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True Love Waits

Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006, 9:12am

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SlothPaladin

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Rating: +1

Have you ever wondered what pirates, true love, and full moons have in common?

WARNING!
This is quite possibly the campiest film ever released by Reels About Nothing



Story behind the story:
A few weeks back was an event that I had looked forward to for some time, the Brickfilms 24 hour animation contest. When the day arrived my friend Brian got all his LEGOs and look them over to my place, we then wrote a script, acted out the dialog and got to work on the animation. We decided that we could not get the picture quality we needed for the film on a webcam (which is what we originally planned to shoot on) so we went the more time consuming route of using my digital still camera (the movie was shot at 1360x1024 and downsized to 640x480). As the deadline neared it became more apparent that our whole script was not going to be finished on time. At the beginning we had shot the climax first so that that piece of animation would not feel rushed, but doing it that way more or less made us cut out most of the story. Needless to say the cut we released that day confused almost ever one who watched it. The pacing was way to fast and the story was rather unclear. Brian and I decided to take the material we shot, keep what was good and re-animate a few of the worst shots and shoot the rest of the script. We thought this would only take another day or so however it turned out to be a bit longer then we expected, so I was like, “what the hell, may as well spend the extra time on solid visual effects too.” This is the first project I’ve used my new audio equipment (Shure SM57 and a compact flash recorder), so tell me what you think of the sound quality and sound effects, I made many of the effects myself which is a first for me. What started as a one day quickie turned into a three week project. I hope you enjoy this camp fest as much as Brian and I enjoyed creating it!


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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006, 11:45am

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You didn't need such a long explanation. The film spoke for itself. Campy and enjoyable all the way through and the comedy really worked for me. As always, your animation is smooth and flowing. I can see where you made leaps ahead in the audio. It really came out very well. I came up with nothing critical to say about this film. It was fantastic.

A 5 out of 5. Welcome to my top ten list.
Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006, 3:48pm

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Yeah, I agree, no need for the long explination. It sounds like you're appologizing. Nothing to appologize for. That was one of the best stop-motion Lego movies I've ever seen! Very well done. Glad you went with the high-res still camera, it looks much better than anything else.
Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006, 3:52pm

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Loved the car's transformation and the subsequent flying ship! I want to see a longer movie based around that concept. smile
Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006, 5:18pm

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Sloth, that was a great short. I am amazed by the patience that's required to do stop animation. I REALLY could not do something like this, and I respect people who can.

Campy, funny, and my daughter liked it as well.

5!
Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006, 9:27pm

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The story behind the story part was intended like a behind the scenes special, not an apology, re-reading it I see how people may have seen it in that light. It was not intended as an apology because I really liked how this film turned out, it was more or less everything that Attack of the Evil Robotic Turkey should have been but wasn’t. Thanks for putting it on your top ten Jazzmania

the Fiddler wrote:

Glad you went with the high-res still camera, it looks much better than anything else.
So long as people use full manual mode and use a remote or computer capture system a digital still cam will do better looking animation then even 3CCD miniDV cameras, sadly many people that get into stop motion don’t understand the manual settings and are pressing the shutter button by hand creating really bumpy animation and often times end up switching to web or DV cameras.

Tarn wrote:

Loved the car's transformation and the subsequent flying ship! I want to see a longer movie based around that concept. smile
The car scene was one of the ideas that drove up to make this film. It was done with replaceable parts and was the slowest piece of animation, but worth it. Sorry that I can’t go any further with it, I have way too many ideas bouncing around in my head.

Garrison wrote:

I am amazed by the patience that's required to do stop animation.
I am amazed by the people that have the patience to do special effects for live action films over 20mins long; the effects in this took longer then the animation. But there were so many in camera mistakes you would not believe it. The moon was a par 35 behind a sheet and in many of the shots the sheet was very wrinkly or the air conditioner was blowing it making the moon flicker. So the sky has been replaced in most of the shots with a still image of the sheet (we did not want to fully pull away from the campieness) with some digital stars and sometimes clouds added in.
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 12:56am

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That was one of the greates films on this website.

