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Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 12:59pm

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... Just got home from a night shoot in North London on a production called The Flood. Anyways, driving back after an early wrap and a squad car decides to pull me over. Within seconds I’ve got five coppers around my car and they are asking me to get on the pavement now! I obviously do what they say.

Straight away, bam.

’What you doing driving at this hour son?’

’Just driving home from work’

’Where do you work?’

’Just been working on a nightshoot for a production called....’

’You been drinking?

’.No. Not at all’

’Smoking, definetely smoking.’

*two coppers kind of get into my car and both agree it smells of smoke, they also find anti-inflammatories, proplus, cold relief pills, alcohol and a sweet packet that has broken open, so what appears to be to them ’coke’ is all over the car*

I quickly explain why I have all the drugs and the rest of that stuff.

’Don’t get smart with us!’

’I’m not getting smart? I’m explaining why there is sugar on my car floor’

’Sugar is it? Drank too much tonight have we?’

’No. Would you like to see a callsheet?’

I go to approach the boot of my car, they push me back and open it for me, finding a first aid box and a toolbox.

’Son, do you realise your eyes are completely bloodshot’

’Yeah, I’ve just been pulled over by five cops after a 14 hour day on a filmshoot, I suffer from hayfever and have a cold, I also have a sinus infection’

’Ohhh, got your story sorted haven’t we’

This continued, they searched my car and at one point I swear they were going to either rape me or plant something somewhere. I took a puff test and was completely clean. They warned me not to drink and drive or smoke drugs.

Think I’ll check my car this afternoon. And on the more serious note, it was very sad to think that was the police force of England.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 1:05pm

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Interesting stuff, and very disturbing. Wonder if there's anywhere you can make a complaint - nothing wrong with them pulling people over occasionally to do checks, but sounds like they way they treated you was very out of order. If you'd been a shy/nervous person it could really have shook you up quite badly.

Shame you didn't have your V mask on you. smile
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 1:14pm

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Yeah, the V mask or collection of balaclavas and guns would have been interesting.... maybe too interesting.

'Ooohhhhh, not tonight'
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 1:21pm

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Wow, that sounds very annoying...! I'm sorry for you. Seems like they have so little to do that they want you to have done something illegal.... Really sounds like the very last thing you needed that night.. tard

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Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 1:41pm

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Oeyvind wrote:

Seems like they have so little to do that they want you to have done something illegal.... Really sounds like the very last thing you needed that night.. tard
Yeah, exactly what I think about the police forces in Sweden.

Sorry for you, it really sounds annoying being pulled over like that.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 2:07pm

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It's funny, seems like the police can be funny late at night. I remember one time about a dozen police cars sawrmed around my friend who had just blown a tyre. they wouldn't help us change it, either, so we had to keep filling it up until we limped back to my parents' house for a working wheel spanner.

thank god none of them noticed the joint... twisted

In contrast, I shot in my university campus last Friday and the security guards couldn't have been more helpful. One of them even signalled the actors when to go, as they couldn't see or hear me from where I was standing (someone forgot the walkietalkies! mad )

He was chuffed at getting to say "Action!"
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 2:17pm

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You should ask for the search record. If they don't have reasonable grounds for stopping and searching you then they'll be in a lot of trouble and maybe think twice before picking on people in future.

Of course they may have thought you looked like a terrorist, in which case all your rights are null and void, and they can legally do pretty much anything they want to you.

My only encounter with the police was at the Reading festival. I was stopped because they thought I was stealing stuff from my own tent. They then wanted to know if I'd been smoking or doing drugs. So I told them I didn't ever drink, smoke or do drugs. Their reply was "Really?! So what do you do for fun!". Gotta love the old plod.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 2:48pm

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Well I laughed but I'm sure it wasn't a very funny experience but on the bright side you got your filming done. Hopefully that doesn't happen to you again. I have yet to have any run-ins with the police and hopefully it'll stay that way for awhile.

malone wrote:

So I told them I didn't ever drink, smoke or do drugs. Their reply was "Really?! So what do you do for fun!".
EAT CAKE!
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 3:10pm

