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Skitzo the Rabbit

Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 12:43pm

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The talented crew behind the Unwritten Rule Trilogy are back with an altogether different offering. Skitzo The Rabbit is a disturbing piece of horror puppetry and animation that recalls early expressionist German filmmaking with bold, noirish cinematography and character design. Inspired by the Judderman Metz commercials and Tim Burton’s stop motion films, Skitzo is a memorable and haunting fairy tale.

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Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006, 12:58pm

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I would just like to say that this is completely Damien's film. He made all the sets and puppets, did the "old film" effects and editing, and the characters are all his. All I did was write and voice the poem and do some filming, along with touch ups using CompositeLab, while Michael helped out with set building and filming.

Well done Damien! smile
Posted: Thu, 16th Mar 2006, 1:49am

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wow, what an interesting ending, lol, that was creative, but the voice over needed to be turned up a little ( the music over powered it allot)

I liked it over all, but a few things needed to be fixed

4/5
Posted: Thu, 16th Mar 2006, 1:51am

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Glad you liked it smile Please bear in mind that any noticable problems in audio and visual quality are actually purposeful, to give the film an even more aged feel. Maybe we over did it, dunno smile
Posted: Thu, 16th Mar 2006, 3:34pm

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Misses on 5 stars from me because of a the sound and some visual details (DEINTERLACE YOUR FOOTAGE COMPLETELY) smile

This reminded me of Burtons "Vincent", which I find brilliant. Nice animation style, cool creepy visual style, nicely chosen music and a poem... I could hardly understand. sad

The voiceover from the poetry was very bad. I could hardly understand what he said because the voice wasn't loug enough or in good enough compression quality (while the rest of the audio was though).


If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have hesitated to give it a 5 - as it is, I'm even struggling at giving it a 4. sad
Posted: Thu, 16th Mar 2006, 4:53pm

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Cool stuff, though I agree about audio. The voice is too young; I think it would benefit immensely if you had an old, grizzled voice narrating. Drag an OAP off the street. Alternatively, Morgan Freeman wink
Posted: Thu, 16th Mar 2006, 10:41pm

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I loved it! I understood that the audio was supposed to be "bad", and it sounded very authentic. I love the style of the film. It makes me want to go and make a movie with marionettes now.
Very well done.
Posted: Fri, 17th Mar 2006, 8:31am

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Quite enjoyable, if it was Damien's first puppet film I would call it a success, however it did not deliver quite as well as it could have.

First off music should never over power the vocals, this makes the film feel more professional. It would have helped if you would slow down and saver the poem, relish what is said. And work on syncing the audio with the visual better when the reader says that the trap as got Skitzo that trap needs to snap! And not after it is said, as it is beginning to be said. It gives it a lot more power.

I did not like the MSPaint Bunnies, I can dig that stuff in stupid funny movies, but it does not work as well in this style.

Sets were good, liked them, can't recall anything bad about them.

Finally the puppet acting needs to be worked on, get those legs moving and arms going. The puppet master should rehearse these basic things so the puppets can deliver on screen. The tree uprooting needed a lot of work, made Skitzo look weaker then he should have mostly because of an ineffective delivery. And sadly the puppets did not seem quite as nice as the sets. Remember ever character should have a different silloett (sorry I can’t figure out how to spell it, even with spell checker), makes them stand out better on screen.
Posted: Fri, 17th Mar 2006, 10:28am

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lo all,

please allow me to clairfy some things. The quality of the movie, in whatever form, be it audio, visuals, puppet movements, set building, whatever... are all intended to be the quality they are, because this is supposed to be a very old film, from a time when quality was terrible, puppetry looked bad and sets were clearly made out of papermache.

The fact that everybody is bringing these things up as cons of the film, just goes to show how successful we've been in reproducing the problems of the past... even if you guys don't realise it smile

So cheers smile
Posted: Fri, 17th Mar 2006, 11:24am

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Rating: +1

That is like saying "If you think my film is crap then we rule, because it's supposed to be crap."

