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Superman Returns~ <SPOILERS> Clips,Trailers,Ect.

Your Views On "Superman Returns" Thus Far?

• It's gona rock my world!12%[ 4 ]
• Its gona be pretty cool48%[ 16 ]
• Meh just another super-hero movie21%[ 7 ]
• Not impressed18%[ 6 ]

Total Votes : 33

Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 1:00am

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Rating: +2



Official Trailer
Quick Time Small :
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/small.html
Quick Time Medium
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/medium.html
Quick Time High :
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/large.html


Teaser Trailer
Quick Time Small :
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer1/small.html
Quick Time Medium :
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer1/medium.html
Quick Time High :
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer1/large.html

Australian Coke TV Spot:
http://www.brandonrouth.com/2006/04/new-australian-sr-commercial.html

International TV Spot 1:
http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/tvspots/tvspot1_500.mov

Official Movie Clips: <WARNING : Spoilers>
Do you know the story of Prometheus?
Windows
Quicktime

I Thought I Would Never See You Again
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Quicktime

Lois Lane is A Mommy
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Quicktime

Unidentified Bogey
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Quicktime

Airplane Rescue
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Quicktime

Superman Returns
Windows
Quicktime

Were you in love with him?
Windows
Quicktime

I love that he can see through anything
Windows
Quicktime

Where did you go?
Windows
Quicktime

Lois, will you come with me?
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Quicktime

This just came through the fax
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Quicktime

IMAX Featurette
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Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 1:07am

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That looks a little bit pretty.

But it doesnt change the fact that Nightcast>Superman.

wink Nice find though.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 1:17am

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Ooooo sounds like a face-off to me :p
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 1:18am

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actually, after seeing that i think the effects in ightcast will be better... cant say those were spectacular, Great find though!
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 10:09am

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That looked very much like a videogame, so I'll hope they'll do something with the effects before it's finished. Anyway, it looks exciting.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 12:14pm

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I have to agree with Redhawk. Looked very videogamish - if that's a word. I'm not much impressed really.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 12:48pm

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I'm not overkeen myself. The teaser trailer had some far more impressive cinematography, this seemed very 'video gamey' and had an oddly artificial quality to it. Smashing through the window in particular looked rather 'set up'.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 12:55pm

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If there *was* a fight between Nightcast and Superman, Nightcast would clearly win. He's far more leet.

Nightcast ftw!
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 12:57pm

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Nightcast and Batman, though. That's a tough one.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 7:06pm

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Let me clear this up.... NIghtcast, Superman, and even Batman would get their asses kicked by 1 man...... CHUCK NORRIS!
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 7:34pm

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djconspiracy wrote:

CHUCK NORRIS!
http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/Young_Chuck_Norris_50568.html

A man like Norris never dies. He lives forever in children's eyes...

This video also parodies somewhat this much more disturbing video apparently directed by Rob Bowman of X-Files and Elektra fame:

http://www.americawestandasone.com/awsao.html

Both are hilarious but for different reasons.

The Supes clip is pretty bad. So was the trailer. The whole Jesus Christ analogy and the Marlon Brando recycling rubbed me the wrong way. I am not planning on seeing it. And now that the second trailer is out, it achieved its goal: I am DEFINITELY not going... Ouch! Miscasting, corny lines, bad effects and Kevin Spacey chewing the scenery like a lunatic on crack... No thanks!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 8:17pm

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I'm not even going to watch the second trailer. I just ate and I don't wanna ruin my new keyboard! wink
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 8:51pm

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It was cool, but there's something off about it that I can't put my finger on. I feel like there's a hidden swastika in there or something.....
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 8:52pm

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I agree that a lot of it was bad. The plot was revealed quite a bit, and doesn't appeal too much (kid storyline smacks a bit of Mummy Returns). I'm not religious but I thought the Christ storyline in the original was nice and understated, really well done in the dialogue between Supes' father and mother on Krypton. Seems overstated in the trailer though, and I agree that's offputting. Jimmy Olsen was annoying too, as was the one liners. Effects in general looked good, APART from the plane sequence, which made me think of the Matrix for some reason (probably because it was the standard of the flying scenes in Revolutions). But I'm a big Superman (1 & 2 and Smallville anyway) fan, so I'll go see it.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 9:15pm

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X3i could beat up Superman... unsure
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 9:16pm

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Lets just all agree that any character from any FXHome movie could beat up Superman.

Except Gizmondobot. That guy's a pussy
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 9:30pm

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kid storyline smacks a bit of Mummy Returns)
Ohhhh, then it could be brilliant. I love Mummy Returns! smile


The Trailer didn't really made me wanna see the film as much as I hoped it would, shame. In fact, I prefer the Trailer 1 a LOT.
Still I'm 1000000 times more excited to see X-Men 3. Hmmm.. I'll go see it anyways.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 9:39pm

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Heh heh. I really like The Mummy and Deep Rising but wasn't a big fan of Returns so much because of said kid (as you might gather) razz
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 9:40pm

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Deep Rising is brilliant. Hehe.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Kids should never be in movies anyways. Usually, the make things worse. smile
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 9:43pm

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Rating: +1

Unless the new movie involves this plot in some way....



... I'm really not interested.

