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Gatso Gunn the Movie part 1

Posted: Wed, 13th Sep 2006, 9:32am

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davlin

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I was'nt going to put the full version of "Gatso"up because of its large file size and also I was very concerned that the increase in suicides across the planet might be blamed on me.
To recap ..this is my first "Poser" animation taking me 3yrs to finish....with the current interest in "free Poser 5" going on I thought it might help for some members to have a look at Poser in action with AlamDV of course.


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Posted: Wed, 13th Sep 2006, 9:50am

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I did see the final product and the story is good and for a first movie with poser this is amazing the work put in it. Can't wait to see the next one.

Bravo encore Dalvin!

Shadu
Posted: Wed, 13th Sep 2006, 11:49am

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Recomended stuff for anyone interested in getting into animation.. Beginning with no computer-knowledge and three years later a finished product.

full review http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24765&highlight= smile

Looking forward to any new or current projects smile
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Posted: Wed, 13th Sep 2006, 1:08pm

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This was your *first* animated movie? I couldn't have told from watching it. I'm not saying it's the best ever, since obviously I've seen better stuff out of Pixar, et. al. but I've also seen *worse* stuff on VH1. That was one damned fine effort. The animation may have had a few week spots, like collision detection where characters interacted with movable objects adn the speed of the helicopter blades, but overall that was a rocking movie! The feel of it was very frenetic and edgy, reminiscent of some older Max Headroom kind of stuff. Excellent music choices. The plot rocked and I loved a lot of the littel side elements that you snuck in there like the video game posters on the wall of the lab. (Though the scene between the guy and the little girl kind of creeped me out a little. Yikes! he he)

The only thing that holds this film back from being a five was, I'm sorry to say, the voice acting. Gatso, while in the midst of frantic activity, violent clashes and life or death situations just always sounded like he'd just been shot up with sodium pentathol or popped a couple of ludes. Laura never got a lot more inflection than that either. Perhaps that was intentional on your part, but I didn't pick up on that. I did, however, love the computer generated "Yeah Right" lines. biggrin

All in all, I think the whole thing was fabulous. Where did you get the footage of the helicopter, by the way?

I gave it a very, very strong four out of five. Excellent job and I really enjoyed it.
Posted: Thu, 14th Sep 2006, 12:51am

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Havent watched it yet, but i plan too. (currently downloading)

An idea would be to compess the files a little better and offer an AVI version, alot of people dont want to take the risk downloading over 100mb worth of footage and be dissapointed.

just a thought.

-Sy
Posted: Thu, 14th Sep 2006, 1:58pm

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I've seen this on DVD and I think Ol' Dav did a fantastic job. He inspired me to get off my duff and do another animated film. Thanks for the inspiration Dav : )
Posted: Thu, 14th Sep 2006, 6:09pm

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Hi peeps

I'm sorry about file sizes..i had'nt realised ..so i'm trying to reduce
these to something more sensible......i've not done much of this stuff b4.

Get back soon to thank you all asap.

O'lDav
Posted: Fri, 15th Sep 2006, 9:58am

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Before you make another animated film go out and buy a copy of The Animator's Survival Kit I cannot recommend this book enough.

I sort of have an idea what the plot was about but even with the exposition at the beginning and end the story was still rather unclear. Next time you spend 3 years making an animated film spend the first year working on the script, pacing and storyboarding. The story its self should not need written exposition or voice over to explain the plot. I applauded you for trying to pull away from a pointless action film but it really needs some work. I don't fully understand the speed cameras and what they had to do with anything. Test screen a storyboarded version with people who know nothing about the film to see if it's working.

The animation needed a lot of work. My first suggestion would be to make the people as unrealistic as possible; Poser is only going to give you this creepy looking semi realism that has a dead plastic feel to it. Don't make things worse by adding in live action into an animated film, it felt really out of place. There was a lot of 'floaty' animation and the world seemed to lack friction, feet slide when people were standing in place. Other times characters would turn without there body turning, sometimes animation would stop and the camera would keep rolling. It looked like you used some pre-made animation, in one scene two people where running away from the camera and they had the same walk cycle! Often times the poses were quite weak and every character seemed to hold themselves like body builder pumped with steroids. A lot of the camera work and angles were really quite good and most of the helicopter flying was nice.