It's possible to achieve an "old film" look and feel, without being "bad" - even if you guys don't realise it. smile
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 6:28am

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Stepladder wrote:

The fact that everybody is bringing these things up as cons of the film, just goes to show how successful we've been in reproducing the problems of the past... even if you guys don't realise it smile
Go watch Stage Fright and tell me that again. Also check out Tim Tom

Stage fright uses 'old style' and Tim Tom is 'old style' but the animation holds up. The short film clips from Stage Fright look much older then your film, and the animation is much better. You are just brushing off constructive criticism and are really saying old is bad, and because we are not good enough we'll make something bad and say were going for the old feel. Also never, use an MSPaint style along side old style, it just does not work.
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 11:09am

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I take all your points seriously, I know there are problems scattered throughout. It was originally intended as an intro video to a game that we were working on for university, so it didn't need to be perfect. And in all honesty, I just didn't have a good microphone.

But it seems no-one has anything good to say about the film, which really disappoints me, considering the amount of effort and time it took to make the models and the sets. And considering this film got an honourable mention by the FXhome staff, there must something good about it. But all you guys are doing is focusing on the negative, which I obviously already know about.

How about telling me what you liked about it?
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 11:37am

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But it seems no-one has anything good to say about the film, which really disappoints me, considering the amount of effort and time it took to make the models and the sets.
Read my post again. smile

Misses on 5 stars from me because of the sound and some visual details (DEINTERLACE YOUR FOOTAGE COMPLETELY)

This reminded me of Burtons "Vincent", which I find brilliant. Nice animation style, cool creepy visual style, nicely chosen music and a poem... I could hardly understand.
As I said, it misses 5 stars only because of the audio. If it wasn't for the audio, this would be one of my favorite films in the cinema. So I mentioned what's bad about it, and whats bad about it, is the audio - old film whatever...

I'm mentioning it even more because you COULD have had something brilliant and ended up with something okay, which is a shame - ESPECIALLY considered there was a lot of work going into it.


It was originally intended as an intro video to a game that we were working on for university, so it didn't need to be perfect.
I have no idea where you get the image from certain things don't need to be perfect or good... And if you actually think something doesn't need to be good, then don't be offended when people actually don't like it as much.

If you want people to like your work and give good comments about it, make something GOOD and stop giving excuses. wink
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 11:54am

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i really really really liked this, I didn't like the animated parts, but the puppetry was awesome, i loved the music too absolutely great, and the poem was apt for the story. While sound issues have been mentioned and the deinterlacing, i think this was great, if this was a feature i could quite happily watch it and enjoy. Heh it's the hulk in rabbit form, I'd like to see more of this definitely, but ditch the animation it seems odd and out of place with the rest of the movie.
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 7:17pm

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[quote="Sollthar"]
If you want people to like your work and give good comments about it, make something GOOD and stop giving excuses. wink
lol I'm just shocked you're taking it so seriously. It's just a video we did for a uni project. We got a first for it, and thought people on fxhome might enjoy it. It's not perfect by any means, I was just hoping people would appreciate it for what it is.

As far as your other comments go, you're right, you have said some nice things that we appreciate smile

I thought I had deinterlaced the footage completely... any weird pixelation that occurs is probably just down to the camera, we've been having bad problems with it for a while, when video is played back or captured to the computer.

Bottom line, we know it isn't perfect, we know there are issues with sound, etc. But it's as good as we wanted it to be. Had we been working on a film with the intention of releasing it for viewing in the first place, we would have spent more time and effort on it, like we did with our previous titles.
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 9:45pm

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I did say good things, I may have come off a bit negative but I tend to put more work into constructive criticize when I like the film I see but see potential for improvement. I did say it was enjoyable, and the music was good, it was just to loud.

I also said that I did not have anything bad to say about the sets, I'm wondering how that is negative.

I just got a bit angry when you seemed to brush aside the help I and other were trying to give you.

I really did enjoy it, but I would love to see you make another one in the future that is improved. Maybe I'm just greedy.
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 9:58pm

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Apologies if I came off as ungrateful for everyone's praises, it just felt like people were saying more about the negative aspects of the film than the positive, but I suppose the negative is always easier to spot smile
Posted: Sat, 18th Mar 2006, 11:26pm

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I enjoy watching puppet films, whether they are stop motion or marionettes, and when I see them I usual write detailed a critique in hopes that the maker and other viewers will be inspired to go out and make even better films. But I guess my tone did not really reflect this feeling I have very well.
Posted: Sun, 19th Mar 2006, 10:25pm

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Heh, I'm not taking it all serious, hence the wink ...

Well, anyways. You know my opinion. smile