HOLEY CRAP!

i seaiously lost breath laughing. the animation was good and the cinematography was fantastic.

great use of light and shadow.

fantastic welcome to my top 10
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 2:12am

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That was hilarious. Not to mention extremley well done. 5 stars here.
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 7:49pm

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Hahahaha well, I didn't realize this was a comedy until the end, when the spaceship fried the two guys. So I rewatched it with that in mind, and it was pretty funny.
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 8:14pm

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That was really really funny. Aside from obvious attempts at humor, the other side that made it funny was the sheer absurdity of it, and the somewhat jumpy technical aspects
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 10:17pm

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SyroVision wrote:

That was one of the greates films on this website.
Wow, thanks.

TimmyD wrote:

Hahahaha well, I didn't realize this was a comedy until the end, when the spaceship fried the two guys. So I rewatched it with that in mind, and it was pretty funny.
Brian and I are both fans of Mystery Science Theater 3000 and flopped low budget horror of the 50s, I wonder what you were thinking as you listened to the dialog before you thought it was a comedy.

Bryce007 wrote:

the other side that made it funny was the sheer absurdity of it, and the somewhat jumpy technical aspects
I’m a big fan of the absurd, but I do wonder what you mean by jumpy technical aspects? Was it the set bumps on a few of the shots or something?
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 10:33pm

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SlothPaladin wrote:

TimmyD wrote:

Hahahaha well, I didn't realize this was a comedy until the end, when the spaceship fried the two guys. So I rewatched it with that in mind, and it was pretty funny.
Brian and I are both fans of Mystery Science Theater 3000 and flopped low budget horror of the 50s, I wonder what you were thinking as you listened to the dialog before you thought it was a comedy.
I was thinking: "This is so getting a 2 from me." biggrin
Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2006, 11:32pm

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That’s funny, grammar that bad is not easy to write, we had to go watch Tor Johnson in Plan 9 from Outer Space to get inspiration.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2006, 3:02am

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Wow. I loved the campy, B-movie atmosphere as well as the obviously skilled animation. Absolutely funny, and very well done. 5/5, as well as a spot on my top ten.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2006, 8:03am

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SlothPaladin wrote:

That’s funny, grammar that bad is not easy to write, we had to go watch Tor Johnson in Plan 9 from Outer Space to get inspiration.
"This man has been murdered, and I'm betting that someone is responsible!"
Posted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2006, 10:35am

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That was a brilliantly made film! I too am a huge fan of 'B Movies' and low budget horror/sci fi films in general so your animation was all the more enjoyable to me for that reason.

Technically I thought it was superb. The animation especially was of very high quality. It can't be easy to get that performance with Leggo! The fight scene was hilarious and I don't think the timing (what lets down most films by less experienced animators) could have been any better throughout.

Excellent all round. Yeah, the sound was great too.
Posted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2006, 12:21am

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I've uploads some before after shots, so once they are approved check 'em out; you might be surprised by how stuff looked before I played around with it.

pixelboy wrote:

Wow. I loved the campy, B-movie atmosphere as well as the obviously skilled animation. Absolutely funny, and very well done. 5/5, as well as a spot on my top ten.
Much appreciated

Dalemations wrote:

Technically I thought it was superb. The animation especially was of very high quality. It can't be easy to get that performance with Leggo! The fight scene was hilarious and I don't think the timing (what lets down most films by less experienced animators) could have been any better throughout.
Thanks, it means a lot comming from a pro like yourself! Who would think that a fight were no one hit's each other could be so funny. That was one of Brians scenes and he did an outstanding job.
Posted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2006, 11:58am

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I've uploads some before after shots, so once they are approved check 'em out; you might be surprised by how stuff looked before I played around with it.
I look forward to viewing those. Are you saying all your timing was way out and you corrected it all in post smile You've ruined all my illusions now biggrin

Btw, remember, the only difference between a 'pro' and anyone else is that a 'pro' gets paid for what they do. And...in a lot of cases they've been lucky wink
Posted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2006, 6:41pm

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Beautiful....beautiful....a joy to watch....outstanding animation a real credit to you all.

