You are viewing an archive of the old fxhome.com forums. The community has since moved to hitfilm.com.

My 35mm adaptor

Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 7:05am

Post 1 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Rating: +6

Hey everyone,

I have just finished the script for a short i'm working on. I just got a dvx100a with a bogen manfrontto tripod (501 head), and an oktava mk-012 mic. I have been on a DIY frenzy lately and recently made a dolly and jib arm.

I have recently made a static 35mm adaptor. There is virtually no vignetting at all. Here are some screen grabs from it. I will post some pictures of it attached to my camera and of it alone as soon as I find the cable for my digital camera.

Let me know what you think. If you have any questions about the adaptor at all just PM me.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/12262/1153381128.tif
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2244/adaptor5wp6.png
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7886/adaptor3gm4.png
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4031/adaptor4cy9.png
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2222/adaptor6el7.png

-Logan
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 7:20am

Post 2 of 69

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Sounds like you're living the dream, man.

An actual nice, name brand tripod, a crane, and external mic, a camera from the DVX line, and a 35mm adapter. Hot damn!

BTW, those stills look NICE. Did you make your adapter out of PVC, and did you use ground glass or waxed glass. If ground, did you grind it yourself?
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 7:24am

Post 3 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Heh, a little sarcastic there?

I used a Nikon D Focus screen, hard to come by as it's out of production, but I found one on ebay. Yes, its out of PVC. If you give me your e-mail I can e-mail you a PDF file with the step-by-step instructions. And, the link to the author from DVXuser.com

Thanks for the reply.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 8:44am

Post 4 of 69

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

No, not really sarcastic. It's just that after anyone gets a good camera the next thing they want is a fluid head. Then a crane and a 35mm adapter. You, my friend, have all the indie filmmaker could ask for. smile

As for sending me the plans, I'd greatly appreciate that! I've seen many designs online and all over DVXUser, but there are so many that it's become a little hard to navigate.

My email address is ben3308@gmail.com and I'll be glad to receive the PDF!

Oh, and how much was the D screen? I've never been able to get one on eBay for lower than 70 bucks, and they're out of stock everywhere else.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 9:12am

Post 5 of 69

devilskater

Force: 581 | Joined: 27th Jun 2002 | Posts: 890

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

Wow, the DOF looks pretty amazing...eventhough the DVX line already has great DOF, but the adapter really pushes the quality a couple of notches up !!!

I was also thinking of building a dolly, jip arm this summer...but I never really thought of building an adapter...hmm..that would probably be a good investment...

can I build an adapter for the Sony DCR TRV 17E ???

cheers,
d.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 9:55am

Post 6 of 69

Redhawksrymmer

Force: 18442 | Joined: 19th Aug 2002 | Posts: 2620

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Wow, that looks awesome! If I may ask, how much did it cost to make? Does it fit on any 72mm filter thread or is it just for the DVX? If you had some sort of PDF file, could you send a link to me via PM?

Last edited Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 3:04pm; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 1:28pm

Post 7 of 69

TimmyD

Force: 2646 | Joined: 18th Feb 2004 | Posts: 2507

EffectsLab Lite User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Email me the PDF! smile

directordude101 [at] gmail [dot] com

Last edited Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 3:52pm; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 3:08pm

Post 8 of 69

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

I want the PDF too! biggrin

pookydapook [at] gmail [dot] com
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 6:28pm

Post 9 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

I just woke up, but i'm gettnig around to the e-mails right now!

It cost about $200 including the lense. As far as the nikon D screen goes, I got lucky and was able to get one for about 80 bucks. It was expensive, but I had every other part soo I couldn't resist. There are other alternatives besides the D screen as well. If you happen to have one of those CD cases AOL sends you in the mail sometimes those work great, if not better than the D screen. It is a kind of "frosty" type case.

