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GL2/XM2 HDV Successor!

Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 4:07pm

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Rating: +1

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16:9, 24fps, 20x zoom, 1080i, 2.8in LCD, XLR imputs, 4000 & 7000 $
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 4:15pm

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I will get one of these to add to my arsenal.

The XHG1 for me.

Look forward to reading/hearing more about it in the coming weeks.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 4:17pm

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Your arsenal? .....darn you razz
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 4:19pm

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woohahahahahwo, niiiiiice, now if only i could afford it...

dang
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 4:55pm

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Holy poopy. Even though I hate hate hate HDV with a vengeance, I'm gonna have to buy one of these.

They should've named it the GL3 or the GLH1.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 5:11pm

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eek

*stares in complete awe*
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 5:16pm

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Hey, I just realized, now I have something new to persuade people to buy!
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 5:45pm

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Being a Canon I very much doubt FXhome will get one of these after the terrible experience we had with the XM2 and the terrible customer support Canon have in general. Note it doesn't do real 24P just like the XL H1.

I expect the HVX200 is the way we'll end up going next year.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 5:48pm

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HVX is the most amazing prosumer camera out. Each time I see footage of it, I still get blown away. Amazing.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 6:19pm

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hatsoff2halford wrote:

HVX is the most amazing prosumer camera out. Each time I see footage of it, I still get blown away. Amazing.
My vote goes to the XL H1 and Sony Z1.

The Z1 generally just blows me away. I can't wait to try the Mini35 adapter on it smile


This XHG1 though. Looks like a certain buy for me (as I previously said). It's quality - judging by the now updated link - says it matches with the XL H1.

Yum.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 6:24pm

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No really. The HVX200 is incredible. and it's cheaper than this.


Canon riding on it's name? yes.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 6:54pm

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and the HVX has variable framerates. 24p, 30p, and anywhere from 4-60p...Other than the HVX my second choice would be the JVC HD100, interchangable lenses, 24p, True 720p.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 6:56pm

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Yeah, the Canon doesn't comes close to the HVX for me and I would also rate the JVC rather higher from what I've read so far.

Canon don't make professional cameras where Panasonic are one of the top companies around in the profressional market. The HXV is pretty much a pro HD camera in all but price. If you have to use HDV then the JVC does a great job of not totally limiting your options.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 6:59pm

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Gah, that site fooled me. It looks pretty, but this picture led me to believe it had interchangeable lenses:



smile
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 7:16pm

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I think the XM2 was a great buy though I can appreciate a bad past experience can put you off a brand. I am very satisfied with the results of the XM2, you can see them for yourselves on the BtL footage (or get to see when the movie is finished). I don't think I'm going to get too involved with HDV, I have heard alot of bad press about compression, I haven't really pursued the facts about this yet so I'm not too clued up on it. I'm not going to be getting another Canon product, not from a bad experience but because I have fallen in love with the Panasonic P2, I had a tinker with one of these and I was impressed. I'm going to be selling my XM2 before christmas to help with the costs.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 7:21pm

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I'm just going to wait for RED smile .
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 8:33pm

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Wow u can afford red?????? I wish i canget my hands on it. I herd there comming with a cam that will top red. I herd this in the expo in nyc in jacob javitz center. So far i have yet to see any acual movies even made by red. So far its all hype. Even if i had the money id invetigate it havily before buying.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 8:35pm

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/me gets light headed and drowns in my spaghetti O's......
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 8:40pm

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Again, all this talk of cameras (Even though I personally think this new Canon camera is lovely, because the handling and design of the XM2 was nearing perfection ((and probably the reason I love Z1/FX1))).

1) Film with what your happy with.

2) Don't film anything to do with lightsabers.

3) Make good movies.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 8:52pm

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I can do 2 and 3, but I can't do 1 because my camera's footage is ugly. razz
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 9:39pm

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I'm perfectly happy with my FX1 at the moment. I'm travelling to New York in a few months, and I might visit a camera store to see how it is (also need to check out the HDX1, just to see how it is). It's really hard to get by camcorders like this in Sweden so that should be fun. Any (semipro - pro) camcorder stores you can recommend from Manhattan? smile
Posted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006, 9:53pm

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I know B&H is somewhere in N.Y, I think New York, N.Y. They would deff. have all the cameras you would want to try out.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jul 2006, 3:12am

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In B and H there is a train set circled by every popular camera on the market mounted on expensive tripods and you are free to mess with all of them. They also have everything you could imagine and a way to transport products (conveyer belt type thing) on the ceiling. It's the best store evar! However: they are closed at what seems to be random hours because it is run by hessitic Jews. So, make sure to read up on the hours or you'll find yourself missing it often.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jul 2006, 9:52am

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Ah, thanks. Will definently try to check that store out! smile Oh, and since the XLH1 has HD-SDI outputs (making it support 1080P) wouldn't the XH G1 support 1080P too?
Posted: Thu, 27th Jul 2006, 2:23pm

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Posted: Thu, 27th Jul 2006, 3:24pm

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Looks very good on the face of it. Lets just hope they live up to what they promise. They look like an FX1/Z1 killers for sure which is their target comparison of course. Looking at the HVX200 that some have compared this too I dont really see them occupying quite the same area of the market and for all the panasonics great specification it's sales are still hamstrung by the substantial pricetag of the P2 media. That really limits it to those that can afford to pay the huge price of p2 media on top of the price of the camcorder which is no small financial burden an certainly doesnt include me or many other hobbiest film makers. Great camcorder for sure but way out of most peoples price range to get a useable setup. Sad but true. If I can afford it however I'll be selling all my other camcorders to get one of these canons (the cheaper one) but only after I've seen it reviewed in a few places. I have an XM2 and couldn't be happier with it so far and also am using an HDV sony unit without any of the issues that the doomsayers like to claim for this format. Dont know when these new canons will be available in pal versions but I do look forward to it with baited breath.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jul 2006, 3:33pm

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Guys, don't waste your hard earned cash on HDV. I tis a transition format. It WILL disappear sooner than later.

Besides, it's crap for most things FX wise or action wise...

As for the P2, there's a firestore protable drive now that is much more affordable.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jul 2006, 3:43pm

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John Carter is right on the money!

Say no to HDV! Wait a little bit and real HD will be here.
Posted: Fri, 28th Jul 2006, 12:10am

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Sorry. I couldn't wait.

Good enough for me, and it'll be damned good enough for you.
Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006, 7:37am

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Here's a good side-by-side feature comparison of the Canon XH A1, XH G1, XL H1, Sony HDR-FX1, and Panasonic HVX200.