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Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 6:18pm

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I've been following the progress of this camera for a while. It was shown at NAB today and has been "released" today as well. www.red.com I will not be able to afford this, but it still looks very very good.
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 6:22pm

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The guy that I purchased plug-ins for my Final Cut Pro (Graeme Nattress) is part of this devolpment team, and he hinted at something very intense.

Good Lord this thing looks like a plasma gun.

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Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 7:00pm

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It looks mental! 11.4 Megapixles with 4:4:4 colour sampling. Yikes!
Isn't the resolution 2540p a tiny, tiny bit over the top? razz
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 7:08pm

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It can do 4K progressive at 60fps provided you have a beefy raid to write to! Thats the resolution of really high quality film! Very cool.

I might have to sell my car for one!
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 7:13pm

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I too have been following the progress for a while... Looks like an amazing camera!
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 7:27pm

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that thing looks crazy cool! i wish i had 17,000 bucks to spare...
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:32pm

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Garrison32 wrote:



Good Lord this thing looks like a plasma gun.
Yeah the design is ....... interesting. I could hardly tell it was a camera when i first saw it.
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:36pm

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Anybody have a kidney that I can sell to pay for this bad boy?
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:39pm

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if i had a kidney to sell i wouldn't give it to you to buy the camera, i'd buy the camera myself... razz wink
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:43pm

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I want one. I wonder if anyone would buy my brother. razz
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:44pm

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Harvey wrote:

I want one. I wonder if anyone would buy my brother. razz
LOL! That's what I'm saying.....
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:44pm

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don't we all want someone to buy our brothers... wink
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:49pm

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destron wrote:

that thing looks crazy cool! i wish i had 17,000 bucks to spare...
At that price, you still don't have a lense to put on it.

And anybody ever thouht about the cost in post of handling all that uncompressed 4K data...

Me thinks you need at least $100,000 to be in the ballpark...
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:50pm

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eek

Where the hell are you gonna find enough Terabytes to store all that data?!

Very, very cool! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:57pm

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most filming and production companies have huge sets of servers.
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 8:59pm

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I bet they do! It's a monster.

This thing is scaring me, technically, as well as visually. I think I'll be staying with kind ol' DV for now, I can't handle all this power! razz
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 9:01pm

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you kind of wonder how many people or companies buy those things... it's just insane...
Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006, 9:59pm

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destron wrote:

don't we all want someone to buy our brothers... wink
Well all I know is that I do.
Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006, 12:34am

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Here are the specs for the Red Camera
12 Mpixel "Mysterium" processor. It's the size of a piece of Super35mm film.

Active Pixels: 4520x 2540

Dynamic Range: >66dB

They've got a mount on the front for cine lenses.

"Acquisition Formats": 2540p, 4k, 2k, 1080p, 1080i, 720p

Frame Rates:
1-60 for 2540p, 4k, 2k, 1080p, 720p
1-120 for 2k, 720p
50/59 1080i, 720p

Video Outputs:
2k- 4:4:4 RGB
1080p- 4:4:4 RGB
1080p- 4:2:2
1080i- 4:2:2
720p- 4:2:2

Audio: 4 channel uncompressed, 16/24 bit, 48KHz

Weight: 7lbs (body only)

As well as some pictures (Thanks to dvxuser.com)


[img=http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3082/0226vf.th.jpg]
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Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006, 5:01am

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What format is it storing this footage on? Is it directly on a harddrive. Oh and thx LilCaesars for the images, it doesn't look as shiny and mental as it did on the official company pictures. Or wait, it still looks mental. smile And so does this. 1600x1200 @ 1000fps. Ouch.
Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006, 6:03am

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the hell does it look like a "plasma gun"?
Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006, 11:31am

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This picture right here looks like it might have slots something like those p2 cards that the hvx200 uses.


Obviusly these aren't the same, but it does look somewhat similar. (I think) I'm still just guessing though. Also under products on red.com they have the Red Drive (which isn't available to look at yet), but that sounds like it might store that way.
Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006, 1:12pm

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This is a great interview with Jim Jannard, the owner of RED. He goes into some detail about the storage options and general idea behind the camera.

Link

I really like the ability to shoot in 4k to use the full 35mm DOF, then scaling in camera to a more usable 2k (and presumably lower if you want).

