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RECON 2022 TEASER

Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 11:57am

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RECON 2022 picks up two years after the events of RECON 2020: The Caprini Massacre (www.recon2020-movie.com).

Sharp has now been promoted to Lieutenant and leads a brand new unit through the perils of Mezzo, an hostile ice planet in order to fight hordes of blood-thirsty cyborgs and maybe finally discover who is behind it all.

Anderson Bradshaw (Sharp), Valerie Wiseman (Kara) and Gillian Leigh (Fooks) return from the the first film and join forces with a brand new cast that includes FXhome's very own mighty Sollthar in order to face the perils of Cyborg City...

Enjoy!

Or not... Either way, comment!


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Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 12:07pm

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Jesus Christ!

Love the hoth-esque world. Costumes and props are - as ever - superlative.

My issues are rather minor and probably inconsequential:-

1. A number of the muzzle flashes look washed out. I realise they are actual flashes and I appreciate this may be for realism's sake, but your film is about cyborgs - in my opinion you've either gotta go all the way with the fiction and stylising (fully-graded big orange flashes), or none of the way; you can't mix. 28 seconds in, playing the flashes frame by, they just look wrong. 32 seconds in, however, look great.

2. Some of the actors don't quite look the part - they're either a bit too youthful, non-battle-scarred and fresh-faced....or they look a bit too ordinary. Films of this type usually involve actors with striking features. Look where Starship Troopers 2 got without the actors from the first film.

Other than that though......Jesus Christ!

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Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 12:15pm

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Hehe, it's great to see some footage from that mad little shoot. smile

Well, what can I say. It does look great and MUCH better then the first film. The compositing is great, the action is right, there's cute ladies and tough boys (and a geeky Science Officer)... What more can you want? wink


As a Teaser, this works as good as Teasers should be. It teases with great shots, cool locations and lots and lots of action. I definately can't wait for the ride!


(My only gripe is the first shot, which I don't like much. Looks pretty cheap imo, especially compared to all the other shots)

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Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 12:27pm

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WOAH.

That is all.
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 12:33pm

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5 out of 5. More comments unneccesary.

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Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 12:33pm

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OMG!
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Xcession wrote:

1. A number of the muzzle flashes look washed out. I realise they are actual flashes and I appreciate this may be for realism's sake, but your film is about cyborgs - in my opinion you've either gotta go all the way with the fiction and stylising (fully-graded big orange flashes), or none of the way; you can't mix. 28 seconds in, playing the flashes frame by, they just look wrong. 32 seconds in, however, look great.
That appears to be an unfortunate side effect of my film look recipe since we shot progressive, the muzzle flashes that actually work look normally fine but since some of the footage still had sometimes an od video like feel despite the progressive, I added on my trademark film look recipe and it seems to have played with the integrity of the muzzle flashes. I am working to fix that - it bothers me too.

Xcession wrote:

2. Some of the actors don't quite look the part - they're either a bit too youthful, non-battle-scarred and fresh-faced....or they look a bit too ordinary. Films of this type usually involve actors with striking features. Look where Starship Troopers 2 got without the actors from the first film.
Some of the actors are supposed to be fresh faced - they are recruits and for some of them, this is their first combat situation. As for ordinary, it is in the eye of the beholder... wink You couldn't have more fresh faced than the first Starship Troopers... The second one, I don't think it was only the actors that contributed to its failure... I think there was a lot more factors...

Thanks for the comments.

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(My only gripe is the first shot, which I don't like much. Looks pretty cheap imo, especially compared to all the other shots)
That is actually a glorified animatic. As the CG progresses, I'll eventually replace it. For now, it is better than nothing.
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 2:57pm

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You couldn't have more fresh faced than the first Starship Troopers
Fresh-faced? yes. Ordinary? no. Casper Van Dien has a jaw-line which makes Gilette look like Gilette for women!
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 4:37pm

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NICE.
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 5:08pm

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Going against the grain here a bit.
I heard a rumour the Recon 2 teaser was making it up online today so for most of the day I was looking forward to it when I got home.
Anyways, enough of my diary.

I couldn't follow much of what was going on in this teaser - and I know thats a general point of teasers. On the plus side.. hell yeah, I loved the guns and the explosions, and loved one of the shots with the cyborg getting that thing removed from his back (my favorite shot in the teaser).

To me, there wasn't much pacing, instead there was just pace, its just relentless shot after shot? It didn't tease me, I actually thought you were a bit over the top with the eight seconds or so of head turns and reveal character shots, some of the other shots are really good though, and I love the contrast in colours of the snow/marines/explosions.