Cheers,
Arktic.
Posted: Tue, 2nd May 2006, 11:22pm

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Good Lord! Pat Boone!?!?! I thought it was great when he did Paradise City by G'n R. tard

As far as the Supes movie goes, I think Brandon Routh is too young to play the role. For Superman to be "away so long" and he comes back looking as young as Jessica Simpson's ex-husband (who cares what his name is).

I do like Kevin Spacey in there.

I wonder if they'll dedicate the film to Christopher Reeve?
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 1:12am

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Just seen the new full trailer.

Interesting overall, but I don't know, I'd prefer to see five minutes of Spiderman 3 than the whole of this new Superman.

crazy
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 2:37am

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Sollthar wrote:

Yeah, I know what you mean. Kids should never be in movies anyways. Usually, the make things worse. smile
What if they see dead people? smile
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 8:05am

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I really, really like this trailer. It's great fun, has the same lightness of touch that was in Spider-Man 3. I hope the film itself has the same feel and approach. Kevin Spacey looks really goo--WRONG!!
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 8:31am

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Alright a moderator merged my Superman threads regardless of them being about two different clips, whatever all good.

In anycase ill post this AGAIN...



Quick Time Small :
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/small.html

Quick Time Medium : http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/medium.html

Quick Time High :
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/large.html
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And I'll say what I did again!


I hate Superman, always have, but I think this movie looks tops
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 8:48am

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I like the trailer, well the 2nd half of it anyway. There seems to be too much given away maybe but I think it'll be a lot of fun as Superman should be.
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 8:52am

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I never liked superman as a kid i was a Batman boy.

I thought superman was over powerd stupidly dressed and kinda gay.

And im going to say it... i wasnt a fan of the Christopher Reeves movies... He did a great job of acting as the character, i just didnt like how camp the whole movie was made.

But this is a new superman, he's not as powerful as we remember due to several convienently placed plot divices.

He's still awesome, he flys he shoots lazers hes bullet proof... but hes also a freaking alien... he has to make sure he dosent get found out.. this is his main problem, he has to masquerade as clark while being bound to maintaining the human race and living in a time where shit can hit the fan at a global scale at any moment... thats a pretty big job.

(The maps in the daily planet clearly show gotham city, which is humerous id be funny to see him fly though the gotham backdrop at some point :p)

Ever since starting work (as an extra) last year i was just blown away by my new found fondness to this super-hero.

Dont get me wrong... batman can and has kicked the crap out of superman (5 times , silly Superman shouldent have told bruce his one weakness)

Batman fan for life... but this movie is gona be good.
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 8:55am

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schwar wrote:

I like the trailer, well the 2nd half of it anyway. There seems to be too much given away maybe but I think it'll be a lot of fun as Superman should be.
Alot of told but then again alot has to be, there are huge elements of the movie that not even the geek boys on the Official forums has picked up on.

Also this is Byran Singer, Director of the X-Men Movie franchise (not X-3 though he refused to put up with hallie berry) theres no way this is a one off...

the problems faced in this movie will lead up to a greater struggle in the 2nd and 3rd inevitable films.

(pardon my spelling its very very late here)
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X1 was ok, X2 was great so I hope Singer made the right move to Superman. I also hope X3 won't suffer too much from not having Singer at the helm.
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 2:24pm

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Arktic wrote:

Unless the new movie involves this plot in some way....



... I'm really not interested.

Cheers,
Arktic.
clap BWAHAHHA!

Yeah- I was "around" to see Pat Boone's melt-down as a punk rocker with the leather and spikes!

I agree- Pat Boon needs to be in there crooning to Supe at least somewhere even if it's just the opening credits!

That was just too funny!
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schwar wrote:

X1 was ok, X2 was great so I hope Singer made the right move to Superman. I also hope X3 won't suffer too much from not having Singer at the helm.
Yeah ditto, im not kidding when i say that his MAIN reason was that he was unhappy with Actor Demands.

Hallie berry DEMANDED a bigger part and a new look. Singer saw implementign these changes as sendign the X-Men trilogy the way of the Batman Saga.... Down comershalism creek with out a paddle.

He refused, however the 3 movie deal still standing Brett Ratner was swung in.
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I imagine Singer switched more because he got a bigger paycheck and is more excited about restarting the Superman franchise than doing a third sequel in a series.
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 5:15pm

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Tarn wrote:

I imagine Singer switched more because he got a bigger paycheck and is more excited about restarting the Superman franchise than doing a third sequel in a series.
Naaa, he woudl have simply pushed SM back... he was exited as ever about X-3...

You have to remember Bryan Singer is jewish, gay, adopted and god knows what else... He isnt a minority, he is THE minority razz he talked publicly about growing up feeling like an outsider and that it ment alot to him to Direct a movie about people experiancing such emotions...

He had however had issues with production, and the actors giving him issues constantly was.... not helping...

Hallie berrys demands were the final straw.
Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006, 6:25pm

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This was a bit worrying to me though, it looks like un-finished animation or a renderd animatic.

These are actual frames from the trailer as they appear.