And yes, redhawk it can fit any camera, you just use step-up/down rings to attach to your camera.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 6:54pm

Post 10 of 69

SNI BRI

Force: 410 | Joined: 27th Aug 2004 | Posts: 60

CompositeLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Hey there, Very interesed in the plans! Congrats on a sucessfull product. Would you mind sending me the PDF? Brianh88@yahoo.com
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 6:59pm

Post 11 of 69

Serpent

Force: 5426 | Joined: 26th Dec 2003 | Posts: 6515

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

admin (at) cpostudios.com I'd like one as well. I might try doing this later or I at leas would like to see how it works. Cool stuff, thanks in advance. The depth of field range looks great.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 7:13pm

Post 12 of 69

Lior

Force: 3013 | Joined: 27th Jun 2005 | Posts: 377

VisionLab User PhotoKey 4 Pro User Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

can u send me the pdf thankx. Vortexcinema@hotmail.com

Last edited Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 4:58pm; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 7:25pm

Post 13 of 69

GlennS

Force: 1400 | Joined: 28th Oct 2005 | Posts: 49

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User

Gold Member

looks promising !

ghx1138 at hotmail please

Thankx!
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 7:57pm

Post 14 of 69

devilskater

Force: 581 | Joined: 27th Jun 2002 | Posts: 890

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

me too plez: nicdivischek [at] gmail [dot] com
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 8:27pm

Post 15 of 69

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Hehe, people seem to have copied my anti-spam email posting method biggrin
Posted: Sun, 23rd Jul 2006, 8:52pm

Post 16 of 69

devilskater

Force: 581 | Joined: 27th Jun 2002 | Posts: 890

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

yeah, u rock pooky biggrin
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 12:24am

Post 17 of 69

TimmyD

Force: 2646 | Joined: 18th Feb 2004 | Posts: 2507

EffectsLab Lite User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Pooky wrote:

Hehe, people seem to have copied my anti-spam email posting method biggrin
Guilty as charged.
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 5:06am

Post 18 of 69

Atom

Force: 4300 | Joined: 9th May 2004 | Posts: 7014

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Screw spam, I just got my new website email!

Hot damn that looks nice, please post some stills of the cam, seeing as how the number of people requesting them is immense. Me too, btw

dre3308@sbcglobal.net
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 5:48am

Post 19 of 69

xperiment

Force: 10 | Joined: 22nd Apr 2006 | Posts: 255

Windows User

Member

please send me the PDF to
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 12:35pm

Post 20 of 69

ptulip

Force: 0 | Joined: 10th May 2005 | Posts: 2

Member

Can you send me that PDF as well please? thanks in advance.

judgetules AT hotmail DOT com
Posted: Mon, 24th Jul 2006, 3:33pm

Post 21 of 69

TimmyD

Force: 2646 | Joined: 18th Feb 2004 | Posts: 2507

EffectsLab Lite User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

xperiment wrote:

please send me the PDF to
Hey Einstein, he can't email you if he doesn't have your email address.
Posted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006, 5:32am

Post 22 of 69

Atom

Force: 4300 | Joined: 9th May 2004 | Posts: 7014

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

TimmyD wrote:

xperiment wrote:

please send me the PDF to
Hey Einstein, he can't email you if he doesn't have your email address.
It's called personal messaging, Tim. wink
Posted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006, 5:54am

Post 23 of 69

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

It's called "you can't attach files to a PM", bro.
Posted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006, 10:48pm

Post 24 of 69

AAAx2

Force: 2450 | Joined: 11th Mar 2005 | Posts: 111

VisionLab User VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

Guess I'm a little late, but if you wouldn't mind, that PDF sounds mighty good!

sgstudios @ gmail . com

Thanks!
Posted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006, 11:29pm

Post 25 of 69

TheRenegade

Force: 190 | Joined: 2nd Mar 2004 | Posts: 345

MacOS User

Member

These two forums have really enlightened me as to the whole 35mm adapter revolution. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=70 and http://dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?f=47 kudos to making a 35mm adapter (mine looks horrible and just barely gets me a comparable image).
Posted: Sat, 12th Aug 2006, 9:31pm

Post 26 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Ok, everyone, here is some footage from the adaptor.

I know some of it is way blown out in the background, sorry about that. Some shots are pretty shaky as well, it's hard to get used to the extra weight. I really need a follow focus and some rail support.

It lost a little saturation during compression. BTW, there is no CC either.

http://cpostudios.com/mcquiddyfilms/35mmadaptor_test.mov

Thanks to serpent for hosting!