I guess I was just hoping there would be this slow fantastic shot in slomo of the Recon team going into battle, like. really teasing.

I prefer the teaser trailer to the original Recon (from memory).
Overall, I think I just want to see more lingering shots and balance so I can grasp what is going on/absorb the shot.

When can we see the trailer? smile

P.S - Green breasts are always a plus heh
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I'm not really going to comment on the film itself because well.. I cant yet ha. My comments now are just toward the editing used with this teaser. I personally dislike teasers that just show random shots every 1-2 seconds with no interesting rhythm. It would be one thing to do that if it had some time of flow to it but these really dont. I guess I agree with Er-No more. This teaser could have really been badass if you slowed it down a lot and maybe added more trailer-esque effects instead of just hard cuts the whole time. It took away from the professionalism, which I know you have, imo.

And you might be thinking what Im describing would be for a full trailer and not a teaser but not necessarily. I'm not saying tell a good amt of the story cuz thats not what a teaser is for. But you could have clued the audience in on just a lil more than knowing that there are explosions and shootings going on, is all im saying. Anyways, Ive ranted too much. I really wanna see the final product though. Good luck with the rest of post. (and filming if there is any left)
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 7:16pm

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I like it; perfect for a teaser! smile
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 8:03pm

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Great trailer John. Any update on the distribution for 2020 in the states?
Posted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006, 8:25pm

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Or Sweden, for that matter? razz
Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006, 4:29am

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The original RECON should be out in the US/Canada on DVD within the next six months as it looks like we finally have a decent deal in the works. As for Sweden, we have had offers but nobody followed up. They are a bit strange those Swedish/Finnish distributors... LOL!

EDIT: Xcession - I never said that the cast of Starship Troopers was ordinary. Except maybe for Neil PAtrick Harris and Dina Meyer... They look very ordinary to me... As I said, it is all in the eye of the beholder.

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Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006, 5:04pm

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er-no wrote:

On the plus side.. hell yeah, I loved the guns and the explosions
LMAO, well... allot of shots were done well.. but i thought it was pretty freekin retarded.. "UP YOURS A$$ HOLE" LOL

i really dont have much to say to it.. besides... create a plot.. try not to jump around soooo fast.. explotions gun shots.. arnt everything..

haha.....
Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006, 7:35pm

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cheezyfilms wrote:

explotions gun shots.. arnt everything..
I see our opinions differ greatly! razz
Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006, 8:52pm

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Xcession wrote:

Casper Van Dien has a jaw-line which makes Gilette look like Gilette for women!
Ain't this the truth! I wondered if they needed an extra long chin strap for his helmet.

Try watching this HBO movie Poolhall Junkies with Mars Callahan. He could pass for Jay Leno's son. hugegrin
Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006, 12:16am

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OMG WOW 5 Out Of 5 from me! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006, 2:49am

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alpha54 wrote:


I see our opinions differ greatly! razz
lol the difference between a simple mind.. and a even more simple mind????

lol just playin
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cheezyfilms wrote:

i really dont have much to say to it.. besides... create a plot.. try not to jump around soooo fast.. explotions gun shots.. arnt everything..

haha.....
You do know this was the teaser and not the final film... right?
Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006, 3:25am

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Serpent wrote:

cheezyfilms wrote:

i really dont have much to say to it.. besides... create a plot.. try not to jump around soooo fast.. explotions gun shots.. arnt everything..

haha.....
You do know this was the teaser and not the final film... right?
Heh, I don't think he understood my point.
Anyways... bring on the film. smile
Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006, 3:55am

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er-no wrote:


Heh, I don't think he understood my point.
Anyways... bring on the film. smile
haha no no er-no i understood you lol. i was kind of making fun of a lot of people who really say that or.. buy movies for that soul reason.. (killing, stuff blowing up.. tons of awesome looking guns) lol

i understand its a teaser.. but like a few people already said (i think er-no included) buncha random 2 secnod shots.. coulda been allot better.. if it showed something more then a gun here.. and gun there.. explotion here explotion there

grading was awesome, look of the video was good. just didnt make me want to see the real movie..
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cheezyfilms wrote:

just didnt make me want to see the real movie..
Then just don't watch it... Or follow the thread... wink

Makes sense, no?

I just don't understand people who claim to hate my movies yet they keep coming back to comment on them...

But that's just me... ;-0
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Could we possibly get a bigger version of the poster? It looked quite good smile
Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006, 6:50am

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That was just plan impressive. I want to see the whole thing. Let me know if it goes state side.