A bit strange, the acward landing angle in Frame 2. It looks like the default post for models in Max or Poser.

kinda wierd im sure they will fix it.
Posted: Thu, 4th May 2006, 1:29am

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I don't know why everyone's hating on this movie so much. It's a Bryan Singer movie (Looooove X2), it appears to have some inch of original story, Metropolis looks very old-school and authentic, it's (for the most part) well-cast, and it just plain looks cool. Sure, it's not as cool as
Wolverine tearing someone to peices, but it's also from a different time, and reminiscent of the first film. I think the trailer (with the exception of the happy Supermanny music when he says "I have advanced......alien technology!") is pretty well done and incredibly cool and Superman-feely. Reminded me of how much I wanted them to make a Smallville, coming-of-age, movie.


I'll see it. And X3. What about Mi:III, though, y'all? Nobody wants to hate on Mr. KWAYZEE? Ah, whatever, I still think SR is gonna rock y'alls pants.
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Yeah, I agree -

Bryan Singer + Superman = Good

I hope. I'm a fan of Superman in general, so the "videogamey" effects didn't bother me all that much. I'm just glad to see Superman back in fullfledged glory after seeing Tom Welling play Clark Kent in Smallville for 5 years.
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While I'm not blown away by the trailer, I'm happy that we're getting a faithful Superman film.

I'd rather Singer emulate the Donner film and it's sequel than the horrendous revisionism originally planned.

Anyone who's watched "An Evening With Kevin Smith" or read this link will have an idea of just how bad it could have been...
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Hi!

Here's a link to the International Trailer for Superman. I think it works out quite a bit better than the previous version.

Mantra

http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbol/uk/movies/supermanreturns/superman_returns_tlrf3_qt_500.mov
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That trailer is a whole helluva lot better.
Posted: Mon, 22nd May 2006, 9:58pm

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Looks fun, I just don't like superman too much.

*superman puts his glasses on*

Man: Oh my god who is that with superman's costume on?

*superman takes off the glasses*

Man: Hey look it's superman!

*superman puts his glasses on*

Man: Hey it's that guy with the superman costume again!

^^
That's ridiculous... I mean is it really possible to put on glassses and completely change your identity?
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Rating: +1

They're pretty big glasses.
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its not so much that people don’t know, its more that LOUIS doesn’t know...

everyone else just sees him for like 3 seconds as he flies by or in a news paper..

but I mean its the same with celebrities... now and then ill see some one and go... whoa that looks like <famous name here> but then think nothing more of it...

Louis has known Clark for years and knows he’s a looser... she’s blinded by this...

I'm guessing...

I never liked superman either, I'm a batman person myself... but don’t denies its greatness just because you cant see the plausibility of it...

I like batman, but on the other hand he is a billionaire who after 40 years hasn’t moved on from his parents death so he hurtles around in a sports car, wearing tights, bashing up clowns with a 14 year old boy.

And I still like batman… I'm willing to overlook the implausibility’s in superman in order to enjoy it.
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SyroVision wrote:

its not so much that people don’t know, its more that LOUIS doesn’t know...
Louis? Has there been some form of gay re-invention of the Superman lore without me noticing? I mean, I know it's a Bryan Singer film, but still.....
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Tarn wrote:

SyroVision wrote:

its not so much that people don’t know, its more that LOUIS doesn’t know...
Louis? Has there been some form of gay re-invention of the Superman lore without me noticing? I mean, I know it's a Bryan Singer film, but still.....
well no one knows clark is superman, what i was saying is that it isnt that unplausable that people in the street dont knowtess

the unplausable thing is that louis dosent figgure it out
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Spiderman is actually really understandable since Peter Praker is just a "Kid" and has difficulty doing both at the same time.
Superman is cool just not as cool
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Superman is potentially a very interesting character thematically. Given that he stands for "Truth, Justice and the American Way", there's lots to examine there potentially - particularly given his apparent absence from Earth. On his return, will he find that truth, justice and the American way are the same as when he left? Do they still all go hand-in-hand? How do you identify truth and justice, and does Superman have the right to be judge and jury?

Of course, I doubt a mainstream summer popcorn flick will examine such interesting political issues, but there you go. smile
Posted: Tue, 23rd May 2006, 12:03pm

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FFS syrovision: its "lois". Louis is a man's name.
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Xcession wrote:

FFS syrovision: its "lois". Louis is a man's name.
So it is.... lol pardon, my bad.
Posted: Tue, 23rd May 2006, 6:57pm

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Wait a minute, super-who? wink
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Tarn wrote:

Of course, I doubt a mainstream summer popcorn flick will examine such interesting political issues, but there you go. smile
I agree good post, i did notice that they dont say "Truth, Justuce and the American way" at any point. We hear "truth justice and all that stuff"
thats kinda political i guess.
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TV Spot

http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/tvspots/tvspot4_500.mov

Some new footage...
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NEW DYNAMIC TRAILER SHOWN BEFORE X-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDJSQNlIn4k

This trailer is 8,000 x better than Xen 3
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Interview with John Ottman... the composer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pYJL3sWJ6I
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I liked both trailers, each had a different feel, and by any means, it should be a good night at the movies! biggrin


-the new godather
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Movie Posters....

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=18892
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This shot was taken from one of the trailers, notice the "S" looks a bit out of sync colour wise, this is because it was shot before the Superman Suit was shown publicly and since the shot was filmed in public location they had Brandin rip open the shirt with a blank blue spandex shirt underneath.

