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Oblivion : This game will destroy your life.

Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 10:49am

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This is prorably the most in depth rpg i have played... and i have played pretty much all the "sword and sheild" RPGs on the PC and EVERY MMORPG that is in existance... yes even the shit ones.

This game will destroy your life... i highly recomend it.
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 11:04am

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I bought it the day before yesterday and it totally rocks! You can do EVERYTHING!
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 11:05am

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Redhawksrymmer wrote:

I bought it the day before yesterday and it totally rocks! You can do EVERYTHING!
I KNOW! omg its sooo freaking awesome!
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 11:19am

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Been playing since thursday night here, as have a fair few others that frequent the chat room.
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It's astounding stuff. Being a veteran of Morrowind, I was very much looking forward to this, but it has really surprised me with just how incredible it is. The ambition and scope of the game is mind-boggling, and the fact that they seem to have pulled it off at all is frankly astonishing.

It's a beautiful achievement. I haven't quite got my head around how good it is yet.

Here's a few pics from my experience: http://joshuadavies.com/gallery/Oblivion

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Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 2:18pm

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The game itself is fantastic except for one thing (which is mostly my fault): it kills my 6600gt. By default the game sets the settings to Ultra Low, yet on my friend's 7800GT it sets it to Ultra High. I toyed with the settings and managed to get it to 1280x1024 with grass and tree and object distance painfully low (it pops up about 2 meters in front of me as I walk, except for actors) and no bloom or HDR, no canopy or grass shadows, and no AA. At these settings, it just looks ok, and nowhere near as good as what FEAR, HL2, or Quake 4 look like on my machine.

Ignoring this though, the huge scale of it and the fact that you can do almost anything is quite amazing.
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 2:29pm

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It is indeed a damned demanding game, tech-wise. My 7800GT just about handles it - interiors are pretty much perfect but exteriors can have very wobbly framerates, particularly in combat. I do, however, have everything on super maximum settings, so it's probably my fault. razz In this case I'd rather have full prettyness than full framerate.
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 2:44pm

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Can someone send me a link to where you can buy it from? Ive heard of eldar scrolls IV - oblivion
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 2:54pm

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Err. Best Buy? EBGames? Amazon? You know, where you buy games normally?
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 3:23pm

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I got it on Xbox 360 and it runs perfectly smooth!
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 3:32pm

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One thing I adore in Oblivion is the combat. The better I get at it, the more fun it seems. So many tactical options! AI seems decent, too - battles always play out differently.

I just had a major battle in the sewers, had 1 guy with me as backup and fighting 3 enemies with lots of armour and nasty weapons. Was all about finding the right strategy, getting the right timing, using spells at the right points, careful aim etc. I even managed to get an advantage to begin with by poisoning an arrow and firing it off before being spotted. Brilliant!
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I've enjoyed the game a lot (appart from the graphical requirements) but I'm still not totally convinced it'll keep me going as a casual gamer.

The way the world is alive is fantastic - probably the best thing about the game (from what I've seen so far). The towns are pretty interesting to walk around and being able to interact with so many elements is exactly what this kinda game should be like (although thats not really new as Morrowind was the same).

I've experienced several cases of AI characters randomly coming back to life which destroyed the illusion for me a bit. These is also some very poor AI when it comes to stealing things - I've stolen LOADS of stuff just be standing slightly behind furniture but then grabbing items which are directly infront of the AI characters. Another option is to put the physics engine to use by jumping up on the shop desks and knocking expensive items on the floor and then kicking them in to a corner so you can pick them up without the AI seeing - rather silly if you ask me.

The horses are also pretty terrible which is a shame - badly animated and a bit crappy to control (hate how they instantly stop).

I've found the combat to be rather too simple and not that engaging - not really getting the blood pumping so far but I expect it'll get better as i progress. The random attacks from characters/animals as you walk around the landscape can be annoying as well as they seem to just be stuck in to break up the boredom.

