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The Boomer Project: UFO Invasion

Posted: Sun, 5th May 2002, 1:49pm

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maxsmoke

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The Boomer Project was a test to see how well I could distroy places in my computer, based only on photos of them. I could have distroyed famous places around the world, but I prefer the personal touch and have instead destroyed my home town. Most photos I took, and the others are from the NASA website. The only copy righted material I used is the AC/DC track, Highway to Hell. With the exception of my poor acting, all other film scenes were created with Photos and Still Frames.

(Warning: The Following Film contains lots of violence and Silly Dancing)
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Posted: Sun, 5th May 2002, 4:34pm

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Sollthar

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You did a good job on the photomontage of the destroyed houses and you have chosen good and interesting angles this time! :)
So were the details. I liked you did a shadow (it has to be more transparent though)!

But what I think is a weakness of this video is again the music. Still it has no connection to the film. It's just an overlayed soundtrack again.
Even if it may sound cool to an ACDC fan, it's not connected to the film itself.
And another thing is the work with fotos... It was done very well and would have been perfect is a kind of animatic or storyboard, but as I movie it's not enough.
And the shot with you dancing was too long... After an exciting and actionpacked start like that seeing you dance for more than 10 seconds is... uh... boring...

But I really liked the details you did! And it's fun to look at...
Posted: Sun, 5th May 2002, 5:04pm

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Andreas

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yeah the movie was ok, a little more than ok 2... and i agree with sollthar.. the music wasnt so good with the movie.. and the sounds make a half movie i think.. good work.. biggrin
Posted: Sun, 5th May 2002, 7:03pm

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I personally loved this movie. It was very cleverly done with minimal camera footage.

I'll have to disagree with Sollthar, because I really liked the dancing bit. I dunno, prehaps it just appealed to my sense of humor, but it gave me a big cheesey grin for ages biggrin

I really like the camera wobble with the explosions too, nice touch
Posted: Sun, 5th May 2002, 7:39pm

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Sollthar

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Seems like we have very different opinions about homour... :))
Posted: Sun, 5th May 2002, 11:25pm

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ChillFactor

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yeah, the damage to the buildings and the house and stuff actually looks really cool (and by cool, i mean totall sweet). i'm with the other guys on the dancing and soundtrack though...
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 2:00am

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I am sorry I only gave you 2 stars. You got them becase I cannot use Studio 3d yet so you are smarter than me. The main thing I think you can do some more work on is the circles (Alien ships?). I have no knowledge of 3d stuff as I said but could you not give them some more texture or something to look more like something other than a circle?
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 5:14am

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maxsmoke

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Geezz! You have no idea how SICK AND TIRED I'm getting of some of the shallow and narrow minded people that post reguarly on this website! Just try to get this little idea through your thick skulls, "For something to be Good, it doesn't have to RIP OFF EVERYTHING ELSE!"

I wanted a heavy metal track. Not just because I don't have a libary of Movie music to RIP OFF, like some people(Solthar), but because I think American Heavy Metal gives the movie a more modern and chaotic feel. The "Highway to Hell" was aspeically fitting, given the nature of the video.

The Dance number was a bit long, but I needed some filler since I wanted the lyrics to match up with the ending. Notice how the movie ends on the lyrics "Highway to Hell". That's not a concidence, I planned it that way.

As as far as the Spheres, I wanted the UFO's to look different then the "Normal" flying sausers people are used to. I wanted them to look truely alien, and nothing is more alien then a big, floating metal bubble. It's simple, and yet extremely effective.

It's obvious that more then a couple of these poor votes are due to jelously. My work is nearly at the level of a Hollywood studio, and most work here is clearly more amature. A few people's work, although good, looks more like Power Rangers then a Action movie. And the amount of StarWar slag is truley frightening. You'd think most people haven't a single orginal bone in their bodies. All of the truely original work I've seen here has received apollingly low scores, and yet chezzy rip offs seem to be at the top of the voting stack.