Well done all!

O'l Dav

10 stars...hehe
Posted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2006, 8:30pm

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Dalemations wrote:

I look forward to viewing those. Are you saying all your timing was way out and you corrected it all in post smile You've ruined all my illusions now biggrin
That was a general statement for everyone, no timeing was changed in post.

Dalemations wrote:

Btw, remember, the only difference between a 'pro' and anyone else is that a 'pro' gets paid for what they do. And...in a lot of cases they've been lucky wink
By this loose definition I am a pro and I was paid once to make an animated web intro, but I have not had good luck getting another job.

davlin wrote:

Beautiful....beautiful....a joy to watch....outstanding animation a real credit to you all.
Thanks, I like to think that the beauty of this movie is half of its absurdity.
Posted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2006, 8:42pm

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By this loose definition I am a pro and I was paid once to make an animated web intro, but I have not had good luck getting another job.
Well, there you are then - you can class yourself as a pro razz
With work like this you won't have trouble getting other commissions I'm sure. We get animators apply for jobs at work who don't produce anything like the quality you have here in their auditions.
Posted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2006, 9:02pm

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Rating: +1

Ok so apparently I rated this a one when I meant to rate it a 4. If anyone could fix this I would appreciate it. (tarn this means you)
Posted: Mon, 25th Sep 2006, 1:49am

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Dalemations wrote:

Well, there you are then - you can class yourself as a pro razz
With work like this you won't have trouble getting other commissions I'm sure. We get animators apply for jobs at work who don't produce anything like the quality you have here in their auditions.
I think my biggest problem is not having any studio experience and not living in an area where I could intern for the experience. At this point there is no way I could move to LA.

I guess the FXhome team take a break from submissions on the weekends, heres some links to the before after pictures while anyone waits.

sunset
Ship flys away
Ship falls
Posted: Mon, 25th Sep 2006, 1:04pm

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Those are impressive images that illustrate what can now be achieved by people at home with now inexpensive software (thanks to FxHome of course) biggrin

The way things are moving I wonder how long the studio system will survive anyway. I see the gap in quality between home and 'studio' productions closing all the time.
Posted: Mon, 25th Sep 2006, 1:07pm

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Brilliant images! I hadn't realised quite how much post had gone on with this. Good stuff. smile
Posted: Tue, 26th Sep 2006, 5:39am

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Dalemations wrote:

The way things are moving I wonder how long the studio system will survive anyway. I see the gap in quality between home and 'studio' productions closing all the time.
I more or less have a studio set up, room painted black, black curtains over the windows, two C-Stands and some regular light stands and 5 lights that are better then desk lamps. It's so easy to shoot animation at a professional level because you need so much less space, that and the fact that I can shoot at high def resolutions on my $160 camera. I would go insane if I had to shoot live action because I would have to throw my standards out of the window.

Tarn wrote:

Brilliant images! I hadn't realised quite how much post had gone on with this. Good stuff. biggrin
This project took three weeks to make, only four days were spent on animation.
Posted: Wed, 27th Sep 2006, 12:07am

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Some people over at Brickilms were freaking out about how I made the Bryce4 not look Brycey sunset shot, well for anyone who cares this is how I did it, step by step
Posted: Wed, 27th Sep 2006, 8:16am

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It's a great shot, and excellent use of lots of different techniques all in unison. The result means that you can't quite tell how it was done, due to the mixture, so instead you just buy it for what it is - them riding off into the sunset.

Some really great uses of VisionLab's compositing in this, it's exciting to see some real innovation.
Posted: Wed, 27th Sep 2006, 8:29am

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I agree with Tarn - I was open mouthed at that shot when I first saw it. I guessed you'd used the heat haze preset but didn't have a clue how the rest of the shot was compiled.