Although the graphics range from good to great, they really don't justify the huge GPU power they need. My ATI X850, Athlon 64 4100+ with 2GB RAM is hardly a slow system but I'm having to run at a fairly low resolution (sickening on my nice screen) to get a good frame rate and sometimes its only just playable when there are many characters on the screen (we're talking sub 15fps). To have any hope of running this at 1920x1200 I would probably need 2 7900GTX cards in SLi which is rather OTT.

Still, will keep going with Oblivion as I'm enjoying the story (if not the dialogue).
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Very big question.

I'm revising for AS levels. Should I buy this to play "in between" these revision sessions, or will I end up getting straight Es biggrin
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 5:49pm

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TommyB wrote:

Very big question.

I'm revising for AS levels. Should I buy this to play "in between" these revision sessions, or will I end up getting straight Es biggrin
Either un-install now, or just save your self the time and start work at Macdonalds now...

coz no one will pass anything if they are playing this...


My computer has a ATI Radion 9800 Pro with 5 gigs of Ram and this game runs without a flaw perfect (better than X360, 360 is good... but its still just a consol)
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 5:58pm

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My computer has a ATI Radion 9800 Pro with 5 gigs of Ram and this game runs without a flaw perfect (better than X360, 360 is good... but its still just a consol)
Erm, well it may run on your 9800 Pro but it'll have to be in rather low detail mode AND low res with most of the advanced graphical features switched off or you are able to live with TERRIBLE frame rates of about 5fps. It can't look anywhere near as good as it does on an Xbox 360 with a HD TV (or even on a normal TV).

The 9800 Pro is a pretty old and slow GPU by todays standards - its considered totally bottom spec for Oblivion. The Xbox 360 has a VASTLY more powerful 3D GPU than a 9800 Pro (over 5 times faster if I remember, could be more) and can do a ton of advanced things which are not even possible on the 9800 (like HDR) - the same can be said of more modern PC GPUs like ATI X800 (even these can't do HDR) upwards and GF6 upwards.

There are reports from many people already running GF6 and X800s not getting great performance from Oblivion and these cards are many times faster than a 9800 Pro.

Something seems wrong with your statement - did you quote the wrong card or use very low detail/resolution?

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Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 6:01pm

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I'm sceptical about that flawless remark. Let's see a screenshot with an fps count.
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 6:10pm

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If every option was at minimum, with all the advanced effects switched off (not that the 9800 will even give you the option to do some of them) and the resolution was fairly low I expect it could run smoothly - but it would hardly compare to an Xbox 360. It would probably end up looking like a slightly nicer version of Morrowind rather than the stunning graphical feast it is on the Xbox 360 and high spec PC GPUs.
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SyroVision wrote:

My computer has a ATI Radion 9800 Pro with 5 gigs of Ram and this game runs without a flaw perfect (better than X360, 360 is good... but its still just a consol)
How did you get 5 GB of RAM into a PC?
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 7:32pm

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There are motherboards which support more than 4GB.
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 7:59pm

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i have almost played it almost 24 hours now and havent seen all the cities yet. this game is so great and really beautiful.

i went to sleep in the game and when i woke up i became a vampire! haha its awesome! btw have you guys bought a house yet ?
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 8:17pm

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Before I splash out the cash, how well will it run on:

7800GTX 256MB
2x512mb Ram
Athlon 64 3500+ 90nM
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 8:18pm

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It should run well on that system. Its worth considering a 7900GT which should be cheaper than the 7800GTX and is actually faster at some stuff.
Posted: Sun, 26th Mar 2006, 8:20pm

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What can I say? Where to begin?

The begining, yes, but which begining?... yes yes I am begining to gibber, but you see I have an excuse. I have been playing TES Oblivion since Thursday, when it became available in the UK. My mind is consatntly thinking of it, I even dream of it. Sad, yes. However it is completely captivating.

Both Tarn and I were awaiting out Collectors Editions to arrive at our respective homes, constantly peering out of the window looking for the postman. Nerd -r- us. From the moment it landed on my floor til right now, there has been little other thoughts. What of the actualy game?