Let me know what you think,

-Logan
Posted: Sun, 13th Aug 2006, 11:59pm

Post 27 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Bump. Anyone?
Posted: Thu, 17th Aug 2006, 8:03pm

Post 28 of 69

Serpent

Force: 5426 | Joined: 26th Dec 2003 | Posts: 6515

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Nice stuff, well done I say. Nice to see it in action.
Posted: Thu, 17th Aug 2006, 9:34pm

Post 29 of 69

sk8npirate

Force: 590 | Joined: 28th Feb 2004 | Posts: 757

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

Great job looks good. Can I ask you what your setup is exactly? I have always had problems with vignetting with my adapter. I am still trying to think of a way to remove my vignetting and I also use the nikon d screen.
Posted: Fri, 18th Aug 2006, 3:51am

Post 30 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Hey Pirate,

I can send you the PDF. What's your e-mail?

-Logan
Posted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007, 4:09pm

Post 31 of 69

Simon K Jones

Force: 27955 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 11683

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User

FXhome Team Member

PDF please. wink If you could chuck it over to team@fxhome.com it'd be grand.
Posted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007, 4:20pm

Post 32 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Sent!
Posted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007, 6:48pm

Post 33 of 69

miker

Force: 386 | Joined: 30th Jul 2005 | Posts: 651

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Looks awesome man. The camera I hope to have by the end of summer. Toss that PDF my way, if you could.

ace_ventura23 [at] hotmail.com
Posted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007, 7:01pm

Post 34 of 69

Garrison

Force: 5404 | Joined: 9th Mar 2006 | Posts: 1530

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Don't know how I missed this thread... may I have a pdf copy?

elementpictures[at]gmail[dot]com

Thank You
Posted: Fri, 6th Jul 2007, 8:27pm

Post 35 of 69

cdolsen

Force: 710 | Joined: 16th Jun 2002 | Posts: 206

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

can i get a copy of the pdf also?
cdolsen@mail.com
Posted: Sat, 7th Jul 2007, 1:06pm

Post 36 of 69

devilskater

Force: 581 | Joined: 27th Jun 2002 | Posts: 890

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

still havent received the pdf file sad

Please send it sad => nicdivischek @ gmail.com
Posted: Sat, 7th Jul 2007, 2:26pm

Post 37 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Hmm, weird, I still had your e-mail from last time. Hopefully it went through this time.
Posted: Sat, 7th Jul 2007, 4:22pm

Post 38 of 69

FreshMentos

Force: 1667 | Joined: 10th Jun 2006 | Posts: 1141

VisionLab User MacOS User

Gold Member

I actually just read this thread. Could you send me a pdf too please?

supershroom2 [at] yahoo [dot] com
Posted: Sat, 7th Jul 2007, 11:30pm

Post 39 of 69

Merrick

Force: 1067 | Joined: 12th Apr 2007 | Posts: 548

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Oohh, I want one! merrick@zoobuh.com
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 7:03am

Post 40 of 69

rogolo

Force: 5436 | Joined: 29th May 2005 | Posts: 1513

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 4 User MacOS User

Gold Member

I've been in a DIY craze lately...could you send me a copy of the PDF at mark@rogolo.com? Thanks in advance!
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 9:09am

Post 41 of 69

Sollthar

Force: 13360 | Joined: 30th Oct 2001 | Posts: 6094

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Woot! Looks brilliant!

I'd like to have that pdf too, if I may.... Thank you. biggrin

mvmoos@dolphins.ch
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 9:18am

Post 42 of 69

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

I still have the 35mm adapter PDF plans made by Edweirdo on DVXUser that Logan sent me a few months ago, anyone want those?

I'm pretty sure it's freely distributable, as far as I know.
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 11:26am

Post 43 of 69

Katsu

Force: 1757 | Joined: 5th Sep 2003 | Posts: 119

VisionLab User VideoWrap User Windows User FXpreset Maker

Gold Member

That looks brilliant. And without the black "borders" I have seen with others. I'd like the pdf too if its possible. Although I think it would be better to finally upload it somewhere wink

t_fietzek@web.de
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 3:09pm

Post 44 of 69

doppelganger

Force: 134 | Joined: 16th May 2006 | Posts: 1157

MacOS User

Member

OH crap I cant believe I missed this could you send it to

1dollarbudget@gmail.com

thanks
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 4:50pm

Post 45 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Alright, I've sent it out to everyone. If anyone wants to see it in use, check out this thread I posted...
http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30250&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It has the adapter in use, filmed very recently.
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 4:52pm

Post 46 of 69

Serpent

Force: 5426 | Joined: 26th Dec 2003 | Posts: 6515

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

ben3308 wrote:

I still have the 35mm adapter PDF plans made by Edweirdo on DVXUser that Logan sent me a few months ago, anyone want those?

