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The Night preset

Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 4:00pm

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Frank Grimes

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Hmmm. tard
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 5:46pm

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ehh...What?
Posted: Tue, 14th Mar 2006, 8:57pm

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Er, this?

No, it's not just pure black. smile
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 5:31pm

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shogun wrote:

Hmmm. tard
Nice topic... crazy You really think the preset would have been accepted by the FXhome team if it was just pure black...? It looks pure black when comparing to the "before" image, it could also be the monitor you're using... It looks more black on some monitors than others.. Try to apply the filter to a random shot, and play it fullscreen...you'd be surpriced. wink It's very dark, yes, but when you use it for example fullscreen in a dark room, it really looks like night, and gives a very catching feel. You should try it out...

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Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 10:18pm

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shogun wrote:

Hmmm. tard

Oeyvind wrote:

Try to apply the filter to a random shot, and play it fullscreen...you'd be surpriced. It's very dark, yes, but when you use it for example fullscreen in a dark room, it really looks like night...
If you still find this to be too dark for your purposes, you are not bound to using the preset as it is. The work of creating the preset has been done, yes, but you are still free to follow your own creative intuitions, and change or add a few attributes until you are completely satisfied with the result, and I am sure Oeyvind would understand. Try changing the "Lightness HLS" attribute to 0.93, and see if it is more to your liking.

Oeyvind: One thing I have noticed upon looking at this preset closely is that the preset has a saturation added to it, but the value is at 0, which means it is effectively doing nothing. I just thought I would make this apparent incase this was perhaps a mistake, and the end result of your preset is not what you intended. I wouldn't want you to miss out on an opportunity to correct this.

Have a great day.
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Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 12:54am

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Just to correct you there Wizard, the default saturation value is actually 1, so having it at 1 would mean the grade has no effect. Having it set at 0 means the image has been desaturated.

I've tried it on a few clips now and I think it is a good filter. I posted this topic without trying it first and I apologise, I was just kidding around.
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 1:06am

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shogun wrote:

the default saturation value is actually 1, so having it at 1 would mean the grade has no effect. Having it set at 0 means the image has been desaturated.
Ah yes, you are correct, thank you for pointing that out. Being in the rush that I have been in recently, I over looked the fact that all of the grading options default to a value which does in fact affect the footage when first applied. I looked at the zero value and assumed it was not changed, silly me. In that case, Oeyvind, don't worry about a thing. We all have our moments of insularity.

This was one of mine.
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Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 8:48am

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Thanx for your comments guys. Actually if you want to make the filter abit brighter I would suggest sliding the gamma abit to the left. I was actually very happy about this filter, but I see it might have turned out too dark.. tard So you can try change the different sliders, as I would suggest the gamma.

shogun wrote:

I've tried it on a few clips now and I think it is a good filter. I posted this topic without trying it first and I apologise, I was just kidding around.
Totally OK, don't worry about a thing. wink I understand it looks dumb when looking at the "before" \ "after" stuff, it maybe looks black... wink

But about the darkness, I still think it's kind of cool, even though it's so dark that you can't see much. Because if you see night scenes in movies, where it's supposed to look dark, it will look dark. I don't know... razz But I just though I'd make one night preset that looked more realistic than funky. lol
If you look at this pic:


And then I apply the preset:


At first eyecast it looks like it's totally black, but that's because you have all the bright internett-windows and stuff opened. Like said, in fullscreen I think this might do quite effective! wink Sorry about all this, I just thought I'd show you a real comparing... Never mind..

Oeyvind