The game itself is both rather large, yet not very big at the same time. You can spend hours out in the wilderness exploring the wilds, finding dungeons exploring them. Or perhaps you'll hunt animals ( not really that many, to be honest ) or picking any of the hundreds of ingredients for potions. Perhaps you will try and join one of the guilds, the fighters, mage or thieves guilds are all relativly easy to find. Whats that you say? What of the main quest? Well that is very well done, you are drawn into the game from the outset and carefully guided along the main quest.

The most remarkable thing I've noticed is that all of the game events or quests are very transparent to your game play. What this means is you not no time do you feel you are being pushed to do something, the option to do it or something else is always there. I've played about 10 hours so far, and have yet to get past the 'third' stage of the main plot, getting into the Mages Guild is my current goal, followed closely by getting my alchemy up.

The game looks amazing. Its that simple. There are a large number of people who have a few graphics problems for some reason. Mine is that at certain distances the terrain doesn't load, and the trees float. Some people can't even get it to install. I have a X800 (new bios to x850 and OC'd ) and I get a pretty good game, only occasionaly does it stutter.

Do you like RPGs or even thought about trying them? If so, get this now. If you do, your life and probaly your soul will be gone...

Have fun..
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Nope pretty much everythign is on man... only get frame rate loss when it says "Loading Area..."

when im in the wilderness.

I forgot to say "Crossfirered" its a dual card so 2 working as 1.

*edit spelling*
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In other news this is my main:

Hes a level 9 wizard type his custom class is called "Ol'Wiseman" LOL



The robes, ring and bow were all found/looted in dungeons/mission dungeons. The arrows and shoes were stolen. heheh

Man i love this game. lol
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One thing I loved about Morrowind was its ability to shift genres and tone, and I'm glad to see this trait has carried over to Oblivion.

So far I've had spy thriller, comedy, action adventure, horror...all blended into a single universe. Very clever game design. Compare it to, say, Doom3, which is so unrelentingly monotone. It's great that there are some games out there like Oblivion that aren't afraid to meld genres together.
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I say lets hear it for consoles! You all havnt seen nothing until you see this game running in full HD on a 11 by 9 foot screen running at a perfect frame rate (with the occasional slowness of a lot of particles or entities) it is sweet. this game gives me an eyegasm each time i boot it up on my freinds system (i dont have a 360 yet waiting for the price to drop)

But i agree with all of you, this game is awsome and was worth the wait, now about your radeon 9800 pro. i use to have one (until it burnt up) and my new nvidia 6600 gt runs a whole lot better than it did, and everyone says that the 6600 gt cant play oblivion that well then the 9800 probly doesnt come near perfect as you said it does, but hey i could be complelty wrong. but in the end the game still is sweet no matter what.
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It's One of the only Games That readily Admits in it's title what your Social life will be if you play it.
Posted: Mon, 27th Mar 2006, 8:39am

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Erm, the 9800 Pro doesn't even support Crossfire - are you just messing with us or do you have some beast of a card installed and not really an 9800 Pro at all? Crossfire is only ATi X800 upwards - http://www.ati.com/technology/crossfire/faq.html

Not only can you not run 2 of these cards in Crossfire mode but it would still be pretty slow even if you could compared to an Xbox360 or modern PC GPU. Even 2 x 9800 Pro cards would not have a chance of running the game with everything on (as the 9800 Pro doesn't even support some of the features).

When you say you're running "man" do you mean manual as you've set everything to very low?

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/02/vga_charts_viii/page18.html

A couple of 9800 Pro cards in Crossfire (an impossible combination as already stated) would get a score of maybe 1550 max on that chart, a single one would be a bit slower than the bottom card on that list - the Nvidia Geforce 5900. So the 9800 Pro would rate around 800.

Look higher up the list and you can see the 6600GT (3472) cards which are running Oblivion far from perfectly and Tarns 7800GT (6785) which although very powerful still suffers slow down (although I'm sure he has nearly everything set to max).

If cards which are well over 8 times faster than yours are not able to run the game perfectly I'm not sure how you say you can. My own X850 card which would get a score somewhere in the 5000s has a struggle with the game and I have to run at both lower resolution and quality than I would like.
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Indeed, my 7800GT really struggles when out in the wilderness. In towns and interiors it's silky smooth, but around forested areas it's pretty jerktastic. I do have every single setting set to maximum, though (other than AA, which doesn't work with HDR on PC).

