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Bomb Squad

Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 11:36am

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This is one of many coming short-tests. We're experimenting with editing, pyrotechnics and AlamDVs great Muzzleflashes.

Nevertheless it's a quite fast und somehow dramatic shootout. Nothing too serious though.

But it was fun to do it and hope you enjoy viewing it.


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Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 4:10pm

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Oops you did it again biggrin

This mayby isent youre best movie, but its a hell of a clip.
It looks cool when you mix blood effects from alamdv with firecrackers or whatever you used!?
And youre the coolest guy in the movie biggrin the sniper guy!.
You look so bad! biggrin . And nice wepons, That m16 realy look good, bb gun? my friend has one too... but he is so afraid about it so i can never borrow it sad smile
But are you a sniper or what are you? cuz snipers dont use m16:s biggrin
Mayby a stupid comment, but im a wepon crasy (since i was young) guy that knows everything about all guns, model, what bullets it uses and so on. biggrin
And another good thing... Do you have an own music maker or something? the music i hear in almost all youre movies, is good film music that i never heard before, and it sounds so pro! (i have tried to make own music once)

Its just 1 bad thing! When that girl is about to go in, she reloads. Just have to say that the reload sound sounds so... so.... i laught at it! it sounds better without thoose sound from the net! or games, there always lame. biggrin But its mayby cuz the sound is so high (make the same mistake myself, make the sound too high)
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 4:12pm

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(the last was also a stupid comment, to make it superb next time)
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 5:05pm

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hey, thanks v6proz! :)

Sure, it's not an oscarworthy movie, this really is just a basic test for alle the pyrotechnicsstuff (we used ladycrackers) :))


Yeah, I know, I know... Sniper don't use M-16... But I have only M-16, Uzi und several guns... So the M16 was the best weapon for sniping... :)
That was mainly a parody of our older movies. I die in almost every movie I make.. :)

The reload sound reall is crappy, but it was the best I could find... :)


For the music... well... I'm absolutely keen on filmmusic. It's the only kind of music I listen to, even in my spare time... :)
So I have quite a big archive of CDs and Filmscores. I mix them together for those short clips (Mixing is very important, the music has to match the speed and ambience of the current scene). This ones from Metal Gear Solid from harry Gresgson-Williams (a partner of Hans Zimmer) and the one from the test is "The mummy returns" by Alan Silvestri.

I usually write our music myself. At least in our bigger projects because of copyright reasons. But in these tests or shortclips I use some from my archive. :)

Cool you like it... Now you can see me die over and over again... haha ;)
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 5:23pm

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*v6proz is watching Sollthar die frame-per frame*
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 5:28pm

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lol
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 7:46pm

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Sollthar wrote:

hey, thanks v6proz! smile

Sure, it's not an oscarworthy movie, this really is just a basic test for alle the pyrotechnicsstuff (we used ladycrackers) smile)


Yeah, I know, I know... Sniper don't use M-16... But I have only M-16, Uzi und several guns... So the M16 was the best weapon for sniping... smile
That was mainly a parody of our older movies. I die in almost every movie I make.. smile

The reload sound reall is crappy, but it was the best I could find... smile


For the music... well... I'm absolutely keen on filmmusic. It's the only kind of music I listen to, even in my spare time... smile
So I have quite a big archive of CDs and Filmscores. I mix them together for those short clips (Mixing is very important, the music has to match the speed and ambience of the current scene). This ones from Metal Gear Solid from harry Gresgson-Williams (a partner of Hans Zimmer) and the one from the test is "The mummy returns" by Alan Silvestri.

I usually write our music myself. At least in our bigger projects because of copyright reasons. But in these tests or shortclips I use some from my archive. smile

Cool you like it... Now you can see me die over and over again... haha wink
question to you, first though, I just wanted to say Ive seen all of your films and you have great talent. Second who I cant see but has really great talent is the camera operator.