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11 MOVIE CLIPS < MASSIVE SPOILERS >

http://www.iesb.net/warnerbros2006/061306.php

OR check first page for direct links.

Official Movie Clips: <WARNING : Spoilers>
Do you know the story of Prometheus?
Windows
Quicktime

I Thought I Would Never See You Again
Windows
Quicktime

Lois Lane is A Mommy
Windows
Quicktime

Unidentified Bogey
Windows
Quicktime

Airplane Rescue
Windows
Quicktime

Superman Returns
Windows
Quicktime

Were you in love with him?
Windows
Quicktime

I love that he can see through anything
Windows
Quicktime

Where did you go?
Windows
Quicktime

Lois, will you come with me?
Windows
Quicktime

This just came through the fax
Windows
Quicktime

IMAX Featurette
Windows
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TV SPOT 13:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Mc0vjAvPM
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I work as a PA to film at framestores-cfc, who were responisble for over 200 effects shots on the new superman film. Belive me when I say that the visual effects in this film are fantastic. I can't say anything about the storyline but it's going to be a great film.
Look to the skies boys n gals......cos superman returns.
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i CAN'T WAIT...I'D LIKE TO RECREATE THE FLYING EFFECT....This will be a challenge that I would like 2 do
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New Super-man Trailer on Apple.

Apple just added this new trailer for the movie. I can't wait.


Film Freak
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Rating: +1

Streaming version of the score here (legal):
Superman Returns Score

Nice use of Williams' orginal themes, and some very epic choral work. Can't wait to hear it in a good cinema.

The film is getting some very positive reviews too. Genuinely looking forward to this now....

Rotten Tomatoes Reviews
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Wow, brilliant find Alex! This'll keep me happy all afternoon. smile
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Awesome find! Listening to it now and so far it's pretty cool.
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I cant wait! thats an awesome theme!

Honestly best Themesongs:

*Indiana Jones
*Superman
*Star Wars

awesome stuff...

I CANT WAIT GUYS! i have the premier on Tuesday at 6pm, red carpet and all for the extras, its gona rock ill be at work all wed but thursday or friday i can post photos of the event!

CANT WAIT!
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Get a pic of Brandon Routh holding an FXhome sign. wink
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HAH! Hell all i can say is "Ill try" ... but id be lieing LOL

Ill be happy to just get see my as a lovely background blur! hehe

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http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23420
You can win a prize. smile
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man... my agent is gona be there, if i rock up with a product placement sign and ask for a photo not only will i prolly get droped but brandon would prolly say no , since he dosent know what hes/he'd be endorcing
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Rating: +1

but at least you'll still get a prize
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That's why everyone needs an FXhome t-shirt/hat/BBQ apron, so they can have FXhome in the photos without having to annoy or worry anyone. smile
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Tarn wrote:

That's why everyone needs an FXhome t-shirt/hat/BBQ apron, so they can have FXhome in the photos without having to annoy or worry anyone. smile
Well then if the picture is used for advertising FXHome, which I assume is the point, then you'll get in trouble and get sued for not getting their consent.
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Evman wrote:

Tarn wrote:

That's why everyone needs an FXhome t-shirt/hat/BBQ apron, so they can have FXhome in the photos without having to annoy or worry anyone. smile
Well then if the picture is used for advertising FXHome, which I assume is the point, then you'll get in trouble and get sued for not getting their consent.
Not necessarily. If you are taking a posed photo with Sylvester Stallone, and YOU are the one wearing the FXHome shirt, this is not really advertising on Sly's part. If I was with Sly in the picture and I was the one with a Nike shirt, that in no way means that Sly endorses Nike.

And the only ones who really could sue in the scenario you stated is FXHome. But they are the ones promoting this "advertising".

And even if Sly could sue, no judge would see any damages or slander in a "promotional" picture of a special effects software. I could see if you were wearing a shirt promoting child pornography, but not FX Products.
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Regardles im not wearing a FX Home T Shirt to a Black Tie Red Carpet.

HOWEVER! i would be tempted if one arived free of charge.
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Get Brandon to wear an FXHome shirt under his tuxedo jacket, and have him open his chest up revealing the logo mrgreen
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Garrison wrote:

Get Brandon to wear an FXHome shirt under his tuxedo jacket, and have him open his chest up revealing the logo mrgreen
Hehe, I think just about any company would do anything to get that as a commercial. smile
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Tarn wrote:

Garrison wrote:

Get Brandon to wear an FXHome shirt under his tuxedo jacket, and have him open his chest up revealing the logo mrgreen
Hehe, I think just about any company would do anything to get that as a commercial. smile
Wouldn't that be just the best feeling for you guys if like someone here was a relative of Brandon, and was able to persuade him and his agent to do something like that? Superman theme and all?

That would be the coolest!
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Well, it seems to me that if it was going to be used for promotional material, the whole point would be:

"Look, Brandon Routh likes FXHome!"

Not

"Some guy standing next to Brandon Routh likes FXhome!"


The second option wouldn't necessarily sell more FX products.
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Evman wrote:

Well, it seems to me that if it was going to be used for promotional material, the whole point would be:

"Look, Brandon Routh likes FXHome!"

Not

"Some guy standing next to Brandon Routh likes FXhome!"