Still, if Syro has some magical tips for improving performance I'd love to hear 'em! smile
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Ridiculous amounts of RAM will certainly aid texture loading speeds, but since your cards physically lack a GPU capable of supporting HDR, you simply cannot be seeing exactly what other users (with HDR supporting cards) are, regardless of your framerates. We're therefore not comparing like with like.

Would be great to see some screenies from you, if simply to demonstrate the kind of graphics you're seeing.

I'm guessing the game has graceful degredation of the high-end graphics features - such as simulated bloom, rather than real bloom etc.
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I don't think I can actually see bloom, which is odd since HDR in Lost Coast worked fine.
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I tested it out on my ATI 9600XT machine (which is nearly as fast as a 9800 Pro) and it was barely playable even with everything turned down pretty low and nice bits switched off.

If I went down to minimum everything it was pretty playable but it looked more like Morrowind than Oblivion.

Still, it would be fairly easy to pump out a pretty impressive screen shot (everything other than HDR) at a decent resolution, but in game it would run at about 1fps if you were lucky.
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Yeah, it's remarkable how much it looks like Morrowind when at low settings. smile

pooky wrote:

I don't think I can actually see bloom, which is odd since HDR in Lost Coast worked fine.
Any card should be able to do the simple bloom effects. HDR is card-specific, however. Bethesda have done a differenet HDR implementation to Valve, which is why some cards that can handle Lost Coast fine can't do Oblivion. Shame, really.

Oblivion's makes much better use of the 'fake exposure' thing that Lost Coast also does. In Oblivion it's almost instantaneous so you barely notice it happening - just like with your real eye. In Lost Coast it's always so slow, so you always notice the brightness changing when you go from a light to dark area.

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I really really want this game, im def going to purchase this bad boy at the end of the month, I was a huge fan of morrowind, i loved it so much i bought the xbox and pc version, i just hope this one is as good or better, from the sound of it, its a huge success.
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If you liked Morrowind, you will like Oblivion. Simple as that, really. At its most basic level, it's Morrowind with just about everything improved.
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You can crossfire 9800s, if you cant then i was horribly lied to LOL

unless there is another system that achives the same effect as crossfire... its a crossfire.
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Well if they same guy told you they supported HDR....

razz
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Xcession wrote:

Well if they same guy told you they supported HDR....

razz
Hehehe.
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The 9800 came out well before Crossfire which was part of the new X800 onwards technology. As far as I can tell the 9800 was AGP only and never had a PCI-E version (also a requirement of crossfire).

From the performance you're saying you're getting you can't even have a 9800 which is several years old, very slow, APG and can not be crossfired with another 9800.

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Posted: Mon, 27th Mar 2006, 1:49pm

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This game sounds amazing, I have to get it. The problem is that I don't have any money at the moment, and I'm afraid that it's not going to rum well on my PC (at least not until I get a new processer). sad

But I'll get in one way or another.
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my comp runs on radeon 9600 256, 2.2 ghz, 1gig of ram, how well would this run on my pc?
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I'll wait for summer to pick this up. I too was a Morrowind fanatic but I don't think nowis a good time to pick up another addiction. What with finals coming up and all.
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Ashman - in a word - TERRIBLE. Probably even unplayable.
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sad

good excuse to buy a new pc tho smile

I think those are the specs i have, i can play half life 2 and doom 3 on full res with no slow down, i'll have to check it out tho. I'm guessing oblivion is more demanding due to the huge size of the game. If only i could afford an alienware
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I can run HL2/Doom3 on the maximum settings though I can't on Oblivion. It's definetly more demanding, I assumed that was obvious razz

an x800 or 6800 is recommended, though lesser cards are supported.
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I think I should be Okay with a
3.60 Ghz, 1 Gig of Ram and a RADEON X850
eh?
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I have a X850 and its not that great at all with Oblivion. This is part of the reason I'm upgrading my gfx card.

