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V for Vendetta

Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:22am

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Rating: +1

Whenever I see a pre-screening for a movie, the first thing I think about, not matter how good or bad the movie was, is telling FXHome about it. Tonight I was able to see V for Vendetta, probably number two on my "Top Five Movies I want To See This Year" list (Silent Hill is number one baby). I will now, as I always do, write a one line review in complete comedic fashion, then write a lengthier analysis.

This movie effing rules.

To elaborate:
I grew out of art movies a few years ago. I used to have the mind set that the only good movies were the ones where nothing happened. As I grew older, my tastes evolved into a craving for a mixture of said "good movies", but also ones that actually entertain me. A few movies that fall under this category are the LOTR Trilogy, War of the Worlds (suck my balls), Revenge of the Sith, and now I can easily place V for Vendetta among those.

There is very little about this movie I couldn't like. It is shot well, with a great mix of futuristic settings and modern day. This works quite well in conveying the film's message that the problem is closer than we think.

Anyway, going beyond the film's cinematography and directing, the plot really struck home with me. In the US, there are three kinds of people. Those who don't see any problem with our current leadership, those who think we are already under Nazi rule, and those who think things are getting bad, but don't like to get foamy about it, and would rather see movies that touch on the subject without being foamy themselves. I am the latter, and bought what this movie was selling, to a point anyway. That is another thing I love about this movie. It doesn't really say "hey, terrorists are great!". It sort of leaves that one up to the audience. But the main ideas of the film, about governments being afraid of their people, and about not submitting to obvious tyranny for saftey were there, and I agreed with them.

As for the film's action sequences, they are great. Something that I have been pissed about action movies as of late is that I have a hard time of telling exactly what is going on. V does some really nifty slow mo bits that gave me goosebumps. But this movie isn't really an action movie at all. What is there kicks ass, but it comes along just so often as to get my blood pumping, but not to detract from the film's message.

The only real complaint I have about this movie is the soundtrack. By no means is it bad, but by no means is it great. It was the last remaining piece of the puzzle to make this movie a classic.

This is an important movie, and even though I feel like a tool for saying it, I think everyone should see it, no matter your political views. It's the one movie I've seen that tackles the terrorism subject with an actual objective view that goes beyond "they are evil" and "they are freedom fighters", and opens the viewer's mind to a debate.

Oh and Hybrid, your performance was stellar
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 10:41am

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Can't wait for this one. The comic is fantastic, so I have high hopes for the movie, especially after your review. Great to hear it treads the ambiguous line and lets audiences form their own opinions - as you say, people of all political beliefs should see this kind of film, as it will encourage debate, which is never a bad thing.

Did you see Munich? That also trod a clever line of not simplifying things down to 'good' and 'evil'. Very, very clever writing. The only thing it did judge is that violence = bad, everything else it left to the viewer to intepret.

As for V For Vendetta - it's out this Friday in the UK, and I can't wait! I'll be back with my review.... smile
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 2:10pm

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I actually want this film to fail miserably at the box-office, because of a nasty rumour I heard that Stephen Hopkins will direct Watchmen if it does well. I can't even begin to imagine the horror...

Fingers crossed that V is good, though I'm dreading another overly verbose Wachowski screenplay...
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 2:12pm

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Alex Reeve wrote:

Fingers crossed that V is good, though I'm dreading another overly verbose Wachowski screenplay...
Depends if it's their words or Alan Moore's...
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 2:15pm

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Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 2:21pm

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Tarn wrote:

Alex Reeve wrote:

Fingers crossed that V is good, though I'm dreading another overly verbose Wachowski screenplay...
Depends if it's their words or Alan Moore's...
Indeed, V as a character in the comics was often quite verbose.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 2:22pm

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Tarn wrote:

Depends if it's their words or Alan Moore's...
I gather they've rewritten V's opening monologue using lots of words beginning with V. frown
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 5:48pm

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Waser wrote:

Oh and Hybrid, your performance was stellar
Was Hybrid-Halo in it?
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 6:15pm

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Redhawksrymmer wrote:

Waser wrote:

Oh and Hybrid, your performance was stellar
Was Hybrid-Halo in it?
*wonders if he should post the picture*
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 6:15pm

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Both Hybrid and er-no are in the movie, although to say their roles would be to give away parts of the story. Try to spot them when you go see it. smile
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 6:17pm

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Thanks Waser. I've watched movies based on your reviews.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 6:23pm

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Alex Reeve wrote:

Tarn wrote:

Depends if it's their words or Alan Moore's...
I gather they've rewritten V's opening monologue using lots of words beginning with V. frown
I'm pretty sure V's opening Monologue had loads of words starting with V anyway?
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 6:59pm

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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

I'm pretty sure V's opening Monologue had loads of words starting with V anyway?
I haven't read it for a long time, so I'm happy to be proven wrong.

I'm going to get a new copy and read it before I watch the movie. Give my feeble brain a little refresh.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:01pm

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I believe his opening words are actually from Macbeth. They're not lots of V words, anyway - although V words do feature several times. I do seem to recall a V-based monologue at some point in the comic, though...but it's been a long time, so I could be imagining that.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:05pm

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He says a lot of words beginning with 'V' at the beginning (in the comic)- after rescuing the girl and whilst standing on the rooftop.

Annoyingly, I have to wait til next week to see it. And drive 100 miles or so to the cinema with the person I've promised to see it with.

Ggrrrr.
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:17pm

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This was the excerpt I'd read. If it's changed, or no longer in the film, I'll be a happy bunny.

"This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vangquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.

The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."
I'll quit whining now till I've actually seen it. (and re-read the book)
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 7:59pm

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Definitely not in the book. While it brings back bad memories of The Architect from the Matrix, I actually rather like the second paragraph, particularly the final sentence which is quite witty.

The first paragraph is very daft, however. Hopefully Hugo Weaving's voice will be able to make it work.

Waser - any comments on his opening monologue?
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 8:09pm

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I'm going to see it Thursday and I hope my dreams of a totally badass good film are fulfilled.
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 7:27am

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I'm not sure if it'll happen, but I'll put this anyways...
>>>>>>>>SPOILER WARNING<<<<<<<<<








Just got back from this, and while it wasn't perfect- I disagreed with many of the values in it and some of the editing- I absolutely loved it. I think Weaving played V spectacularly, and I was disappointed at not being able to see his face.

At the end, there was alot I didn't understand. What did they mean by shwoing the little girl with the coke bottle glasses, or the TV producer? Did they not actually die, or was this a representation of "V being in everyone"?

Also, where where HYbrid and er-no? I was looking, but I miust've missed something, or I'm not privvy to the punchline on some in-joke here. wink






>>>>END SPOILER<<<<<
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 1:42pm

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All I remember is a bunch of Vs in his opening monologue, and I thought it was funny, but more in the way they wanted me to think
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 2:14pm

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Just coming back from seeing it and I'm very excited about it. I honestly think it's one of the best comicbook films I've seen and in general, one of the best films I've seen yet.

A very clever and intelligent script, brilliant acting, style and substance. It's going to be hard for anyone else to top this film this year.


10/10 stars
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 2:20pm

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There really wasn't anything I didn't like about this movie. As usual, when the action comes, the wachowski's influences shows through with brilliant scripting And style. Even if it wasn't directed by them, It was clear they had a very large influence on they're protoge
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 5:44pm

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ben3308 wrote:


At the end, there was alot I didn't understand. What did they mean by shwoing the little girl with the coke bottle glasses, or the TV producer? Did they not actually die, or was this a representation of "V being in everyone"?
I'm pretty sure it was just symbolic of everyone being "saved". Not exactly sure but something along those lines.
Great movie by the way, would've been better if there wasn't some jackass with restless leg syndrome sitting right behind me, but still amazing movie!
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 7:54pm

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Another thing that truly made this movie was the sound design. The booming sounds of V's footsteps and the clamoring of his knives was amazing, at least it was in the theatre I was in.
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 8:13pm

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Just got back from it and while many didn't like it the cinema (which I don't understand) I loved it.

and I was disappointed at not being able to see his face.
I disagree with you, taking of the mask would ruin some points about what's under the mask isn't me anymore. And since beautifull Portman became so wize she understood that and respected his wishes.