My question is, when you film diferent views from two people talking do you just take the first take, then shoot it again from another point of view and cut them together Or are you using multicams.
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 7:50pm

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A hell of a great movie, but its one thing i really have to complain about, im so mad about it, i thoght u would know better than that!

If u should yell noooooo, IT HAVE TO BE NOOOOOOO that is much better!!!!! razz

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Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 8:19pm

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Bong!

This is one of your best.
I loved it. biggrin
We need more head shots in the cinema!!!!!!
Kudos to your death scene actors.
Makes me want to get out the .306 and conduct some business.
Great action, just enough story that you don't loose sight of the Carnage.

Well done!

-Neo
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 8:40pm

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Again you did it, i'm going to the vote section right now! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 8:52pm

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haha, thanks a lot :))

(I just love this headshot at the beginning... But that hurt a lot) :)))


To amblix...
We just used one camera. But I mostly film the same scenes 3 or 4 times as exactly as possible, just to make sure i have something to edit later on the pc. So I can select many different views and angles.

Thank you very much for the compliment. And I will give it to my girlfriend, she usually does the camera together with me... :)
(she's the female squad-member)
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 10:39pm

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Hi, it's me, the one from Basel (you should know who...! wink)

Nice work! Some interesting camera angles.

But may I give you some advice? (Hope you don't get mad at me for this, just trying to help! wink)

1. It's a good idea to brighten up the frames, where muzzle flashes can be seen, but don't do that in outdoor shots. It always looks like an a nuclear bomb or something! Muzzle flashes NEVER brighten up their surroundings outdoors (except in night shots; but there again, the background has got to remain black). If they could, they had to be brighter than the sun, right? wink
2. The muzzle flashes look to bright for outdoor shots. Try to make them more transparent and maybe more orangey in color.
3. The blood is way to bright. Is it from Alamdv? Try to darken the frames in the plugin or completely forget them (CG blood looks bad in 90% of the cases). The "Frauef├╝rz" (only you know now what I mean! wink) look good enough! And why not try to stick a blood pack over it? Works good for me!

But don't get me wrong now, it's still a good clip! wink Once again, you outplay everybody else!

I hope you don't rethink about inviting me to your casting now!
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 11:04pm

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Very Nicely done there, Good shots, panning and effects, the music went well with it, it gave us a good view of an infiltration attempt (reminded me of a certain level in metal gear solid), Keep up the good work smile
Posted: Tue, 30th Apr 2002, 11:19pm

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Guten kino herr sollthar! I know what you mean v6proz, but actually a sniper CAN use an M16. wink

critique - blood splatters looked a little slow - that's all
muzzle flashes are good - cinematically - being that there's no flame in real life.
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 2:23am

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Solthar............where do you get your guns? This is a major headache here in Canada. We need cops present etc. Pain the ass.

Anyone else let me know what you do. Cheers.

-Neo
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 3:39am

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Fortunately, these Softair-Guns are relatively cheap and easy to get in Switzerland. You can even buy electric machine guns, which is forbidden, for example, in Germany.
However, cops here are sensitive too, so it's better if you call the police before shooting (literally! wink). That's what I do when filming and they are very friendly, just have to say where I am and how long I'll be there.

But that's just my answer...and I wasn't asked! wink But Sollthar and me are both from Switzerland, so I hope neither of you minds when I tried to give an answer! wink

But I'm still interested in Sollthar's answer - so go ahead! wink
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too Raider...
Yes you can use it in a certen distance, but not to long. The accuracy is realy just for 700meters. then the bullets get to spread. (if i remeber right)
But yes, you can use it as a sniper.
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 12:23pm

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Well... basically I have nothing more to add... :)

Tino's right, you can get them everywhere here in switzerland. The guns for example, I didn't even bought in a weaponsstore but in a luna-park for 5 bucks each... So I bought ten of them... :)

The cops really are freindly in this kind of matter... but... ya know... just as a little tale...
Once we were shooting in front of a nice building (looked cool, so we chosed that one as background, without knowing what it was and without tellng anyone)... ten minutes after, the cops arrived... well... in numbers...
4 Policecars and 2 civil cars came, cops armed and shouting at us. We could explain everything and then they told us, that this building was a huge bank and there's a lot of money inside... So... moral of it is... always ask... :))


Woher aus der Schweiz bist du? Wie kennen uns nicht, oder doch?
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 12:41pm

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Didn't you see my posting yesterday? I've made a comment about "Bomb Squad"!