If I want decent amount of visual features (although HDR isn't supported on X8X0 cards) I have to run pretty low resolution and with no AA for it to be anywhere near smooth and even then it suffers quite a bit of slow down in many situations. I could turn down many of the pretty features and the quality and it would run pretty quickly but end up looking like Morrowind.

I've a Athlon 64 4100+ and 2GB RAM and I have that kinda trouble. Hybrid-halo is the same. Even Tarns card (the 7800GT) which is much faster than an X850 suffers slow downs so its a pretty demanding game. But thats the future, we would all have trouble with the next Unreal engine as well.
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If I have absolutely everything on total full maximum settings, interiors are fine but exteriors are very slow. Still playable if you don't get in a fight, but in combat it gets a bit silly. However, at a mixture of medium and high settings it's all pretty good - without sacrificing any noticeable visual niceness.
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Oh well, I wasn't planning on getting the game until summer anyways. I will be upgrading my PC then as well.
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Nvidia was supposed to release some new drivers to enhance oblivion. but so far ive only found the beta drivers at guru3d. i tried the new forceware but i cant see any difference. i read the comments on the forum about the new forceware and some say that they cant see any difference but some of them says that they have more fps after they installed the new drivers.

you can download forceware 84.25 beta here:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1356

software description:
NVIDIA just released a new ForceWare 80 driver. All new products are supported folks. The new driver fixes several issues with some games and of course support the all new GeForce 7600 and 7900 series of products.

This new version ForceWare 84.25 will contain specific performance enhances to Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

NVIDIA's developer relations team worked closely with Bethesda to optimize game performance, which also included making some driver changes to fix/enhance performance in certain areas.

Performance testing shows no two benchmark runs are identical in exterior scenes, due to Oblivion randomly placing grass and rocks, changing the amount of grass, and varying other aspects of the terrain.

Release Highlights:

* General compatibility fixes
* Adds support for GeForce 7900 GTX, GeForce 7900 GT, and GeForce 7600 GT.
* New NVIDIA PureVideo features and enhancements. Please visit the NVIDIA PureVideo website for more information on PureVideo technology and system requirements.
o Support for high definition H.264 hardware decode acceleration on GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs.
o Support for high definition MPEG-2 inverse telecine.
o Support for high definition MPEG-2 spatial temporal de-interlacing.
* Adds mixed vendor support for NVIDIA SLI.
* TV-Out/HD-out support for NVIDIA SLI.
* Added support for VSync on Direct3D games when running NVIDIA SLI.
* Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0c and OpenGL® 2.0 suppor
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Itd be nice if ATI did the same.
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schwar wrote:

I have a X850 and its not that great at all with Oblivion. This is part of the reason I'm upgrading my gfx card.

If I want decent amount of visual features (although HDR isn't supported on X8X0 cards) I have to run pretty low resolution and with no AA for it to be anywhere near smooth and even then it suffers quite a bit of slow down in many situations. I could turn down many of the pretty features and the quality and it would run pretty quickly but end up looking like Morrowind.

I've a Athlon 64 4100+ and 2GB RAM and I have that kinda trouble. Hybrid-halo is the same. Even Tarns card (the 7800GT) which is much faster than an X850 suffers slow downs so its a pretty demanding game. But thats the future, we would all have trouble with the next Unreal engine as well.
Have a look at http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

They have some fantastic deals.
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Blew a good portion of the weekend playing this awesome game. I’m not even very far into the main quest. Mostly been wandering around finding stuff that’s not on the map and building stats for my assassin.
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Hey I was wondering is any of Oblivion is cut short if you play it on Xbox 360? Seeing that I do not have a fast enough pc but my brother owns 360 I was just wondering if the vast world is cut down at all on 360? thanks
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Xog2 wrote:

Hey I was wondering is any of Oblivion is cut short if you play it on Xbox 360? Seeing that I do not have a fast enough pc but my brother owns 360 I was just wondering if the vast world is cut down at all on 360? thanks
In a word, no. as far as I know, both versions are identical as far as content is concerned.
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But PC will have all the mods and stuff.
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Alright cool...thanks
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i have found some tweaks for the game

decreasing grass density

fixing stuttering issues

general fixes

i hope they help you to get some more fps biggrin

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Not sure those links are working right, boffa.