I'm to pumped up to give any good reviews other then "Everyone who respects and loves film in here should definitely see it, since it's a perfect piece of work!"
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 9:28pm

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im going to see it later today at 4:00 p.m. from what i am hearing from all of you, this is a must-see. i can't wait smile
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 9:43pm

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ben3308 wrote:

where where HYbrid and er-no? I was looking, but I miust've missed something, or I'm not privvy to the punchline on some in-joke here. wink
It's not an injoke at all, we're both genuinely in the movie. I'm one of the Norsefire troops (sargeant) whereas er-no was one of the stampeding V's. I'm quite convinced no one but me and er-no will ever actually be able to recognise which ones are us out of the crowd. smile

When it's released on DVD, I'll see if I can spot us. smile There are a few other films coming out which either myself or er-no may appear in the background of, if any are particuarly interesting/amusing I'll probably post something about it.

-Hybrid.
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I hate for working in you-know-what. Bastard.
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 10:26pm

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Hybrid-Halo wrote:


When it's released on DVD, I'll see if I can spot us. smile There are a few other films coming out which either myself or er-no may appear in the background of, if any are particuarly interesting/amusing I'll probably post something about it.

-Hybrid.
Heh, Hybrid throwing rocks at Clive Owen whilst sporting many face tattoo's and me shouting 'ALLAH AKBAR' at Clive Owen as a refugee are not to be missed!...
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Waser wrote:

I hate for working in you-know-what. Bastard.
Both me and er-no were due to work on 'that' again though it's been postponed. wink
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 11:06pm

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I would give the film 6.5 (maybe 7) out of 10.

V was far better than I expected which is pretty cool and hardly ever happens. There were some bits which just didn't seem to work and some scenes which were poorly constructed (almost like shots were missing).

The bits with er-no (think I spotted you and your tilted hat) and hybrid-halo were 10/10. wink
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Hybrid-Halo wrote:


Both me and er-no were due to work on 'that' again though it's been postponed. wink
I hate you so much. So very much.
Posted: Mon, 20th Mar 2006, 2:58am

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just got back from seeing it, and i must say


THAT WAS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i give it a 10/10 the best movie in my opinion.
Posted: Mon, 20th Mar 2006, 6:01am

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Just saw it and I must say that it was different than what I expected. When I say "different" I mean that in a good way. I thought it was going to have a bunch of pointless action slapped into it in order to keep the audience interested but it didn't. All the scenes that had action fit in with the story and it all looked great. I also liked the pacing of the film and the acting. The cinematography was also a thumbs up from me. 8 out of 10
Posted: Mon, 20th Mar 2006, 8:57am

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Not bad at all. Not as good as I had hoped either, and I wasn't too keen on some of the changes, particularly to Evey's character. John Hurt has been reduced to a caricature of a 'Fascist Leader', which was a bit of a shame. Natalie Portman's accent was fairly awful, too.

Aside from that it all came together rather nicely - Hugo Weaving was excellent (although an unknown voice would have fit the themes better), and most of the themes were retained from the comic, although much of the subtlety and ambiguity that I remember was thrown out.

Best part of the entire film, though, was Stephen Rea as the detective. He was fantastic in every scene, and his journey was handled superbly and mainly without words.

Good stuff, and a promising return to not-crap for the Wachowskis.

