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DVD case vote..

Which case design catches your attention, makes you want to pick it up?

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Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 2:47pm

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Hi Everyone,

We've had quite a few case designs in now so its time for a vote so we can see what you like. We are looking for a case design that would not only catch your attention but also make you want to look at it more to find out about the product. It also has to look cool smile

There will be some small thing that might change on all of these including the csb-digital logo and the tag lines so vote on the overall image not things like the placing of logos/badges.

You also need to remember the case will be DVD case size - smaller than these image. So try to think what you would be able to see easily from a distance.

So basically it needs to stand out from the crowd, make you want to pick it up, and show what AlamDV is about.

Schwar's Explosive Design


Craig's Video Design


Mechaforce's High Contrast Design


Schwar's Conservative Design


EDIT altered my image to the current one - Craig

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Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 3:01pm

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Although I somewhat prefer Craig's design, in terms of the look, I think it'll lose something when it's small on a DVD cover, whereas Schwar's will still have the impact.

Maybe use Craig's general idea for a poster/advert? smile

They're all cool, though.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 3:08pm

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Good idea Tarn. I like Craig's design as well unsure lol . I did have a go at making a stream of video before my final design (it was nowhere near as cool as Craig's) but I didn't think the little images would show up when standing more than a couple of feet from the DVD case.

Lets see how it goes..
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 3:20pm

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Combine them!. Put Schwar's conservative pics in Craigs filmstrip! It will look awesome
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 3:31pm

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yeah, the pics on Craigs cover doesen't show many effects..
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 5:10pm

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I voted for Schwar's Explosive Design because I think it will catch the most attention. And I think Schwar's gives a better example than Craig's of what alamDV can do. But maybe you could use Craig's warning and put it on the Explosive Design. It makes sense, there's all kinds of explosions and lasers and stuff on the cover... Good work everyone!

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Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 5:46pm

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Schwars is great but i think craigs looks more profersinal some how.. i like bouth of them!! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 7:21pm

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I voted for me (no surprises there)

I felt that the explosion on the cover was enough to catch the eye without being too busy and the film strip itself is enough for you to link AlamDV to being a program about video immediately.

I used those images that are there as a proof of concept as I'd already used them for another project and it meant that I didn't have to redo anything to show the design idea. These can be changed and I intended to alter them to more suitable ones if the need arises.
Obviously these would be more dynamic in their content for the front.

Here is what the whole design looks like if you missed it in the other forum



The warning on the cover was AverageJoe's idea and the slogan was Schwars by the way.

I thank you for your time

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Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 7:39pm

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We gotta use Craigs. It's the most professional one. It's so cool. Maybe change the content of the filmstrip, but still.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 7:57pm

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We already have the back designed - its in csb-digitals new colour scheme so its only the front thats important. I did vote for my own as well for several reasons (I feel better now I know Craig did smile ).

1. I think it is the only one (apart from my boring conservative one) that shows what effects are possible in AlamDV. If you like StarWars you'll see the lightsword/laser, if you like guns then there is the gun and so on...
2. Its bright and large which is important on such a small space like a DVD. It needs to stand out from all the other cases on the shelf in the computer shop and apart from Mechaforce's I think it is the only one that will.

I really like the film reel idea on Craig's one but when I tried printing it out at DVD size and the images on the film strip just don't show up from a distance (like if you were just browsing a shelf. I don't know how it could be changed? Also, you can only put a couple of clear images in the reel as the rest are distorted in perspective.

Any ideas people?

The things I would suggest that craig could change are:-
1. Using the real AlamDV2 logo wink and boost the contrast on it like I had to (it is a little washed out otherwise).
2. Kill the flash behind it as it seems a bit huge at the moment (maybe putting the contrasty logo on will sort that?).
3. The background could do with a gradient from darker at the top to the current blue at the bottom. Or the other way up?
4. Maybe 2 film reels or something so we can show more images as it doesn't really show many effects at the moment. The angle of the reel may need to be changed so it is flatter and more images can fit on.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 8:30pm

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I voted for Schwar's Explosive design, but I do like filmstrip idea too, maybe replace thoe couple of frames that have no effects to ones that do, and different effects... maybe, just a thought my $.02 (and I'm expecting change) smile
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 9:13pm

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Okay,

I fully agree with Schwar that his explosive design is the only one that really shows what the software can do. It definately grabs your attention too. Craigs filmstrip is really cool too, I agree it looks a bit more professional, this really depends on who you're marketing to. Schwar's design looks a bit more cartoonish wheras Craigs actually shows it being used on film. You really need to work out a compromise on this because Schwar simply lacks the video footage element, but more importantly Craigs lacks the effects and power that's evidenced in Schwars explosive design.