Ich bin der Enea aus Basel! (Tino ist der Name der Rolle aus meinem ersten Film)

The guns you bought at a luna park: what kind of guns are they? Are those the ones, that are just supposed to make a weapon sound when pulling the trigger or are they real softair guns? If that's the case, I wish to know where you got them! I spent already more than 300 (Swiss) bucks for my collection (6 handguns; fortunately, I found someone who is a passionate softair player and owns all kinds of full autos; and he's 33 (!) years old, so he looks great as a gangster leader for my new movie! wink)
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Ah, du bist es!! cool! :))

Yes, yes... If seen your post, but just right now... must have overlooked it! :(

Well, thanks for the comment! To your comments:

1. Yes, I know... But if the muzzleflash doesn't interact in anyway with the background, it doesn't look good. So this way it looks a little more integrated into the picture. That's why i do it. Sure it's not real... :)

2. Alright, I'll try to do that next time.

3. Yeah, it's the bloodplugin from AlamDV... usually, I never use digital blood anyway, I use real squibs. The color is wrong, you're right.

haha, sure not! You're still invited! (And I'm still waiting for the answer to my mail! Really curious) :))

oh, and for the guns.. Yes, they're softguns. But not the Hop-Up ones. You can't use them for painball or something, but as movieprops they're just perfect :)
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wicked! I loved it, man you do good work, I enjoy them alot. Keep it up! you should do a half hour film and link it to an ftp site so we can dl it I would really like to see how good of a screenwriter you are along with directing etc..

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Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 8:55pm

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AWESOME USE OF THE BLOOD, but what exactly did you guys use for the smoke for the body hit? It looks real . . . .. Did you use ALAMDV smoke? Thanks!
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 9:46pm

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Hi... Thanks! :)

The smoke was sometimes real, sometimes a particle system I made in C4D (try turning it into a plugin, actually).
The "pyrotechnic" effects, such as smoke or bulletimpacts were done using ladycrackers... I'm sure you know these... :)
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 11:03pm

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You're lucky. Airsoft guns are over $50.00 bucks here (Import from the US) + they have an Orange tip. Total Bullsh$t!!!! If I looked into it, and sent you some $$$ Solthar, would you consider being my "arms dealer"?
wink biggrin

-Neo
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 11:27pm

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you know, you can just paint over the tip.


Sollthar: If you could turn those effects into plug-ins, we'd have some killer body hits!
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 11:45pm

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Neo - - - Right now I could buy an airsoft gun (most pistols) for $25 (US) so If you want one, just . . . .send me a few bucks (and some for shipping to canada) and waalaa! Guns for you!

samgorski@mediaone.net

I'd be happy to help you out.
And the orange tips - - EASY! I took black spray paint to the tip of mine and it looks like the orange was never there.
Posted: Wed, 1st May 2002, 11:47pm

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Hey Neo- Can you buy those toy guns at the store, the ones with orange ends on them. If so just take the ends off and the guns look pretty real. As long as you dont charge them. smile
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AND: Solthar - - what would I do with the firecrackers? How would I attach them to my self? I don't know how the heck I'd get them just for the smoke.

and . . . .. . . Though I have no problem with profanity, i think the mother$%#& part in the movie is messed up, cause in real life, that guy (you) would've gotten a cap busted in him before he could say "You mo . ."
the movies cool though . . .um . . you know that already! oy!
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Well... yeah... Ya know... for this mother.... thing.... Actually we laughed about that, cause something like this is common thing poeple in action movies say before they die... :)

