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What Brand of Camera do you use?

What Brand of Camera?

Sony24%[ 31 ]
Panasonic33%[ 42 ]
Canon33%[ 43 ]
JVC9%[ 12 ]
Samsung0%[ 0 ]
Sharp0%[ 0 ]
Hitachi0%[ 0 ]
Other (explain)1%[ 1 ]

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Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 12:10am

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Hey guys, just want to see what kinds of camcorders everyone is using. Vote in the poll and then chat about your camera in the thread.
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 2:32am

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I have used both the canon xl1 and gl2 extensively. I’ve also used the GL1.

Size and weight

As size goes the gl2 is defiantly easier to use in my opinion. That is if you are looking to use innovative angles, from underneath objects exe. It is much easier to hold sideways, and to angle upward, since there is not the extra length that the xl1 has. With the xl1, most of the time things are made a lot easier by holding this camera on your shoulder, while you can still get really good shots by not doing so, but the weight can make your wrist sore, especially if you have a XLR attachment and a shotgun mic on the camera. I am currently making my entry for the fan film contest using a xl1, and my arm defiantly gets a lot more tired after an hour of shooting, as opposed to using the slim cut gl2 body. The gl2 is definitely better for "artistic shots".

Image and focus

The gl2 does not have the same optical focus ring on the lens as the xl1 does, and you cant really go that crazy with lens attachments to the gl2. That’s where the xl1 comes out above, in the fact that you can go absolutely crazy with lens attachments exe. The xL1 is very customizable. The lenses can be changed out, and filters added exe. While the gl2 is not expandable like the xl1 is, a better image quality can be achieved by shutting off the auto settings and doing things manually. Gets you a nice crisp image. Same is true with the xl1, but the image is not as great as the gl2, since the gl2 is of course a newer cam.

Audio

The audio on both are pretty similar. A good shotgun cam on either can vastly improve the audio quality.
You can also find a XLR audio adapter for both cameras.

Stills
The gl2 takes some really nice stills. I cant comment on the xl1 though as I’ve never taken stills with it.

Other advantages

The gl2 has a built in lcd screen, while the xl1 does not. That can be a pain for someone who is on a budget. As the price goes, there are places where you can find the gl2 for around 1000$ so its definitely the champion of the 2 in regards to overall use. But it all depends on your filming style and what you care about having on your camera. For me I like having quick shots, and light weight portability, and for me its the gl2. Personally I’m getting kind of tired of using the xl1 for my contest entry since its so heavy bear in mind I’m using a shotgun mic and a xlr adapter.

Regards,
Adam
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 5:24am

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I don’t use a camcorder, I use a Sanyo iDshot, it is a digital still camera that I use to get 1280x720 stop motion animation. If I’m fortunate I will be upgrading to the Nikon D50 after I finish my current film, which will allow me to take true 1920x1080 high def (and for less then $2000 to boot).
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 5:35am

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Panasonic NVGS-75

Great cam ! It was really above my expections. But only the night-function is very bad. The recorded video with it is like 10 fps or less.

But for normal shoots, at day, it's a great cam.
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 5:39am

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Canon GL2, and loving it.

Though I've had some minor mishaps with a non-functioning tape head, I couldn't be happier with the image that the GL2 puts out.

EXAMPLE:


Oh, and SlothPaladin,
do you use plasticine, or some other similar clay-alternative, because the jump to high def will show many of the fingerprints and smudges on clay, will it not?
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 6:05am

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I use a sony DCR-HC90, and I really couldn't be happier. It was under a thousand dollars, has amazing color, and shoots in widescreen.
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 6:15am

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You can see fingerprints in Wallace and Gromit, it's part of the whole 'claymation look' films like Nightmare and Corpse Bride are NOT claymation, keep in mind while claymation is stop-motion, stop-motion is not claymation.

Here is a frame from the movie at full res, you can see fingerprints here and there but I think ever one would agree that it looks a hell of a lot better then Trinket.



The next movie which is kind of in the works, will be a pretentious art film, not sure it this is the right crowd for that kind of movie, but I will likely be using foam latex bodies, cloth clothing, and clay heads, something that looks kind of like Stage Fright, which aesthetically speaking, is my favorite stop-motion. (if you can buy Curse of the Ware Rabbit, seeing Stage Fright in DVD resolution is worth the price alone)
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 6:39am

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I have a Sony Handycam DCR-TRV350. It's really nice, and I've really enjoyed using it. About my only complaint is the Digital8 media onto which it records, but it's about equal to or superior to a lot of MiniDV cameras. I like it a lot, it has a nice feature set, a really nice 2.5" LCD that's got really good color.