Alex Reeve wrote:

Tarn wrote:

Depends if it's their words or Alan Moore's...
I gather they've rewritten V's opening monologue using lots of words beginning with V. frown
His opening dialogue is the same as the comic, in fact. It's only later, on the rooftop, that he has his 'V' monologue, and I actually quite liked it. It's very over the top, very theatrical and very in character. Crucially, the whole thing is done with a mischievous humour.
Posted: Mon, 20th Mar 2006, 11:04pm

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starfan wrote:




THAT WAS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, how do you know the "that" that Waser, HH, and Er-no are talking about?
Posted: Mon, 20th Mar 2006, 11:29pm

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many Bothan spies died for that information
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hehehe
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when i mean by "that" i mean v for vendetta is SO COOL!!!!!!! razz
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i know, i was only kidding, but we all know what you realy mean.........??? is everyone confused? i am.
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All I know is that I just got back from seeing the movie again, and it was even better. Silent Hill officially has competition for my end-of-year best movie.
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this movie was probebly the best ive seen this year. at least in my top 3. very well done. and the most important part was the story. even though you never saw his face hugo weaving did an exellent performance and u could see his performance come out of the costume. natlie portman did an also fantastic job and i would probebly have to say one of the best performances ive seen her in. actually the whole cast was magnificent in there characters. really in depth.
everyone needs to see it!!!
9/10 for me.
Posted: Wed, 22nd Mar 2006, 7:25pm

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V for Vendetta is pretty much spectacular. Holy cats.

-Pikl
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I thought it was really good. The fight scene at the end was awesome.
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OK guys, I just arrived from the cinema. It opened here yesterday, but anyway I saw it today.. tard And I thought this was awsome! I mean the story was excelent! The acting was superb! And the overall was way over what I expected it to. This is definitly one of the best films this year, and I'll give it a 8\10. It was just... different. Very catching (thanks to the brilliant acting. Espesially when Portman does the astma-breathing thing combined with serval emotions.) and very surprising. I think it presented the whole theme in a very belivable way, and of course the visuals were stunning! wink The end fight was awsome. This movie had so many wonderfull aspects, and so I'm just gonna say to you who've not seen this film yet: SEE IT!

Hybrid and Er-no: Hehe, I sat in the cinema with my friends and bragged about that some guys over at fxhome should be in here somewhere... Unfortuneatly I have absolutely no clue how any of you look like, and so I just kept saying when there was anyone in about your age "that could be one of those guys"..! wink hehe

But I found this movie very entertaining, very catching both emotional and visual, and the acting was absolutely fantastic!

Oeyvind
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This movie was very good.....although I thought that the first time she kisses him was halairious!!!
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Yeah.. funniest thing ive seen in years....





..... neutral
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Welll.... I went to go see this movie last night, and I had the hardest time getting into the movie.....

So anyways, I'm 16 and your suppose to be 17 to see the movie without some one 21 or older, but in the past I've never had any problems getting into an R rated movie. So we tried to get tickets to the 8:30 showing at my local theater and so after waiting like 10 minutes in line I give the person my money and show her my ID and everything and she's all like, "Do you have any ID with your DOB on it?" But my ID didn't so I said, no but my birthday was a couple of weeks ago (which it wasn't) and she wouldn't buy it anyways because she said I'd have to have ID, and bla bla bla bla bla. So after trying to get my tickets for like 5 minutes, I realized that this woman was not going to give him, so I got pissed off and I went and ate at Subways. Then we went to another nearby theater, except the next showing was at 9:55, and so we had my friend by the tickets so we could avoid that whole thing. So anyways, we go into the movie and we give the guy the ticket, he rips it, he's about to hand it back then he looks at me and says, "Do you have ID?" Now I'm thinking, Jesus Christ! I just want to go see the freaking movie, is it really that big of a deal? Its not like I'm 10 years old, I'm pretty sure the theater doesn't have to parent me on wether or not I should see the movie, thats more of the parents job, don't you think? And so anyways, I show him my ID then I explained to him how my school didn't give out ID's with DOB on them, so he thought about it for like a minute and then he let me in. Yay! And after all that trouble, I'd have to say the movie did more than make up for it.

I've never read the comic book, but I sort of had a good idea of what it would be about going into the movie, but at the same time I wasn't completely sure what to expect. So when I came out of the theater, I was amazed because mainly I just wasn't sure what to expect and so I guess I was just expecting it to be ok, but it surpassed that expectation! lol
Anyways, my favorite scene was that fight scene with V and that old white guy where everything is all in slow motion and the blood is just splurting everywhere. It was really well shot, and the swishing of the knives was well done. Just everything about that scene was good.