The second option wouldn't necessarily sell more FX products.
Don't get me wrong Ev, Brandon would be foolish if he did take a standing pose with someone advertising something on their shirt, and Brandon NOT knowing what that brand is.

I'm just saying that what you stated a few posts earlier is not indicative of a lawsuit.
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It's cool.

I don't think Syrovision plans on doing it anyway, so no big deal.



Back to the thread itself, I'm getting really pumped about this movie. I guess its cause it's summer and I have nothing else to do, and my boyish love for Superman is resurfacing. This movie will rock.

I just saw The Usual Suspects last night (another Bryan Singer film, if you didn't know) and I loved the movie. It reaffirmed my liking for Singer. He's a great director.
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Evman wrote:

Well, it seems to me that if it was going to be used for promotional material, the whole point would be:

"Look, Brandon Routh likes FXHome!"

Not

"Some guy standing next to Brandon Routh likes FXhome!"


The second option wouldn't necessarily sell more FX products.
Indeed, if something like that was going to be used for promotional material, you'd be right. Plastering it on an advert and misrepresenting it to make it look like Routh specifically likes FXhome would be highly unethical. Which is why we wouldn't ever even think of doing something like that.

The only reason we want to see cool pics like this is because it tweaks our geek gland. smile
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Evman wrote:

I'm getting really pumped about this movie.

I just saw The Usual Suspects last night (another Bryan Singer film, if you didn't know) and I loved the movie. It reaffirmed my liking for Singer. He's a great director.
I'll definitely see the movie...

A sequel is already announced...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001741/
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There will be one Superman movie made for every Spiderman Movie made.

There are 7 planed Spiderman Movies.
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Yes... YES!! I'm going to the 10:00 special showing tomorrow! I cannot wait for this...
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I just watched Super Man 1 and 2 (both of which I had never seen before) because I hear that Superman returns is the sequel to those movies, not 3 or 4 though. Anyway, the second superman was the bomb, and got me really excited for Returns tonight.
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You'd never seen Superman 1? What!?

Superman 1 is a superb film - the first half in particular. I'm not overkeen on the 'comedy' villains or the silly world-turning bit, but otherwise it's remarkable.

Superman 2, on the other hand, felt a bit cheap to me and rather messy, probably due to them firing Richard Donner like chumps.
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call me a fool if you will (and I somehow think that is the first thing you will tell me is that I am one the next time I enter the chat room), but Superman 1 didn't work that much for me. I thought Hackman was great as Luthor, and I agree I loved the first hour or so, but I felt it was a bit strung out, and even though I am a man of practical special effects, this was one of the first times I felt like the horrible effects hindered down upon the film majorly. And for whatever reason, the 2nd one worked for me very well.

You also have to understand, before I saw the trailer for Superman Returns, I completely ignored the franchise. Thanks to the new movie coming out (and the fact that every marvel movie, save xmen 1 & 2, sucked or at best were pretty meh), I began investigating into the whole superman thing that I missed out on, and I rather like it to be honest.
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I'm most annoyed! mad
We don't get Superman returns in the U.K 'till the 14th July!

Damn you Warner bros. Damn you to hell!
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It's tomorrow.

That is good.
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Waser wrote:

I felt like the horrible effects hindered down upon the film majorly.
That's why there HAS to be a story in lieu of great effects! biggrin They were practically inventing those effects at the time as something like that had never been done before. My we have come a long way. The effects still work for me, and I like the first half of the film as well. It had a great build to what was too come.

Kind of like Batman Returns. We don't see Batman for awhile in that film.

And if you thought Superman 1 had some campy moments (which it did) Mario Puzo version when he first wrote it had Telly Savalas (Kojak) looking up at Superman flying saying "Who loves ya baby?"

Waser wrote:

And for whatever reason, the 2nd one worked for me very well.
Don't see 3 and 4. You'll probably end up slitting your wrists....
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Don't worry, I'm taking the Bryan Singer approach to 3 and 4. They don't exist
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Great topic by the way, just read it all the way through. I guess I'm the first one to give SyroVision a +1 for it. smile

The movie probably premieres later here than it does in the US..I'll get back with my review when I've seen it! smile
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Woo! First one to make a review!

- It is easily the best super hero movie made

I'm freakin tired so that's all I have to say

'night
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Just got back from seein it..

I cant believe it either but this is at the top of my superhero/comicbook movies... THIS is how a comic should be done.

Amazing...

10/10

5/5

2.37/2.37

pick 1
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Hey, just came from the SPECIAL showing of superman, GREAT MOVIE , brian singer pulled it throught , also has a great twist in it.
But better than superman was the trailer for SPIDER-MAN 3.
Thats going to be the best movie in a long time, out doing anything put out this year. biggrin
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This movie was awesome. A couple things bugged me, but they aren't really worth mentioning, because this was so awesome. I loved the easter eggs. (The model train town that was named "Smallville"- Clark's hometown, the original Jimmy as the bartender, the original Lois as Gertrude, so on and so on)

I thought the effects, especially on the flying bits, where almost revolutionary, I was guessing the whole time how they'd done it in certain scenes.

I also loved the comedic relief that Jimmy played, and the small jokes like:
"Remember what my father always used to tell me..."

"Lex, you're going bald?"