Really good, don't know why people are whining, it's a freaking sci fi action film that actually looks like it's set in a realistic enviroment. Better than Sci Fi Channel's crap anyway.

GOOD WORK,
William A. McDonald
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Hi John,

Looks great, really impressive stuff. As commented earlier in the thread, visually it looks even better than the first Recon. I can't wait to see the final film.

All the best
Mantra
Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006, 9:35am

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This looks great! I'm hoping for some great one liners on this bad boy wink
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ashman wrote:

This looks great! I'm hoping for some great one liners on this bad boy wink
You should not be disappointed...

The film should have a distribution deal in palce iwth the US by the time we finish it.
Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006, 9:09pm

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Looks good. I await the final product. smile
Posted: Fri, 21st Apr 2006, 6:42am

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Redhawksrymmer wrote:

Could we possibly get a bigger version of the poster? It looked quite good smile
This is a temp poster created by our gun wrangler during the shoot. You can get a jpeg for it here:

http://www.recon2022-movie.com/img/Recon_2022_poster_small_001.jpg

We should have a more official poster in May.
Posted: Fri, 21st Apr 2006, 5:38pm

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Rating: -5

Only reason i voted your film a 1 is becuase you cant accept the bad with the good. i would have voted it a 4 if you wouldnt have deleted several of my comments... (i guess you cant handle it?)
Posted: Fri, 21st Apr 2006, 6:08pm

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cheezyfilms wrote:

Only reason i voted your film a 1 is becuase you cant accept the bad with the good. i would have voted it a 4 if you wouldnt have deleted several of my comments... (i guess you cant handle it?)
Dude,

I did not delete your comments. Only moderators can do it. I am not one of them and I did not talk to them. In fact, I don't even know who moderates this part of the forums. I guess other people thought that it is what you deserve. You don't even know how this forum works... You are pathetic.

Your are entitled to your opinion but you are acting like an immature baboon and I was good humored about it until the last posts you made which were deleted - hence I did rate you down.

You do not like the film, fine. I don't care. Just stop polluting this thread with your nonsense. I can take the good and the bad. I have done it many times in the past and will do so for my remaining future. But a good criticism, whether negative or positive, is explained properly. Your childish, barely coherent garbage hardly qualifies as a criticism. You can barely articulate your thoughts.

Seems to me more like personal attacks - you keeping coming back to this thread to throw ridiculous insults... - I do not know why. If you don't like the film, don't watch it anymore and stop bothering me about it. You don't like it, so what? I don't know you and after your childish display, have no intention in getting to know you. Your opinion has zero value for me. So vote away...

I don't care about votes and ratings. I come here to use a software and get feedback. Sometimes, we get idiots like you, but most of the times, you get decent, honest, thought out criticism. They take the time to explain themselves, they do it in a non-confrontational way and back up their arguments. Something you seem utterly incapable of. Seems like you are just trolling... Which is fine. You will be ignored from now on.

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Posted: Fri, 21st Apr 2006, 6:17pm

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Ignored .... and deleted by me, if the trend of personal slagging continues.

In fact, since you've had your say, cheezyfilms, and made your views quite clear; you should have no reason to post anything more to this thread.
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Xcession wrote:

Ignored .... and deleted by me, if the trend of personal slagging continues.
Thanks for making that clear.

I think it's important (if you are critiquing in a negative sense) to do it in a helpful way.

Take Xcession for example (The Simon Cowell of FX-Home) LOL. Xcession points out the negative and positive, but with the negative, gives his suggestions on what the creator may think of changing/adding etc. That's the way you criticize in the negative sense.

Granted, not many people in life have an attitude of "Hey, tell me what's wrong with this so I can make it better" so it's good practice to keep that in mind.

To start resorting to "This is retarded." is not mature by any sense, and makes you lack credibility.

Finally, for me, I can take a butt-kicking... if it were someone like Michael Mann, Copolla (or whoever you look up to as a director), then at least THEY have products under their belt to do that (although I doubt that they are really like this).

But if you haven't done anything that worthy, and then blatantly put down others (again you can critcize in a valid way), well, you are really showing the lack of humility on your part.
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cheezyfilms wrote:

Only reason i voted your film a 1 is becuase you cant accept the bad with the good. i would have voted it a 4 if you wouldnt have deleted several of my comments... (i guess you cant handle it?)
Don't be ridiculous, standard users can't delete posts. Only carefully chosen moderators and the FXhome team themselves have that power.

I deleted some of your earlier posts due to their general immaturity and lack of merit, after some other users expressed their concern (not John Carter, I hasten to add).

