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Force lightning

Posted: Sat, 3rd Jun 2006, 12:25am

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Gman 007

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It would be awsome if you made force lightning because ive been trying to find a way to make it.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Jun 2006, 12:38am

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Garrison

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You don't need a preset, you can use lightning from stock footage.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Jun 2006, 1:22am

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Here is some good links to some old AlamDV2 plugins.

http://fxhome.com/alamdv2/plugins/info_cache/plugin1200.html
http://fxhome.com/alamdv2/plugins/info_cache/plugin1198.html
http://fxhome.com/alamdv2/plugins/info_cache/plugin34.html
http://fxhome.com/alamdv2/plugins/info_cache/plugin366.html

And there is two ways you can convert these plugins. You can use Oeyvinds tutorial on how to convert plugins within Effects Lab link below.

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22496

Or you can use Hendo's software to convert these plugins in to Quick Time Files link below.

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21207

Hope this helps.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Jun 2006, 3:17am

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brennanmceachran

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Is it possible to make this in the particle engine using textures? has anyone tried it? does it come out extremely corny?
Posted: Fri, 28th Jul 2006, 4:40pm

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i have, it does come out ugly!

you would probably want some different types of textures.
Posted: Wed, 9th Aug 2006, 8:24pm

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Garrison wrote:

You don't need a preset, you can use lightning from stock footage.
What does that mean, and how do you do it?
Posted: Wed, 9th Aug 2006, 8:34pm

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Searandrage wrote:

Garrison wrote:

You don't need a preset, you can use lightning from stock footage.
What does that mean, and how do you do it?
Footage you can use (normally with white or black background) that you can place on top of your existing footage. You can then key out the black or white, and you are left with the lightning. From there, you can use the quad and scale controls of the lightning footage and manipulate the lightning to fit your needs.

Converting the old Alam DV plugins into stock footage will accomplish this.

Or you can purchase some lightning footage from Artbeats.
Posted: Wed, 9th Aug 2006, 11:53pm

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Thanks! You really helped!
Posted: Thu, 10th Aug 2006, 4:17am

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Garrison wrote:

Converting the old Alam DV plugins into stock footage will accomplish this.
It is not necessary to convert the old alamdv plug-ins. You can import them directly as an image stream.
Posted: Thu, 10th Aug 2006, 6:08pm

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Axeman wrote:

Garrison wrote:

Converting the old Alam DV plugins into stock footage will accomplish this.
It is not necessary to convert the old alamdv plug-ins. You can import them directly as an image stream.
True, I just like converting it to stock footage and adding it to my "library". wink
Posted: Wed, 23rd Aug 2006, 9:48pm

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Penguin

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I'm working out a way to make it with the neon light engine but it would be time consuming and would make a bad preset because it kind of has to be done with specific footage in mind.
Posted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007, 12:28am

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Mandalorian

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You could make you're lightning effect with the neon light into stock footage, then people could composite it easier.
Posted: Fri, 26th Jan 2007, 1:09am

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hey im working on that and i expect it to be done soon
Posted: Mon, 29th Jan 2007, 8:35pm

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Mandalorian

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Hey buddies, i found this a while ago and just thought of posting it. It was made by Ryan Wieber in after effects using a particle engine. It got me to thinking, could this be accomplished with Effectslab? Let me know what you think.

http://www.ryan-w.com/ryan-w/clips/lightning_duel.mov
Posted: Wed, 31st Jan 2007, 7:58pm

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Mandalorian

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I just thought of something else. I know people have requested a lightning engine, and i thinki found a way that might be theasable (sp?).

Make a 2 point neon light section. Make thickness modifier of the band of light. Use a length mapped wave system (like the grade wave) to give the line amplitude and frequency. Have a thickness randomizer to give the lightning more variety.

Just a thought, let me know what you guys think biggrin .
Posted: Thu, 1st Feb 2007, 12:16am

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Mandalorian wrote:

Hey buddies, i found this a while ago and just thought of posting it. It was made by Ryan Wieber in after effects using a particle engine. It got me to thinking, could this be accomplished with Effectslab?
From the looks of it, that could certainly be done in Elab. If you don't have a continuous bolt of lightning, but rather a stream of small chunks, as in this clip, Penguin could handle it easily.
Posted: Thu, 1st Feb 2007, 7:29pm

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Mandalorian

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I'll give it a shot and let you guys see it when i'm done.
Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007, 2:12am

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Merrick

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Force lightning is a very difficult effect, but I have some ideas that may make it more believable. First, use a strobe light when filming your actor. This will make it seem like the lightning is actually there. This second idea is one that I have not tried, but it sounds good to me. It might be usable to create force lightning wrapping around an object. Mask the object that is being shocked, then apply a displacement map to it. Finally, add your force lightning and another copy of your shot at the bottom to serve as the background. In theory, the displacement map will warp the lightning to make it seem to wrap around the actor.
Posted: Mon, 16th Apr 2007, 6:48pm

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Mandalorian

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That sounds like a great idea with the warp filter. Still, there is the issue of making the lightning footage in the first place, but once we get there, that would only make the effect that much better.
Posted: Wed, 18th Apr 2007, 4:11pm

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Merrick

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There are some nice force lightning plugins under the downloads section. I bet you could work with one of them.
Posted: Fri, 20th Apr 2007, 6:56pm

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Mandalorian

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Yes, i've tried those. I've made some stock footage of my own in AE at school and will probably make some more. The reason being that all the plugins are 3 or 4 arcs of lightning and they come to a point. It seems that this suggestion would work a lot better with single arcs to modify seperately so that's what i'm going to try.
Posted: Fri, 20th Apr 2007, 7:56pm

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Merrick

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Sounds good to me. Hey when you finish your force lightning stock will you post it in the alamdv2 plugins so that us people who don't have AE can use it.
Posted: Fri, 20th Apr 2007, 11:04pm

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You can no longer submit anything to the AlamDV plug-ins section. When it is completed sometime in the future, FXVault will be ideal for that sort of thing, but in the meantime, stock footage creators will just have to host their stuff on their own space, if they want to make it available for other users to download.
Posted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007, 4:30pm

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I have a question: how do you use that (http://fxhome.com/alamdv2/plugins/info_cache/plugin1200.html) effect? I put it over the footage, but it was just a black box. It annoyed me.
Posted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007, 6:40pm

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Mandalorian

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You do that with composite lab. Effectslab doesn't allow you to change the transfer mode of images or footage. Screen will work if you get a compositing program. Or you can use the value key.

As for the lightning stock footage, i'll upload it somewhere, hopefully soon. Me and some of my friends are looking into getting a website so I'll let you know.
Posted: Thu, 26th Apr 2007, 5:37pm

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Merrick

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You can key out a black background in Elab. Just set the composite to "add" or "screen." Mandalorian, you can get a site for free from www.freewebs.com , to upload videos, though, you'd probably need some more space. You can try www.photobucket.com and link to it from your website. Hope this helps. wink