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Adding preset straight to a grading object? [ANSWER]

Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 4:41am

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outerringz

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Okay guys, I 've been through the manual, and the forum, and all though preset question have been beaten to death in both, I haven't found anything to address my specific issue. I'm trying to create a preset for simulated narrow depth of field. Here is what I'm doing.

1. Importing my source video of a close-up of a man with background behind him about 10-15 feet away.
2. Adding a grade object layer on top of my video.
3. Adding a gaussian blur to the grade object layer.
4. Adding an oval mask, with about a 30 point Feather to the grade object layer and keyframing it to follow the man's head movements which brings his face back to focus while leaving the background blurred and giving the appearence of a narrow depth of field.

Here is the problem.
The effect works pretty well. But when I save out the preset, and then try to use it, the gaussian blur and mask are applied to the source footage, not a grade object layer on top of the source video without adding that layer manually first.

Is there a way to save the preset so that when you apply it, it adds the grade object layer and then applies the gaussian blur and mask to the newly created grade object instead having to manaully create the grade object layer and then applying my presets to it? I know this sounds like I'm just lazy, but I have a lot of shots to apply this effect to and being able to simply import the sorce clip and apply the preset without having to first create that grade object layer will save me time by the time I've done all this footage.

Thanks
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 10:01am

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Redhawksrymmer

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You could write in the description of your topic that it has to be applied to a grade object engine to work... you would then have to create a grade object layer and apply the grading effect to that layer. smile
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 7:23pm

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outerringz

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Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do. I was just hoping there was a way to save the preset with all of the components together. Not a big deal, just another step.

Thanks for the post.
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 5:41am

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Axeman

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Yeah, when you apply grading presets you have to have a layer selected first; they won't create layers for you as far as I know. I'll ask the guys about the feasability of this as a future feature.
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 6:28am

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outerringz

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I think it would be a cool feature. It would offer some additional flexibility when building presets, and keep them very simple to re-use without a bunch of additional instructions and steps involved in recreating the effect for others using the presets.
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 8:57am

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Cogz

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If you have to add this particular grading preset to lots of grading objects, you could simply copy and paste the grading object itself.

I can see what you mean about trying to save time, but if you had some presets which created "grading objects", and some which didn't, it would soon get very confusing. I can't imagine people would want 2 lists of presets, maybe a toggle switch, or keyboard shortcut could be added so that it would apply the preset to a new grading object, instead of to the footage. Maybe we'll see something like this in the future.
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 2:13pm

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outerringz

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A keyboard shortcut is a good idea. Maybe when you hold down [selected key] and apply the preset it adds an object layer and applies the preset to that layer, otherwise it just applies to your source footage as usual. That way the layer object information would not be stored in the preset.

Copy and paste will work for my current project

Thanks!