"Not that, the other one"

"Get out?"

Well, I guess you had to be there for some of them. wink

However, I disagree with G man. The Spiderman 3 teaser, with the exception of the last shot, looked cheesy and uninspired, as if it could've been made by anyone for any movie. If I didn't know anything about Spiderman, I'd have a greater aversion after watching the trailer.

Altogether, Superman Returns was brilliant. Better than X-Men 3, better than The Da Vinci Code, and a little better than M:I 3. The first X-Men movie is still my favorite comic book movie, but Bryan Singer proves yet again how great a movie he can make.

1,000,000,000,000,000/10
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Superman Returns was awesome, plain and simple. Then again, my taste is horrible.
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It is probably my favorite movie now

The comic releif by Kitty was just halarious and the little gags they put in. Like when the nurse tries to stick an IV in superman the needle bends.

Brian Singer completely respected and kept all the things the past superman movies(1 and 2) had set. He didn't do anything stupid and this movie has set the standard of how to make a superhero movie.

[EDIT: Hey Roger Ebert go to hell(gave it two stars psh)]
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Most dissappointing movie of the year for me.

Most likely because I was really really really hoping for it to be great, and it wasn't. X-men 3 is perhaps the biggest let down for most people, but I wasn't looking forward to that nearly as much.

I can't really describe my gripe with Superman Returns. I really wanted to see it, and I was expecting it to excellent.

I guess my biggest problem with the movie really comes down to one thing.

I saw this film with 4 other people. We all came out of the movie with a general concensus that something was wrong with the movie, but none of us could place it. I finally realized, by finding out what had worked, what didn't.

What bothered me wasn't the story. I thought the idea itself was brilliant and fine. The Lois/Superman love story was a fabulous idea. It wasn't the acting either. The three main characters, Routh's Superman, Spacey's Lex, and Bosworth's Lois were all very very strong, with some very great side characters filling out the narrative. It definately wasn't the effects or the action - these were all spectacular, and the flying was simply aweinspiring. I felt amazed after he caught the plane and the entire ending was incredible...

So then, if all the pieces work... why doesn't the film?

The answer is simple - Pace.

It's ashame really, that this movie fell apart so late in the game. All the ingredients were fantastic and seemed like they took a long time to prepare and get just right, but the final cake just feels like Singer threw his masterpieces into a blender, pressed the start button, and walked away. The editing killed this film. The pauses between exciting/great things were far too long, and I felt myself checking my watch far too often. It doesn't help that the film's most spectacular set piece, the 777 crash was so early in the movie. It made everything else seem boring.

That leads me to another point - the action in the middle of the movie seems extremely tacked on. The bank robbery? What was that about?

Another minor gripe with the movie's end in particular is sheer impossibility. SPOILERS- How could Superman possibly lift that entire continent INTO SPACE if it was made out of kryptonite? How did he die and then come back to life? How come they can't stick a needle in him when he's infected with kryptonite, but lex luthor can stab him in the back?

I really really wanted to like this movie. I was really excited about it.

It kinda hurts a little to me that I know i'll buy the DVD and skip through most of it to get to certain scenes I like... then shelf it and maybe watch the whole thing again when I'm really bored.

Could have been a classic, but fell apart apparently late in production, and became... good. Less than Singer's usual work.

6.5/10
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Evman, I think Lex could stab him in the back because he was crawling around on where TONS of exposed Kryptonite was, whereas the doctor's tried to stick the needle in him AFTER they'd gotten the little piece of Kryptonite out.

He could lift up the whole rock of Kryptonite simply because he was using ALL of his life force to do so. He withstood the effects of the evil green rock, if you will, until he just had to let go and fall, pretty much dying from exhaustion.

I'll agree with you on the pacing. It seemed as if most of the movie something was being led up to, but when it happened, there really wasn't a huge showdown of any kind, and nothing really happened.

Superman arrives, Lex stabs Superman, Lois and family save Superman, Superman lifts the rock as Lex leaves. Not much person-to-person conflict, which is what it seemed like they were building up to with all that "I'll get Superman!!!" stuff from Lex.

Also, I was a little disappointed that James Marsden (Lois' husband) didn't die. I dunno, I was kind of expecting him to, which would put Superman at even worse odds at being able to hook up with Lois.
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Evman, I think Lex could stab him in the back because he was crawling around on where TONS of exposed Kryptonite was, whereas the doctor's tried to stick the needle in him AFTER they'd gotten the little piece of Kryptonite out.
Then why was he even weak in the first place, if the kryptonite was taken out? I was under the impression that small fragments were left in the wound, which should weaken him enough to jab him with a needle.

Well, the impossibility bits didn't bother me as much as the pacing did.

I must say James Marsden's character was perhaps the most interesting out of all the characters. He's basically Superman without the powers, and he has to compete with someone who's essentially perfect.

Another little problem I forgot to mention in my initial review -

This movie isn't fun. Sure its fun to watch the 777 catch and some other select scenes, but honestly, I was more bored than entertained. The movie wasn't fun in the way that the original SM movies were, or how the Spiderman movies are, but not serious enough to be up to the level of Batman Begins.

As far as superhero movies go, I was waiting to put this at the top of my list, but as it is now it's far from it. With Spiderman2 and Batman Begins taking top billing (I still can't decide which I like more), X-Men 2 coming in at second.