This might prove useful for people looking for tweakage (if the guy's bandwidth isn't permanently screwed, that is):

http://ideveloper.pandora-studios.com/files/OblivionSettingsGuide.txt

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sorry about that but they are fixed now smile

and your link doesnt work either biggrin haha

edit: it works now smile
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I have a Question:

When using a Magi Staff of Destruction (Fire, Frost or Shock) do YOU (the player character) get Destruction Experiance?

If not it would be the players interest to use staffs simply for Utility (ie. Charm, Silence, Paralise)

And do damage with your own hands.


If so... then every body wins i suppose :p

Dose anyone know?
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SyroVision wrote:

When using a Magi Staff of Destruction (Fire, Frost or Shock) do YOU (the player character) get Destruction Experiance?
That's really a question for the Oblivion forums, this is a discussion thread about the game, not an faq.

Although, the answer's no. By using a magic item you're not casting the spell - the item is. And thus you gain no experience for it.
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sdfjashdfklash I WANNA PLAY IT!
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yeah yeah i know what the topic is on man I started it :p

Just wanted to know in a hurry :p
Mental Note : Block
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umm... shit..

guy im a vampire... my dude ... hes a vampire...

Rase your hand if you got bitten and forgot to find a cure?

*rases hand*
Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2006, 12:34pm

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Hehe, oops. I haven't encountered vampires directly yet, though I get the feeling I nearly had a nasty run-in with them at Hackdirt. Thankfully I managed to get in and out without them spotting me, so I was ok.
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Yeah being a vampire is really strange..

I think im gona make a second character just to be a vampire... it adds a whole new element to the game...

You must feed on the sleeping, if you dont feed for 12 nights (roughly) you die.

If you drink every night you remain in your basic state, but have pink eyes, If you dont drink for 4 nights you begin to become more Vampiric... The more "Vampiric" you look the more power you get and the less people like you...



Also there is the whole "day light kills you" thing.


Its very interesting... you can beocme a LICH too aparently.

*Edit* Lich not "litch"

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Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2006, 3:12pm

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i never really enjoyed rpg games, and i can never get into them for some reason, soo im not going to waste my money on the game, some of the stills look ok

regards,
SMB
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SMB wrote:

i never really enjoyed rpg games
You dont like RPG GAMES? (Rocken Party Girls Games)

Pfft... whatever... i guess ill just have to pillow fight them all then
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syrovision whats a litch ? biggrin i googled it but gave me some strange results smile
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WHATS A LICH!!!

Oh my dear boy... not enough DND in your past i take it...

Lich
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about the undead creature. Lich is also a city in the district Gießen, Hesse, Germany.

The term lich comes from the Old English lic, (pronounced the same) which means "corpse"; an alternative spelling is "liche". The word is cognate with modern German Leiche, meaning "corpse"; for the linguistic background see lich on the German language Wikipedia.

In modern fantasy fiction, a lich is a type of undead creature, usually an evil magician. The usage of the term "lich" as a specific type of undead creature originates in the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game; previous works of fantasy fiction, such as Clark Ashton Smith's "Empire of the Necromancers", had used the term as a general term for an animate or inanimate corpse.

In old Roman Catholicism, the "lych" or "lych gate" is a covered area at the entrance to the cemetery where the casket awaits the clergy before proceeding into the cemetery for proper burial. As such, the suggestion as to the fantasy undead creature, the Lich, is of an undead creature that was never properly buried, never made it to the grave. This is different from other types of undead creatures, such as vampires and zombies, who were buried and returned from the dead. Since most religions maintain that only God or a god can bring someone back from the dead, there is also a suggestion of hubris in the idea of anyone but a deity reanimating dead. Hence, the idea of Undead is the idea of an unclean, unholiness.

For more : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich

___
(I do realise i put a "T" in Lich (ie liTch) for that i appoligise)
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vampires...i officially want to play now... SDFKSAJDFLASK!!!!! oink
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SyroVision - woah those screenshots look great... but you have a 9800XT? What settings?

Or maybe it's just because they're low res?
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Other than being scaled down in PS those images are as they appear...

