You are viewing an archive of the old fxhome.com forums. The community has since moved to hitfilm.com.

New Movie > "The Phone"

Posted: Sun, 20th Aug 2006, 9:33pm

Post 1 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

So basically, I just finished babysitting these kids last week, and while I was there they wanted to make a movie. So we zipped over to my house, I grabbed my GL2, notebook, and firewire cable, and drove back. Then I asked the kids what they wanted to do, and they said they already knew, that I should just record it. So I did.



I think I added a little more intensity to it than the kids wanted, but they loved it. The music is repetitive, I know, but after 500 test songs on iTunes, that's what the kids wanted. The youngest one, the boy, was pretty demanding about me finishing the movie, so it's edited very quickly. I'm also not usually the editor on Atomic stuff, so this may feel a bit different.

So this movie's not the best in the world. But I still think it's pretty okay. Take a look. Don't expect anything phenomenal. As is the case with some of Atomic's recent stuff, this is was made in the quick, fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants, only-one-day-to-make-it fashion.

Click here to watch. About 3:30 minutes, 43mb, higher resolution.

Oh, and the girl with the braids got them taken out as soon as she saw this video. I wonder why. wink
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 12:22am

Post 2 of 41

Sollthar

Force: 13360 | Joined: 30th Oct 2001 | Posts: 6094

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Good stuff, good lighting/colors. Same strengths as usual, same shakey handycam. smile

We all know you can make stuff quickly etc. Now go make a real movie... Off off you go. smile
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 12:22am

Post 3 of 41

Hybrid-Halo

Force: 9315 | Joined: 7th Feb 2003 | Posts: 3367

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

I'm not downloading 45mb for 3 minutes.

If you're publishing in a digital medium to an internet audience with the intentions of appearing 'somewhat professional' then address this issue.

Compress it to less than 15 and we'll get talking wink

-Hybrid.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 12:27am

Post 4 of 41

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Less than 15? That's pretty radical, most people are on broadband nowadays... 20-25 is more like it.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 12:31am

Post 5 of 41

Hybrid-Halo

Force: 9315 | Joined: 7th Feb 2003 | Posts: 3367

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Pooky wrote:

Less than 15? That's pretty radical, most people are on broadband nowadays... 20-25 is more like it.
The recommended filesize with retaining quality in mind is something like 2-3mb a minute. 15mb is more than generous. Though whatever the case, 45mb remains ridiculous.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:01am

Post 6 of 41

Bryce007

Force: 1910 | Joined: 5th Apr 2003 | Posts: 2609

VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

I find 2-3mb a minute to be terrifically bad looking. I prefer less people to see it if it means that I won't have to sacrifice all the work I did to make it look great.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:05am

Post 7 of 41

Pooky

Force: 4834 | Joined: 8th Jul 2003 | Posts: 5913

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Ditto.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:05am

Post 8 of 41

Sollthar

Force: 13360 | Joined: 30th Oct 2001 | Posts: 6094

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Otto
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:06am

Post 9 of 41

er-no

Force: 9531 | Joined: 24th Sep 2002 | Posts: 3964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

I'm not sure what to make of this Ben.

? I guess its what you made it to be. cool
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:12am

Post 10 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

I know it's not the best, but I didn't really think it was that bad. Just something I thought I'd put up here for the hell of it.

I dunno if any of you guys have ever made movies with solely little kids, but it ain't easy.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:14am

Post 11 of 41

Arktic

Force: 9977 | Joined: 10th Nov 2003 | Posts: 2785

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Yeah... not that much to say about this one.

Pretty standard FXhome fare, I won't comment on the plot or the acting, as these were out of your hands - but the camerawork was particularly seisure-inducing, and the editing could've been a bit tighter. The effects integration was basically none; that shot should've been a LOT better.

As Sollthar says, you've apparently got tallent. We all know that. So go make something worthwhile!

Cheers,
Arktic.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:14am

Post 12 of 41

Hybrid-Halo

Force: 9315 | Joined: 7th Feb 2003 | Posts: 3367

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

ben3308 wrote:

I dunno if any of you guys have ever made movies with solely little kids, but it ain't easy.
Er-no did one about a telecommuter once. wink

My nets playing up, any chance of a compressed version?

-Hybrid.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:15am

Post 13 of 41

er-no

Force: 9531 | Joined: 24th Sep 2002 | Posts: 3964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

ben3308 wrote:

I know it's not the best, but I didn't really think it was that bad. Just something I thought I'd put up here for the hell of it.

