed to film). The main parts of Fisher's costume were a black turtleneck (if we could find a clean one) and some black yoga pants (dark jeans with black velcro and straps and such around the kneecaps if we couldn't find the former). Extra parts of the costume were a broken toy BB gun zippered up in a sling pack and tied to Fisher's back, a small, used laptop case from the GAP as a chest plate and storage for his mp5, and a single old bicyclist's glove with the fingers cut out. As for the goggles, they were simply toy binoculars with a 'reinvented' toilet paper roll on top, all taped together in glorious black electrical tape. We assembled all parts of the costume delicately, as we wanted it to look as good as possible without actually spending any money. (I think we reached our goal on that one wink )

All-in-all, I guess you'll all have to see the complete movie to make a final verdict, even if the release of such is a lightyear away. wink
Well, thanks again for the response everyone, it'll help in finishing and polishing the whole movie.
Posted: Thu, 16th Mar 2006, 4:19am

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Looks like mostly positive comments, so I'll just go ahead and say "thanks very much for the positive comments." I, of course, edited the trailer and regraded all of the clips in it, as well as the sound-design.
Posted: Fri, 17th Mar 2006, 7:53pm

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On the vision and effort fronts, i rate this highly. There was even a brief shot where I uttered a "woah!" out loud (the rain bit).

Its always commendable to see anyone making films of a decent caliber, of which this most certainly is, but its at the same time depressingly repetitive to see -time and time again- children attempting to play adult roles.

The youth of your lead actors has already been covered, but to reitterate: Children cannot be taken seriously.

Theres a point in the evolution of a director's talent, where he/she must ask themselves "Is there a chance that I could impress someone who matters, if i stopped thinking of film-making as something i do with my mates?".

My advice (and yes i'm aware this is far easier said than done) is to start to think a bit more professionally. It may be several years before this comes to fruition, but you should start trying to tap sources of decent local actors. Actors who are appropriate for your films, actors with talent.

Its clear you have talent, but to be blunt its really frustrating to see you blowing it on films about mediocre computer games. You could be making something amazing and getting yourself into film school.
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Xcession wrote:

Its clear you have talent, but to be blunt its really frustrating to see you blowing it on films about mediocre computer games.
I'd have to disagree; Splinter Cell is in no way mediocre!

And Ben , just wanted to say its really, really nice to see you take the time to properly respond to what people have commented! smile
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 6:03pm

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Xcession wrote:

On the vision and effort fronts, i rate this highly. There was even a brief shot where I uttered a "woah!" out loud (the rain bit).
Thanks, while everyone seems to love that bit, it sadly most likely won't be in the final film because we had to cut that scene short due to the fact that the guy in it almost got hypothermia from doing so.

Xcession wrote:

The youth of your lead actors has already been covered, but to reitterate: Children cannot be taken seriously.
Sadly, there's nothing I can really change here, and perhaps if you see the acting in the intro for this movie you'll think otherwise. Brian, the guy in the banner and poster images on the movie page, is actually a professional actor; and Chase, the guy playihng Fisher, goes to a school of the arts and is proficient as a stage actor. They're both under 20, true, but I think they're both great at acting.

Xcession wrote:

Theres a point in the evolution of a director's talent, where he/she must ask themselves "Is there a chance that I could impress someone who matters, if i stopped thinking of film-making as something i do with my mates?".
I think everyone in our group has thought this at some point, and we've all agreed we need to get at least one good film together before we seek further help/equipment/funding/etc. And while Splinter Cell may not be the perfect pi├Ęces de r├ęsistance, it is certainly incomparable to something, like, say...The Odyssey.

Xcession wrote:

Its clear you have talent, but to be blunt its really frustrating to see you blowing it on films about mediocre computer games. You could be making something amazing and getting yourself into film school.
My brother, friends, and I all make movies for fun; it's pretty much all you can do when you've got high school and other things to attend to. So as of now, while I know I'm not making the most serious thing ever, I really just want to finish it, make it look good, and have fun in doing so.

For our next few upcoming projects we'll be using other, real actors. (Probably around this summer or so), but nobody in my group would ever count out one of our 'mates'. They're like the LtMcMurphy to our Aculag! All-in-all, thakns for the comments Xcession, but as you said, many are easier said than done, so I'm not sure how swiftly your suggestions will take hold.