I'm pretty sure it's freely distributable, as far as I know.
Isn't this PDF made by Edweirdo? The pictures are the same as the thread... I only got to page 37 yesterday, though, so I could be wrong. Maybe someone else assembled it based on his info and then he came out with a later one. I'd appreciate the other PDF if you wouldn't mind.

admin -at- cpostudios.com

I'm glad this thread was revived. I ordered my Nikon D screen on eBay for $25, a rare part apparently. smile The rest should be pretty chill. I got extremely lucky.
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 5:01pm

Post 47 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Rating: +1

These are the plans Edweirdo made, just assembled into one PDF file. His original plans are scattered all over the thread, kind of hard to follow.

And, also, if you search the thread on DVXuser, If I'm reading correctly, this screen also works and is brighter than the D-screen
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/402203-REG/Canon_0828B001_Ee_A_Standard_Focusing_Screen.html

It was immediately thrown out because of the spot in the middle, but apparently people have realized that it does work. And might be better than the D-screen. I'd search the thread in dvxuser, see what comes up. That would make assembly 100 times easier to achieve.

EDIT: Just so there isn't any confusion- make sure that if you are tying to build the adapter that you know you CANNOT zoom in with it on. You are always limited to a certain zoom length, for example on the DVX it is zoomed in to z75, the max is, I think, 99. You need different lenses for wide angle, telephoto, etc.

EDIT 2: I just searched a little, and apparently the EE-A screen is better. But in any case, here's a link to find a D-screen.

http://www.amazon.com/Focusing-Screen-Type-D-F3/dp/B00009R92A/sr=1-3/qid=1161748613/ref=sr_1_3/104-7337506-5667115?ie=UTF8&s=photo

Last edited Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 5:18pm; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 5:14pm

Post 48 of 69

doppelganger

Force: 134 | Joined: 16th May 2006 | Posts: 1157

MacOS User

Member

hatsoff2halford wrote:

If I'm reading correctly, this screen also works and is brighter than the D-screen
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/402203-REG/Canon_0828B001_Ee_A_Standard_Focusing_Screen.html
And its cheap thanks, and thanks for the emailing so fast
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 5:19pm

Post 49 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

No problem!
Posted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007, 5:33pm

Post 50 of 69

Serpent

Force: 5426 | Joined: 26th Dec 2003 | Posts: 6515

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Wish I finished the thread. smile I saw the D screen on ebay for cheap and had to snag it. I'm going to use it for now, but maybe I'll upgrade later. Canon > Nikon anyways. My goal is to figure out how to use EOS mount lenses on this adapter. I have a 50mm Macro, 70-200 L series, and a 17-40 L series. That covers a lot of ground and they are nice lenses. Then everytime I shop for my 350D, I could take my GL1 into consideration. smile I want to have it built before July 21st. Also building a jib, and a makeshift dolly. I too am in DIY mode this Summer. It's really fun actually.
Posted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007, 1:12am

Post 51 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Yeah, sorry about finding the new screen. I didn't think this thread would come back up, so I didn't even think about posting.

But yeah, building it was actually a lot of fun, same with my jib.
Posted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007, 5:28pm

Post 52 of 69

AG Productions

Force: 160 | Joined: 13th May 2006 | Posts: 24

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

Would it be too late to send me the PDF manual?
Cheers smile

mrwrightson@googlemail.com
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 7:38am

Post 53 of 69

Serpent

Force: 5426 | Joined: 26th Dec 2003 | Posts: 6515

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Hey guys. I've been researching 35mm adapters for the past week. Lots of reading. I finally came accross this:

http://www.jetsetmodels.info/pics/diy_35dof_video.mov
http://www.jetsetmodels.info/static.htm
(His tutorials section covers putting the GG holder in the macro tube, btw.)

Basically it's a 35mm DIY adapter that should only cost about $100 to make if you make it static (ie, don't bother with cutting the hole, using the phone cord, or buying the screen mount + motor). All you do is assemble some macro tubes with UV/Clear filters to keep dust out, pop in your screen with premade holder at the right distance, and you're done. One problem you might run into is focusing on the screen. Solving it is easy, an achromat macro (which would also eliminate any possible chromatic aberration.) I'm still searching for a cheap option. Right now my rig is $109 without the lenses or a lens support/rod system. I already have 3 nice EOS lenses though, but if you want to slap on some lenses you have or can obtain from old photography filters, you can get an EOS > Nikon, Canon FD, Minolta etc. converter for next to nothing. So my rig will cost $200 at most (lens supports are expensive, but I might try making one...) and it's going to be really easy to put together and it'll look damn sleek as well. Not to mention it works with my EOS lenses.