Im running Dual Radion 9800s i dont know if they are XTs...

Some one mensioned earlyer that my cards cant be linked, this still puzzles me...

In my deffence i really have no idea how high my settings are, the game looks amazing easly better than HL2 and that i play on maxx maxx maxx...

So... yeah... no idea really LOL
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Having fiddled the settings extensively and made a few minor alterations to the .ini file, I've got the game running very nicely on my 7800GT now. The minimum framerate I get is about 20fps, but normally it's around 30fps+, and this is with mostly high settings.

In fact, I've even bumped up the settings using hidden options in the .ini in some cases, enabling full water reflections etc, as can be seen in this nice pic:

http://joshuadavies.com/gallery/Oblivion/ScreenShot33

So with a little bit of tweaking, a 7800GT can run the game really rather spiffily.
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I've done some very extensive tweaking as well, and by now I can have grass and actors at maximum view distance and items and objects very near maxmimum, but trees slightly below medium. I also run it at 1280x1024 with high textures, a modified bloom (made to look more like HDR) canopy and grass shadows off, and water on normal.

It plays between 10 and 30fps outside and between 10 and 20 in towns (I'm pretty sure my CPU is what is keeping me back) which is still on the verge of being playable.

Here's a screenshot (resized to 1024x768): clicky

As you can see, the tradeoff with being able to have grass at maximum view distance (it had to be almost at minimum before to be anywhere near playable) is that the grass is less dense.

So with a 6600gt and an Athlon XP 2600+ and 1GB of RAM, you can still pump some life out of this game.
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It'll be your GPU which is too slow Pooky - the game doesn't seem that demanding on the CPU.

I have a ATI X850 (faster than a 6600GT) and an Athlon 64 4100+ and I'm getting better frame rates than you but not by a huge amount - about the difference in GPU speeds. My CPU is faster than Tarns but my GPU is slower and he is getting way better frame rates than me. I should get a 7900GT in the next week or so which should mean I notice a huge speed boost.

Its known to be a very intensive game on graphics hardware - hence it runs well on the Xbox360. Even a PC with a 7900GTX can't run it really well with everything on full at large resolutions. I read that 2 x 7900GTX are needed in SLI to run it at a solid high framerate at the full resolution of my monitor (1920x1200). That makes it just about the most demanding current game on the market.

This is why the previous comments about the 9800 crossfire (apart from being impossible) system seemed so odd. Even if a 9800 cound do crossfire, 2 x 9800 GPUs would be much slower than any of the GPUs listed above.
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Actually, when changing the resolution changes almost notihing fps-wise, it means that what is keeping you back isn't the GPU.

And what do you mean it's not CPU-intensive? It has to calculate physics and the radiant AI system on top of the normal CPU-related things that come with advanced graphics.
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"Actually, when changing the resolution changes almost notihing fps-wise, it means that what is keeping you back isn't the GPU."

Hey Pooky - that totally does NOT prove that its the CPU slowing it down.

Loads of processing done on the GPU has very little to do with the final resolution and more to so with the size of textures and the filtering and shaders applied to them.

I also expect you're only changing between fairly similar resolutions? Maybe 800x600 to 1280x1024 which means you probably only drop a few frames. Try between 800x600 and 1600x1200 or beyond then you should see the framerate drop quite a bit more. Check out most GPU statistics and you'll see that the difference between the lowest resolutions is never that great its only once you get quite high (or start adding AA etc) that frame rates starts to take a hit.

If I run at 800x600, 1280x720 (which is the resolution I'm using) or 1280x1024 it makes very little difference to frame rate on my system. But if I up it to 1920x1200 or up the quality and features it crawls - this is GPU related, not CPU related hence the need for such powerful hardware to get the best from the game. This is the reason that I can run ok in town with 10 AI characters walking around at 1280x720 but as soon as I go above this (or increase quality) it gets very jerky - there is no more CPU being used to render the scene at higher resolution, just more GPU because of the extra polys for all the characters.

Tarns processor isn't a massive amount faster than yours but his GPU is well over twice as fast hence he has no problems running the software. My GPU is a bit faster than yours and my CPU is much faster than yours and it only runs a bit faster for me than it does for you (the difference in our GPU performance).