And for the firecrackers. We simply light them and threw them at each other from outside the camerangle. They don't hurt (except the one exploding right next to my eye, that hurt)

But to be honest, you shouldn't try this except you have firecrackers that aren't strong enough to hurt you, such as the ladycrackers. Try using glue strips to attach them... we just forgot it.
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I figuered that out a looong time ago wink
I have actully tried it, pretty cool, just that... lol... the first i throwed at my friend got stuck inside his jacket. Bam! and there was a hole lol
I thougt that the "ladycrackers" were gentle, but he had one of thoose thin jackets, you know.
And when you screemed! Mother f**ker, i laught, laught like hell razz
I thought everybody knew that it was a joke lol
And when youre girlfriend screems ┬┤NOOOOOOO!, it sounds like a monster! tard
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LOOOL :)

uhm.... well... the one crying "Nooo" is... hmm... a boy... Dustin... actually... My girlffriend is the other one... the female one... :))))))

haha, yeah... happens a lot with those ladycrackers. I have a whole in my favourite pullover now... :)
Once one ladycracker got inside of a freind pocket where he was keeping the other ladycrackers... He pretty much... well... exploded... But nothing happend to him. Just the jacket... wasn't really there anymore... :)
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HAHAHAHAHAH! LOL! redface biggrin
Soo sorry! i watched it again and saw that it wasent her lol
somehow i mixed them up,,, mayby the hair rolleyes
Hey dont tell him this! then he will hunt me down! And take a chainsaw and cut me in too peices. Hmmm... what movie is that now again?
Ahhh! from a swedish, english movie... Vendetta. Have you seened it? if you havent, see it! its pretty good. Youre entertained all the time, mayby not an oskar. But still good.
Posted: Sat, 4th May 2002, 2:06am

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That was a very good flick. So...depressing lol
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Firecrackers in your pockets? That's nothing. I was showing Sidewinder some of this big 10ft (~3.5meters) coil of FUSE I got on wednesday- I lit a cut off piece of it (2cm) and it flew away and landed on the coil and the entire thing went up. I almost started my room on fire! But niko helped me get the rug turned around so my parents wouldn't notice because there's a big hole in it. And a few holes in my dresser.
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haha... ohw... yes, that's the danger when playing with firework of any kind.... I've almost set my room on fire a couple of times too... :)
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You know what works well for explosions, is a bit of fuse like you described Mecha and the hollowed out interior of a "Firecrack Volcano". If you rig the two up, it goes kaboom quite nicely (it's also dirt cheap).

-Neo
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Hmm... yes, could work... But I think we've found the best way to do explosions for us (llok at Cyborgwars, Turicon or the groundexplosion Plugin)... And they cost less than 1 $ each :)
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he..he....he.....

-Neo
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....

Solved... :)
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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lol
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Me want to know how! lol

Im 15! im 15! im 15! its legal for me to use firecrackers now! but when i can use firecrackers, i dont want to use them instead i want to make explosions... lol :o
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Use the plugins man or you'll end up blowing parts of your body off you might need when you're my age! wink

-Neo

.......a kid just blew half his face off here in Toronto with some homemade Pyror kit.
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Nice gunfight. No real plot, but then again, it doesn't really need a plot. Nice surprise ending. It's nice to see the good guys are not superheros. (Meaning you're not afraid to kill them off.)
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Probably the best one I've seen on here. I know this is an effects site but I think that there's no point watching a film for just the effects. If you'd tried harder to improve the action I'd like it more. I thought it was funny when the long haired guy sounded like a wookie and when the sniper spent so long insulting the guy who shot him rather than shooting him. Also when it says to be continued are you really going to make a follow up. I'd have spent less time on watching the guys in balaclavas walking about, used establishing shots of the rooms in which action took place so you'd have a better idea of what was going on and made the sequence flow more. I don't think it's possible for anyone to make an action sequence as good as John Woo's hospital shootout in Hardboiled. Although I've seen action sequences much worse than yours in big budget films. Keep filmin.
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I really enjoyed this film. The beginning is what really makes it good. It never lacks action, and I like the special effects used. The part where the sniper is shot, I just love the music change, and how it reverses the plot of normal movies, where people would come to save him. In this film, they leave him there, knowing that they can't do anything about it. I really liked this film. Keep up the good work! Gave it 5 stars!