Put them together somehow and you'll have a kickass design! Hands down. But if I have to choose between one or another I pick Schwar's

Great work to all!!

-Pooch
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 9:17pm

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I shall try some of those ideas tomorrow night after checking back in here.

On the "but when I tried printing it out at DVD size and the images on the film strip just don't show up from a distance" front...
The images don't need to show up from a distance - the explosion and the fact that there's a filmstrip on the cover should entice them to the shelf to look further - and then see the images which I'll use the ones that you've used on your conservative design.

I shall also increase the angle of the strip itself so more images are visible on a flatter surface.

cya l8r

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Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 9:20pm

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Cool, looking forward to seeing it Craig biggrin

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Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 9:22pm

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If only the lightswords looked as good as on Schwar's explosive design!! lol Really clean.

Also, is there an asteroid plugin that I'm unaware of? The one on Scwar's cover looks pretty cool. Maybe it could be added if there isn't one already.
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 9:30pm

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I hate you craig! You're too good! :o


Awww, my peice of crap aint up there cry
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 9:44pm

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I like shwars explosive front but I like craig's back
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 10:09pm

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u sayin u like craig's rear view?



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Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 11:02pm

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explosive looks great - then I put myself as the ignorant consumer - i see all this lightshow and i think "pretty". I look at the conservative one and i think "that's the end result - wow".
Posted: Mon, 6th May 2002, 11:31pm

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Raider - good points there. However, I think the explosive one would get people's attention, make them go "ooh, what's this?" *Then* they can turn over the back and see the conservative one (or craig's, or something calmer and more informative), and that's when they see the end results and how it actually works.
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 12:12am

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yeah!! that's true! didn't know what the back was
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 12:31am

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eek! They both look awesome. I really like Craigs, but it only showed 2 effects on the cover: explosion and lightning! If some more were shown i would have voted for it: it definetly was more proffesional! I, too, also think that Schwar's cover will catch the people's attention.
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 3:51am

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yeah, craig's filmstrip design is nice. not too busy, but gets the video idea across quickly. two things i think need to be done to it:


1. i would scale the filmstrip and explosion a little larger in comparison to the size of the case. (or maybe just slightly different placement) You can still keep it not so busy, but just cut down a bit on the negative space. either that or fill something in so you dont have so much empy blue in the background. (bear with me, my mother is an art teacher). also when its a smaller dvd case, those pics may too small. not that you cant see them, but seeing the effects in action is what is going to make people pick it up and turn it over.

2. put schwar's pics in the filmstrip
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 9:53am

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I voted for Schwars' explosive cover but I also like the filmstrip very
much. Why not combine the two? Use Schwars' as the background
layer, let the filmstrip come out of the explosion (to down right corner)
and put the Logo on top of it.

DVAce

ps: Here is a very clumsy edit but you'll get the idea... :

Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 10:20am

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Worry not - I'm going to be altering mine tonight to include all I've previously said (and it seems that people aren't reading that!) and also some of the effects coming out of the explotion similar to Schwars.

This will be tonight - check again tomorrow am.

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Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 10:41am

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No, you got me wrong. Schwars' cover already is as good as it gets
it's just missing the link to the video editing topic which would be
achieved by adding your filmstrip...

IMHO the result (final cover) should be Schwars' combined with
your filmstrip!

Regards,
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Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 11:01am

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I'll send Craig my photoshop files and see what he comes up with - he is THE MAN after all... biggrin

Edit - Oh poo.. the files are HUGE... I'll up them to the server and send him the link..
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 5:40pm

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I DO like the conconction made by dvAce, that's very cool, and shows everything that everybody liked from both... great idea!
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 9:37pm

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New versions!



Comments please!

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Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 10:02pm

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All I can say is WOW! Where can I buy a copy? smile I wouldn definately pick that up off of the shelf... For sure...

Great job!
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 10:56pm

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That new one gets my vote, if i hadn't already voted!

And i like the captions and whatnot on the back! lol
Posted: Tue, 7th May 2002, 11:33pm

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Hi Craig,

Had to take down the whole case design as we have already got the back. As for the front... You can't really tell its a lightsword from just the front and the AlamDV2 logo needs to be more contrasty and bigger.
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 12:25am

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I think the main problem I have with Craig's new one is that it looks more like a book cover than a software/DVD cover.