EDIT: I found a good +5.4 achromat...on his website. They are really cheap. That site is a fantastic resource for making these things cheap and easy.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 3:08pm

Post 54 of 69

devilskater

Force: 581 | Joined: 27th Jun 2002 | Posts: 890

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

that is pretty awsome serpent, great find !

1+

cheers,
d.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 3:12pm

Post 55 of 69

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Serpent, you're just like me, but 5 months ago. Haha.

After intensive researching for weeks, I found it would be ultimately more efficient to purchase an SGPro adapter (better achromat than the M2 and the Brevis); because of the clarity, stability, and professionalism with which it is made. A DIY adapter is fine for messing around with, but it wouldn't be anything I could professionally shoot anything like music videos or the like with.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 4:48pm

Post 56 of 69

AG Productions

Force: 160 | Joined: 13th May 2006 | Posts: 24

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

Rating: +1

Here's a good little video on making a static adapter, if anyone's interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivErUHl-Yo
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 4:52pm

Post 57 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Ben...have you researched all possible options? The M2, Brevis, SGPro, and I'm not sure if you know about the IFocus, or Snodart's DIY 35mm adapter which is completely amazing, or the Go35?

Each and every one produces a completely different look and different flavor of DOF. There are numerous options that cost much less than the SGPRO and don't require sometimes a over a month long wait or rail support.

I'm not trying to start an argument or something, I'm just letting people know that with enough time they can easily build a vibrating adapter that looks just as good as the sgpro. Take a look at Snodart's tutorial, his adapter is absolutely amazing. I can't see how you can say a DIY adapter wouldn't cut it for something like a music video, if that's the case, then you need to do some more research. There are plenty of people using DIY adapters on things like that. It is all a matter of opinion, it would take extensive research to find which adapter provides you with the look you want.

The Brevis, for example, provides a more dream like feel that the SGPro would. And if that's something you like, it would be a good option. The Ifocus is absolutely amazing, reminds me a lot of the Cinemek 35 adapter (hasn't been released yet) which was thought to be the ends-all to adapters when its first beta was released.

And, of course, it depends if you want a vibrating adapter, spinning adapter, or static adapter. That all depends on your needs too. If you have a vibrating or spinning you obviously need some sort of energy source (usually batteries). A vibrating adapter will sometimes have black blurrs on the screen because of dust just being vibrated back and forth, and a static adapter would have dust as well, you just need some compressed air. A vibrating adapter literally vibrates the GG around, so at high shutter speeds the GG can be caught "mid-vibrate" and a sort of swirling blurr becomes obvious. A spinning adapter can cause noise, and are very large and bulky. You NEED rod support, and you NEED a tripod that can handle the weight. There will definitely be no hand held with a spinning adapter. However, if you have the money, a spinning adapter is the best for image quality because of the range of shutter speeds and apertures available.

In no way at all am I starting some argument with you Ben, you're completely correct. If you have the money to spend and the equipment to handle it, the SGPRO is an amazing adapter. Definitely the best, or close to it. I'm just letting people know that they CAN build a nice static or vibrating, or even spinning adapter with a little bit of research and patients. If done correctly they can produce an amazing adapter which, definitely, if used properly by the operator, could be used for a music video.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 11:27pm

Post 58 of 69

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

My problem is that whenever I invest in a DIY solution that requires fine-tuning and precision adjustment, much like a 35mm adapter or the tension-controlled crane I've built; it tends to be more cost effective and generally a better investment to just pony up and buy a manfactured product.

I'm all for DIY dolly and lighting solutions, but for more intricate things I think- if you're doing contracted video work- it's better to spend money on something that has a guarantee to last without failing; at least more so than a DIY solution.

About the Brevis: "dreamlike" results aren't quite what I thought people would look for in an adapter. Rather, I thought it was unanimous that the most sought-after elements were easy setup, low light loss, and high/sharp clarity. I've seen so many people buy cheaper solutions to the M2 and SGPro like the Letus35, only to get completely inferior results.