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The police are crap. I contacted them saying I would be a witness to identify the attacker of an elderly woman (she's taking the assault to the crown court) and it's taken them TWO MONTHS to contact me back.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 3:37pm

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I gotta say my brushes with the law have always been quite pleasant. Of those in recent memory:

1. Driving back from liverpool at 3am with rest of band in a rented Rover. Everyone had been drinking and i was doing 92mph. Police pulled me over, i got out and went to their car. At this point my band realised our car was still rolling and dived for the handbrake! The 3 Police were inquisitive, asked if we did any Def Leppard covers (i claimed we "used to") then he gave me 3 points and suggested i stay under 85.

2. Driving back from a night out in another town at the pub, pulled over for failing to indicate when turning left into a road from a lane in which you can only turn left anyway (?!). Breathalised, had to use 3 different blower pipes coz apparently it wasn't working. Concluded i simply wasn't drunk, apologised to me then let me go.

And finally my favorite

3. Driving back from leicester at 9pm, doing 93 and overtook cop without noticing. Naturally, was pulled over but only given a 'producer' because a) the cop was alone and didn't have a witness cop in the car with him, b) he'd just been told he was now a father razz

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Xcession wrote:

3. Driving back from leicester at 9pm, doing 93 and overtook cop without noticing. Naturally, was pulled over and only given a 'producer' because a) the cop was alone and didn't have a witness cop in the car with him, b) he'd just been told he was now a father razz
Clearly he'd hear of your reputation and didn't want his child growing up without a daddy.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 4:03pm

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Conclusion from above posts: I wouldn't like to meet Xcession on the road. He's obviously a speed maniac.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 4:29pm

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Thank god you dont live in the USA if that would happen cause they would just take you all the way to jail then they would let you proove it.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 6:47pm

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hehehe, er-no

Where was the fake guns and army gear, that would have been all they needed to take you.

Lucky escape, shame you didn't film them. smile

"Have we been drinking son"

"er, wait there while I get my camera out"

Hmmm, maybe it's best you didn't film it.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 6:49pm

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b4uask30male wrote:

hehehe, er-no

Where was the fake guns and army gear, that would have been all they needed to take you.

Lucky escape, shame you didn't film them. smile

"Have we been drinking son"

"er, wait there while I get my camera out"

Hmmm, maybe it's best you didn't film it.
heh, actually Ian, the first thought that went through my head was, 'Ah crap, do I have any of the rifles in the boot?'

Luckily they popped it and there was just a toolbox and firstaid kit.

Heh, I've just realised there are lots of syringes in the front compartment, wonder how they missed them.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 6:56pm

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Well I find police are alright if you handle them the right way. You have to remember that they spend all night dealing with a bunch of nobbers who either are trying to get off what they did do or people who are just rude cos they didnt do anything wrong and feel harrassed.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 7:19pm

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JT9 wrote:

Thank god you dont live in the USA if that would happen cause they would just take you all the way to jail then they would let you proove it.
What? That's absurd.

I've only had one "bad" police experience... and it was when myself and three of my friends suffered from something known as "hunger." We headed out to fetch some grub, and as we were nearing our target venue, we passed through an intersection with a cop on one of the side roads. Seeing no other hapless Chevies to pick on, he latched onto us.

No biggie, thought I, We're almost there and we'll be safe and sound.

I started slowing down and making my turn into the parking lot. And then the lights came on. I pulled over and rolled down my window, and in a short time the officer was upon us, shining a flashlight into our faces.

"What are you guys doing?" asks he.

"We were just getting some food officer."

His response was the irritating part of my story, because it presumed that my three friends and myself were guilty of something that we were completely innocent of.

"Oh, I don't think so. I think you saw me and were trying to evade me." He said, as best as I can remember.

Then he got our ID's, whatnot... it was all rather irritating. We never did get our food. He sent us home. : /
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In the US you have far more statuatory rights than you do as an English citizen in regard to defending yourself from the police. In the US you can refuse a search of your car/home unless they have a warrant whereas over here you just have to let them do pretty much whatever.