Congratations guys! You are acting just like the jerks in the Real Hollywood! evil confused tard unsure
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 5:30am

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a fact is that these people aren't professionals. They have no merit to issue a vote as opposed to Lucas himself or a professional being on the panel of voters. I do believe these people have viewed just about every movie in the cinema however. Whatever their basis for the votes given - they too are amateurs and a lot probably on the younger side. You got to look at the panel. Maybe there should be a form to the critiques as there is for bug reports...
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 10:54am

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Sollthar

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Your work is definately good (that's why I gave you 4 stars. I think 2 stars is absolutely not justified here, and 3 either) and I have explained what stopped my from giving 5, so I have no bad conscience.

I have already said that I like your work... You need to calm down a little. I really think you're one of the better filmmakers and those poor votes are really not justified.

But if you so sure about yourself, why do you even care? I mean... come on... it's not about life or death here...

Cheers and keep up the good work.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 1:24pm

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Lord Dugall

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It is very good from my point of view... biggrin The music fits (solthar?!!!) people in this movie are on they highway to hell... evil

Knowing that it's have been done with only photos, this movie gives the idea of the AlamDV potential and filmmaker creativity! Plus, it shows that you don't need a digital camera to do stuff.

Good job!
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 3:44pm

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ronin

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I wanted a heavy metal track. Not just because I don't have a libary of Movie music to RIP OFF, like some people(Solthar),

So it is ok for you to rip off 1 song and not the whole library? You said who the song is from. Solthar said who when asked too.

The Dance number was a bit long, but I needed some filler since I wanted the lyrics to match up with the ending. Notice how the movie ends on the lyrics "Highway to Hell". That's not a concidence, I planned it that way.

What about using different angles? How about showing your feet taping? Another shot of the Aliens? It is too long.

As as far as the Spheres, I wanted the UFO's to look different then the "Normal" flying sausers people are used to. I wanted them to look truely alien, and nothing is more alien then a big, floating metal bubble. It's simple, and yet extremely effective. It's obvious that more then a couple of these poor votes are due to jelously.

Some are jealousy. I like your movies. Some votes are fixed to pump of other peoples movies. It is obvious that the voting system is rigged. Look at the people who vote 1 time 5 stars or now they throw out a token 4 stars for a movie, 5 for theirs and then a 1 for another. Don't place too much stock in the voting. Look at the votes though. It isnt't too hard to figure out who is doing it.

My work is nearly at the level of a Hollywood studio, and most work here is clearly more amature. A few people's work, although good, looks more like Power Rangers then a Action movie. And the amount of StarWar slag is truley frightening. You'd think most people haven't a single orginal bone in their bodies. All of the truely original work I've seen here has received apollingly low scores, and yet chezzy rip offs seem to be at the top of the voting stack.

This is the main part of your argument that I have a problem with. You made a UFO invades the town clip. I have seen that 1,000 times. War of the Worlds? I liked your clip. There were some original pieces to it but I have seen the UFO's that look like marbels too. That is in at least 4 old video games and some movies. I don't care but most movies and stories are similar to ones that have been done before.

And so what if someone wants to make a Power Ranger fight clip? Half the clips that say it is a test. You make tests, can't they? Fight scenes are hard. And what is wrong with doing a power ranger one anyway?

Just because you don't like Star Wars other people can't do it? What about your Head's Up clip?

"I (Maxxsmoke) would like to eventually follow up with limb removal and cutting somebody in half, just like the great Sollthar in Wild Danger."

"This was inspired by one of my favorite Cartoons, Project Zeta."

"Soldier Vs Terrorist" - Nothing wrong with it. Liked the clip but for originality?

The point I am trying to make it while some of your clips are original some aren't. Shouldn't you cut people the same slack as yourself?.


Congratations guys! You are acting just like the jerks in the Real Hollywood!

I think you lumped yourself right in there with them. Some people have given your clips low scores and a lot of other movies and personally I think their wimpy and don't understand how they think but that doesn't give you a license to tear into other people.

You clips are great and I have enjoyed every one. I think that you use a wide variety of FX and tools and have some of the better clips on the site but I hate seeing someone rip into someone else like and had to say something.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 4:47pm

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Sollthar

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i agree totally with ronin about the originality...

One more thing.... learn some modesty...
Your work is far away from a hollywood studio, so as the work of most of us... (the only one who might say something like that without looking stupid and arrogant is kingpin.)