I dunno if any of you guys have ever made movies with solely little kids, but it ain't easy.
I can imagine they were a bit of a handful to shoot with and for that, kudos. It's hard enough getting 420 military guys to listen to you on set, but I still wouldn't swap them for a few kids. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:17am

Post 14 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Arktic wrote:

The effects integration was basically none; that shot should've been a LOT better.
Aside from some Alam stuff back in '04, I do very little compositing/stock footage keying. I'm a firm believer in practical effects wherever possible, so effects aren't my thing. It was meant as sort of an Andy Milonakis-esque "crappy composite" to add to the cheesiness at the end.

Oh, and I considered putting this in super, super widescreen with almost indescribably harsh contrast, but I decided not to.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:33am

Post 15 of 41

rogolo

Force: 5436 | Joined: 29th May 2005 | Posts: 1513

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 4 User MacOS User

Gold Member

Rating: +1

Well, I guess 43 MB isn't HUGE, but my problem was the slow download...not sure 'bout other people but I clocked in around 30kbps. Maybe a faster download would be better...

Last edited Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 3:22am; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:37am

Post 16 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

My server is so slow. I have no idea why.

Anyways, here's a seven meg file.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 1:45am

Post 17 of 41

Fill

Force: 1257 | Joined: 1st Jul 2005 | Posts: 1652

CompositeLab Lite User EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

Urm... o.O

Well, I can see you kept the kids entertained. razz
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 2:08am

Post 18 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Heh, like I said, it's not the best.

I did get 240 bucks for babysitting those kids, though. 35mm adapter, here I come.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 3:19am

Post 19 of 41

Maxy

Force: 110 | Joined: 7th Jun 2005 | Posts: 238

CompositeLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

yeh....but you still got it easy.......i filmed for 46 days and the kids are 6 and 7 years!!!!!!!!!! I still respect you thought!!!!!!!!!

peace biggrin
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 4:31am

Post 20 of 41

hatsoff2halford

Force: 1360 | Joined: 6th Feb 2005 | Posts: 360

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

I thought it was good for what it was.

Are you planning on building an adaptor, or buying one?
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 5:02am

Post 21 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

I'm undecided. My dad is discouraging me building one; but that's all I have the money to do at the moment. If he contributes money towards buying one to keep me from building my own, then I'll of course buy one. Too bad my brother will never pay for any of it. Cheapo.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 9:00am

Post 22 of 41

ashman

Force: 4913 | Joined: 10th Sep 2005 | Posts: 904

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

When is Splinter cell coming?
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 11:42am

Post 23 of 41

TimmyD

Force: 2646 | Joined: 18th Feb 2004 | Posts: 2507

EffectsLab Lite User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

I hate working with stubborn little kids. Kudos for pulling it off, even though it didn't turn out fantastic. It was, however, out of your hands.

P.S. You could tell the gun the blonde girl had was plastic because of the way her hand was shaking. It's hard to explain.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 11:57am

Post 24 of 41

Redhawksrymmer

Force: 18442 | Joined: 19th Aug 2002 | Posts: 2620

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Pretty nice, it's really hard to film something with young children...heh, I like the way the young boy looks when the girl explodes. Now that's acting! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 2:16pm

Post 25 of 41

Jazzmanian

Force: 765 | Joined: 3rd May 2006 | Posts: 719

CompositeLab Pro User Windows User

Gold Member

Actually, I thought the kids did a pretty fair job for their part, given the ages involved. And normally I hate movies starring kids.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 2:22pm

Post 26 of 41

Maxy

Force: 110 | Joined: 7th Jun 2005 | Posts: 238

CompositeLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

oh by the way where do buy these 35mm adaptors you lot were talkin about on the other post?!.....i know this is completely off the subject but i just want to know!
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 5:04pm

Post 27 of 41

Garfield Street

Force: 360 | Joined: 16th Jan 2006 | Posts: 256

EffectsLab Pro User Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

I actually liked this film. For the limited time, and actors I thought it came out quite nice. Great job!
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 10:12pm

Post 28 of 41

ssj john

Force: 563 | Joined: 4th Nov 2003 | Posts: 795

Windows User MacOS User

Member

rogolo wrote:

Well, I guess 43 MB isn't HUGE, but my problem was the slow download...not sure 'bout other people but I clocked in around 30kbps. Maybe a faster download would be better...
WOW that was generous

Hahahahaha "No stop!! my phone!!!" , sad thing is...that's really is how some teenagers are about there "cell phones" they seem to think they are there most important possesion.
anyways movie....Yeah ben go make a real movie....or release splinter cell already....I don't know but I want to see something serious from you guys. Something you put time into. Cuz I'm positive you can entertain me...
OUT!