I've had a few unpleasant experiences with the Police around London, and a few which counter those. The trick is that if you've done nothing wrong - to relax and do nothing to worsen the situation and at the end of it, politely request a log of the search/whatever.

The idea that you may know your rights and won't stand for any bs (and therefore more likely to question events through the legal system) is something that injects fear into the cop heart. razz

Ah well, England Prevails.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 7:32pm

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In the US you have far more statuatory rights than you do as an English citizen in regard to defending yourself from the police.
Although that does seem like its the case, i doubt thats true technically. The difference is compensation culture and a degree of unnecessary personal empowerment.

In America, its every citizens "god-given right" (read: tedious, bloody-minded belief) to excercise their rights at seemingly every juncture, whether that be unlawful arrests or buying a coffee.

In England, we epitomise the 'Stiff upper-lip' Brit, who accepts fate, doesn't rock the boat and grudgingly accepts everything but the most fragrantly unacceptable behaviour....including wrongful arrest.

I suspect if you were to actually demand everything to be done 'by the book' in a routine traffic stop in england, things would go quite differently. As it is though, police have grown to take a certain degree of unilateral behaviour for granted.
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In the US, I know there is allot more ammunition (the metaphorical kind) for a citizen to use against a Cop searching his or her car.

Though the comfort of driving without being searched is fading some what (god damn seat belt laws), we probably have it better in the US than allot of places.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 9:56pm

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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

In the US you have far more statuatory rights than you do as an English citizen in regard to defending yourself from the police. In the US you can refuse a search of your car/home unless they have a warrant whereas over here you just have to let them do pretty much whatever.
Thats rubbish. You need a warrant to enter a car/property here too. Of course they have the option to arrest you on suspision of something but its a bit daft to refuse a search unless you have something to hide.
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 10:07pm

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Kid wrote:

Thats rubbish. You need a warrant to enter a car/property here too. Of course they have the option to arrest you on suspision of something but its a bit daft to refuse a search unless you have something to hide.
I know its more fun just to make up what we think the rules are, but heres the official policies if anyone is interested

http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-publications/publication/operational-policing/PACE_Chapter_A.pdf
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They didn't have a warrent or ask me to search my car. A few of them just tucked right in.

The nutters.
Posted: Sat, 6th May 2006, 12:35am

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The rules for vehicles are different depending on if you are stopped in a vehicle or if its parked and locked.

As you can see from what malone posted, they have to suspect you of something before they can do anything. They have to say who they are and what station they're from and tell you the reason for the search. And you can object but then they can take you back to a van/police station and search you anyway.

It doesn't do them any good to be heavy handed or not do it properly cos then if they did find something then they'll get it for not following proper procedure.
Posted: Sat, 6th May 2006, 1:01am

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Waser wrote:

In the US, I know there is allot more ammunition (the metaphorical kind) for a citizen to use against a Cop searching his or her car.
Teehee, the litteral kind as well biggrin

Here, cops just wander around aimlessly and give out loads of speeding tickets (people here just looove to speed)... course, I live in the suburbs.
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Heh, nothing much else happens in CA.NA.DA!

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The only 'brush' I had with the law was after I had finished the voice acting on a very bad LEGO film of mine.

We had done it at a friends house and had used his mics and soundboards to send it into my computer, because I don’t have a laptop I had to pack around my tower, monitor and all the extras to and from my house, it was about eleven O’clock and my friends were helping my bring my stuff down, I had not brought my car due to car problems and one of my friends gave me a ride in his van (there are two kinds of vans, vans soccer moms use, and vans burglars use, he had the burglar kind). We had done the voice acting in a two story garage behind the house and we were exiting from the back of the ally. Surprisingly enough a cop was just sitting in parking lot, when he saw the three of us, mostly in black coming out with stuff in our arms he rolled down his window and told us to stop where we were, he then called for backup. We just amicably chatted with each other while we waited for further instruction. When the backup arrived he asked for our names and IDs and phone numbers. It was really nice that my friend who lived there was helping carry stuff because he could say that he lived there and his ID confirmed it. I thought the whole event was funny, nothing bad came of it.
Posted: Sat, 6th May 2006, 1:21pm