Thanks again, everyone.
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 6:16pm

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This was really good technically, aside from sound on certain scenes, Probably in the top 5 on this site in my opinion. Maybe not as stunning as say, http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22949, Its certainly had its charms. (kidding)

But yeah, I was highly Impressed With the visual quality and sound work on this. The editing was decent, but alot slower than i would have probably done myself. By far the best trailer i've seen recently on fxhome. Now all you have to do is just get it finished Bra
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 12:34am

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wow, this is cool.
I like the shot where he's in the rain, lightly being lit.

Sweet
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 5:23am

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Thanks all for the great comments. I guess Ben has fielded most all the comments, and probably will for any upcoming, so I guess I'll stay fairly silent. smile Sorry 'bout the sound quality, it is most definitely the compression. (as has been stated before) The whole film has been recorded with a $400 Seinheiser condenser mic, which produces extremely appealing sound quality, and in the thousands of times I've replayed the trailer while editing, it has had superb sound quality. Ben compressed it and uploaded it, though, so I don't know exactly why its so hazy, shifty, and low. Rest assured, it will not be that poor in the final. Just to clear that up.
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 8:55am

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Well I'm not a fan of SC but I enjoyed the tease and look forward to the movie, about how long will the finished product be?
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 9:34am

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While it's not for sure, but if you average how long the scenes we've got are, and how long we think the few others we need to shoot are, we're looking at between 20 to 30 minutes for the final film.
Posted: Mon, 20th Mar 2006, 5:50am

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Rating: +1

As far as trailers go, this was pretty amazing. The actual quality of the picture is fantastic, and most of the acting is in check. Just so you know, I NEVER give a trailer in the cinema more than a 3, that's just my scale. Oh, except if sollthar made it. However, this trailer did make me excited for the finished product.
Posted: Tue, 21st Mar 2006, 10:00am

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Nicely done. Reminds me more of The Matrix than Splinter Cell, though, possibly due to the OTT green grading? The only real problem I have with this is the age of the actors, which makes the whole thing seem a bit silly to my aged, jaded eyes. I'm sure that won't be a problem for viewers your own age, though.
Posted: Tue, 21st Mar 2006, 5:35pm

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Tarn wrote:

I'm sure that won't be a problem for viewers your own age, though.
Yeah, I'm probably pretty close to their age, and it didn't occur to me or bother me at all. smile
Posted: Mon, 27th Mar 2006, 4:01am

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wow atom, you suck, you should put up the other movie that has that handsome devil in it yelling at that little kid. this one sucks!boooo, muahahah!
Posted: Tue, 28th Mar 2006, 4:40am

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Please disregard the previous post, it was written by an absurdly dimwitted individual who only wishes to cause chaos. As you can see "Mock Adams" means Mock Atom.
Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2006, 10:23pm

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What stands out the most to me is the use of proper lighting and the very thematic green color filters. It really gives this teaser its own style. Some of the darker shots seem a little grainy to me(that could be because of the compression). You did a good job at breifly explaining the story with the audio segments used straight from the footage. Who needs a voice over..eh? Good teaser. Looking foreward to the finished piece. 4/5. Goodluck!
Posted: Thu, 30th Mar 2006, 12:26am

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Ben why the heck did I get an IM from you in the early AM this morning saying you had a new teaser trailer out for this and its just a link to this exact one. Even though I already commented in here awhile ago. Whats up with that
Posted: Thu, 30th Mar 2006, 1:20am

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That was my bad, sorry. I copied and pasted a list of people who'd ever PMed me about SC, and you were on the list, and I saw you hadn't voted on the movie yet, but forgot that you'd commented, so you were included in my list of IMs. Truly sorry for this mistake.
Posted: Thu, 30th Mar 2006, 2:56am

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sk8npirate wrote:

Ben why the heck did I get an IM from you in the early AM this morning saying you had a new teaser trailer out for this and its just a link to this exact one. Even though I already commented in here awhile ago. Whats up with that
He wanted even MORE love.

And we've given them so much...
Posted: Thu, 30th Mar 2006, 8:17pm

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Hehe oh well I was just excited i thought there was another new teaser out. And yeah I decided I don't want to vote on teasers...I voted anyway now go figure.
Posted: Fri, 31st Mar 2006, 12:05am

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A lot of the footage in the trailer had a very cinematic feel while others seemed a bit less.

The lower light shots seemed to have a lot of video noise in it, or grain as someone might call it. I'm not sure if you did this for effect, but in my oppinion it made the flow of the trailer suffer.