As xcession says, you've had your say, so please let everyone else continue their sensible discussions and analysis of the film. If you want to discuss the matter further, please private message me rather than clogging up this thread.

Let normal operations resume.....

As for the trailer - good stuff, JC! A massive step up from the first movie, and it really shows in every aspect - camerawork, effects, costumes, actors, pyro, locations. In fact, the locations are really quite stunning - looks like all the hardships were worth it!

The spine rip is probably my favourite bit - great use of physical effects there. Most of my other thoughts have already been said by others, so I'll just say that I'm looking forward to the finished film and keep up the good work.
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Very Professional looking piece here. Just thought I'd touch base on a few places where I thought some improvements could be made. I found it hard to connect to this teaser. The music made me want to, but I couldn't (I loved the choice of music, by the way.). I think it was the randomness of the clips that threw me off. Good grading, camera work, authentic costumes, fricken awesome locations, and some really sweet effects. Sweet explosions and lots of guns don't necessarily make a film great, as others have said. BUT for a teaser, showing those things is a good thing. The way the guns went off, and muzzle flashes flashed, seemed strange in a few places (Duration 00:06 where the cyborg is shooting the handgun, looks out of sync). The "up yours asshole!" line at the end seemed extremely cheesy to me. In the actual film, I'm sure it would sound appropriate, due to the circumstances. But at the end of the teaser, when no one really knows what on earth is going on, it seemed really forced and unnecessary. Having a line at the end is a good idea, as a sense of closure, but I would have personally chose something different for that. The text at the end was a little hard to read and didn't stay up long enough. IMO.

5/5

Goodluck on finishing this badboy smile

How did you compress this?

-miker.
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Great! VERY pro! Looking forward to the full length film. If I was forced to say something I didn't love about it, I'd say something about the cut from the spaceship to the snow scene. Seemed ever so slightly disjointed, though it did work nicely with the music. Maybe the planet shot was just a bit too short?

Like I said fantastic work. Keep it up!
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Apparently, the link has been down for a few days on this. So here it is direct:

http://homepage.mac.com/movieseals/.Movies/RECON2_TEASER.mov

Cheers!

(If there is problems with the FXhome link, contact them directly because the link works fine on my end)

mike: The film was compressed using H.264 codec under Quicktime 7.
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The link is down because you changed the movie file at some point. The system sent you an email about this when it detected the problem. To get it re-evaluated you just need to resubmit the link in the "My Movies" section.
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John:

Great stuff from you, as always. I am biased however, because I love these types of sci-fi action films.

I was trying to understand what the discussion was about regarding the trailer (not the useless posts, the more content-oriented ones).

It was hard for me to find any problems with this, as I found the locations and grading really great. I compared this trailer to the Recon 2020 trailer. My only guess at the problems with this teaser was the lack of dialog in the beginning to build up the suspense. In the Recon 2020, your sargent quickly estabishes who they are ("the first to go, the last to know"). While in this one it just jumps into the ridiculously great looking action sequences. That might have thown everyone off.

That being said, if the purpose of the teaser trailer is to "entice the audience about an upcoming movie and to begin hype on major films." well then I thought it did the job perfectly. Some people are giving the ratings as a teaser, which I respect perfectly; I'm giving it a rating based on its overall effect and look.

5 stars from me John!

I really appreciate everything you've done so far just by looking at this teaser, especially since I just completed my own short film. My sincere compliments to those who froze their tail off making those snow scenes and those who helped make the practical effects during the shoot. I look forward in seeing the rest.
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RudyPicardo wrote:

My only guess at the problems with this teaser was the lack of dialog in the beginning to build up the suspense. In the Recon 2020, your sargent quickly estabishes who they are ("the first to go, the last to know"). While in this one it just jumps into the ridiculously great looking action sequences. That might have thown everyone off.
You make a good point here Rudy but then again, since this is a sequel, with a similar title, it should be assumed that they are still the "first to go, last to know" but well noted. The eventual trailer will address the plot/story issues down the road.

RudyPicardo wrote:

My sincere compliments to those who froze their tail off making those snow scenes and those who helped make the practical effects during the shoot. I look forward in seeing the rest.
I'm sure they appreciate your heartfelt sentiments. Some people, strangely enough actors mostly - since they spent a lot of time warmer than the crew, still talk about how cold it was... lol.
I personally hated every single minutes of it. But the production value it yields has made it worthwhile.

In a couple of weeks, the official site should be up with a few very entertaining behind the scenes clips prepared by another fellow director, Alexandre Michaud of Helltimate studios. His view on the shoot are hilarious and he really strives to show the sometimes hilarious aspect of a low budget production like RECON.