And for the RIPPING OFF soundtracks... I bet you have a CD store in your neighborhood too... Buy some nice CDs and than you have some fitting music, as I did.
Or ASK ME what soundtracks may fit your needs, I'm sure i know something and can help you out.
Or buy a Synthesizer. Usually, I compose my music myself. Than you have a big point of originality.

And please stop insulting everybody here. These people try their best, just like you. And many of them get even lower votes than you do, but none of them is actiong like an asshole.
People have different opinions about movies. You're not the chosen one. Everyone here has to deal with votes they don't understand. Everyone...
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 5:15pm

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Idgas

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I havn't posted any films here yet so I am not really in a place to give criticism, but..... I did like this film. The only part that seemed out of place was the "long dance scene". If you were trying to fill some dead space for the sound to match up then you could have gone with different angles like ronin said. I do agree w/ everyone else in saying that it was original. I don't agree w/ Sollthar about the sound track. I think that the song went well with the theme of the film.

However i do think that you need to get off your high horse and stop blowing your own horn. Too quote Sollthar “Your work is far away from a Hollywood studio, so as the work of most of us...” It is better for someone else to say that you are great then to say to someone that you are. You say that “My work is nearly at the level of a Hollywood studio…” if that was true then why isn’t your phone ringing off the hook. But that is just my opinion.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 5:28pm

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Sollthar

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You see... Nobody says your movie is bad... we all like it... :)

Hmmm, with the music... that is about taste, I think. I'm very into filmmusik and I think it's important that the music goes up and down with the picture (Actually I think filmmusic is the most interesting, most artistic and most difficult part in filmmaking). But if you think it fits, why not...
I was just speaking for what I personally thought, there are different tastes...
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 8:06pm

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First of all, I enjoyed the film. I agreed with everything that was done except the extended length dance scene. Personally, I would've chopped the song up at that point if I wanted the "Highway to Hell" lyrics to match up with the end.

On the originality of music...
Not everyone can play a musical instrument or aspire to write huge pieces of music for their films, tests or otherwise. Fortunately, I can both write and play many instruments. But that didn't stop me from raiding my MP3 archive to get songs that fitted my mini-movie, The Fight. Even though I managed to record a minutes worth of original opening music.

What you also have to understand is - there are people that don't have to the time or expense to do just that. I recorded some stuff to open my film in a very original way, but I couldn't find the time or right musical ideas to put into my movie. Therefore, I borrowed some songs that I felt fit the action.

The only other thing I'd say is, everyone here needs to stop slagging off each other! It's getting really annoying and quite frankly embarassing when I recommend AlamDV to others for their movies. Cause if they check out these posts, they might be thinking, "Jeez. I ain't postin stuff here. Too many negative and back-stabbing people". And unfortunately I'm starting to think that way. Just don't make me right...

Adam.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 8:17pm

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Idgas

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I don't think anyone here is backstabbing. When you post a film here you are a fool if you think that no one is going to criticize it. Everyone has there own idea of what makes a good movie. Some people like Star Wars and give it two thumbs up, others hate it. I think that if you are going to post movies on a site then you need to take the criticism with a professional attitude that it is directed toward the film not toward the person. Nobody is saying that the authors of the films are terrible or people they are just giving their own personal opinions about the "film".
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 8:28pm

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Your totally right, adam.

This place forums should be to place compliments or critics. But none of them should be taken that personally.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 8:32pm

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Idgas, you've missed the point of the backstabbing bit. I'm referring to what Sollthar and Maxsmoke have already said. That there are people on this site who in jealousy and other very immature responses, vote other peoples films with very bad scores. Just because they want their own film to be rated higher in the table. evil

That's what I was getting at when I mentioned backstabbing.

>When you post a film here you are a fool if you think that no one is >going to criticize it.