The trouble is... it's Sony... and maybe it's a dumb thing to say... but... I don't particularly like Sony as a company given their past actions. I figure since they have no real technological lead over competing companies, I think that I will probably forego Sony products for a really long time.

That said... I have a question in regards to the Canon GL2... does it record in high-definition?
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 6:52am

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A Pickle wrote:

That said... I have a question in regards to the Canon GL2... does it record in high-definition?
No, it's a MiniDV camera (standard def).

If you're after a HD cam then I think the cheapest you'll find are HDV ones, such as the Sony consumer-targeted HDV cams.
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 10:42am

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I use a TWISTED STUDIOS Canon GL1. My camera eats everyone's camera regardless of what you have. smile
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 11:47am

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If you're after a HD cam then I think the cheapest you'll find are HDV ones, such as the Sony consumer-targeted HDV cams.
...argh.
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 2:21pm

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I use a sony DCR-HC90, and I really couldn't be happier. It was under a thousand dollars, has amazing color, and shoots in widescreen.
Hey Waser, how long have you been using that camera?
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 2:41pm

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I use a Sony VX-2000. Nice enough stuff for fooling around

WaveX
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 8:08pm

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Canon Optura 20. It
's quite old now, but it still serves me well. Unless of course, Im trying to shoot at night.

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Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 9:58pm

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LOL. did you put that bigfoot pic there? eheheheee.
Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006, 10:16pm

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I use a canon Zr 100. cool
Posted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006, 3:03am

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I use a Panasonic DVX-100A and I couldn't be happier. It can shoot in 24p which is the only thing I use.
Posted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006, 3:50am

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whoa. that's pretty cool. is that a DV camera?
Posted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006, 9:02pm

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Yeah it is
Posted: Sun, 30th Apr 2006, 12:41am

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destron wrote:

LOL. did you put that bigfoot pic there? eheheheee.
I may or may not have doctored that image.
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 12:14am

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I have a DCR-TRV22. It's got good quaity but it isn't compatible with a USB port. evil Its only compatible withFirewire.

So I give it a 3/5
Posted: Mon, 8th May 2006, 3:23pm

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My dad bought a Canon Elura 70 a while ago and barely ever uses it, which is nice and convenient for me. It provides excellent picture, easy to use, and u can store your work on either tapes or cards. I havn't yet eperienced any problems with it, so I give it a 5/5 rating razz
Posted: Mon, 8th May 2006, 3:43pm

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I use a Sony HC42E...


I'm pretty happy about it, but in time (if I get some money) I'll probably buy a better one.

Oeyvind

PS:
Englet, you shouldn't worry about USB. I had to use USB first when I got my cam (since I didn't have a FireWire port on my computer) and the quality is about 10 times better now that I'm on FireWire. Pluss you get the correct framerate. wink
Posted: Mon, 8th May 2006, 3:57pm

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Hey Oeyvind, out of curiosity, what camera are you looking into buying to replace your HC42E?
Posted: Mon, 8th May 2006, 9:24pm

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Hey man! I've actually no idea, that's too far into the future. wink But I thought LilCaesars Panasonic looked awsome. Anyway I'd have 3CCD, a good lens which captures colours and details well, ability to shoot in progressive scan and perhaps HD (HDV)...

Oeyvind
Posted: Tue, 9th May 2006, 12:14am

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I'm using a Sony TRV900 till I can afford something better smile
Posted: Tue, 9th May 2006, 8:04pm

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i use a canon XL2 and i love it
Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 4:54pm

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Lucky smile

I'm currently using a Sony DCR TRV-103 Digital8 Handycam, which I absolutely love, but I think it is time to upgrade.
Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 7:12pm

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I use a Panasonic DVX100a. I love it! It produces an image equal to that of the Canon XL2, and beats the XL2 in low light recording. The XL2 rates anywhere from 5 lux to 7 lux depending on which review you read. The DVX100 rates down to 2 to 3 lux. Also, it uses a much more mature firmware packet to process 24p than the XL2.

It was a tough choice though, between the DVX100a and the XL2. The DVX won out due to its handling. It is a bit smaller than the XL2 making it easier to squeeze into tight location. Also the low light capabilities were a plus. Plus, I was able to pick it up for a better price than the canon. Also, after having read many side by side comparision reviews, the Panasonic DVX100a is preferred by many more indy film makers than the Canon due to it's cinema like picture.

I highly recommend it to anyone with $3000 to blow on a prosumer camera.

