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Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 6:36pm

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I need to make glowing letters on for example a Wall or in a book. Is this possible?

Only think I can think of is using "free hand" with neon tool in some sort of way... but maybe it will not look good. Anyone know how I could do this?

Thank you for your time.
Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 6:42pm

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Just to be clear, is this effect you are asking about like the glowing vampire glyphs in Blade II that mark vampire buildings?
Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 7:18pm

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I have not seen Blade II but any glowing letter effect would be fine. As long it looks like the letters are glowing smile

Either UV-light glowing or maybe like photoshop glowing letters.
Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 8:31pm

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What colour should the core be? If it's white then it would be rather simple to use EffectsLab Pro to do that. Just import a file with the white text (and a alpha channel) and apply a Composition:Glow filter on it, then place it correctly.
Posted: Wed, 17th May 2006, 10:44pm

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Spirit wrote:

I need to make glowing letters on for example a Wall or in a book...Only think I can think of is using "free hand" with neon tool in some sort of way... but maybe it will not look good.
The free hand neon light engine could give satisfactory results, depending on the variables of your shot. For instance, the size of the text required. I have found that what may look good as a large effect, doesn't necessarily look good when made smaller. The glow of a neon light effect tends to change depending on the size; you may find that the neon light engine is capable of achieving the look you require, but when re-sized to fit your footage, the effect will not be what you had hoped.

With that said, planning your shot with the capabilities of the neon light engine in mind, you can get fairly pleasing results. The best method for creating text using free hand would be to have a guide to follow. You could have an outline of your text on the wall, then trace over that in EffectsLab with the neon light engine.

You could also try a combination of Redhawksrymmer's suggestion, and the neon light engine. In this case, using the Gleam: composite filter. Import an image of your text, draw your neon shape over the text then add a gleam filter. This is more complex, and time consuming, but creates a rather different affect, and could be more to your liking. There are a few illustrations below to hopefully help you decide, and at the very least, give you an idea of what the effect will look like if you try it.

Neon light:


Neon light with gleam:


Neon light with gleam: (No glow added to neon light effect)


These examples are only quick representations of some of the possibilities you can choose from. You will of course be able to add all the customization you wish, and will most likely have ideas that will create an effect that will work better for your purposes. Good luck with what ever method you choose.

Have fun.
Wizard.
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 8:14am

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Excellent stuff Wizard, thats really cool!
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 11:57am

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I haven't really used the neon light engine yet but the effetcs Wizard has achieved are amazing. Just so I understand fully - each letter is a separate neon light source hand drawn in the shape of the letter?
Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 12:14pm

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pete2 wrote:

Just so I understand fully - each letter is a separate neon light source hand drawn in the shape of the letter?
That is essentially correct, yes. However, instead of placing multiple neon light effects onto the time line, I create multiple free hand neon light effects with in the one object. Do this by clicking "Neon shapes" within the desired neon light effect, then selecting the type of effect you would like to work with (four point, or free hand). So far I have not found any limit to how many times this can be done. Here is a picture to better illustrate the layout of my time line:

Neon light - Free hand #7:


An additional benefit to using this method, other than having a neater more efficient time line, is that each free hand shape shares the same glow properties. That can be seen as an advantage, or a disadvantage, depending on the effect you are trying to create. If you have any further questions please feel free to ask. Hopefully I will be better rested, and more suited to answer than I currently am.

Hope that is clear.
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Posted: Thu, 18th May 2006, 5:05pm

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That is very clear, thank you. Will be having a go at that soon (and trying to save up for a graphics tablet for my video PC).

Looks an excellent way to create titles like in John Carpenter's The Thing (somewhat easier than burning paper and tanks full of cloudy water which is what they used!)
Posted: Thu, 1st Jun 2006, 10:25am

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My lost topic smile

Thank you for the replies, awesome result you got there Wizard. Is it possible to make an animation for them to?
I mean the "glowing" if it could change a bit in movements so it does not look so...pale or photo-ish.

Let me explain the scene a bit better.

A guy opens a book where we want to have some lines written in glowing letters, the lines can be in big letters if that's easier. Does not really matter exactly how it glows, as long as it glows smile
Posted: Thu, 1st Jun 2006, 12:09pm

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I am very new to EffectsLab, and I am just wondering how you get neon light etc? Do I have to import some text from let's say Photoshop into EffectsLab, and then I get some glowing neon option?
Posted: Thu, 1st Jun 2006, 2:24pm

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You get a neon light effect by clicking the neon light engine in the effects Toolbox. For more info on the neon light effects, check the quickstart manual. You create the letters by drawing the shape of each one in EffectsLab.

Spirit-- animating the results that Wizard achieved is quite simple.The position and intensity of the Gleam filter are both keyframeable.
Posted: Thu, 1st Jun 2006, 4:26pm

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I have EffectsLab DV, then I can't do this, can I?
Posted: Thu, 1st Jun 2006, 9:02pm

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rglaf wrote:

I have EffectsLab DV, then I can't do this, can I?
The composite gleam filter is a "Pro" exclusive feature, yes. You would be able to achieve the effect that is shown in the first illustration, as that is simply a neon light effect, which comes standard in EffectsLab, but the other two would require pro. If the gleam filter is a feature you believe you may find yourself desiring fairly often, perhaps an upgrade might be a good idea.

Something to consider.
Wizard.
Posted: Thu, 1st Jun 2006, 9:41pm

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Wow Wizard that is some fantastic stuff +1 biggrin.