And really there wasn't one thing I'd change with that movie other than the one guy's nose. Did anyone else think that British Television dude who did the parody and got arrested for it have a nose that was 10x worse than Owen Wilsons? It just kept bugging me! lol But w/e.

10/10
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Gnome326 wrote:

And really there wasn't one thing I'd change with that movie other than the one guy's nose. Did anyone else think that British Television dude who did the parody and got arrested for it have a nose that was 10x worse than Owen Wilsons? It just kept bugging me! lol
Sorry, you're not allowed to criticise Stephen Fry.
Posted: Fri, 31st Mar 2006, 5:21pm

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ben3308 wrote:

>>>>>>>>SPOILER WARNING<<<<<<<<<] At the end, there was alot I didn't understand. What did they mean by shwoing the little girl with the coke bottle glasses, or the TV producer? Did they not actually die, or was this a representation of "V being in everyone"?
>>>>END SPOILER<<<<<
The idea was, that no one took action... the million os people outside the great hall were infact mostly dead, the idea was that ALL the people who died all the people who took a stand and/or all the people who wernt afraid to stand up in what they belived in could never die... figrativly...

Physicaly no they wernt there it was a simbol... it was clever and frankly im only upset they didnt take it further....
Posted: Fri, 31st Mar 2006, 5:28pm

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Oh and some oen posted before the "V Opening monologe"

In its entirity it is:

Voilà!
In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified.

However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.

The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.

Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
This is a well writen and lovely monologue, I heard some people say they didnt like it because "it made no since"...

Anyone who reads this and doesn’t understand it should:

a) Go back to school, my year 7 English class covered ALL the words and meanings

b) Get a thesaurus; this speech is too good to pass by.

Very good...

I gave this movie an 8.5/10

I never give a 10, a 9 is the highest I have ever given a movie (Fight Club, American Beauty, The Shawshank Redemption )
Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2006, 5:33pm

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Rating: +1

i found this video of them preparing for the final fight scene. its cool even though its only the rough version.

ENJOY

btw v for vendetta is my new favorite movie biggrin
Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2006, 5:49pm

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starfan wrote:

i found this video of them preparing for the final fight scene. its cool even though its only the rough version.

ENJOY

btw v for vendetta is my new favorite movie biggrin
Wow, nice find, starfan! That was awsome! I just learned how to easily create the effect of a knife spinning in slowmotion through the air...! Very cool!

Oeyvind
Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2006, 6:00pm

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hey thx oeyvind smile

there are other versions too, some including material not used in the final one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPbBtMHdOEE&search=v%20for%20vendetta version 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgMA8dmPj7Y&search=v%20for%20vendetta version 2

maybe you guys can get some ideas. im sure i goty some out of it. enjoy smile
Posted: Sun, 2nd Apr 2006, 9:44am

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Im about to do see this AGAIN, (2nd time)

Are there any last minuet questions on things you wanted checked or imstakes or anything?
Posted: Sun, 2nd Apr 2006, 2:18pm

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Too late!

Oh even better the 2nd time smile
Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006, 4:37am

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Hey All

Just a note on the V for Vendetta DVD (releasing this tuesday)..

If you are into bonus features.. i DEFINATELY suggest the 2 disc special edition.

I just went through the standard 1 disc version tonight and the special feature on the disc is a 15 minute featurette on the making of, but gives you very little insight to anything. A major dissapointment for anyone who is into special features (like me).

-MAGIC
Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006, 6:08am

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The DVD is out? This has been very poorly advertised/publicized then. I also didn't know Miami Vice was out. Hmmm.
Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006, 6:12am

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Weird, every other commercial I've seen was about V and Vice.
Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006, 6:21am

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Can't wait to pick this up on DVD, as it is still the best movie that has come out this year (in my humble opinion)
Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006, 6:49am

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I wanted to see it at the movies but never got round to it but I will definately get the 2 disc when it comes out (August 9th here)