-JOHN-
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 10:18pm

Post 29 of 41

rogolo

Force: 5436 | Joined: 29th May 2005 | Posts: 1513

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 4 User MacOS User

Gold Member

ssj john wrote:

rogolo wrote:

Well, I guess 43 MB isn't HUGE, but my problem was the slow download...not sure 'bout other people but I clocked in around 30kbps. Maybe a faster download would be better...
WOW that was generous
Hehe...I try. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 10:20pm

Post 30 of 41

ssj john

Force: 563 | Joined: 4th Nov 2003 | Posts: 795

Windows User MacOS User

Member

Hahaha just noticed this second time through....But I love how after the girl blows up/fire vortex sucks her up into thee black abyss. The other girl bends down to get her phone, Not only is the little boy on the wrong side of her, but he keeps his "suprised" look through the whole shot. I found that very funny. That shot alone makes this movie worth it....
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 10:31pm

Post 31 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

ashman wrote:

When is Splinter cell coming?
I dunno. By the looks of my sig, soon enough/sooner than you'd think.

So, 'soon', maybe? smile

Oh, and I know we keep peddling this quick, slightly-above-or-equal-to mediocre stuff; but in all honesty that's whats generally easier and ultimately more fun to make. I'm sure I'll be extremely happy when SC premieres in local theaters (we're hoping!), but filming it is so stressful and strenuous that it's making me lose my passion to even make it. So I gotta have alot of little stuff in between to keep my interest alive.

Maybe that makes sense. Cover's Story came out great, IMO, and it was the most fun I've had making a movie.
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 10:54pm

Post 32 of 41

ssj john

Force: 563 | Joined: 4th Nov 2003 | Posts: 795

Windows User MacOS User

Member

ben3308 wrote:

ashman wrote:

When is Splinter cell coming?
I dunno. By the looks of my sig, soon enough/sooner than you'd think.

So, 'soon', maybe? smile

Oh, and I know we keep peddling this quick, slightly-above-or-equal-to mediocre stuff; but in all honesty that's whats generally easier and ultimately more fun to make. I'm sure I'll be extremely happy when SC premieres in local theaters (we're hoping!), but filming it is so stressful and strenuous that it's making me lose my passion to even make it. So I gotta have alot of little stuff in between to keep my interest alive.

Maybe that makes sense. Cover's Story came out great, IMO, and it was the most fun I've had making a movie.
I know what you mean....We've run into so many problems filming stalker that you almost wanna just say "screw it" and leave it. But you gotta keep going! Because while the little film's are usually the funnest to actually "film" it's the bigger projects that make you feel like you've really accomplished something. At least that's how it for me...
Posted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006, 11:00pm

Post 33 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Exactly my sentiments, man. Exactly.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 12:13am

Post 34 of 41

Jazzmanian

Force: 765 | Joined: 3rd May 2006 | Posts: 719

CompositeLab Pro User Windows User

Gold Member

ben3308 wrote:

I'm sure I'll be extremely happy when SC premieres in local theaters (we're hoping!).
You've got a distribution deal for SC already? Grats! With who? Is there any early promo matierial online yet?
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 12:31am

Post 35 of 41

Hybrid-Halo

Force: 9315 | Joined: 7th Feb 2003 | Posts: 3367

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User FXpreset Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

ben3308 wrote:

ashman wrote:

When is Splinter cell coming?
I dunno. By the looks of my sig, soon enough/sooner than you'd think.
Not really possible, as I thought it was meant to be out 6 months ago. razz
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 12:32am

Post 36 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

No, no, so far just hopes. But it looks likely that my connection with the Dallas Video Association might prove to get us a limited run in two or three theaters. This is all a maybe.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 12:34am

Post 37 of 41

Sollthar

Force: 13360 | Joined: 30th Oct 2001 | Posts: 6094

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

I'd be interested to see how they'd sort out the copyright issues.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 1:04am

Post 38 of 41

ben3308

Force: 5210 | Joined: 24th May 2004 | Posts: 6433

VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

We're just calling it "The Gorsky Assignment", and using the goggles/use of "Fisher" sparingly.

We're fudging it a bit, obviously. smile

Worse things have been done to get movies shown. Much worse things.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 1:05am

Post 39 of 41

Sollthar

Force: 13360 | Joined: 30th Oct 2001 | Posts: 6094

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Yeah, you could have slept with an old ugly producer I guess. smile
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 1:09am

Post 40 of 41

Maxy

Force: 110 | Joined: 7th Jun 2005 | Posts: 238

CompositeLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

loooool.....that's the worst you could come up with...... biggrin
Posted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006, 10:09am

Post 41 of 41

ashman

Force: 4913 | Joined: 10th Sep 2005 | Posts: 904

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Well it's good to hear you have not abandoned SC the movie, it's one im looking forward to viewing as is everyone else im sure. It's the one im most looking forward to by Atomic Productions.