But hey, at least its better than The Hulk, Daredevil, or the Fantastic Four.

I guess we could all just throw up our hands and declare The Incredibles the best superhero movie ever made.
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Evman wrote:

But hey, at least its better than The Hulk, Daredevil, or the Fantastic Four.
Did you see Fantastic Four?


That alone makes it awesome.
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MAJOR SPOILERS: DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE FILM!!!

I was also HUGELY disappointed.

Pacing was way off. Editing was terrible. Some effects were bad - although for the most part, they did an amazing job on that front.

The story is ludicrous.

And for a bunch of Pulitzer winning, top notch investigative reporters, I wonder how they manage to find their way to their office everyday if they can't add up 2+2: Clark returns, so does Superman. The same day. Surely by now somebody had noticed all those coincidences with Clark and Supes... But no. Those glasses are hypnotic I guess. The only one that comes close was Mardsen and he barely knows the guy!

Mardsen did a great job in a thankless role. Routh was impressive and somehow channeled some of Reeves charm. Boseworth was pretty and pouted a lot, that was about it. Didn't buy her as a mother, a reporter or even a lover... She was bland. Spacey chewed the scenery for the cardboard that it was and embarrassed himself. Posey was good, no more no less.

And these idiots painted themselves in a corner: where do you go from there? Supes with his son sidekick?

I mean come on! Plenty of missed opportunities:

Kill Mardsen in the boat while trying to save his family - tragic death, opens door for Supes to come back in their lives... Dramatic as hell, not a dry eye in the house, the guy is such a hero... Put things in perspective for Supes who abandonned his lover (Lois)... He learns something more about responsabilities...

OR

Kill Supes after his last feat. Kid was lookign at the suit in the hospital. Takes the mantle later. That put a new twist to the title: Superman Returns...

But no...

Same old, crappy Hollywood bittersweet happy ending...

Yawn. Kill me now.
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JohnCarter wrote:

Kill Mardsen in the boat while trying to save his family - tragic death, opens door for Supes to come back in their lives... Dramatic as hell, not a dry eye in the house, the guy is such a hero... Put things in perspective for Supes who abandonned his lover (Lois)... He learns something more about responsabilities...
I was expecting/dreading this, and when it didn't happen, I was happy Marsden didn't die, but unhappy that it was sort of a 'nothing' conclusion.

The Smallville episode where Clark dies and comes back to life in the hospital is a thousand times better than the similar scene from Superman Returns.
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I was expecting/dreading this, and when it didn't happen, I was happy Marsden didn't die, but unhappy that it was sort of a 'nothing' conclusion.
I agree it would have been sad but the movie would stand on something at the end... I repeat: where do we go from there? She'll divorce Mardsen down the road when the kid starts flying in the living room? He already suspects she had an affair with Supes. He desperately loves her - was very well acted by him that part, better than her - and he'd do anything for her. The only way out for a character that was built as such a lovable guy is death. Otherwise, the audience will hate her down the road. Not a smart move. And what can they do with the kid? It almost feels like he only exists to provide her an exit when she was threatened by the thug. Period. Singer and his screenwriters need to go back to scriptwriting 101. They killed their own franchise first time at bat...
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Well it seems this movie is like War of the Worlds.. You like or you don't

I personally loved it
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For the most part, I enjoyed it. I think Routh played the part very well, and the complication of Lois' fiancee was good. I'm thinking 4/5.

But I left the movie feeling a little indifferent about it, mainly to do with some story issues.

1. It breaks my suspension of disbelief to bring both Clark and Superman back on the same day and nobody thinks twice!

2. The kryptonite stuff didn't seem that consistent to me. Superman gets beaten up and can't escape while just standing on the krypton-continent-rock, with small traces of kryptonite nearby, and yet he can lift the whole thing into space, with apparently much larger pieces of kryptonite sticking out right near him?

3. As others have mentioned, I felt that the movie was a bit slow in certain parts, like it was dragging the story on.

4. More of a general Superman movie issue, I'm getting tired of there only being the one bad guy and only one way to hurt/kill Superman. Maybe they can't really change the kryptonite achilles heel thing, but at least throw in some more variation of bad guys. This is one reason why I prefer the Spiderman & Batman characters & stories.
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JohnCarter wrote:

The only way out for a character that was built as such a lovable guy is death. Otherwise, the audience will hate her down the road. Not a smart move. And what can they do with the kid?
I haven't even seen the movie (and I don't mind spoilers - Well, in this case I don't). But I agree with Mardsen needing to die. I can see the audience hating Lois eventually from a story standpoint.

The kid being Superman's baby is just befuddling to me. It sounds like it will get campy like the Superman comics back in the day... Krytpo the Superdog kind of thing.

From a character standpoint, if they killed Mardsen, then it would be better seeing Superman deal with being a step-father to Mardsen's kid.
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The kryptonite was done in a very believable, logical way, and I don't see why some people haven't picked up on this. When Superman makes his way to the island, he sets afoot a Kryptonite-incrusted rock fortress. It's not just Kryptonite. When you get that naseuous feeling from being around something, if it isn't that bad at first, what do you do? You try and pass it, not think about it, and hope it goes away. Many people ask the question as to how he was able to lift the whole rock mass, call it all Kryptonite. It seemed pretty obvious to me, three things that clearly explain how he was able to do this.