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Pooky wrote:

Waser wrote:

In the US, I know there is allot more ammunition (the metaphorical kind) for a citizen to use against a Cop searching his or her car.
Teehee, the litteral kind as well biggrin

Here, cops just wander around aimlessly and give out loads of speeding tickets (people here just looove to speed)... course, I live in the suburbs.
The speed limits are so low over there I'm not surprised that everyone gets speeding tickets!
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so they just pulled you over because you were driving late? what kind of offense is that? is there some kind of curfew in england?
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My two times in trouble with the law were in about the span of one week. My first was when my friend was riding on the back of my car in his apartment complex. We were driving to the back of the complex to play tennis and it was about 500 feet. So he jumped on the back and an off duty police officer saw us and called his buddies. They came and told us we were going to jail, but I knew they never would. So they just said they would call our parents, but never did. Then that friday night my friend and I were leaving a party and decided to race. He was in his 2002 Corvette and I was in my Honda Odyssey Mini Van. Haha. We started racing and I was actually in the lead. (surprisingly) Three police officers saw us, but didn't have a radar on us. We were racing on a looped road so they met us when we came back around. They were in a good mood and didn't give us tickets, if they had I would of had my license taken away until I was twenty one and had to pay of 2,000 dollars in fines, my parents only took my license away for two months. My friend had only been driving for 5 days and his dad was just happy we didn't get tickets and he didn't get in trouble at all. The police said we were going 75 in a 25, but again they weren't running radar and I wasn't looking at my speedometer. I still get to brag that my mini van beat a corvette.
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LOL man police! I and ssj john got a "Criminal Trespassing" for getting on top my my high school. It sucked, when we got off the roof, they made us put our hand behind our back and lay down. It was no fun at all, I dont like the police very much. They used to be like "hey kids get off the roof, CYA" now its lke 'go to court!"
lol
sorry er-no
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SlothPaladin wrote:

We had done it at a friends house and had used his mics and soundboards to send it into my computer, because I don’t have a laptop I had to pack around my tower, monitor and all the extras to and from my house... Surprisingly enough a cop was just sitting in parking lot, when he saw the three of us, mostly in black coming out with stuff in our arms he rolled down his window and told us to stop where we were, he then called for backup.
Man. I've been to like.... hundreds of LAN parties and we've never been stopped. biggrin
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When we get done at LAN parties it's around 3-5 in the morning and we've never seen a cop, just luck of the draw
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Heres a fun one. I got pulled over on a street that goes through Acres and acres of land plots for (at the time) unbuilt condo's. No ones around for miles, and the speed limit is 25 on a road that goes straight for almost EVER.

So, I speed up to 50. bout' a minute later a cop stops me and Gives me a ticket, mumbling that he'd "Have it deferred". So, I assume that means i'm off the hook or something like that. But just to be safe, I go into the law and justice center the next day and tel the lady I need to pay a ticket. She looks up my name and Nothing comes up, So I just assume its nothing.


So A year and a half rolls around, and one day i'm checking my mail. Well, Somehow, Johnny law here thought I'd been Evading Court for that entire time and didn't show up to pay my non-existent ticket. Even better, My liscense is now revoked. So i'm really pissed. After waiting FOREVER in court, They finally call me up. Heres the kicker. The reason I now have no liscense, a criminal contempt charge, and $350 in fines? The policemen spelled my name wrong. Yep. one letter off. So they were trying to find a "Bruce" instead of a "Bryce". After the judge realized what happened, he took away all but the $100 re-instatement fee, Which still made me really ticked off, because I realized I just payed $100 because a cop couldn't spell very well.

yep. Now I love cops...
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That cop should have had to pay the fine.
Posted: Sun, 7th May 2006, 5:27am

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the cop should be your servant for a day
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Try coming home at 03:00 and the alternator belt severs on your car- you're stuck with only whatever battery power you have to get you home: and you're pulled over by a state trooper...