Another thing I'm picky on is the high contrast shots shot in the sunlight. The uneven patches of blown-out light in the background and a dark subject make it seem cheaper.

I really liked the rain in the one scene, can you explain what kind of methods you used to create this effect?

Overall, I am quite impressed with this and I share the same views as many of the positive commentors here. Can't wait to see the finished project.

-JL
Posted: Fri, 31st Mar 2006, 12:39am

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JoeyLawrence wrote:

A lot of the footage in the trailer had a very cinematic feel while others seemed a bit less.
Thanks for the comments, Joey, as well as for taking the time to watch this, I'm glad you got my message.

JoeyLawrence wrote:

The lower light shots seemed to have a lot of video noise in it, or grain as someone might call it. I'm not sure if you did this for effect, but in my oppinion it made the flow of the trailer suffer.
Most of this is unfortunately due to bad compression and/or achromatic grain picked up by the camera when filming. We tried to keep our framerate moderate, our f-stops low, and our dB to near none, but in some shots we had to crank up the grain a little to let enough light into the iris. Like I said, this is mostly due to compression, I can't see why anyone would intentionally add alot of grain. smile

JoeyLawrence wrote:

Another thing I'm picky on is the high contrast shots shot in the sunlight. The uneven patches of blown-out light in the background and a dark subject make it seem cheaper.
I can see why you'd say that. Much of the footage, including those shots, were regraded for the trailer, and alot of contrast was added to match it to other clips to flow better. I personally love harsh contrast, reminds me of reversal stock film; and often I go a little overboard. If its any consolation, that's from a flashback scene, so its meant to be a little noir-ish.

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I really liked the rain in the one scene, can you explain what kind of methods you used to create this effect?
As has been aforementioned, the rain scene most likely won't be in the final movie, though it has impressed so many people. wink To do this, we isolated an area in the alley, setup up the fill light at a 3/4 angle to the actor and a backlight at a 1/4 angle, then set up shot freehand form between the lights. I knew I wanted the camera framed closer, so to change perspective, I walked back a little and zoomed in by about 2.5x.This way, the actor was already well-lit and a good distance away from the electronic equipment. Next came the water.

For that, we pulled our hose all the way back to the alleyy and added a shower head to the end. We then setup up a ladder adjacent to the lights, almost opposite the actor, set a metal screen on top of the ladder (it hang over the actor's head, about 1 1/2 up) and sprayed the hose into the screen to disperse the water so it looked more natural.

Though you can't hear it in the trailer, for audio we boomed a shotgun mic from overhead, above the screen and all the water.

To end, I'm glad you liked the teaser and thanks for responding to my message with your post.
Posted: Sun, 9th Apr 2006, 12:12am

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Nice! Great job by the actors, especially considering their ages. Finally someone in a film here that looks like they could do something more terrorizing then kick you off the chess team.

Keep up the good work!
Posted: Wed, 12th Apr 2006, 4:50am

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CX3, while you're here, what do you think of the teaser, rating-wise?
Posted: Wed, 12th Apr 2006, 4:56am

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I think its badass myself. Hah, my fault I didnt even realize I hadnt posted on it. I'm still anxious to see the final man. Good Stuff.
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 5:29pm

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OK like damn! Who are all of those just fantastic actors you had in the movie, and how in the world did you come across them. DAMN! the intesnsity made me just all giddy inside lol. And who was that mad man in the rain shot. DAMN! lol, prepare yourself demon ben and andrew, when mr. Brian Hunt comes down this weekend you best be prepared to shot some damn Splinter Cell, and i mean some hard core ***t, because i look far to awesome in the rain to not get some more badass scenes on film. So prepare yourselves ben and andrew, prepare.
Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006, 3:13pm

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Do I hear a sequel? Maybe, but let's get the first one out there before we get too ahead of ourselves. wink
Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006, 3:26pm

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when is this going to be released? Is it still coming out?
Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006, 5:43pm

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Yeah, but we won't say when until we say it, if that makes any sense. It could be any day. It could come out with a second movie. Who knows? wink

PM me about it if you really wanna know the story behind what's goin' on with it.
Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2007, 7:57pm

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so is this movie still a go? i like this kidnapping scene, looks pretty professional and the audio is good too! it'd be great to see a good splinter cell movie come out =)
Posted: Thu, 5th Apr 2007, 5:00am

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The actual trailer is down, so that's, like you said, the rough version of the kidnapping scene.

As of now the movie is on permanent hiatus, at least until further notice.