Gary
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side note: We'll soon have our i48 film, "The List" on here for all to see. It was shot with our new Panny.
Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 11:31pm

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my freind says that his parents are 50 years old and have leanred alot about cameras, he saud that they saud everything is crap but canon

and not to trust other companies




sounds weird to me?


cheers and cheer up
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 12:01am

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It's more than likely that your friends parents have simply developed a brand preference. Modern day Digital Cameras are very different from the cameras of the last 40 years. I'd say Sony, Panasonic and Canon are all good brands.
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Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 1:48am

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the godfather wrote:

whoa y did u give me a nagative post and no its not a little preferance, thats their opinion, and they are very stern about it, u cant just go and say o thats just a pfreferance when its was a very strong opinion, i was jsut sharing some knowledge from a different generation of cameraman.... u people need to be more open

thats was very immature to give me a negative post
What I find interesting is that you tell us to be open (which I concur) yet you share someone else's opinion who is obviously closed-mided.

I thought the topic was "what brand of camera do you use" not "which camera does your friends parents tell you to stay away from?"
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 1:48am

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godfather please "cheer up." I wouldn't be surprised if the mods have deleted your account or banned you from the forums by tomorrow morning, the way you've been posting lately.

The Fxhome community is a great one. Most everyone here is dedicated to helping others, and eager as well. They work to better amateur film-making in all aspects, and make some pretty good software as well wink

I am sure that many are sorry if you feel offended by the negative rating, but your way of communicating on the forums is easily mis-read. I hope you can learn a better way of communicating, so that you can be on these forums for a while and help to better amateur film-making and become a respected member of this community

NickD
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I use a Panasonic DVX100a. It's pretty much a steal for it's quality, framerate options, and sound. I've been highly impressed with Panasonic's stuff. The HVX-200 is the true HD version of the DVX. I have one at work and would have to say it blows me away. It's well worth the money, but don't buy P2 cards. The cards write to a semi proprietary format that very few prgrams can read or convert. Instead buy a Firestore drive or similar, as they are cheaper, and record to PC or Mac common file formats and are way cheaper. Other than that, It's another steal from panasonic for around
$6,000 US.
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 2:34pm

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Sony DSR-PDX10 in 16:9 mode:)
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 10:55pm

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Anyway, back on topic, I need some advice guys:

I'm looking into buying a camcorder 600-700 USD to replace my Digital8. Do you guys have any suggestions. I really would like a camera that shoots true widescreen.

Cheers,
NickD
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NickD wrote:

Look godfather, I do not want to argue with you. If you have a problem, talk with the mods about it.

NickD
My ruling is that the godfather is just being a troublemaker (again). At this rate, he's headed for simply being banned from the site. It seems that one of the mods is dealing with his unruly posting every day.

I've removed his posts, as a result some of yours don't make sense so I've removed those too.

*sighs* Godfather, in the future please think about what you're posting.

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Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 11:00pm

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Thanks Hybrid. I really appreciate it.
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 11:15pm

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Canon XL2
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thats a nice camera, waht do u use it for?
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Filming.
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thanks for cloggin up the thread, what kind of filming...happy now?




please cheer up
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Godfather, what the hell are you intending with your question? This is a filmmaking board... people need cameras for their filmmaking... they film whatever it is, they are making... that's why it is called filmmaking.

If you have nothing to contribute to this or any other thread, please restrain from posting, thank you.
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okay...



do u film amature films, pro films, budget films, starwars films, stargate films, other fan films, splinter cell films??, there a differnt kinds of film ok




but hey cheer up
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Obviously, yes. And if you're interested in what genre people prefer, don't hesitate to open your own thread asking for it. I'm sure you'll get many answers.

This thread has a different topic though, so please try to stay on topic.
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filmmakerfinley wrote:

but don't buy P2 cards. The cards write to a semi proprietary format that very few prgrams can read or convert. Instead buy a Firestore drive or similar, as they are cheaper, and record to PC or Mac common file formats and are way cheaper. Other than that, It's another steal from panasonic for around
$6,000 US.
It's good to have at least one small P2 card for the HVX though because you can't record the variable framerate footage (slow and fast motion) to anything but P2 cards - FYI. Firestore won't work with that feature.

AJ
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I currently use a Canon ZR70 which I would not reccomend. The picture is grainy and after I had it for about two years, it just broke. I would turn it on, but it wouldnt pick up an image. Anyway, I sent it in and they repaired it for free, regardless of whether you had a warranty or not, which was nice, but it still produces poor image quality.

And yes, I am bringing back another old thread.
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I will be getting a gl2 shortly
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Okay, how about this;

If the topic is a arbitrary thing, or a malleable thing such as technique or equipment, which constantly changes: then only bring back the topic if it's within 9 months-1 year.

Anything past that time, for malleable things, you're better off starting a new thread, so users who have already posted can give an update on their equipment, etc.

Otherwise, I don't really care, as I'm sure some others feel, as it is all otherwise known as "old news".