Having followed the development of this camera on DVXuser, I'm quite amazed by the price. Even factoring in the cost of a lense and storage, it's incredible. I can't wait to see some real footage from the thing.

How much does a kidney go for these days?
Posted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006, 3:45am

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I think it's funny that people are ogling at the price - because if you look at any camera that comes anywhere near these specs in the real world right now, it would easily cost $100,000... This is bargain bin compared to that. Of course way more than any reasonable consumer/prosumer could afford, I certainly don't have the checkbook for it, .. But this is an important trend in camera-making.. For once, a company does something because they want to, not because it'll make them a bundle of cash (Okay it doesn't hurt either)

We will always see this trickle down to the consumer.. Hopefully HD cameras for the little people start coming down in price... HVX200 is a nice example of the "starting to get there" pricepoint/feature set..

Of course, nothing beats having a budget wink
Posted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006, 8:04pm

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I like the fact that with stop motion I can shoot over 4k res for less the half the price, but I'll be damned if I need that kind of resolution, usually 2k goes to 35mm just fine, only the really big guys render 3d in 4K when they transfer it to 35mm film. Another not, the max resolution on FXhome products is 1920x1080, however I did a test and the old EffectsLab demo could do 2K, it seemed to have no max limit. While it's unlikely anyone will really need that kind of resolution at most of our level it would have been nice, especially since my next camera will allow me to shoot in that range (Nikon D50 max size 3008x2000)
Posted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006, 8:32pm

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what is stop motion, it it a movie with like action figues and modle cars, putting a bunch of pics together, yeah i made those when i was like 10
Posted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006, 8:43pm

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Or films made with high quality custom made puppets and beautiful hand crafted sets that 90% of the members here could never afford in a live action.



btw, people are willing to drop a few grand for me to make a 30 sec animation for them, has anyone been willing to do the same for your live action services?
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 9:24pm

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They now have the lens up and the cost....

http://www.red.com/product/lenses/300mm-2.8f/
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 10:42pm

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yes actually, its not that b of a d, its called freelance commercials
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 11:48pm

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Garrison wrote:

They now have the lens up and the cost....

http://www.red.com/product/lenses/300mm-2.8f/
Thats a lovely looking bit of kit! And a nice price. I'd imagine the quality will be top notch too, considering the Oakley connection.

Have you seen the RED headquarters? eek



More pics here: Linky
Posted: Fri, 19th May 2006, 4:13am

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*Drool*
Posted: Fri, 19th May 2006, 4:39am

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schwar wrote:

I might have to sell my car for one!
Thats looking like a good idea about know.
*WEEPS because i cant get one.
SOMEDAY!!!!!!
Posted: Wed, 31st May 2006, 6:03pm

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RED video report at the NAB

http://www.videobomb.com/posts/show/2353
Posted: Wed, 31st May 2006, 9:02pm

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Nice find!



-the new godather
Posted: Tue, 6th Jun 2006, 7:52am

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'Inside The black box' did a good coverage of the red camera at nab http://www.macbreak.com/index_bb.php
Posted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006, 12:59am

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I haven't visited the RED site in a while, but the accessories and gallery looks pretty insane.
Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2006, 9:40pm

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It isn't... red... that would be much cooler. Although with all those hi-res pixel widescreen fps resolution 9.23434 things that I can't even understand it is cool enough already.

Man that RED headquarters looks like the Imperial shield generator in Return of the Jedi...
Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2006, 11:14pm

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Wow, just seen the video and gallery stuff.

I must use a Red next year.
Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2006, 11:40pm

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Yeah, Red is turning out pretty amazing. I have been following it for over a year now, checking the site almost every day. And keep in mind, most of the video you see on the site doesn't have any pixel correction and it's coming out of the beta of Red, nicknamed "frankie" heh.

It has amazing latitude, I can't believe it.
Posted: Thu, 16th Nov 2006, 10:02pm

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Is this the future of film? Anywhere? Motion pictures are one of the few places that analog technology still holds value. Could this Red Camera finally oust 35mm filming?
Posted: Mon, 16th Apr 2007, 7:34pm

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I didn't see this before, but here is some footage OF the camera itself.

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/action/?movie=red
Posted: Tue, 17th Apr 2007, 12:30am

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If I could sell a testicle, I'd use the money to buy this.