Idgas, where did you get that? confused I think that anyone who posts here is aware of the criticism that will follow. If not, then that person, or persons etc., should be MORE aware. wink

Adam.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 8:37pm

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Idgas

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I’m not sure where I got that. I think I threw it in for flavor. Oops sorry. sad
I understand what your saying about the backstabbing thing. I guess I’m just new here. redface redface
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 9:08pm

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Idgas

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I have to apologize for the comment above,

Idgas wrote:

I don't think anyone here is backstabbing. When you post a film here you are a fool if you think that no one is going to criticize it. Everyone has there own idea of what makes a good movie. Some people like Star Wars and give it two thumbs up, others hate it. I think that if you are going to post movies on a site then you need to take the criticism with a professional attitude that it is directed toward the film not toward the person. Nobody is saying that the authors of the films are terrible or people they are just giving their own personal opinions about the "film".
I have multiple personality’s that was sagdI, no really wink confused :o
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 10:00pm

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Maybe my remarks might have been a bit harsh, although you should have seen my first post! (Which I deleted...) >:]

And my work is far from prefect, given. The dance number could have been better, but I was impatence to post something since I have had this file sitting on my hardrive for well over a week now. Some other stuff came up when I was almost finished, and when I got back to the peice, I just couldn't think of any kind of ending for it. I didn't want to just end it on the distruction of the house, I wanted to show some human elements as well. I had a idea for a UFO shooting through a window, but no place in my house would work. I should have added the different camera angles, that's a good idea. I'll have to do that to the finished peice before I delete the files I made it with.

But a score combined score of 3 seems more then a little unjustified. And none of my stuff is in the top ten anymore, which is completely unfair. Even if the scores are rigged and twisted, people from studios are going to come to the Alam site and see "The Test" at the top of the list, and that's all they are going to look at. They arn't likely to look past the Top Ten, even if the votes are screwed up. Here's just how screwed up the voting currently is:

Boomer Project: 3 (Lowest Score yet!)
Heads Up: 3 1/2 (A Prefect Decapition! Moving Severed head!)
Burning Me Up: 4 (My least Impressive work)
Killer Robo: 3 1/2 (My best work yet!)
Times Up: 4 (That I can understand)
Soldier Vs Terrorist: 3 1/2 (A near PREFECT shootout!!!)

(It looks like the more work I put into this stuff, the lower the votes get.)

Times Up was pulling a 3 up until recently, it's cool that at least a few people are giving it some nice votes. Aspeically considering it's a Speical FX blow out and actually has ACTORS in it! Most of these votes would even be lower, if I hadn't voted for my own work! I don't like to do that, but the scores were REDICULOUS!

And now it seems that people are voting 5's for Solthar's work, without even putting it under the same critism that other people's work seems to be getting, like mine. I'm all for supporting good work, but I haven't seen anything on the Alam website that really deserved a 5. Solthar himself said he gave Times Up a lower score because of the Bad Acting. Did anyone think the acting was prefect in "The Test" or "Bomb Squad"?

I don't mind critism, as long as it's fairly applied. But without support from the Starwars fans, or people that idolize me, I don't think the playing field is very level.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 10:11pm

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Idgas

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Well i liked the boomer project thats why i gave you a four (4). As for the other movies i have only scene the burining up one which i gave you a three (3) only because it was so short. For effects only i would have given a 5 but i rate the movies on effects, scene, plot, flow, and sound.
But thats just me and i am still a new guy here so theres my two bits.
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 12:02am

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I give you four stars, because the effects were good and so, but not the best.

But the plot was good. My vote does not support the plot, just the effects.
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 12:27am

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Look at my votes, max... I've given "Bombsquad" a 4... There's a lot of things to be improved on this one, I have said that myself.

Actually... I wouldn't put "the test" on top. I mean, it's funny and all, but if I had to chose the best of my own work here than I'd clearly chose "Rose". But look at the votes I get for it here... (shame on you, v6proz!) :))
So my personal votes don't match with the ones given to me either.

I don't know why poeple vote like they vote. Some may give an explanation, some don't. And some explanations I understand, some I don't.
It's like always... Some poeple love certain movies... others hate them... I personally just loved "the mummy returns"... others said it's bullshit... Some think "Pulp Fiction" is cool... I think it's crap... There isn't always a good explanation for that. A movie has a lot to do with a certain feeling, that can't be really explained... That's why it's called "moviemagic"...

I for myself always try to vote as fair as possible. And I hope others do that too...
I gave a lot of 5 star votes (and just 2 of them to my own movies, the other movies of mine I have voted less than 5... some 4 and some even 3...)