I downloaded the free Bryce5 (very kindly pointed out by someone on this forum) and after playing with it for a while decided, as you found, that it would be a great tool for creating skies for animated films. smile

Thanks for the 'behind the scenes' stuff it's great.
Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006, 8:46pm

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lol, nice job
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Finally got around to seeing this today. As far as the humor goes, it was sort of lost on me, but as far as animation and post-prod go, this movie is truly a triumph. It was just a very pleasing to look at. The animation was great, and the use of colors was overall very awesome. The ammount of work that went into this easily out-weighs the fact I didn't get the humor, and I gave it a 5.
Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006, 8:54pm

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Thanks for watch Weser, I’m glad you enjoyed the visuals. We may have had one to may Plan 9 from Outer Space tributes in this film. One of the jokes (at least I thought it was a joke) was how good the film looked in comparison to how bad the dialog was. Many of the shots we did were chose because we were not sure if it was possible to do in a LEGO film, for example we were not sure if it was possible to shoot an in car shot at LEGO scale (the camera lens is 2 and 1/4 inches wide where the LEGO man is 1 and 3/4 inches tall). You’ll be happy to know that I am working on a project that I did not write, so the dialogue should be good.
Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006, 9:10pm

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actually the comparison of bad dialogue to good visuals is a pretty interesting idea. I'm sold.
Posted: Sun, 1st Oct 2006, 4:29am

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interesting.... i have made some lego videos in the past, and even though it was not that great (in terms of a movie) it was pretty darn good becasue i know how hard it is to move those legos around. smile
Posted: Sun, 1st Oct 2006, 7:32am

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I find animation is easer then organizing people, trying to get 4 or 5 people in one place at one time can be a nightmare, with LEGOs I can get 40 mini-figures in one place at one time easy. (getting them all to do something different at the same time does get a bit tricky though) Hopefully I’ll post some clay stuff soon, not quite as impressive on the cinematography side of things but a far better representation of my animation ability.
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In terms of animation, this was really really really good work, but you know that already Slothpaladin. wink

I very much liked the setdesign and cinematography, especially in some of the later shots in the movie. Visually, this was very appealing!


In terms of the actual story, the standards didn't appeal to me as much as the technical side. It felt a bit too random to me.


Never the less a great effort in stop and go motion, on which I commend you greatly!
Posted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2006, 8:27am

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True Love Waits is a good example of why I don't write stories for projects I spend money on (I bought a few bags of jalapeno potato chips for this but that was it), it's very understandable that some people won't like this story.

I think I've learn more about the non-animation side of film making here at FXhome then most of the other sites I learn from, so thank you for sharing tons of info to film makers as well as everyone else that offers advice here.

By the way, there was no go-motion on this, all the space ships (I'm guessing that’s what you thought was go-motion) were done in live action.
Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006, 4:16am

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Very remarkable for, like many said, the sheer patience of the art of Claymation.

Technicals were a little jumpy, but hey, it's LEGOs, right? It's not terribly easy to do. wink The editing I wasn't a big fan of, but I see where you were going and can appreciate the overall absurdly funny campiness to it.

Oh, and nice use of the software. I would have never thought-up that sunset if I were making it.

3/5
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What did you not like about the editing? I love criticism and am always looking to improve and often times people don’t think they need to criticize the editing or cinematograph or grading of animated films for some reason so any advice on weak elements is hugely appreciated. Feel free to go down into the nitty gritty of it and get nasty, whatever I upload next will be the better for it.

And LEGO animations easer for me then proper spelling, if you think something is iffy, you can point it out, I don’t care.
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Great movie. I liked it, altho on some parts where theres crashes, etc, Its way to loud, almost blew my ears off, besides that, i luved it. Was also my first ever lego film ive ever watched lol.
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I glad you enjoyed the movie and I'm sorry that some parts were to loud (I did lower the volume in the crash quite a bit, but not enough I guess) If you want to watch other high quality LEGO films check these out, I did NOT make them but I highly recomend them.

The Magic Portal (this film is a must see!)
Robota
The Gauntlet
Star Wars Episode III: Rise of the Empire (Trailer)
ONE: A Space Odyssey
Frankenstein
Special Deliverance
Cognizance
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At another forum a member had an idea of making director's commentaries so I did one for True Love Waits, check it out
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What up with the spaceship and what happened to the girl?