1.) The first time he was around the island, he was much more susceptible to pain and weakness because was struck with pure Kryptonite, and had let it settle around him on the island by walking amongst it and falling into it, weakening him slowly and then drastically. That was clear. He derives his power from the sun, ergo, he makes his way atop the clouds to "recharge". He hadn't done this before, so obviously he is going to have more power, greater power, and less susceptibility to the island the second time around.

2.) The first time he slowly walked across the surface of the island. The second time, he shot down into the water at the speed of light, with his laserheat-vision pulverizing any Kryptonite or other substance in the way before it could affect him.

3.) He was going down, which obviously meant (and showed) that he wasn't just lifting the island, but rather, a large stretch of land beneath it, and part of the ocean floor itself. When he lifted it into the air, the shape of the mass was evident that a good portion of the mass wasn't[i] the island. I thought of this as Superman giving himself a 'buffer zone' between him and the Kryptonite. As he lifted it, he strained not only because it was Kryptonite uptop, but because it was HUGE and HEAVY. (Supermuscles or not, Superman still has to use [i]some ammount of force and energy in order to due what he does)
As he lifted it higher and higher, the movie went out of it's way to show the "V" shape of the ocean floor beneath the island fall apart and down back into the water. It is at this point that it truly begins to hurt Superman, not to mention he is weakened and exhausted from lifting such a large object. Even bodybuilders that press 300+ lbs have to rest.


And killing Marsden? Never!

He's the best, most redeeming character of it all, which puts up several points of why to keep him on. Don't have a sequel in-mind when going into a movie. Who cares how they would incorporate it into a second? Reasons Marsden should've and [b]did[b] live?

Here they are:


-Killing him would be a cliche of 'killing the redeeming character'

-Killing such a likeable character can put a negative tone onto the end of the movie

-From a sequel standpoint, why kill-off such a well-written, well-acted character? He's selfless and left outta the loop. Supes is selfless and in the loop. It's a perfect underlying tone of the movie.

-Killing him would be the easy way out of the end, and would make for a morbid-version "Happily Ever After!" If we didn't know it in the beginning, then by the end we know that Lois loves Supes, and we know that the boy is his, so with Marsden out of the picture, Superman has his life all back together again. The last scene shows it all, the love he has for his son, for Lois, it can't ever be with him because Marsden is still there, and has raised and loved Supes' son. Supes' can't just take the kid and Lois, because he's a good guy, and know Marsden loves them. This is his conflict, and it's the reason the movie is so great. It adds such a depth to him in the end. It's perfect.

Superman wants to get back with Lois. Yikes! Can't, she's got a kid. Kid's his? Okay, now what's in his way if Marsden died? Nothing. He has the perfect life back again.
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Admittedly, I have not seen the movie and am going off what all of you have written Atom, but I'm inclined to agree with John.

While killing Mardsen off could be seen as cliche, if they let Mardsen live (and if he is as good as you say in his acting and credibility), I would hate Lois because Mardsen was just a replacement until the bad boy (Supes) who left her and the kid came back.

Screwing nice guys like Mardsen... I don't know, I just don't see that helping the relationship between Lois and Supes.

And that kid being a superbaby? burst
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The whole thing of it is, that people are saying they would hate for Lois to leave such a good guy. Saying that, assumes that you aren't living in the moment of the film, but it's possible (and probable) sequels. Marsden could very well die in the second movie early-on (my bets are he will), but he stayed alive, and it is an apparent notion that Lois intends to stay with him and Superman doesn't intend to mess that up, even though it is his kid. They both love eachother, yeah, but both of them are good people and (only thinking about the first film, and no "but what if?"s) neither of them look as if they are going to screw Marsden and (for the moment) are leaving things as they are.

Screwing nice guys. How would he get screwed? There was no notion given that Superman and Lois would hook up. It was (cliche but) a "forbidden love" that both knew couldn't work out. Sure, people can say that in the end Lois and Supes will end up together, and that's why by not killing Marsden he'll end up getting screwed, but that causes the whole dillema. Without the dillema of Marsden in the end of 'Returns', Superman doesn't have any angst left, he doesn't have anything going against him, and ultimately it's an unrealistic, utopian-like idea for an ending.

Like I said, if you think my point is valid of how Marsden creates a necessary dillemma at the end, but you don't want him to get screwed in a sequel; just remember they'll probably have another 2.5 hours to kill him off valiantly in a sequel.
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I thought the movie was extremely so so.

I think what really made it that way is simply because there was no epic battle at all. It was just superman flying around saving people in the last second, every single time. It was too predictable. Also what they did with Lex Luther was pretty stupid to, there was no real confrontation between him and superman, except for that one, and it was just nothing. Basically the whole movie was completely went completely without any emotions for me.
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What kind of confrontation did you expect?

You've got a bald, middle-aged man and

You've got Superman. There's not much of an epic battle that's even possible, other than the way they did it. The only way one could see such a clashing of good and evil is with General Zod, and Lex Luthor is a villain with so much more tyranny and menace.
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^ I have no idea, but they should at least had something climactic.