I can really tell you put a lot of work into this film but it did not come out that great, keep at it and you should get the hang of it, but I would suggest that you making the next film shorter and work harder on the animation (and buy The Animators Survival Kit) Sorry for the harsh review, if you want to make fun of my first animated monstrosity you can, that is if you don't pry your eyes out with spoons before it's finished.
Posted: Fri, 15th Sep 2006, 12:59pm

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davlin

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Hi "Slothpaladin".......ouch!.....ow!.....ouch.......groan...hehe! biggrin
Of course all your comments are absolutely valid and correct and thanks for taking the time to download view and comment in such a thorough way.
I also enjoyed your "lego" animation very much always had a soft spot for lego movies and the hard work needed. biggrin


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Posted: Fri, 15th Sep 2006, 9:55pm

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I think one problem with my viewing is I’ve always been a PC gamer (and that was mostly strategy games and RPGs based off D&D) so much of the game tribute appeal was lost on me. I do think that the camera work was the strongest aspect of the film. I would love to see a short from you where you work a bit harder the animation side of things. I think that when animators make there first film you lose the ‘people in the back yard with a DV camera look’ and lots of people are impressed that you made an animated film. And it’s not completely misplaced because making animated movies is hard work, whether you make good or bad movies. Now it’s time to start anew and make a good movie!
Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006, 2:39pm

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davlin

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Hi "ferral"

Many thanks for your kind words and really "chuffed" you got some inspiration from it cos your Poser "Punisher" is still my favourite
movie and I can't wait to see your next project........hope it does'nt
take you too long.......I'm gettin on in years you know so don't keep me waiting too long or you'll have to dig me up and give me part in a Romero movie......lol

Thanks again I really know how much time these reviews take to do.

Cheers

O'l Dav
Posted: Mon, 18th Sep 2006, 7:17am

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My main problem with Poser is that the vast majority of animating done with it isn't really animating at all and rather an application of preset movements to a slightly customised 3d character model.

With that in mind, I'm going to avoid commenting on any of the animation.

With my undying hatred for Poser in mind - a couple of moments still stand out as being well edited. I enjoyed the slow motion helicoptor and felt the sounds were good, and I also felt the cut to the bodies under the flashing lighting created the right feel and atmosphere. Unfortunately however - that atmosphere was lost with the shakey headed screaming inside out poser model. razz

Either way, nice and new to see some 3D in the cinema. Have you considered further pursueing 3D and grabbing an application like Cinema4D or Maya? I can personally recommend the former.

-Hybrid.
Posted: Mon, 18th Sep 2006, 9:41am

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Hi Hybrid

Thanks for taking the time and punishing yourself to watch "Gatso".

The reasons you hate Poser (very odd)are the reasons most people love Poser...it enables peeps to create their stories and fantasies in a less stressful manner and in less time.That does'nt
mean Poser is a walk in park (bvh...hehe) it truly can be the most frustrating app around...and i'm always careful to describe "Gatso" as "Poser animation" as of course there is a difference.

I don't know if you watched just part 1 or the full version but thanks
for your review and your honesty in your "hatred" of Poser.
I would love to swap thoughts with you about Poser but i think we would need another forum...lol

O'l Dav
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 2:31pm

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Hi "Jazzmanian"....

Sorry about delay in thanking you for your comments of which I really do appreciate and also for taking the time to put your thoughts on the forum.....so many thanks a plenty.

Sadly the reason for my delay is that my "workhorse" PC is in bits
on the table top.



O'L Dav.

The helicopter shots i took at a real event ...happened to have cam
with me.....cannot say more but will pm you to explain more fully.....
Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006, 12:29pm

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Hi "U"ForNow"....many thanks for your kind awards......much
appreciated.


O'l Dav
Posted: Tue, 3rd Oct 2006, 11:37am

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davlin

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Hi "Shadu"

A belated many thanks for kind words and encouraging comments.
My next disaster will be a lot shorter and hopefully with improved
"Poser" animation.


O'l Dav
Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2007, 4:37pm

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Nicely done. What else can i say ...except that you have really made some improvement if you compare your Sin City stylish movie with this one.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2007, 5:22pm

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Thanks Meetle....I've been really trying to improve on "Gatso" as that was my first go at cg animation.
I've been a hobbyist for many years (too many hehe)but I got involved with Poser about 4years ago and decided that is the way to go for me.
I just enjoy being able to have no limitations on my stories and have any location that I dream of.....my poor cam is only used for holidays now....lol

Thanks again for putting the time in and commenting.

Dave