If you're only looking to spend a little bit of money, I'd say DIY is FOR SURE the best solution. Snodart's idea is great, I've actually tried it halfway. But if you are going to spend more than 200 or 300 dollars, I highly recommend the SGPro.

To each his own, I guess. I'm not trying to argue either, just giving my two cents.
Posted: Fri, 13th Jul 2007, 5:00pm

Post 59 of 69

AG Productions

Force: 160 | Joined: 13th May 2006 | Posts: 24

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

Hi guys.
I know this isn't a 35mm adapter support site, but I have one question: is the filter thread on my canon mv890 too small to mount the adapter on to?

Here's a picture: http://www.digitalni-videokamery-fotoaparaty.cz/zbozi/1885_original.jpg

Cheers
Posted: Fri, 13th Jul 2007, 7:50pm

Post 60 of 69

Serpent

Force: 5426 | Joined: 26th Dec 2003 | Posts: 6515

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

I'm assuming it is very small, but no, it can still work. You just need a proper step down ring. One end will be the size of the last set of threads on your adaptor, the other the size of your camera. But with that tiny thing you will need to get support rods or some kind of lens support system.
Posted: Fri, 13th Jul 2007, 8:01pm

Post 61 of 69

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Ah...Ben, I'm an idiot. For some reason when you said SGpro I was thinking of the Redrock adapter...which is much more expensive. Sorry for the mistake redface
Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2007, 2:20am

Post 62 of 69

Super Cameraman

Force: 430 | Joined: 25th May 2003 | Posts: 242

Windows User

Gold Member

Is it too late to get this PDF?

supercameraman AT gmail DOT com


SCM
Posted: Sat, 4th Aug 2007, 6:20pm

Post 63 of 69

LeeMaisel

Force: 1400 | Joined: 26th Sep 2006 | Posts: 17

VisionLab User

Gold Member

Why didnt he just post a link here to the PDF instead of having to email it to everyone? I'd sure like a copy too! smile

lee (at) maiseldata (dot) com
Posted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2007, 11:15pm

Post 64 of 69

cdolsen

Force: 710 | Joined: 16th Jun 2002 | Posts: 206

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

if still possible can i also have the pdf?
cdolsen@mail.com

why not save a lot of work and create a sticky in the forum?
Posted: Tue, 4th Sep 2007, 1:19am

Post 65 of 69

Serpent

Force: 5426 | Joined: 26th Dec 2003 | Posts: 6515

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Rating: +2

cdolsen wrote:

if still possible can i also have the pdf?
cdolsen@mail.com

why not save a lot of work and create a sticky in the forum?
There are too many stickies. It's as simple as that. What we need is an updated UFAQ to fit the new design. But I know that that is really hard work and the people who do it are rather busy. I just hate when the top of forums are loaded to the brim with separate stickies. I think an index of resources and important topics is a superior way to utilize stickies and have everything centralized. That's what the UFAQ is for.

Here is the PDF to save the trouble:

http://cpostudios.com/s_35mm_adapter.pdf
Posted: Tue, 4th Sep 2007, 8:14pm

Post 66 of 69

cdolsen

Force: 710 | Joined: 16th Jun 2002 | Posts: 206

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

thank you!
Posted: Tue, 4th Sep 2007, 8:15pm

Post 67 of 69

cdolsen

Force: 710 | Joined: 16th Jun 2002 | Posts: 206

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

thank you!
Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2007, 8:36pm

Post 68 of 69

Jucemar

Force: 800 | Joined: 16th Feb 2006 | Posts: 7

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User

Gold Member

Serpent wrote:

cdolsen wrote:

if still possible can i also have the pdf?
cdolsen@mail.com

why not save a lot of work and create a sticky in the forum?
There are too many stickies. It's as simple as that. What we need is an updated UFAQ to fit the new design. But I know that that is really hard work and the people who do it are rather busy. I just hate when the top of forums are loaded to the brim with separate stickies. I think an index of resources and important topics is a superior way to utilize stickies and have everything centralized. That's what the UFAQ is for.

Here is the PDF to save the trouble:

http://cpostudios.com/s_35mm_adapter.pdf
Man, I really appreciate that.
Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2007, 3:06am

Post 69 of 69

Horcruxes88

Force: 400 | Joined: 15th Aug 2006 | Posts: 94

CompositeLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Dude the pics are great can you please send me the pfd if you dont mind silvaam45@yahoo.com thanks so much