It's very cool, though, don't get me wrong! (although like Schwar said, the lightsaber is a bit odd)

I'm still wondering whether the film clip should just be another aspect emerging from the explosion, like in the test mockup someone did on the previous page.

Maybe have it coming out of the explosion as Matrix-style digital green data stuff, which then dissolves to the film strip?
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 8:48am

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Schwar - what does the back cover look like? Didn't you say that we needed 'A DVD case is 273mm x 183mm.'

Xcess has already mentioned moving the gun further in and bluring the light sword a bit more - I can also reduce it so you can see the end of the blade. For those those of you who wanted to see the ammended back, it's still here - http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/community/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2311&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105

These amends can be done tonight... Should I bother?

Schwar - my PSD file is in the upload folder for you to use the filmstrip on your file.

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Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 10:36am

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I still like Schwars' first design best. There are so many brillant colors
making up a perfect match. The new design from Craig simply isn't
that touchy.

Schwars' looks like a fireworks full of special effects (especially with
all the particles flying arounf) and that's what it should be IMHO.

Craigs is still fine but looks a bit tainted.

So I still vote for my clumsily edited proposal: Schwars' design with
a filmstrip _added _ to it. Not more.

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Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 11:21am

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IMHO Schwars design has a crucial problem in that casual observers will have no idea what the product does. The review snippets are good endorsements but not good for identifying what AlamDV does.. Overall the concept seems too simplistic, if well executed.

Craigs design needs a bit more work - perhaps the filmstrip needs to be enlarged - but its just so much more professional looking.
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 12:39pm

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Craigs Video Design is excellent - one comment however - i don't think you can use the registered trademarks of windows and mac without permission
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 12:51pm

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We do have permission smile

It would seem that the psd file Craig upped to the server is a bit broken so I can't use it. If you put it up again Craig please make it .sit.bin otherwise it might not work...
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Sorry, I didn't realise you had permission - thats cool, I definately think AlamDV will sell well, with the combination of your and craig's design's.
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 1:13pm

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unsure tard Sorry Schwar

Just tried un-stuffing my file here to test it - it's broken! GRRRRR evil

It took ages to stuff as well!!!!!

I'll re-stuff tonight, test it and upload it tomorrow - I thought I had good compression from it 65MB>29MB I assumed it was the power of Stuffit - I was wrong! unsure

Speak latter.

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I think Craigs back is awesome. Why can't you use it. Can we see the other back?
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The back has is a design which is half set by the distributors.. We have to put logos and barcodes on. We also wanted it in the csb-digital colours. As you are only ever going to see the front of the case on the shelf I think it would be important from Craig to move the lightsword on his design...
Posted: Wed, 8th May 2002, 7:40pm

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New image uploaded - copied it over the previous one so where I've previously made refference to the new file - it's now the new new file rolleyes

See you peeps

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Posted: Thu, 9th May 2002, 1:05am

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valid point I think about people not being able to tell at a glance what the product does with schwar's design (at a glance doesn't mean reading the legend)

with craig's, the film strip might catch people's eye who aren't looking for a special effects program, but happen to be intereted in film stuff, then they will investigate further.. and buy it, of course. who wouldn't? weeeeeee
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I don't think the cover needs to tell everything at first glance. It needs to give the prospective customer an idea what the program does, and raise their interest enough for them to pick it up. Once it is in their hand, then they will read the blurbs and stuff, and look at the smaller pictures. I think the combination of the explosion and the filmstrip is enough to get it in their hands. Then they will look closer.

In summary, I think Craig's design is very good, and will accomplish everything a cover needs to.
Posted: Thu, 9th May 2002, 8:21am

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Schwar - I've tested the file this time - I've uploaded it in the incoming folder.

It's now 39MB

Speak to you soon.

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I think the 'at a glance factor' happens to both craig and schwars design. With craigs you think oh its just another crappy video program and then you look closer and see it does special effects. I'm not sure I would have looked closer. With schwars you see the effects and think hmm whats that about, is it a game or what and look closer and find out that its a special effects program.

Also in craigs latest design everything is light and it isnt really contrasty enough to attract as much attention as his last one.
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I'll update my design tonight, after I've looked at Craig's file. I think we will go with a design which is a mix of both.