Tastes are different. But certainly that's no reason to kill each other. Everyone's trying to improve...
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 12:33am

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Ohw, I've just seen... Idgas here is on your side... He gave "the test" 3 stars... :)
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 1:33am

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I must be strange, but that AC/DC song rocked. I loved the use of 3D and animations (even if the ships were just little balls) Hey, it's just for entertainment! Still, there was very little AlamDV plug-ins and that such...it's still good. I gave you a 5 out of 5. Rock on.
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 2:51am

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Hey MAXZSMOKE, you are new to this site, and relatively uknown. Sollthar is one of the most prominent film-makers here. That is why he has more recognition. You may be well known somewhere else, but you will have to work your way up again to gain respect here. mad

You may think your work is perfect, but others may not. When you compare "The Test" to "The One (Jet Li)", "The Test" pales in comparison. Same goes for your clips. You may have a perfect decapitation, but do you have anything else?

And a note on the exploding buildings-Do you know what a camera map is? had you utilized that effect for the destruction of the buildings, then I would have truly been in awe. Instead, they are edited pictures with 3d animations and alamdv effects. Well done and entertaining, but not 4-5 star material.

Personally, to get a high score from me, you need to have something that gets my adrenaline going. "Ascendance Titles" did that for me, as did our own "Metal Gear Redux".


P.S. I actually think many movies are rated rather high...So i tend to avoid being the first to vote, as I tend to vote low. Maybe I should just say "To hell with it", and go ahead.

P.P.S. It's a pity MGR isn't on the top 10 anymore. We had something like a two-month run! cry
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 7:47pm

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Sorry Sollthar! Rose is a good movie... but.
Im an Action fan lol

I love The mummy returns! i think it rocks! but why dont you like Pulp Fitction!? lol
Man that movie is 1 of the best ive seen... its funny, much action... and the feelin all over it is soo good biggrin
Hope that i make a quality movie like that when im a 50 years old, white haired director! tard
Im actully a fan of B-action movies and Hong kong action movies! they rock!!!!! They may be stupid,,, but a hell of an laughter! and action is good too biggrin exept for all of thoose soundfx! same punch sound all the time evil

Hate me! tard tard tard tard tard tard tard
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 7:56pm

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Ha! You see that, Max! I get 3 stars for Rose, the most artistic and best film I've ever done (even the one with the most sfx, it's almost all cgi), just because there's no action in it... :)))

Why I don't like Pulp Fiction? i don't know, it just didn't seem interesting to me... And I'm not really the one to be impressed with that kind of coolness and besides I don't really like drugmovies. Tarantino is just not my world... I'm more a Tim Burton Fan... I love artistic films like the ones burton does.
SLEEPY HOLLOW is my Top 1 movie. The best I've ever seen, techincally as from the storyline... :)

Yeah, some of those Eastern are quite funny... Like to see them too sometimes. I like John Woo! :)

Hate you? HOW COULD I???? :))))
Posted: Thu, 9th May 2002, 9:37am

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Hey! im trying to make an Sleepy Hollow effect... You know the feel about sleepy hollow? Its dark contrasy and kind of black and white.
Hmm... wait a week or so lol
And yeah... I like drug movies alot, but not that much i also like Sleepy Hollow very much, like alot of difference movies.

And hey! i realy dont remember Rose! redface
i need to dl it and watch it again... se whats all the commotion is about lol
Posted: Thu, 9th May 2002, 10:17am

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good movie nice use of nasa footage has the independence day movie feel to the starting. but is nothing compaired to sollthars cool biggrin work
i love the test sollthar its outa this world !
billy
Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2002, 5:17am

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This is a Bad A$$ movie i love the music and how it blends with the movie Great job I give u a 5. KG
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jun 2002, 11:49am

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5 stars from me.

BALLS i liked it, no ships just Balls
good camera movement, dancing ( a little too long )
great, i want part 2.

how did you do the smoke with the 3 balls coming down the street, wsa that alam...?
Posted: Sat, 24th Aug 2002, 9:59pm

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I liked the music, I liked the compositing, and I'm impressed with your creative use of stills.

As far as the rankings go, don't put too much stock in them. Make your movies and be happy with a job well done.

Oh, and I don't think "the studios" will scouting for talent (in the top 10 or anywhere) on the AlamDV site. The software may be ground-breaking for the amateur film-making market and there may be a lot of talented people posting their work on this site, but there are better venues for studios to find talent - just my honest opinion.

Finally, a little modesty goes such a long way. Peace. smile