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tard
i was confused, they all wore black. and looked the same.
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i can kinda see what the last comment was about, it might be the compression but the man and woman wore the same clothes ( in fact so did the baddies )
so from that point might be worth making sure that don't happen in the future

But now to my thoughts.

I loved the sniper thing, ( i'd love to make a sniper film )
the guys getting shot were well acted. it's hard to die and i'm sure you used the same people again and agian.

Good use of fx.

Bit annoyed i couldn't view this before, ( never had .mov player )
I going to have to see if i've missed others.
people will think i've got something going with you sollthar
another 5 stars
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 5:48am

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thougt it was great fx iam making a S.W.A.T Video and was going to have to use real squibs and blank firing guns. But know if I can get my guys to get Alam2 I wont need to. Hell mabey I'll shot mt movie and let some of you guys add the fx and pay you for it.

ANY TAKERS if so e-mail me at, robert@robertcpemelton.com

Nice work guy really.
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what a hell of a movie, i like it biggrin



what kind of muzzle flash did you use for the m16
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Sollthar

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Heh, excellent. Good luck with the filming guest!



Thanks Koga! That were the cinematic muzzleflashes from AlamDV, the big ones.
Posted: Fri, 31st Oct 2003, 6:07pm

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before i got alam my friends and i tested out mking our own explosions. we found a really good ay of filling balloons with acetylene (a gas used in torches) and then using a model rocket ignitor to blow up the balloon. i even wired together a wireless controller to detonate the ballons from far away. when the balloons would blow up, they would mk a huge flaming ball and then would release a huge plume of black smoke. it was pretty cool!
Posted: Wed, 12th May 2004, 6:11am

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suture

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good times. i really liked the location.... very robocop ...liked the camera movement.
Posted: Wed, 12th May 2004, 8:51pm

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ectoace

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hey, great job on the movie. i liked it alot. i got a question though, where did you get the sound effects? i always have a problem finding good sound effects for my movies.
Posted: Sat, 2nd Oct 2004, 1:49am

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sk8npirate

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Can anyone tell me what was used for the blood in this?
Posted: Sat, 2nd Oct 2004, 12:46pm

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Sollthar

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I got a big collection of soundfx. Don't remember where I got them all from, sorry. crazy


I used AlamDV for the blood.
Posted: Sat, 2nd Oct 2004, 2:07pm

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xbreaka

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which blood plugin??!!!???
Posted: Sat, 2nd Oct 2004, 2:19pm

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Sollthar

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I don't rememer!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat, 2nd Oct 2004, 2:24pm

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xbreaka

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Sollthar wrote:

I don't rememer!!!!!!!!
damn you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sun, 3rd Oct 2004, 1:32am

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sk8npirate

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Aghh blast it all, those blood plugins seem much better than anything in the plugins collection right now
Posted: Fri, 4th Mar 2005, 5:50pm

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Remco Gerritsen

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Wow, bombsquad is very cool...

You're my inspiration !!! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 17th Apr 2006, 11:48pm

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That was one of the GREATEST movies I have seen here!!!!! hugegrin

5/5

I would like to point out you somehow get some swear words in all of your movies mad
Posted: Mon, 17th Apr 2006, 11:52pm

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Sollthar

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Heh, not in ROSE or DARLA DIRLADADA smile
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 3:13am

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Seargent

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Well Sollthar, dang you cornered me. Those are the 2 movies of yours I haven't been able to watch yet. Love your explosions clap
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 2:08pm

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For some reason whenever I select your movie file in my "Movies" folder it locks up. Really confusing....
Posted: Sat, 23rd Jun 2007, 2:13pm

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FXhomer23824

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Great use of effects and a good story.