Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 4:31am
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Hi, I wondered if anyone could volunteer some info on effectslab. I use a canopus powered product Edius and Storm (storm codec) and I wondered whether or not effects lab had any issues with such. Does effects lab stand alone or does it intergrate with editing programs - in my case Edius/Storm (Canopus). If it stands alone does it work by importing avi's and mpegs and then you work with these clips within effects lab and later you export the avi/mpeg as file and then re-import into the timeline of your editing program.
Also I'm not really after anything too finnicky. I don't particularly want to create new effects. I'd like to just get an existing effect that I want and drop it straight in the shot and perhaps do some slight grading/ resizing and motion tracking on the effect. What would be the best program for me to obtain?
I noticed that there are effects available created by other users - they look great. Are these free - is there a limit to what I can download?
MOD NOTE: Moved from EffectsLab Help.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 4:46am
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Hey, welcome to FXhome! I hope these answers help you.
1) EffectsLab is a stand alone program that works by importing .avi and .mov video files, work with the clips in EffectsLab, then render to .avi or .mov format and import that into your editing program. EffectsLab can also work with image streams.
2) What kind of effect is it that you want to work with? Is it stock footage or would it be something you would create in EffectsLab and use over again? If it's just stock footage and all you plan on doing is grading it, you might want to look into CompositeLab as it has more grading features than EffectsLab does.
3) Yes, all presets are free to download once you have registered your product. The only thing that limits which ones you can download is which product(s) you own (i.e. if you only own EffectsLab Lite you cannot download EffectsLab Pro or VisionLab presets).
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 5:04am
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Thanks so much for your speedy reply.
I guess I really want to work with just stock footage - assuming there is a lot to choose from. So for example I film a guy shooting a gun and I want to stick on a muzzle blast. I just want to be able to take my raw footage and put the muzzle blast on and then send back to my timeline and continue editing. Naturally I'd like it to be as realistic and as high res as possible. The resizing and positioning of the effect is important as well and so is the grading of the effect - so for example if the gun is fired in daylight then the effect would need to be less pronounced compared to if the gun was fired at night. My thinking is that with so many pre-set effects available why would one bother to create?
Also is it possible in any of the FX programs to resize (say zoom in, tighten and reposition slightly) my existing footgae once it is imported into the FX program.
And do you know if the Storm Codec is an issue?
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 5:23am
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Muzzle flashes aren't really stock footage, they're a generated effect. For what you're describing, it sounds like EffectsLab would be perfect. You can import your footage, add a muzzle flash and tweak it to your liking, then grade it and your footage so that they match each other, and then render your footage and import it into your editing program. If you work with uncompressed footage you shouldn't lose any quality. Well the presets are great, but sometimes there won't be one that won't work with your footage or be exactly what you want it to be so you create your own (it's really pretty easy to create a good looking muzzle flash in EffectsLab). Also some people don't like using something that someone else made and get more satisfaction from making the effects themselves so they choose to make their own. It really depends on personal preference and what you need.
Yes, you can animate and resize your footage within the FXhome products.
And I'm not sure what the Storm Codec is but I doubt the FXhome products will be compatible with it. You'll need to render from your editing program in either .avi or .mov format.
Once again, I hope this helps.
Also, you could download the demo
and see if it can do what you need.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 5:42am
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That's great Harvey - many thanks.
So effects lab is for standard effects placement on an existing avi or mov.
Composite lab is more suitable for keying backgrounds and using green screen work and actually creating effects and vision studio is both - with a license and that brings me to my next question. I glimpsed something on the site about a credit for FXhome to go on my productions if I don't have the license?
I'm finished hassling you now I promise.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 6:06am
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As far as the credit, If you are using any of the programs other than VisionLab, you have to have FXhome listed in your credits. How you credit them is up to you ( it can be just another name in a rolling list of credits, it can be a logo, or it can be one of the snazzy animated clips that are available), but the credit has to be there.
For projects where it simly isn't possible (tv commercials, for example) to have a credit, VisionLab makes a full commercial license available.
Download the EffectsLab demo, which comes witha variety of muzzle flash presets, as well as other effects, and have a go at placing a few onto a movie. As the generated muzzle flashes are 3d, you can adjust them to any angle, to match the muzzle of the gun in the shot. You will soon see how simple it is, and the quality of the available effects.
To clarify a bit; EffectsLab creates effects. It internally generates Muzzle Flashes, neon light effects (most commonly light sabers), Lens Flares, and particle effects. So when using these effects, all can be created from presets, but since they are generated within the app, every aspect of them is still editable by you, if you feel so inclined. EffectsLab also has limited abilities to composite stock footage into your movie. This ability is optimised to work with footage such as explosions and fire, where the effect is a light source, or footage pre-rendered with an alpha channel.It also has a limited selection of grading filters.
CompositeLab is designed for all sorts of compositing. Greenscreening is a snap, you can also use garbage mattes and masks to block out any part of a clip that you want. It also has a great deal of Grading filters, for powerful color grading capabilities.
VisoinLab has all of the above, plus more grading filters, and a commercial license. Look at the product pages for a list of the acual effects and filters included in each program. Download the demos and give 'em a try. They come with quickstart tutorials to walk you through the basics.