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Making lightsaber more visible [ANSWER]

Posted: Sun, 7th May 2006, 3:11pm

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FXhomer1369

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Hi, I have a problem making lightsaber. This problem consists in lightsaber in clear areas, the lightsaber is half-visibile like in this photo:


how can I do, to have a lightsaber more visible?, like in dark areas? smile
like in this photo or (better)
Posted: Sun, 7th May 2006, 8:02pm

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Oeyvind

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You can lower the feather of the core, make the lightsaber fatter or blending it with the "add" mode... wink It will look more "visible" on dark backgrounds, as any light-based effects does.

Oeyvind
Posted: Sun, 7th May 2006, 9:13pm

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To add to Oeyvind's comment, a lightsaber is a light. Any light is going to be more obvious in a dark area than it will be in a bright area. So as he mentioned, there are a few things you can do to modify the look of your saber, but if you make it look the same in a bright scene as it does in a dark scene, it will look unrealistic. (Yes, I realise that lightsabers aren't real, and therefore looking "realistic" is debatable and arbitrary, but you get my meaning.)
Posted: Mon, 8th May 2006, 4:00pm

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FXhomer1369

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Oeyvind wrote:

You can lower the feather of the core, make the lightsaber fatter or blending it with the "add" mode... wink It will look more "visible" on dark backgrounds, as any light-based effects does.

Oeyvind
I tried to do what you said, but that's the result (with a feather of the core at 2)

and that adding a copy of the lightsaber:
Posted: Mon, 8th May 2006, 9:16pm

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Oeyvind

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I thought that looked OK... confused If you're talking about the lightsabre's glow then you need to work on some other options... Fill in different colour grades in the colour bar, to fit your needs. Take a look here for guiding\inspiration:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3895/lightsabreglowoptions2lr.png

If you can't get it to look the way you want, then you should try out some of the preset found here:
http://fxhome.com/presets/presetlist.php?f=%2Bcat:2&title=Lightswords

Good luck!
Oeyvind
Posted: Tue, 9th May 2006, 5:32pm

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FXhomer1369

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Oeyvind wrote:

I thought that looked OK... confused If you're talking about the lightsabre's glow then you need to work on some other options... Fill in different colour grades in the colour bar, to fit your needs. Take a look here for guiding\inspiration:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3895/lightsabreglowoptions2lr.png

If you can't get it to look the way you want, then you should try out some of the preset found here:
http://fxhome.com/presets/presetlist.php?f=%2Bcat:2&title=Lightswords

Good luck!
Oeyvind
Thanks. I used the presents you gave me, but I would like to have a ligthsaber like that:
http://www.cswu.cz/obiwan/obi/ep3poz/06.jpg
Do you know how can I do it? smile .
Posted: Tue, 9th May 2006, 11:42pm

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The pictures you have posted are using a totally different color of blue than the pic of Obi-Wan. Shift the color of your glow more toward the green side of blue, and bring the grey slider down a bit.
Posted: Wed, 10th May 2006, 8:39am

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FXhomer1369

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Axeman wrote:

The pictures you have posted are using a totally different color of blue than the pic of Obi-Wan. Shift the color of your glow more toward the green side of blue, and bring the grey slider down a bit.
Is it the same using the color near blu (it's a blu more clear)? smile .
Posted: Wed, 10th May 2006, 8:42am

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Simon K Jones

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Plus that picture of Obi-Wan has a dark background, so won't suffer from the same problem... crazy

There's a reason lightsaber fights in the movies usually happen againt dark backgrounds. As Oeyvind said, try experimenting with the blend method. He didn't mean add another copy of the lightsaber, he meant alter the blend method itself. To do this, click on the object's title in the track listing to display its properties in the toolbox. Then use the blend method to change how it is composited into the shot. Some of the alternative options might help you.
Posted: Wed, 10th May 2006, 4:25pm

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FXhomer1369

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Tarn wrote:

Plus that picture of Obi-Wan has a dark background, so won't suffer from the same problem... crazy

There's a reason lightsaber fights in the movies usually happen againt dark backgrounds. As Oeyvind said, try experimenting with the blend method. He didn't mean add another copy of the lightsaber, he meant alter the blend method itself. To do this, click on the object's title in the track listing to display its properties in the toolbox. Then use the blend method to change how it is composited into the shot. Some of the alternative options might help you.
I tried what you said, thanks smile .