You wouldn't add your opinion on the Matrix Reloaded or SW: Episode III now, after they've been commented on a year ago, would you? Something that isn't really "in the moment" or in it's prime of opinion, seems to be forgotten quickly, and then it just becomes sort of an annoyance to be one of the first topics on the list.

Just my thoughts.
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Limey12345 wrote:




I use a canon Zr 100. cool
me 2
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Panasonic PV GS19:


Got it for 300 bucks. Has Manual Iris, gain, exposure, shutter speed, and focus! Great picture quality if lit correctly. It's a one CCD. Anyone else use this?

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Panasonic PV GS300. Definitely not high end, but it does take some awfully nice quality film, but can be dodgy in very low light. It's a 3CCD camera with optical image stabilization for hand held shots, a good range of optical zoom (as opposed to entirely digital zoom which I read was fairly useless) and lots of other features. One complaint is that while it has manual focus control, aperture, etc. none of it is on a ring on the lens like you're probably used to seeing on high end cameras. It's all controlled via a joystick, and it's a small joystick which can be tricky to operate. Compensating for this, however, is that it comes with a wireless remote where you can control all of those functions without touching the camera. Perfect for when you're set up on the tripod and don't want to jar your camera.

For the price, it was the best quality camera I could find in that price range, so I think it was a deal.
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I use a Canon Zr85 it has served my purpose so far.
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It's not the best camera, but I love the touch screen! Touch focus beats a focus ring, hands down. Just touch where you want to focus! But it wobbles the camera if you touch it. Oh well, great for stop motion!

I also use an XL2 at school. (We have 3!!! biggrin ) But they aren't allowed out of the studio. We use them for public access news Can you believe that after we use those cameras, the actual news episode goes on a VHS before going on the air!? It looks like total crap. Outside the studio, I try to use our Panasonic PV-GS180 as much as we can. It's out best "Allowed to roam the school" camera.

-Super

EDIT: WOAH I had no idea how old this thread was!!
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I, like alot of other people, use and reccomend the Canon Gl2. Its a perfect camera for any job and its not that expensive. I assume everyone has seen one before so I dont think I need to post a pic. biggrin
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And if anyone wants some firsthand footage examples from a GL2, just hit me up and I'd be more than happy to oblige....

Hell, might as well repost the stills....



As is utterly and completely obvious, the GL2 is one bitchin' son of a camcorder.
Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2006, 12:04am

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Corby

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I'm using a JVC GR-DVF21. which i'm lucky to have since my mom got it at a garage sale for $25! I'd like to have the canon GL-2 or the GL-1(which is what Ryan Wieber uses) my camera is pretty bad but is ok for my current projects until i have the momey to get a GL-2.



P.S. If you don't know who Ryan Wieber is, he's only the best star wars fan film maker of all time. just go to youtube and search ryan vs dorkman. you'll see what i mean!
Posted: Fri, 15th Dec 2006, 9:22pm

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phoenixd

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AGDVX100B...yummy...

Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2006, 5:56am

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Zero767

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Jazzmanian wrote:



Panasonic PV GS300. Definitely not high end, but it does take some awfully nice quality film, but can be dodgy in very low light. It's a 3CCD camera with optical image stabilization for hand held shots, a good range of optical zoom (as opposed to entirely digital zoom which I read was fairly useless) and lots of other features. One complaint is that while it has manual focus control, aperture, etc. none of it is on a ring on the lens like you're probably used to seeing on high end cameras. It's all controlled via a joystick, and it's a small joystick which can be tricky to operate. Compensating for this, however, is that it comes with a wireless remote where you can control all of those functions without touching the camera. Perfect for when you're set up on the tripod and don't want to jar your camera.

For the price, it was the best quality camera I could find in that price range, so I think it was a deal.
Word. I love it! Plan to get the gl2 in 2-3 years, lol.
Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2006, 3:09pm

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Nutbar

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At the moment i use a Sony DCRHC14. Its not the best camera in the world, but it produced decent images and wasn't costly. I'm planning on updating sometime in the new year, although im undecided whether to "settle" for the GS300/500 or just go ahead and go for the GL2.
Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2006, 11:20pm

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Dancamfx

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Nutbar wrote:

At the moment i use a Sony DCRHC14. Its not the best camera in the world, but it produced decent images and wasn't costly. I'm planning on updating sometime in the new year, although im undecided whether to "settle" for the GS300/500 or just go ahead and go for the GL2.
Go with the GL2...Buying my canon gl2 was the best decision I have ever made. Plus there's a $250 rebate that canon recently put out so nows the time to buy.
Posted: Mon, 18th Dec 2006, 1:45pm

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Orin Warren

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I use a sony handycam, It's not as good as the others, but it's good enough for a first timer. I'm planning later in the future to get a better on when I get better in film.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 7:05am

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Goldwing Productions

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i use a DVX100b