I bet if I stick my spare 6600GT in I get almost exactly the same framerates as you although I have more CPU and more RAM.

Back to the CPU stuff, sure the program uses CPU but its not particularly intensive compared to other current generation games. I very much doubt the AI system is anymore hardcore to process than that of current FPS games (which require more speed than Oblivion) and the physics engine is not universal covering every object all of the time. On most scenes I doubt it has to calculate anything at all - only when something which is effected by physics is moving. In this way I doubt it uses much more CPU than HL2 which is fine on low spec machines.

The fact that additional framerate was found messing with the ini also points towards it being performance found in the GPU and that you've now found the limits of your GPU. Oblivion is known to be a very graphically intensive game (if not the most graphically intensive game out there) and a 6600GT or X850 are no longer very fast compared to the GT7900s and X1900s out there.
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Oh nizzle,

How far are peeps in this thing...

im Arena Champion, im the Arch Mage of the Mages Guild and almost the New Grey Fox...

damn this game is big!
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Rating: +1

i just found a mod called Landscape LOD texture replacement. it replaces the lo-res textures on the distant terrains which looks like puke in my opinion to hi-res and it looks really really good!

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=328524

there is also a LOD Normal Map replacement mod
http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=330112

those two works really good together and makes a beautiful game more beautiful biggrin

here is some before and after screens:
before:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a70dfd1864.jpg

after with LOD landscape and normal map:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a19c8d2f1a.jpg

http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=264

before:http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=265
after:http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=266

the best thing is that i and many others that have tried these mods had no fps decrease!

i think you should try it and its easy to unintsall them too if you like the puke better biggrin
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nice work, there +Recomend for that.
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Fairly vital for PC Oblivion players is the tweakguide guide, which went up yesterday:

http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_1.html


I highly recommend it - I went through the guide and my game is now looking and performing better than ever.
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Hey here are my specs how do you think it will run on my computer? Radeon x600 ( yeah not great) 3.0 ghz, 1 gig of ram
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X600 is quite a bit slower than a the X850 I used to run it on and it didn't run that well on that. It was playable but you had to live with medium settings on many things. The X600 is a fair bit slower - I think it would play, but it wouldn't look that great.
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Ok, well I just went out and bought it for my Xbox 360 and it looks amazing. I haven't had enough time to play it that much yet.
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Where can I get lockpicks? I already joined the Theives guild and the guy at waterfront won't give me the option to buy them anymore. Is there another place I can buy or get them?
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I've picked up a crapload of them from dead guys and chests and stuff. I have the pc version though so I dunno if its the same, probably is though.
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I'm Master of the Fighter's Guild, Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, Grand Champion of the Arena, and a Blade. And my 1-hand sword does 19 damage (I'm level 9) and soultraps smile

The tweakguides thing is really great, and I also recommend looking for "recommended mods" lists if you have the PC version. I've got mods that fix 3rd person camera, make better-looking water, gets rid of annoying messages (like "Loading area..." and "Your Horse is stabled outside the city."), make better coins, fixed the moon textures, fixes the "soup" or distant textures, and mods the UI so the map is bigger and the Inventory displays more stuff. smile

Unless you have a system equal or better than a Geforce 6800gt or Radeon X850XT, 3.0GHz cpu, and 1GB of ram, and don't care much about mods, it's obvious that the Xbox 360 version is far better since it looks just as good as the PC version at maximum (except for resolution, of course) but it runs nice and smooth. Can't say the same for my medium-high settings and 20fps.
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I'm not really a gamer but I came across this article which you Oblivion fans may find interesting/helpful if you're thinking of upgrading your video card.

Pitting ATI against Nvidia with Oblivion
Extremetech.com
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I <3 Oblivion

my Ranger is sooo uber. thsi game is amazing the story missions are soooo cool and the side quests are sooo indepth... blows the mind!
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Flybynight2112

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started off my spring break badly, with buying oblivion and realizing my video card is to old, haha, to think it used to run games well ;_; i wanna play!!! sad