I was working on a low budget college film when just such an occurance had occurred- my vehicle, of course, loaded with WWII era rifles, helmets and the pyro box that stays under lock-n-key.

I knew I was in for a bit of 'merryment' when the trooper wanted to see in the box with the "skull and crossbones" on it- plainly marked "explosives".

Thankfully, I didn't hassle him and he asked what would have been reletively normal questions to a man with a car stocked full of vintage military gear and a pyro box...

Even though I was short on time to keep my car running, I kept things light and "effervescent"- even answering his questions about what it took to be in special effects on a film or tv shoot- he even gave me a business card to contact him if we shot anything in the area so he could watch!

I just barely made it home before my battery went flat and stopped the car outright!

Since then- there's been untold numbers of times when I've been approached by law enforcement especially on-set with an arsenal opened for the day's shooting [pun intended!]: it really is all in how you handle it...
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Doing 45mph in a 25mph late night with 2 airsoft (not loaded or anything) handguns and a dummy handgrenade in my back seat. THat was an intresting converation with to PoPo. Other then that and a few disturbance calls nuthin to bad.
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boy do i have a good story about a run in with the police. a while back me and my friends are doing a action/thriller and this particular scene involved a kidnapping...yeah. so to create a realistic environment of a kidnapping we decide to nap the guy at the movie theatres at about 9:30. guy standing on the corner waiting to cross, within five seconds two cars block traffic in the intersection from both directions and an suv pulls up and three men in balaclavas jump out and grab the man. we had cameramen in the crowd to capture the shock they would experience. the cars all take off in separate directions but a "hero" security guard chases the suv. he radios to the police that a kidnapping has occured and gives them the description and direction of the car. meanwhile we are all celebrating in the car. we arrive at my house and start the next scene of moving the man into the garage, he is covered in a hood and everyone is armed with replica mp5s and in full black combat fatigues. thirty seconds later swat arrives and they surround the property prepared to execute hostage rescue maneuvers. helicopters arrive and a buddy of mine opens the door only to be met by swat. he is tasered and the swat team enters my house screaming and yelling for us to surrender. after we were all taken to the police station for interrogation and the story finally came out we were released and to this day it seems i can look in my rear view mirror and see at least one cruiser within 100yds of me
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 7:18am

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It seems that those police officers were a little aggressive with you er-no, but at least nothing bad came of it. I generally like and respect the police, as long as they are decent, and do not abuse their authority. I have not had any bad encounters with the police that come to mind, only a some what humorous one.

On my way home from seeing Batman Begins I drove past an officer conducting speed checks. While passing him I happen to notice he was looking at me. As I am known to do, I gave him a friendly smile, accompanied by a wave. Moments later I see him pull out from his spot in my rear view mirror. He continued to follow me for a good 20 kilometers (12.5 miles).

As I approached a construction zone I noted that the speed posted was thirty kilometers an hour. Although I always follow the rules of the road, I was extra obliged to do so with an officer directly behind me. So, I decelerated to exactly thirty kilometers (give or take). In no time at all, the officer "flags" me over to the side of the road. I pull over, and the officer approaches me, and does the standard routine, asking for my license, and if I am under the influence of any substances. I do not drink, or do any other kind of substances, and there for my answer was no, which he accepted rather quickly.

Nearing the end of the routine the officer informs me that I have been pulled over because I was driving too slow. He continued to say that I was not doing anything "wrong", but that the traffic around me was going faster than I was, and that following the posted speed, I may cause frustration with other drivers, or an accident. How often is it that you hear an officer recommend you drive twenty over the posted speed limitation?

To this day I am confident that the officer began to follow me simply because I waved at him. He may have believed I was being "smug" or over confident. I suppose I will never know for sure.

Crazy world.
Wizard.
Posted: Fri, 19th May 2006, 5:26am

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wow, crazy kids, u should talk to the police before u film, i usually tell them the hang out of the local druggies or gangs and they let me do waht ever i want after i rat pople out for them, jsut trying to clean up the streets of these no goods drug doing high school drop outs that need to be taken care of and off the street asap.


cheers and i hope no one gets in trouble with the police or swat or whatev